From: JimDunmyer
To:
Subject: Re: [VAC] Ground Fault circuit interupters.
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 1:01 PM

I kinda thought you might be joking.

I just finished wiring up my amplified color TV antenna and triple DCoutlet. Everything
works, and the picture is great on local stations, at least as goodas the rod antenna on
my 5" Tummy Telly. Gotta do some more checking on the voltage drop;it looks like #10 wire
(MAYBE #8) going from the battery to the Control Panel, and my DVMshows serious voltage
drop as I add loads. Haven't taken the time to figure out exactly whereit is, it might
even be the battery itself.
 

David Newell wrote:

> Denny and I go back a long way '60s and we're always trying to pulleachothers leg. I
> thought the zip cord would get a rise out of him... Dave :>))
>
> Jim Dunmyer wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> > Please tell me that you're joking about running zip cord. Thatseems to me to be a
> > distinctly Bad Idea.
> >
> > <>
> >
> > David Newell wrote:
> >
> > > I was thinking that even leakage in the Meg Ohm region wouldtrip those devises. I
> > > guess I need to try an Ohms meter to se if I have a problem andthen buy a new
> > > GFI. I still want to get the "univolt" off the damn GFI as it'sdone me in a
> > > couple of times now. I need to check the diagram and see if thefridge outlet is
> > > on that thing. Maybe I'll runn zip cord from the back... ThinkHendrecksons!.
> > > Dave bee in the sump pump situation with no GFI and suvived (DowSt.) these are
> > > the thinks that give you the shivers after the fact..
> > >
> > > Denny644@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > dave,
> > > > we belong to a sportsmans club south of here (you were thereonce) and have a
> > > > small trailer. there used to be gfi outlet on a 'power pole'to which we
> > > > could connect. while kathy and i never had any problems, othercampers did,
> > > > but only a few of them. anyway, last summer they pulled outall the gfi-s.
> > > > i'm going to make a short extention cord with a waterproofbox and a gfi.
> > > > this will go to the power pole, then my normal 35ft orangecord will go to the
> > > > trailer (only lights, no univolt, too bad). which should keepme from
> > > > lighting u\p my life.
> > > >
> > > > i did'nt know if you had a breaker ($60, protects a whole circuit)or a
> > > > receptacle GFI ($12, comes in 15 or 20A ratings, protects itselfand any
> > > > outlet downstream). I recommend going with the receptaclesbecaue of the
> > > > sticker shock mentioned in previous email.
> > > >
> > > > also, its NOT a good idea to wire the lighting cicruits tothese. Code
> > > > requires only outlets be protected. I started by wiring thebasement circuits
> > > > in the house, lights and all. then when i tested it, i wasleft in the dark
> > > > . now, i have the outlets down there on GFI, andthe lights are run
> > > > straight back to the main box. glad i found that while testing.
> > > >
> > > > another problem i found.....(i know this isn't strictly trailers,but its
> > > > stuff you can ponder over when you can't sleep). the Sump Pumpis on a GFI
> > > > (must be!). One day it got wet somehow and clicked off. itwas raining, and
> > > > we had 3" in the basement before discovering the problem. getthis: i lifted
> > > > the pump clear of the water, dried off the motor casing, andheld it a foot
> > > > above the surface (with platex living gloves) while it pumpedthe basement
> > > > dry. In this case the GFI might be too much of a good thing,but then i did
> > > > wade around the basement without frying myself.
> > > >
> > > > oh, the leak you are looking for (electrical) will be approximately6 to 8
> > > > milliamps at 120VAC. I made a tester by wiring a resistor fromblack to green
> > > > in an oversize plug. Trial and error got me to about 14Kohmsto make it work.
> > > > i wrote to Leviton (makes premium GFI) and described my testerbut they
> > > > respectfully declined to respond concerning its efficacy.
> > > >
> > > > thanks for listening, and remember this advice is worth exactlywhat you are
> > > > paying for it!
> > > > denny
> > > >
> > > > (ps: here's to dry waders - no leaks!)
> >
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