RE: [SilverStreak] Re: Silver Streak Digest V1 #577 Help with getting new tires

["Ralph Cooke" <rcooke@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I am not sure of what the situation is in the original posters area,
but there are several truck tire dealers that will work on locking
rims in my area, southern central valley in California, as a number of
the older farm trailers around here still have locking rims.  Yes they
do use a cage to mount and dismount the tires on the rim.  As far as
tubes go, you can use tubes on ANY tire, there are adapters that fit
in hole for the valve stem to allow the newer thin valve stems on some
tubes to be used in any type of rim.  My tire guy says he can special
order tubeless valve stems for the split rims, but does not recommend
it as the split rims usually leak if run without a tube. 

If it were me, I would change out the rims, but I don't know how much
money the original poster wants to spend at this time.  When on the
road with locking rims, there will be a problem with getting a flat
fixed on the trailer.  

I personally don't like the look of the white spoke wheels by Jackman
or Carlsile and would upgrade to something that looks a bit better on
a Silver Streak, but the $35 rims could be used.  I believe some of
the six lug rims have the same bolt pattern as an older 1/2 ton chevy
pickup.  It would be best to take a tire and rim in to the dealer when
ordering new rims, to make sure you get the right bolt spacing.

Ralph


-----Original Message-----
From: sslist-admin@tompatterson.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:53 AM
To: sslist@tompatterson.com
Subject: RE: [SilverStreak] Re: Silver Streak Digest V1 #577 Help with
getting new tires

Uh Ralph,

Bad advice there ....

'Split rims' are a misnomer for locking rims and hardly any
tire dealers work on them anymore because of the liability.

There has to be a cage to change them in for starters .....
Not to mention the tires are a 'tubed' type and you have to 
change the tubes with the tires.

The hole for the tube does not accept a standard valve stem
and cannot be used with a tubeless tire.

The only reason to keep a locking rim would be for authenticity
in a much older vintage coach or travel trailer for the
purpose of concourse or show judging.

Locking rims are not practical and offer no practical advantage.

A Carlisle six inch 6 x 5.5 white spoke wheel is about $35 at Discount
Tire.  




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> From: rcooke@bak.rr.com
> To: sslist@tompatterson.com
> Subject: RE: [SilverStreak] Re: Silver Streak Digest V1 #577  Help
with  getting new tires
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 11:43:41 -0700
> 
> Sherylyn,
> 
> You MUST change the tires.  You will throw treads or blow them out
and
> damage your trailer.  As to the split rims, any truck tire dealer
will
> work on split rims.  I strongly recommend you replace the tires with
> Load Range D or E Light Truck tires, INCLUDING the spare tire.  Look
> in the yellow pages for truck tire dealers.  You don't want a dealer
> associated with a truck stop, as they usually don't want to bother
> with 15" rim tires, and would have to special order tires for them.
> Put your spare tire on, and take the flat "split rim" tire in to
show
> the dealer what you need.  I don't recommend purchasing "Trailer"
> tires, the light truck tires will handle higher speed better, and do
> not throw treads as easily as the "Trailer" tires.  
> 
> DON'T GET THE CHEAPEST TIRES.  I have 8 trailers of various kinds in
> my business, + my 72 SS Continental Atlas 26' trailer, and a race
car
> trailer, and have found that purchasing tires in the upper middle
> price range give me the best long term results, and very few thrown
> treads or blown tires.  The truck tire dealer may need to order your
> tires, so be sure to order tires well in advance of any planed trip.
> 
> As to changing the Split Rims, that will probably cost as much as
the
> new tires, but you could then get a tire repaired or replaced at any
> tire shop.  Also you may be able to sell the split rims to a Silver
> Streak owner who wants to maintain everything in "Original"
condition.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ralph
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sslist-admin@tompatterson.com
> [mailto:sslist-admin@tompatterson.com] On Behalf Of Sherylyn
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:37 AM
> To: sslist@tompatterson.com; sslist-digest@tompatterson.com
> Subject: [SilverStreak] Re: Silver Streak Digest V1 #577 Help with
> getting new tires
> 
> We have a 72 Continental Supreme. Tires on it are 6 lug 17.0  15LT
> Load 
> range D Goodyear nylon trailer tires. I don't know how old?  4 on
> trailer 
> one is flat.  One spare.  All have the split rim(?) that the tire
> stores 
> don't want to touch.
>