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VACList DigestVACList-Digest Sunday, October 27, 2002 Issue 468
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Airstream models
2. Jalousie windows
3. Re-aligning/bending door?
4. Rectangle vents and window operators
5. Re: Re-aligning/bending door?
6. Re: Rectangle vents and window operators
7. Re: Re-aligning/bending door?
8. Silver Streak information
9. Electrical on "68" Ambassador
10. Re: Electrical on "68" Ambassador
11. Prodigy Brake Controller?
12. Re: Prodigy Brake Controller?
13. Re: Jalousie windows
14. Re:
15. new participant and axles
16. Re: new participant and axles
17. Re: new participant and axles
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:58:48 -0600
From: "Maxwell" <maxwell@insideout-design.net>
Subject: Re: Airstream models
Actually, there's a BROOKLIN # 54 1953 AIRSTREAM WANDERER CAMPER TRAILER
on ebay right now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1779995520 "Buy it
Now" for $78.00
I have no interest as buyer or seller in this auction, just noticed it &
thought I would pass along the sighting.
Shari
--
Shari Davis
'64 GlobeTrotter
WBCCI #1824, VAC
www.InsideOut-Design.net/Maxwell
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Message Number: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:48:09 EDT
From: Okydokey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Jalousie windows
I just looked at a 30' sovereign with jalousie windows, it appears the wall
rib to the front of the curbside jalousie window may be broke (wall wiggles).
Is there an easy fix to this or should I stay away from the unit? Also the
door does not seal, it hangs out at the top by an inch or more, but seals at
the latch and towards the bottom, could this be related? Help! We kinda like
this one.
Jason
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:52:32 EDT
From: Okydokey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re-aligning/bending door?
We just looked at a 30' sovereign w/jalousie windows (see previous post).
The door does not seal at the top third of the frame, by a good inch to inch
and a half, but seals at the latch and bottom. Is it common for this to
eventually happen, could it be because of the Jalousie windows? What is the
fix? Can you bend or spring the door to the proper contour? I thought I
read you could take of the inner skin, bend the door carefully and then
reattach to hold it in the desired shape. Any help or suggestions would be
appreciated.
Jason
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Message Number: 4
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:55:43 EDT
From: Okydokey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Rectangle vents and window operators
Are the vent assemblies to fit in the rectangular (14 x 24 )? vent openings
available. Are the window cranks and operators available for a '64 with
jalousie windows?
Thanks,
Jason
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:00:24 -0600
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Re-aligning/bending door?
Hi Jason,
Yes you can reshape a door by removing the skin. I did such then cut
the frame and welded it back together. It's not easy. Perhaps you
could have a welding shop look at it. The closure should be as tight
as you can get it allowing room for the rubber seal.
Good luck, Gerald Shippen
----- Original Message -----
From: Okydokey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re-aligning/bending door?
We just looked at a 30' sovereign w/jalousie windows (see previous
post). The door does not seal at the top third of the frame, by a good
inch to inch and a half, but seals at the latch and bottom. Is it
common for this to eventually happen, could it be because of the
Jalousie windows? What is the fix? Can you bend or spring the door to
the proper contour? I thought I read you could take of the inner skin,
bend the door carefully and then reattach to hold it in the desired
shape. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Jason
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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:35:18 -0600
From: Kevin D Allen <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Rectangle vents and window operators
Greetings Jason!
Yes, reproductions of the LeDeau vent operators are available as are
acrylic replacement domes for the 14" x 24" Astrodome. The reproduction
mechanisms are not an exact copy of the original but are functional
replacements. Both products are available from Inland RV. Their
website is:
http://www.inlandrv.com/parts
The link for a picture of the astrodome is:
http://www.inlandrv.com/parts/001s-astrodome.jpg
The link for a picture of the reproduction operators is:
http://www.inlandrv.com/parts/83792-ventoper.jpg
These are the parts that were used in the restoration of the astrodome
on my 1964 Overlander International over a year ago. They are
functionally fantastic, but they are not exact reproductions, however, I
am very satisfied as they were a workable solution that restored the
functionality of a vent that is definitely needed when attending rallies
with minimal electric service.
