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VACList DigestVACList-Digest Thursday, October 17, 2002 Issue 458
Today's Topics:
1. Re: How to protect your address book?
2. Re: How to protect your address book?
3. Re: Stabilizer Jacks?
4. How to get rid of a virus on your hard drive
5. painting plywood
6. compatable dump valve gate
7. foam under black water tank
8. Airstream Stabilizer Jacks...
9. Vistaview repair
10. Hehr roof vent & operators on EBay
11. New Owner hookup question
12. Re: What's that smell?
13. Re: New Owner hookup question
14. Re: What's that Smell
15. Re: New Owner hookup question
16. Re: What's that Smell
17. Re: painting plywood
18. Re: painting plywood
19. Re: painting plywood
20. Re: what if (freeze proofing, dry camping)
21. Re: plywood flooring
22. Re: How to protect your address book?
23. Florescents
24. Re: plywood flooring
25. converter
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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:24:31 -0400
From: jrdorsey <jrdorsey@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: How to protect your address book?
Well, there's a simpler way. You can keep Windows and just go to:
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/default.jsp
and download Netscape. It's easy, it's stable, it's secure, and it's
FREE. (and they make it for LINUX too.)
I used Netscape in Windows for years before I upgraded to a Mac.
That brings us to the second simpler solution. Get an Apple, they aren't
free, but they are Faster, more Stable, almost nobody writes viruses for
them, and even if you use Outlook Express with one, the Windows Outlook
viruses can't get in.
Lastly, it's very easy for the average person to move from Windows to
Mac OS. Windows was originally made to make MS-DOS look like a MAC. When
my cousins' Windows computer died I loaned them my Mac while I fixed
theirs and they operated mine with no problems.
Ron Ainsworth wrote:
>
> Simple, get rid of windows and install LINUX.
>
> Penguins are our friends.
> Ron Ainsworth
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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:26:19 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: How to protect your address book?
The latest versions of Netscape are as vulnerable as outlook. The older
ones aren't so vulnerable, but won't work on every web page.
Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.
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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:29:06 -0500
From: Kevin D Allen <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Stabilizer Jacks?
Greetings Jeff and Daile!
Be extremely cautious as you look at alternatives to the Airstream issue
stabilizing jacks. I thought that I would save a little money and had a
pair of BAL scissors style stabilizer jacks installed on the rear frame
members of my Overlander. Even in their fully retracted position, they
proved to be a clearance issue. They would even drag when crossing some
city intersections with dips where the streets crossed. The jacks would
drag on nearly every driveway that had even the most gradual dip. I
finally ended up dragging the curbside unit off exiting the driveway at
my farm's driveway.
I am going to do what I should have done in the beginning and have the
stabilizing jacks similar to those used on the new rigs installed when I
take my rig into Ace Fogdall to have my regular Winterization and Fall
maintenance.
Good luck with your decision!
Kevin
Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359
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From: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net [mailto:VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net] On Behalf Of
Jeffrey Engle
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Stabilizer Jacks?
I'm looking for stab jacks for my trailer, good fit but not AIRSTREAM
replacements, just looking for some experiences that you all have had,
products verses fit etc. We're a little tight on funds and need an easy
fix. We're using the cheap jack stands at the moment and wish to return
to the stabilizer jacks as they are nicer to use, any ideas?
Jeff & Daile
Full-Timers
'77 A/S Sovereign
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:00:22 -0400
From: Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: How to get rid of a virus on your hard drive
How do you get rid of a virus on your hard drive?
1. erase your entire hard drive
2. install LINUX
The OS is FREE and comes in a lot of flavors. No need to spend a lot of
money for a new Mac when you already have a perfectly good machine. It's
your OS and browser that's causing you problems.
Ron Ainsworth
PS: LINUX is a UNIX system. My 7 year old grandson uses it.
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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:20:42 -0500
From: "Todd McDonald" <tod47d@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: painting plywood
I was tempted to put some paint on the underside of the wood floor whilst
we got the bellypan down.... But it occurred to me that this might just trap
any moisture in the laminates of the plywood in the future so will probably
leave it be---- what is the list's consensus on this decision?
