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Ralph, Split rims were used because they were and are strong. Split rims are on new vehicles made right now today. You will see the application on super heavy trucks and all my cranes. Mostly that is because the tires cannot be removed over a rim lip and the extra strength is needed. On heavy forklifts the solid pneumatic tire cannot be pried over a lip either. There are many types of heavy equipment split rims that are tubeless and use no liner. My roll-back truck has spoker Dayton wheels. Extremely strong versus the bud lug. Just a Chevy. My Ford has them too. I like split rims....maybe. I have mounted many and statements they are inherently unsafe are just wrong. What is unsafe is people don't know what they are doing. There is a lot less danger bead-seating a split rim done at a pressure as little as 5 pounds, than a modern car tire which will sometimes not seat until 30 or 40 pounds. Anything can be dangerous. See Houston Clearlake Dentists Clara Harris in a Mercedes for reference. My Ferguson 245 tractor uses tubeless tires. Huge. Operating pressure is 12 pounds. Bead seat is deadly above 15 pounds. You just need to know what your doing. Many people just don't. You don't guess. Read the tire. All tires have the info printed right on the side of the tire. The major drawbacks to split rims are you can't get anyone to repair or mount or service them. Typical tire shops don't allow the work, don't stock any tubes, the liners, the specialty offset and bent stem tube is usually required. Their insurance prohibits them on the property. Contrary to what you may have heard, typical trailer tires can run modern tubes. It is a fact that a tube in a tire runs hotter than tubeless due to side wall flex constant friction. The split rim requires a liner. The liners and tubes are all available and cheap. The integrity of the liner is very important to the health of the tube and can be bad needing close inspection especially at the valve stem area. Non tubeless tires get wet inside and stay wet. Generally people don't like split rims and are afraid of them so the split rim can be considered a big value negative. Split rims can have very odd sizes such as 14.5, 15.5, and 16" like on Spartans. All those size tires and tubes are much less available and can get expensive since there are much less production runs. There does exist one type of split rim that is extremely dangerous and should be junked, but that type rim separates in the center and is only used on big trucks of the 60's, 70's, and early 80's. No tire man will mount or even air that. The tire size was typically 10:00 x 20. Ask any old tire man what is a suicide rim. He will know the rim. There are varied opinions about split rims good and bad. Most all of the bad opinions have merit. All of the good opinions are generally limited to the value of originality and the application of original wheel covers. None of the size arguments have merit as any size wheel can have a tire size application that meets the size diameter and profile you want or need. See 22 inch wheels on a Navigator for that. You need the spinners to go with the boat load of LCD TV's with that. The great trailer tires of old are mostly gone. All of the good old name brands like Carlisle are mostly made in China now and are truly junk. Most tires are short lived at about 5 years if your lucky. After that your looking at the little fine cracks and unpredictable structural failure. Tires are a constant discussion of which are the best or the worst of what is available. There is good argument for radial versus bias type tires for less required air pressure and less abuse on our ancient trailers from the rock hard characteristics of bias ply typical trailer tires. That is a discussion of ratings, handling, and a smooth ride for the trailer. No tire dealer will warranty a tire with less air pressure usage than is specified on the tire. They will decline the warranty. Ask! Ralph, you can't begin to even air up a split rim of the types discussed here without a tube! Ralph, it just won't begin to hold air at all! It has to have a liner and a tube!. The only multi piece rims I have seen that can do that are huge mongous on two of my cranes and they use a giant O ring. It takes a forklift to move just the tire casing without the rim. They are 5 foot tall. This is very simple. Go to Discount tire, or the great shop in Houston that Tom Patterson goes to and get pretty aluminum wheels and your choice of tire. Or do like I have done for at least 8 sets of 4 and get the white wheel from Discount Tire. Strong, not quite a spoker, the nice looking inexpensive tubeless rim comes in colors. Discount can also sell a typical looking wheel real pretty in total chrome, or just painted. That is what is needed, not something that cannot be serviced on a trip. -Eddie- Houston, TX
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