From: JimDunmyer <jdunmyer@toltbbs.com>
To: <vintage@airstream.net>
Subject: Re: [VAC] Ground Fault circuit interupters.
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 8:04 AM

Dave,
Please tell me that you're joking about running zip cord. That seemsto me to be a
distinctly Bad Idea.

<<Jim>>

David Newell wrote:

> I was thinking that even leakage in the Meg Ohm region would tripthose devises. I
> guess I need to try an Ohms meter to se if I have a problem and thenbuy a new
> GFI. I still want to get the "univolt" off the damn GFI as it's doneme in a
> couple of times now. I need to check the diagram and see if the fridgeoutlet is
> on that thing. Maybe I'll runn zip cord from the back... Think Hendrecksons!.
> Dave bee in the sump pump situation with no GFI and suvived (DowSt.) these are
> the thinks that give you the shivers after the fact..
>
> Denny644@aol.com wrote:
>
> > dave,
> > we belong to a sportsmans club south of here (you were there once)and have a
> > small trailer. there used to be gfi outlet on a 'power pole' towhich we
> > could connect. while kathy and i never had any problems, othercampers did,
> > but only a few of them. anyway, last summer they pulled out allthe gfi-s.
> > i'm going to make a short extention cord with a waterproof boxand a gfi.
> > this will go to the power pole, then my normal 35ft orange cordwill go to the
> > trailer (only lights, no univolt, too bad). which should keep mefrom
> > lighting u\p my life.
> >
> > i did'nt know if you had a breaker ($60, protects a whole circuit)or a
> > receptacle GFI ($12, comes in 15 or 20A ratings, protects itselfand any
> > outlet downstream). I recommend going with the receptacles becaueof the
> > sticker shock mentioned in previous email.
> >
> > also, its NOT a good idea to wire the lighting cicruits to these.Code
> > requires only outlets be protected. I started by wiring the basementcircuits
> > in the house, lights and all. then when i tested it, i was leftin the dark
> > <smile>. now, i have the outlets down there on GFI, and thelights are run
> > straight back to the main box. glad i found that while testing.
> >
> > another problem i found.....(i know this isn't strictly trailers,but its
> > stuff you can ponder over when you can't sleep). the Sump Pumpis on a GFI
> > (must be!). One day it got wet somehow and clicked off. it wasraining, and
> > we had 3" in the basement before discovering the problem. get this:i lifted
> > the pump clear of the water, dried off the motor casing, and heldit a foot
> > above the surface (with platex living gloves) while it pumped thebasement
> > dry. In this case the GFI might be too much of a good thing, butthen i did
> > wade around the basement without frying myself.
> >
> > oh, the leak you are looking for (electrical) will be approximately6 to 8
> > milliamps at 120VAC. I made a tester by wiring a resistor fromblack to green
> > in an oversize plug. Trial and error got me to about 14Kohms tomake it work.
> > i wrote to Leviton (makes premium GFI) and described my testerbut they
> > respectfully declined to respond concerning its efficacy.
> >
> > thanks for listening, and remember this advice is worth exactlywhat you are
> > paying for it!
> > denny
> >
> > (ps: here's to dry waders - no leaks!)

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