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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:25:37 -0500
From: "Todd McDonald" <tod47d@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: compatable dump valve gate
After noticing a crack and broken ear on the dump valvegate, I am
considering a replacement and was wondering if anyone had found an exact, or
at least and "easy fit" replacement sor the black water holding tank on a 67
Safari 22'
Appreciatively Y'alls--Marlo and Todd in Indianapolis
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:31:46 -0500
From: "Todd McDonald" <tod47d@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: foam under black water tank
While I'm at it.... The styrofoam under our black tank feels real
heavy-maybe 10-20 lbs. !?! Possibly aborbed moisture over the years and I
was wondering if an acceptable alternative would be the blue foam insulation
sheets (around 3/4" thick) stacked up to similar thickness as the original
styrofoam, or is the original supposed to be dense and heavy and I'm just
imagining it to be overweight? again---- thankyou----tod47d
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Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:34:55 -0700
From: Jeffrey Engle <bedheads@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Airstream Stabilizer Jacks...
After a lot of phone work I Came up with some interesting news that
I'm sure some of you will like....This morning, I woke with stabilizer
jacks on the brain! After calling my favorite A/S dealer, found out that
the A/S replacement, (BAL part #23053) was going to cost a wopping
$310.00 + shipping!!, So....I called the BAL company and they very
nicely told me that I could get them, special order through Camping
world for a mere 38 bucks apiece!!, pretty cool! the whole set of 4
after shipping was $155.76 a grand savings of $160.00!!! Oh, yes...they
came with the trusty crank too..needless to say I was pretty happy.
(Other than the occasional high cost of parts, I'm a happy streamer...)
Jeff & Daile
Full-Timers
'77 A/S Sovereign
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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:38:21 -0700
From: Gary HEEBNER <nodoubtinmymind@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Vistaview repair
The factory manufactured and installed the Vistaview in a particular
sequence, thus, would it not be possible to remove and disassemble the unit
in the opposite sequence (in order to clean it up and re-apply the tinting)?
I have the same problem on two of three VV, one top and one lower. Also,
are new ones available, and what is the cost? I noticed that the top one is
a curved glass, and lower is flat.
Gary Heebner
Prince George, BC
'77/31'
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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:50:38 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Hehr roof vent & operators on EBay
If anyone needs such a vent, check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1869507239
Looks to be in excellent condition.
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:14:23 -0700
From: "Daniel Cathey" <oldaniel@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: New Owner hookup question
Hi All,
I have just purchased a 73 31 foot center bath International Sovereign.
I have the owners manual which shows the trailer to tow vehicle
connector as having a 7 prong plug (one center and six outer pins). The
trailer I have has a 9 prong plug ( eight outer and one center pin- with
the pins about twice the size as those on the 7 prong plugs). Was this
standard and if so, does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for this
setup.
The truck I will use has what I thought was the norm which is a
connector having six flat connectors - five around a double in the
center. Since I want to continue using this connector for other
trailers and equipment here on the farm, I will need to make up a new
plug for the Airstream. I can do this using the hunt and peck system
but it would certainly be much easier if a wiring diagram is available.
Called the company tech service line, but no answer.
Any info greatly appreciated.
Dan in Cottage Grove, Oregon
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Message Number: 12
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:21:15 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: Re: What's that smell?
Interesting ideas, but it appears to only be happening when the water heater
is running.
-Tim
tim@telecom-pros.com
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302
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From: "Webmaster" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:27 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: What's that smell?
> One thought is the pilot light in the oven. If the little valve under
> the stove top valve is on, it will emit a small amount of LP, even if
> unlit.
> RJ
>
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 04:03 PM, Tim Shephard wrote:
>
> > On our last trip out we could smell what we think is propane near the
> > water
> > heater. We could only smell it at night with the windows closed.
> >
> > The first couple of trips out we did not notice this.
> >
> > So, after we got back I started the water heater and checked for leaks
> > in
> > the gas line with soapy water and cannot find a leak.
> >
> > Any ideas where to go from here?
