Patti, Meanwhile, why not post a few pictures on Tom Patterson's web site and pacify the curiosity. Bill Kerfoot WBCCI/VAC #5223 1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon 1977 Lincoln Continental 1979 23' Airstream Safari Orange, CA http://www.tompatterson.com/VALgallery/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=21