While I haven't had trouble with the jalousie window operators in my
1964 Overlander, all of the other window operators have been replaced
without problem by Ace Fogdall RV, Inc. in Cedar Falls, Iowa. I suspect
that they would be able to point you in the direction of currently
available operators if anyone could. Their web site address is:
http://www.acefogdallrv.com/service/
The folks at Ace Fogdall RV are very Vintage friendly and are a current
Airstream dealer. They currently have my Overlander in their service
department installing new BAL stabilizer jacks and repairing a
temperamental power inverter. I have also had very good luck with the
parts that I have purchased from Inland RV.
Good luck with your decision!
Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359
-----Original Message-----
From: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net [mailto:VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net] On Behalf Of
Okydokey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:56 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Rectangle vents and window operators
Are the vent assemblies to fit in the rectangular (14 x 24 )? vent
openings available. Are the window cranks and operators available for a
'64 with jalousie windows?
Thanks,
Jason
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Message Number: 7
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:48:15 -0600
From: Kevin D Allen <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Re-aligning/bending door?
Greetings Jason!
You might be looking at a "custom ordered" coach. Most of the 1964
Sovereigns had a door-within-a-door arrangement rather than a window in
a door. The link below is to a photo of the door-within-a-door on my
'64 Overlander International:
http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1080
<http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1080&papass=&;
sort=1> &papass=&sort=1
Special order "customs" weren't uncommon during this period of time, and
I have seen one 1964 Sovereign with virtually all of its windows being
of the jalousie type. The jalousie windows are great for ventilation in
all types of weather, but they can be a bit of a headache when it comes
to cleaning.
One of the problems that I encountered with my Overlander's door was
caused by the door blowing open in-transit. It caused a gap at the top
as you describe plus a fractured hinge as well. The Ruths at P & S
Trailer Service in Helena, Ohio repaired the door - - used wood braces
between the opening and the door and carefully applied pressure to
return the door to its proper shape. The hinge, however, has been much
more of a problem - - finally found one, NOS, via an E-Bay auction this
fall - - have yet to have the hinge installed, but this should make the
repair complete.
Good luck with your decition!
Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359
-----Original Message-----
From: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net [mailto:VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net] On Behalf Of
Okydokey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:53 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re-aligning/bending door?
We just looked at a 30' sovereign w/jalousie windows (see previous
post). The door does not seal at the top third of the frame, by a good
inch to inch and a half, but seals at the latch and bottom. Is it
common for this to eventually happen, could it be because of the
Jalousie windows? What is the fix? Can you bend or spring the door to
the proper contour? I thought I read you could take of the inner skin,
bend the door carefully and then reattach to hold it in the desired
shape. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Jason
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:51:29 -0700
From: "Ken and Molly Reed" <archneo@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Silver Streak information
Hello fellow aluminum enthusiasts!
Now that we have completed and have been enjoying our '57 Bubble, we were
bitten once again by the aluminum bug. We just purchased a 1949 Silver
Streak Clipper, in near-mint condition. We have begun the restoration of
the clipper (no time like the present!), and are running into the problem of
lack of information. We realize that a discussion of Silver Streaks may not
apply to the vintage Airstream discussion list, but we know also that
several of you vintage Airstream owners also own Silver Streaks. Hence,
replies should probably be sent offlist. Anyway, our Clipper has a central
bath (no toilet, just space for a porta-potty, and an adorable little
aircraft-type sink and counter). We are wondering, does anyone else have
such an arrangement in their Silver Streak? As we restore, we are trying to
restore as close to original as possible, while taking into consideration
the requirements of our intended use. We also have the front kitchen, with
higher windows. Did any of the Silver Streaks come with an electric
refrigerator, and if so, what brand? One more question, there is evidence
in our trailer of the presence of aluminum blinds on the side windows as
well as curtains. Does anyone know if these trailers originally had both on
the sides, or just blinds? (It's obvious the front and rear curved windows
had only curtains.)