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Message Number: 13
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:25:13 -0500
From: "John R. Kleven" <jrkleven@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: New Owner hookup question
Dan,
All of the diagrams are available at www.Airtream.com FAQs
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Cathey
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:14 PM
Subject: [VAC] New Owner hookup question
Hi All,
I have just purchased a 73 31 foot center bath International
Sovereign. I have the owners manual which shows the trailer to tow
vehicle connector as having a 7 prong plug (one center and six outer
pins). The trailer I have has a 9 prong plug ( eight outer and one
center pin- with the pins about twice the size as those on the 7 prong
plugs). Was this standard and if so, does anyone out there have a
wiring diagram for this setup.
The truck I will use has what I thought was the norm which is a
connector having six flat connectors - five around a double in the
center. Since I want to continue using this connector for other
trailers and equipment here on the farm, I will need to make up a new
plug for the Airstream. I can do this using the hunt and peck system
but it would certainly be much easier if a wiring diagram is available.
Called the company tech service line, but no answer.
Any info greatly appreciated.
Dan in Cottage Grove, Oregon
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Message Number: 14
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:50:31 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: What's that Smell
Out my way, Gas companies have very sensitive sniffer equipment, and they'll
come out to your residence free if you smell gas and locate the leak for
you. You might call your gas company and ask if they'd be willing to check
your trailer for you, or contact the local bottled-gas distributor and ask
them the same thing.
Dan Weeks
75 Argosy 26
> From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:03:30 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC]
>
> What's that smell?
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Message Number: 15
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:48:48 -0500
From: "John R. Kleven" <jrkleven@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: New Owner hookup question
That was misspelled. www.airstream.com Sorry.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: John R. Kleven=20
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:25 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: New Owner hookup question
Dan,
All of the diagrams are available at www.Airtream.com FAQs
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Cathey
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:14 PM
Subject: [VAC] New Owner hookup question
Hi All,
I have just purchased a 73 31 foot center bath International
Sovereign. I have the owners manual which shows the trailer to tow
vehicle connector as having a 7 prong plug (one center and six outer
pins). The trailer I have has a 9 prong plug ( eight outer and one
center pin- with the pins about twice the size as those on the 7 prong
plugs). Was this standard and if so, does anyone out there have a
wiring diagram for this setup.
The truck I will use has what I thought was the norm which is a
connector having six flat connectors - five around a double in the
center. Since I want to continue using this connector for other
trailers and equipment here on the farm, I will need to make up a new
plug for the Airstream. I can do this using the hunt and peck system
but it would certainly be much easier if a wiring diagram is available.
Called the company tech service line, but no answer.
Any info greatly appreciated.
Dan in Cottage Grove, Oregon
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Message Number: 16
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:06:01 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: What's that Smell
Why waste time? Call the Fire Department and tell them you smell gas. ;)
Bet that's the fastest route. Make sure to tell them it's not too big of a
deal but you just thought they'd like to know.
Tom
> Out my way, Gas companies have very sensitive sniffer equipment, and
they'll
> come out to your residence free if you smell gas and locate the leak for
> you. You might call your gas company and ask if they'd be willing to check
> your trailer for you, or contact the local bottled-gas distributor and ask
> them the same thing.
>
> Dan Weeks
> 75 Argosy 26
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Message Number: 17
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:14:18 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: painting plywood
Shellac is a great sealer for marine grade plywood. Make sure you use at
least Marine Grade plywood as that is what was originally used in my 1969
model anyway.
I took our old carpets up, sanded the floor nicely and applied a nice couple
of coats of shellac, allowing drying time between coats of course.
I see nothing wrong with sealing the underside of the wood as it's already
treated for moisture, your call.
But, I would NOT just prime it and let it go as primer may have the ability
to hold water even on the bottom side due to surface friction. You would be
better off to either leave the bottom side alone or seal it with Shellac.
Shellac won't hold moisture but it will seal the pores which will stop it
from absorbing moisture.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd McDonald" <tod47d@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:20 PM
Subject: [VAC] painting plywood
> I was tempted to put some paint on the underside of the wood floor whilst
> we got the bellypan down.... But it occurred to me that this might just
trap
> any moisture in the laminates of the plywood in the future so will
probably
> leave it be---- what is the list's consensus on this decision?
