From: DavidNewell <dnewell@empire.net>
To: <vintage@airstream.net>
Subject: Re: [VAC] Ground Fault circuit interupters.
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 10:09 PM

I was thinking that even leakage in the Meg Ohm region would trip thosedevises. I
guess I need to try an Ohms meter to se if I have a problem and thenbuy a new
GFI. I still want to get the "univolt" off the damn GFI as it's doneme in a
couple of times now. I need to check the diagram and see if the fridgeoutlet is
on that thing. Maybe I'll runn zip cord from the back... Think Hendrecksons!.
Dave bee in the sump pump situation with no GFI and suvived (Dow St.)these are
the thinks that give you the shivers after the fact..

Denny644@aol.com wrote:

> dave,
> we belong to a sportsmans club south of here (you were there once)and have a
> small trailer. there used to be gfi outlet on a 'power pole' to whichwe
> could connect. while kathy and i never had any problems, other campersdid,
> but only a few of them. anyway, last summer they pulled out all thegfi-s.
> i'm going to make a short extention cord with a waterproof box anda gfi.
> this will go to the power pole, then my normal 35ft orange cord willgo to the
> trailer (only lights, no univolt, too bad). which should keep mefrom
> lighting u\p my life.
>
> i did'nt know if you had a breaker ($60, protects a whole circuit)or a
> receptacle GFI ($12, comes in 15 or 20A ratings, protects itselfand any
> outlet downstream). I recommend going with the receptacles becaueof the
> sticker shock mentioned in previous email.
>
> also, its NOT a good idea to wire the lighting cicruits to these.Code
> requires only outlets be protected. I started by wiring the basementcircuits
> in the house, lights and all. then when i tested it, i was left inthe dark
> <smile>. now, i have the outlets down there on GFI, and the lightsare run
> straight back to the main box. glad i found that while testing.
>
> another problem i found.....(i know this isn't strictly trailers,but its
> stuff you can ponder over when you can't sleep). the Sump Pump ison a GFI
> (must be!). One day it got wet somehow and clicked off. it was raining,and
> we had 3" in the basement before discovering the problem. get this:i lifted
> the pump clear of the water, dried off the motor casing, and heldit a foot
> above the surface (with platex living gloves) while it pumped thebasement
> dry. In this case the GFI might be too much of a good thing, butthen i did
> wade around the basement without frying myself.
>
> oh, the leak you are looking for (electrical) will be approximately6 to 8
> milliamps at 120VAC. I made a tester by wiring a resistor from blackto green
> in an oversize plug. Trial and error got me to about 14Kohms to makeit work.
> i wrote to Leviton (makes premium GFI) and described my tester butthey
> respectfully declined to respond concerning its efficacy.
>
> thanks for listening, and remember this advice is worth exactly whatyou are
> paying for it!
> denny
>
> (ps: here's to dry waders - no leaks!)