Any replies and/or photos would be greatly appreciated!
Ken & Molly Reed
'57 Bubble; '57 Suburban
'49 Silver Streak Clipper, under restoration!
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:02:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Duane Leisle <fireguy42@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Electrical on "68" Ambassador
Anyone with suggestions for my electrical on a "68"
28' Ambassador Airstream? I have the 110v plugged in
and have 110v power to the inside of the trailer, but
no 12v power. Could the inverter be bad and if so (it
is the original) where and what should I replace it
with?? I have the original control panel that shows a
green light when plugged into 110v. Does anyone have
diagrams on what all the other red, yellow, green
light indicators are for?
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:04:10 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Electrical on "68" Ambassador
Do you have a battery in the trailer? If not, hook one up and see if you
have 12v power. If there's no power that way, check the 12v distribution
panel for a blown fuse.
More than likely the converter is bad. Can you hear it hum? On these old
converters, if it ain't humming it ain't working.
Roger
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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Message Number: 11
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:35:32 -0500
From: <r_gill@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Prodigy Brake Controller?
I have a question about the Prodigy brake controller.
It says that it has a power-save mode to reduce battery drain while vehicle is not in use. Does this mean that you should disconnect the wire harness under the dash when your not hooked up to the trailer?
I plan on just installing it in my tow vehicle and leaving it installed and do not want to unhook the wire harness after each use.
On my Reese controller that's been in my truck for over 2 years I've never disconnected it and never had problems with battery drain. I hope that I can do the same with the Prodigy. Any one know of any problems with this?
Thanks
Bobby Gill
'73Ambassador
'02 Suburban 4X4 (Prodigy Brake Controller)
'88 K1500 4X4 (Reese Brake Controller)
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:07:31 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Prodigy Brake Controller?
"It says that it has a power-save mode to reduce battery drain while vehicle
is not in use. Does this mean that you should disconnect the wire harness
under the dash when your not hooked up to the trailer?"
No. The power-saver turns the Prodigy off after a short time when the
engine is turned off. The Prodigy won't come on again until the ignition is
on and the brake pedal is depressed.
Just leave it alone and it will do its thing.
Roger
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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Message Number: 13
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:26:41 -0800
From: Pearl Main <pearlm@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Jalousie windows
Okydokey Hi I have a 64 soverign and the front rib on the door side in front
of the louvered windows was broken.....I went to Jackson center and they tried
to tell me it was normal wear and tear and I walked across to Larry Huddles/s
office and repeated my offer...If its broke you fix it under my lifetime
warranty if it isn't I will pay the labor cost to check it out. Yes, it was
broken in 2 places they repaired it.
Pearl in SoCal
> I just looked at a 30' sovereign with jalousie windows, it appears the wall
> rib to the front of the curbside jalousie window may be broke (wall wiggles).
> Is there an easy fix to this or should I stay away from the unit? Also the
> door does not seal, it hangs out at the top by an inch or more, but seals at
> the latch and towards the bottom, could this be related? Help! We kinda like
> this one.
>
> Jason
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Message Number: 14
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:21:43 -0800
From: "Daniel Cathey" <oldaniel@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re:
I have just bought a ''73, 31' sovereign and its retractable TV antenna is
also missing like Jeffs was. Anyone else out there have one they have
replaced and want to get rid of?
Daniel Cathey
Cottage Grove, OR
----- Original Message -----
From: "VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: [VAC]
> VACList DigestVACList-Digest Saturday, October 26, 2002 Issue
467
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Bat-wing...
> 2. Re: Bat-wing...