>
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Message Number: 18
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:26:19 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: painting plywood
There is no difference in the glue between exterior grade fir and marine
grade plywood. The only difference is marine plywood is sanded 2 sides and
has no voids in the inner plys. I seriously doubt that Airstream ever used
marine plywood for anything in the catching industry we used exterior ply in
the inner parta(the soule "floor" for example.
Shellac is possibly the worse sealer that you can find.If you relay want to
seal off the ply use Epoxy penetrating resin and double seal the edges as
capillary action will attract moisture and start the rot.
Jim Smith
1965 Tradewind(The Silver Abaltross)
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Message Number: 19
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:07:49 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: painting plywood
The other difference between exterior (cdx ) and marine is that most
5/8 exterior is only 5 laminations and most marine fir is seven so it is
stronger , also the glue would saturate the thinner plys more so is more
rot resistant . As Jim said , the plys in marine have no voids , which
might also mean a higher quality log , or a higher quality part of the
log - even if the voids are plugged with patches of wood or bondo it
would be better than an empty place for water to collect and fungus to
grow were one to show up on the edge you cut .
Me - I spent the extra 25 -30 bucks . Which is a lot for a Scotsman
like me ! ( forgive my racist slur )
Chris Elliott
JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> There is no difference in the glue between exterior grade fir and
> marine grade plywood. The only difference is marine plywood is sanded
> 2 sides and has no voids in the inner plys.
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Message Number: 20
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 05:38:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: jon fitz <fitzjo1@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: what if (freeze proofing, dry camping)
I have no experience with towing a "wet" camper in
winter weather. But, I have lot's of experience with
dry camping. Here's a few things I've learned.
Perhaps they'll interest some folks...
*Get one of those skinny water dispensers (approx. 2"
wide at the valve). It sits coveniently between the
sink and wall.
*You can still use the sink. Fill it manually.
Collect the gray water in a smaller "blue tank" and
empty it frequently. Put a little anti-freeze in the
traps before travelling.
*Use paper plates :) Cook on cast-iron fry pans (your
grandmother told you not to wash them anyway, right?)
*And finally, the ultimate winter treat: cheese
fondue. Get it ready-made in a foil pack, put it in
boiling water. Line another pot with foil. Put the
heated fondue in the foil lined pan and put that pan
into the pan of hot water. Serve with white wine,
broccoli, bread and apples. Clean up is about 5
minutes and your Significant Other WILL be impressed!
Jon in SC
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Message Number: 21
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:20:31 -0700
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: plywood flooring
Subject: [VAC] Re: painting plywood
The other difference between exterior (cdx ) and marine is that most
5/8 exterior is only 5 laminations and most marine fir is seven so it is
stronger , also the glue would saturate the thinner plys more so is more
rot resistant . As Jim said , the plys in marine have no voids , which
might also mean a higher quality log , or a higher quality part of the
log - even if the voids are plugged with patches of wood or bondo it
would be better than an empty place for water to collect and fungus to
grow were one to show up on the edge you cut .
Me - I spent the extra 25 -30 bucks . Which is a lot for a Scotsman
like me ! ( forgive my racist slur )
Chris Elliott .
Chris,
From one Scotsman to another and all else interested,
A buddy of mine has a company that supplies the Transit Industry with
floors for urban buses. The Bus manufacturer sets the specs on the
flooring materials to be supplied. He uses a product called "XL Bus
Panel". They don't paint or coat it at all. The following is an excerpt
from their Product Information Sheet:
"XL Bus Panel is an extension of Greenwood's specialty plywood panels
designed to be used for bus floors. XL Bus Panel is a pressure-preserved
plywood panel impregnated with ACQ preservatives. ACQ is an
environmentally friendly treatment which effectively controls rot
without using EPA listed hazardous compounds. Panels are manufactured to
the same exacting specifications used in Greenwood's boatbuilding
plywood, including marine-grade glue. XL Bus Panels carries a 12 year
limited warranty specifically for bus manufacturers. XL Bus Panels can
be used wherever structural panels are needed and is especially
beneficial where panels will be exposed to water"
I did a websearch on the manufacturer "Greenwood Forest Products" and
discovered that they have boat plywood also called "XL" which they offer
a 50 year guarantee. That's about the age of many of our Airstreams. I
guess this where the Scotsman part of me comes out in that I was given
enough large offcuts to completely replace the floor of my 57 Sovereign
of the Road. I realize that this does not benefit everyone however I
would have gladly paid the full price on wood floor materials that I
would be sure will never have to be replaced again in my lifetime. I
would imagine that it would be available through marine suppliers or
possibly contact Greenwood directly. I don't have any connection with
Greenwood Forest Products. If anyone is interested let me know offlist
and I'll fax you a copy of the specs.
