Re: [SilverStreak] size of propane tanks

["Keneth Wilson" <ke5dfr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I also tow my SS with a WD sytems.  Iuse a Reese Dual Cam HP which is both sway 
contrl and weight distributing.  The truck can well handle the relative light 
load on the hitch.  My truck has an 11,500# GVWR and actual weight is about 
8000#, so it can carry 3500# in the back.

The WD hitch is set to transfer some of the weight to the front axle which does 
improve the ride and the steering.

I am an engineer and like to make sure we have everything SAFE.  With a well 
balanced trailer, you can never say that it will never sway.  You never know 
when you will get hit by the sudden gust of wind from a passing vehicle, over a 
river or such.  The sway control is cheap insurance for that one time that you 
might need it.
 
Ken Wilson 
KE5DFR@sbcglobal.net 
Cypress, Texas



----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Patterson <pattersontj@sbcglobal.net>
To: sslist@tompatterson.com
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:08:16 AM
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] size of propane tanks

Al,

The recommendation by at least Sherline is not "maximum 15%", but rather "at 
least 15%".  Others will set the
maximum lower, but I think that in many cases this is without a weight 
distribution hitch and spring bars.
The tricycle comparison is, I believe, not applicable as it ignores too many 
factors.  Fifth wheel trailers, also with a triangle setup have up to 25% of 
their weight on the tow vehicle.

The problem with too much weight is what it does to the tow vehicle.  Aside 
from the effect on the rear axle and suspension, both steering and braking 
deteriorate with all the weight on the rear.  The remedy is in the weight 
distribution  hitch and spring bars, which move some of that weight both to 
the tow vehicle front axle, and to the trailer wheels.

Again, in my case, I have neither a sway problem, nor a "wallowing" problem 
with approx. 800 lbs. and a 4,500 to 5,000 lb. trailer.  I do have a lot of 
truck, but I also use a weight distribution hitch with spring bars to move 
some of the 800 lbs forward and backward.  I have not weighed the setup 
after hitching up, but know that I have a lot less than 15% - perhaps 12% of 
the tongue weight on the hitch with the use of spring bars.

-Tom


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <waymark1@juno.com>
To: <sslist@tompatterson.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] size of propane tanks


> 15% of 4,500# is 675#; 15% of 5,000# is 750#. 800# is above the maximum 
> 15% recommendation for tongue weight.
> Too much weight on the tongue makes for "wallowing" by the trailer, which 
> is supported on a triangle like a tricycle. If you recall your kids' 
> trike, if you leaned forward it was easy to tip over. For coasting down 
> hills you leaned back toward the rear wheels for stability. Of course 
> there was little or no loading out behind the rear axle, which is not the 
> case with "teeter-totter" RV trailers. A second kid hanging out the back 
> of the trike made the trike want to veer all over.
> If the center of gravity is high, it makes "wallowing" even more likely.
> A tow vehicle that is heavier than the trailer makes up for a lot of 
> trailering sins. :-)
> Al