> 3. Flying Cloud model at Pottery Barn
> 4. Re: Flying Cloud model at Pottery Barn
> 5. Airstream models
> 6. Re: Airstream models
> 7. Re: Airstream models
> 8. tow vehicle
> 9. Re: Airstream models
> 10. Re: Airstream models
> 11. WBCCI Survey
> 12. Re: Airstream models
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Message Number: 1
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:11:17 -0700
> From: Jeffrey Engle <bedheads@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Bat-wing...
>
> The search is on for a used "Bat-wing" tv antenna, or something
> that will mount on the roof where the old one used to be that's not
> there anymore, any ideas? anybody got one laying around the garage that
> your not using? thanks for the input...
> Jeff & Daile
> Full-Timers
> '77 A/S Sovereign
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 2
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:29:50 -0700
> From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> Subject: Re: Bat-wing...
>
> I have an original crank-up antenna (think it was called Skyliner?) that I
> took off of my '75 Sovereign. It works, I just replaced it with a
satellite
> dish.
>
> You can have it for the packing/shipping. Let me know if you're
interested.
>
> Roger
>
> Roger Hightower
> WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
> 1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
> Mesa, AZ
> mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 3
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:09:34 -0700
> From: Rob Super <rms@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Flying Cloud model at Pottery Barn
>
> Pottery Barn catalog that came this week shows a cast metal model of a
> Flying Cloud, 12.5" x 4.5" x 4"h. Looks pretty nice (don't about
> accuracy of details though), $49. Their site is www.potterybarn.com and
> the item # is 14-4284998.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 4
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:25:52 -0600
> From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: Flying Cloud model at Pottery Barn
>
> Hi Rob, I received one of those and was disappointed with it, so I sent
it
> back to Pottery Barn. I've seen much more accurate model work. GAS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Super" <rms@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:09 PM
> Subject: [VAC] Flying Cloud model at Pottery Barn
>
>
> > Pottery Barn catalog that came this week shows a cast metal model of a
> > Flying Cloud, 12.5" x 4.5" x 4"h. Looks pretty nice (don't about
> > accuracy of details though), $49. Their site is www.potterybarn.com and
> > the item # is 14-4284998.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
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> >
> > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:41:20 -0400
> From: Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Airstream models
>
> Almost what I'm looking for, but not exactly. I mean the model at
> Pottery Barn. Anybody know where a guy can get a nice model for his den.
>
> It can be metal or plastic, so long as it looks good.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
> '72 Ambassador International 29'
> the "General Forrest"
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 6
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:21:42 -0400
> From: "Edward Emerick" <EEMERICK@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Airstream models
>
> Hello,
> The nicest one that I have seen is from Franklin Mint, this is a 1968
> Sovereign. They are often available on Ebay but I've seen the prices get
> as high as $500+ for them, too rich for my blood even if it is the same
> year of the trailer I own! I also have the Pottery Barn model; it's not
> so bad and considering my brother bought it for my birthday I can't
> complain. If I was going to pay the big $$$$$ for something nice I'd go
> the Franklin Mint route.
> Ed
> WBCCI/VAC 4425
> 68 Sovereign
> 59 Traveler
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net [mailto:VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net] On Behalf Of
> Ron Ainsworth
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:41 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList
> Subject: [VAC] Airstream models
>
> Almost what I'm looking for, but not exactly. I mean the model at
> Pottery Barn. Anybody know where a guy can get a nice model for his den.
>
> It can be metal or plastic, so long as it looks good.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
> '72 Ambassador International 29'
> the "General Forrest"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 7
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:19:48 -0500
> From: "D. Reilly" <dmr@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: Airstream models
>
> Here are some pictures of a Brooklin 1953 Airstream Wanderer diecast
model:
>
> http://www.mclaren-models.com/b-autofinder-roadcars.htm
>
> http://www.brooklinmodels.co.uk/carprofile.asp?c=66
>
> My wife got me one of these (she doesn't remember where - it was off the
> internet). I like it very much.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Ainsworth" <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:41 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Airstream models
>
>
> > Almost what I'm looking for, but not exactly. I mean the model at
> > Pottery Barn. Anybody know where a guy can get a nice model for his den.
