Re: [SilverStreak] Hinge solution many words.

["Tom Patterson" <pattersontj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I would prefer not to conduct the poll of interest or count for these 
hinges.

I have my plate full right now with the migration of data to the new site.

-Tom

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <Eddie@Huffstetter.com>
To: <sslist@tompatterson.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Hinge solution many words.


> Braun is ready to do the hinge. $200 or less. There is a slight 
> reservation, but only as to the hinge loop support riser. For that they 
> need the hinge. They want to know how many. They want that information 
> now. I would ask Tom to continue his leadership to poll for interest and 
> get a tentative count. Below are the details of every question I can 
> imagine that needs answer.
>
> PRICE: Braun's first guesstimate is "under $100.00 per piece". That would 
> mean a set of hinges would be about $200 for one trailer. They further say 
> that if the hinge does not present problems associated with the support 
> riser, and the production amount can increase from the six that I will 
> want, the price could be as low as $47.00 per piece, or about $100 per set 
> which would do one trailer. These are guesstimates and do not include 
> shipping. Braun say's their shipping is a huge discounted rate. The lower 
> price would be the difference of piece making mine, and shop computer 
> tools set up for quantity production runs. They would keep their set up 
> data for future orders. They would also attempt to market the hinge. Braun 
> says if they make the hinge, and they think they can, they need a good 
> pattern. The pattern will be returned insured. All shipping is done via 
> UPS for control, relationship, and insurance. There is no set up fee or 
> costs. There is no pre-pay. Hinges can be paid direct and shipped direct. 
> I forgot to ask the forms of payment. LOWER COST EQUALS HIGHER COUNT.
>
> WHAT THE HINGE WILL BE IS stainless steel plate with formed closed loops. 
> The base mount, called a pre-leaf and the door leafs will be exactly the 
> same including the radius. All holes will be iron-worker machine punched 
> to match. The hinge mounting holes will perfectly line up for installation 
> and exact door alignment. The pin will be "spun" stainless steel pin and 
> not removable. The stainless stock will be standard mill finish and not 
> high polished finished which would double cost. Stock cutting is done by 
> laser. Stainless stock gauge will be determined by Braun but of a 
> thickness less than 1/4" probably near 1/8". This is the stock they use to 
> hang fire truck doors which are heavy steel doors. I have asked Braun to 
> research and develop as needed, a longer hinge loop array like Ralph's 
> are, to assure loop strength and to improve if needed. That will be the 
> only possible difference in the present look of the hinge, and absence of 
> the ornamentation appearance. The hinge will be able to be lubed with WD 
> 40 or regular oil if ever needed. No other pin will be considered for 
> avoidance of Bi-Metal problems. You can high polish if you want. Mill 
> finish will look like the trailer skin.
>
> SO HERE IS WHERE WE ARE: Guesstimate cost is $200 or less per set of two. 
> Maker likes Scott's drawings, could use his drawing, but prefers a 
> hands-on sample. MAKER WANTS A COUNT. I have Ralph's take off and can send 
> it, or if Ralph wants to send one hinge of his new set, that is preferred. 
> The bad hinge set Ralph sent to me has slight arches on the two door leafs 
> and I do not know if those are supposed to be there or not. Braun said 
> they can work around the badly worn and missing loops. We don't want them 
> making an arch bend that should not be in the two leafs.
>
> Thank you Tom, Ralph, Curtis, and Scott. I consider this job all but done 
> for the doing just like the logos. I am excited that I will be getting six 
> hinges which is three sets, for about $600 or maybe less, and not $1620 
> and maybe more.
>
> Ralph renewed this very old and unsolved need. He made hinges. The price 
> and maker presented unforeseen obstacles. He completed a hinge. He gave 
> documentation and photo's. Tom posted. Ralph has sent me his best of worst 
> hinge. Scott joined this list in a big way, professionally drawer a hinge. 
> That furthered the languishing works on this need. Curtis found and 
> provided a maker that does nothing but make hinges. NONE OF THIS WOULD 
> HAPPEN WITHOUT TOMPATTERSON.COM  AND  HIS SSLIST. Braun was contacted. 
> Braun viewed high pixel photo's and Tom's link to Ralph's documentation 
> and photos. Based upon that, Braun has more than expressed a "can do" 
> attitude and interest. They want to make the hinge at an affordable price. 
> Braun did not know of trailers, including Airstream. Amazing.
>
> -Eddie-
> Houston, TX
>