> >
> > It can be metal or plastic, so long as it looks good.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
> > '72 Ambassador International 29'
> > the "General Forrest"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> >
> > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 8
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:52:14 -0400
> From: Jim Dunmyer <jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: tow vehicle
>
> A couple of days ago, I spotted a tow vehicle sitting alongside the road
> for sale. I called the number on the sign and found out the following:
>
> 1994 Dodge Ram 2500, 8' bed, standard cab, 4X4
> Cummins Turbo Diesel engine
> Auto trans
> Chrome wheels, tires look OK
> Dark green & gray color with matching fiberglass cap
> Running boards/flares, fiberglass, matching paint
> Snow plow included (he said it hasn't plowed much snow)
> Tow package, has receiver and electrical plug
> Get this: 46,700 miles (!)
>
> Asking $12,500.00
>
> Phone number is 734-847-6729, location is about 1 mile north of the Ohio
> line at Toledo, Smith Rd. betweeen Lewis Ave and Telegraph Rd.
>
> FWIW: Kelly Blue book prices it at $12,600.00 for private sale,
> $15,500.00 average dealer retail.
>
> I know nothing more about the truck, would be willing to look at it with
> a potential buyer if you want. (I have a 4X2 1994 Dodge, CTD myself)
>
> --
>
> <<http://www.oldengine.org/members/jdunmyer>>
> <<jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>>
> <<lower SE Michigan, USA>>
> <<mailto:jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 9
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:42:35 -0600
> From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: Airstream models
>
> I liked that 1953 Airstream Wanderer Trailer. Where did your wife
purchase
> it? GAS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D. Reilly" <dmr@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:19 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Airstream models
>
>
> > Here are some pictures of a Brooklin 1953 Airstream Wanderer diecast
> model:
> >
> > http://www.mclaren-models.com/b-autofinder-roadcars.htm
> >
> > http://www.brooklinmodels.co.uk/carprofile.asp?c=66
> >
> > My wife got me one of these (she doesn't remember where - it was off the
> > internet). I like it very much.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Ainsworth" <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:41 AM
> > Subject: [VAC] Airstream models
> >
> >
> > > Almost what I'm looking for, but not exactly. I mean the model at
> > > Pottery Barn. Anybody know where a guy can get a nice model for his
den.
> > >
> > > It can be metal or plastic, so long as it looks good.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
> > > '72 Ambassador International 29'
> > > the "General Forrest"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> > > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> > >
> > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original
text
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> >
> > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 10
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:08:22 -0500
> From: "D. Reilly" <dmr@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: Airstream models
>
> She got it off the internet somewhere. I ask her last night and she
> couldn't remember the actual site where she bought it.
>
> I just did some internet searching and found most places selling them are
> either in the UK or Canada. Here is a USA site:
> http://www.azautozone.com/Auto%20Zone/brooklin.html . I can't vouch for
> them, but I would give them a try.
> There are non on E-bay right now.
>
> Good luck
>
> David
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:42 PM
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Airstream models
>
>
> > I liked that 1953 Airstream Wanderer Trailer. Where did your wife
> purchase
> > it? GAS
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "D. Reilly" <dmr@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:19 AM
> > Subject: [VAC] Re: Airstream models
> >
> >
> > > Here are some pictures of a Brooklin 1953 Airstream Wanderer diecast
> > model:
> > >
> > > http://www.mclaren-models.com/b-autofinder-roadcars.htm
> > >
> > > http://www.brooklinmodels.co.uk/carprofile.asp?c=66
> > >
> > > My wife got me one of these (she doesn't remember where - it was off
the
> > > internet). I like it very much.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ron Ainsworth" <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:41 AM
> > > Subject: [VAC] Airstream models
> > >
> > >
> > > > Almost what I'm looking for, but not exactly. I mean the model at
> > > > Pottery Barn. Anybody know where a guy can get a nice model for his
> den.
> > > >
> > > > It can be metal or plastic, so long as it looks good.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
> > > > '72 Ambassador International 29'
> > > > the "General Forrest"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> Message Number: 11
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:01:59 -0700
> From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> Subject: WBCCI Survey
>
> I just received a survey from the WBCCI, as a "new member", meaning more
> than one year but less than four.
> The survey solicits information on what the member likes/dislikes about
the
> organization and asks for ways to improve, and to make the organization
more
> attractive to younger people.
>
> I'm 66, so had to respond as a senior, but I recall some of the comments
> earlier on the List about having weekend rallies, etc. I really only had
> two suggestions: (1) reduce the cost, since I don't see any value for the
> money I pay each year, and (2) institute the weekend rally concept so
those
> folks who are not retired can join in the events.
>
> I also stated bluntly that I only joined the WBCCI because I had to in
order
> to enjoy the friendship and fun of the VAC.
>
> If you get the survey, please do take the time to complete it and let the
> WBCCI know exactly how you feel.
>
> Roger
>
> Roger Hightower
> WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
> 1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
> Mesa, AZ
> mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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> Message Number: 12
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:40:14 -0500
> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: Airstream models
>
> I did a google search with the terms: diecast airstream.
> I came up lots of hits, some for the wanderer with prices at $79.95 and
> $89.95 As well as the Franklin mint price of $593. Google will repeat
> the search for you.
>
> Gerald
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Message Number: 15
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:21:39 -0800
From: Warren Little <wlittle@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: new participant and axles
I've been reading the list for a long time but this is my first input to
it. I have a 31 ft. 1976 Sovereign that I pull with a 1992 F250. My wife
died at last years Hobo rally but I an keen to continue Airstreaming. I
live in Victoria B.C. Canada and I am about to retire from a 35 year
career as an engineering professor. So much for an introduction!
Since the recent List articles on axles I have been concerned about my
axles. I have had several interesting discussions with Andy at InlandRV
which have been informative.
Yesterday I made some measurements on one axle and found that its
torsion arm position was 0 deg. under no load, 5 deg. under normal load
and 9.25 deg. under twice normal load. These measurements tell me that
the spring constant is about 300 lbs./deg. Andy tells me that the
maximum torsion arm angle is 13.5 deg. I was surprised to learn that the
arm only rotated 4.25 deg. when I doubled the weight on the axle.
Despite Andy's advice I now feel I can live with the axles and they will
not bottom out. I plan however to purchase new shocks and to maintain
the lowest tire air pressure that will not generate excessive heat.
Any comments would be welcome.
Warren Little, #9302
1976 Sovereign
1992 F250
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Message Number: 16
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:55:17 EST
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: new participant and axles
Warren Little.
The axle specs for your trailer called for a 3200 pound rating, and a
starting angle of 25 degrees. The maximum travel from no load to the built in
stop is 35 degrees.
Therefore if the torsion arm is parallel to the chassis, there is 10 degrees
of travel left.
You found yours to be at 5 degrees positive at normal loads. That leaves a
maximum travel left of 7 1/2 degrees. That indicates that you are past border
line. Running low tire pressure is not recommended.
Your correct with regard to the pounds per degree. However, you are using a
non motion measurement. When you are traveling, the weight of the trailer
momentarily increases when it hits bumps. The weight that is present at that
moment, can and does increase dramatically, depending on the bump. A
momentary increase of several "thousand" pounds is considered normal.
It is that momentary weight increase that causes the "bottoming out."
I think that in your case, using the stats that you have provided, your axles
are gone.
Check your ball height when level. It should be over 19 inches, loaded.
We discussed the hazards of bottoming out when you called.
Replacing the shocks, will not offset the degraded axles.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 17
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:39:58 EST
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: new participant and axles
Warren Little. Correction to our previous post. With 10 degrees torsion arm
travel above center, you have 5 degrees left, sitting still. That indicates
an absolute bottoming out, with normal travel, let alone hitting large bumps.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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