Colin Hyde
57 Sovereign of the Road
59 Ambassador International
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Message Number: 22
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:03:49 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: How to protect your address book?
There's always a "simpler" way if you don't have an investment in a
particular email program (Outlook). I like my Microsoft Outlook and am not
interested in how bad it is from people selling Linux, Netscape, Apples and
all the other wannabes :)
Frankly, I haven't had ANY of the much maligned problems that have been
attributed to PCs. PCs can't be so bad. Without them our business systems
would just stop and the internet would be a small club. The economies of
scale allowable by open PC architecture more than make up for any
prehistoric difficulties that keep being recited by PC detractors.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "jrdorsey" <jrdorsey@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAC] Re: How to protect your address book?
> Well, there's a simpler way. You can keep Windows and just go to:
> http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/default.jsp
> and download Netscape. It's easy, it's stable, it's secure, and it's
> FREE. (and they make it for LINUX too.)
>
> I used Netscape in Windows for years before I upgraded to a Mac.
>
> That brings us to the second simpler solution. Get an Apple, they aren't
> free, but they are Faster, more Stable, almost nobody writes viruses for
> them, and even if you use Outlook Express with one, the Windows Outlook
> viruses can't get in.
>
> Lastly, it's very easy for the average person to move from Windows to
> Mac OS. Windows was originally made to make MS-DOS look like a MAC. When
> my cousins' Windows computer died I loaned them my Mac while I fixed
> theirs and they operated mine with no problems.
>
> Ron Ainsworth wrote:
> >
> > Simple, get rid of windows and install LINUX.
> >
> > Penguins are our friends.
> > Ron Ainsworth
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> Wauchula FL
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> '49 3800 Chevy Panel
> '52 640 GMC Firetruck
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Message Number: 23
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:38:06 -0400
From: "David W. Lowrey" <dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Florescents
Are there 12 volt florescent fixtures that can be installed inside the
white light cover that is normally around an Airstream vent (The one with 6
12V bulbs)?
Dave
_________________________________________________________________
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WBCCI: 5074
1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message Number: 24
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:35:07 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: plywood flooring
I used pressure treated exterior plywood for the floor replacement in my
' 68 Tradewind. On Wally's theory that enough isn't enough, I took Jim
Smith's boat building recommendation and coated it with penetrating
epoxy. It may not last 50 years -- but then I won't either.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: chyde
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 17:20
Subject: [VAC] Re: plywood flooring
Chris,
From one Scotsman to another and all else interested,
A buddy of mine has a company that supplies the Transit Industry
with floors for urban buses. The Bus manufacturer sets the specs on the
flooring materials to be supplied. He uses a product called "XL Bus
Panel". They don't paint or coat it at all. The following is an excerpt
from their Product Information Sheet:
"XL Bus Panel is an extension of Greenwood's specialty plywood
panels designed to be used for bus floors. XL Bus Panel is a
pressure-preserved plywood panel impregnated with ACQ preservatives. ACQ
is an environmentally friendly treatment which effectively controls rot
without using EPA listed hazardous compounds. Panels are manufactured to
the same exacting specifications used in Greenwood's boatbuilding
plywood, including marine-grade glue. XL Bus Panels carries a 12 year
limited warranty specifically for bus manufacturers. XL Bus Panels can
be used wherever structural panels are needed and is especially
beneficial where panels will be exposed to water"
I did a websearch on the manufacturer "Greenwood Forest Products"
and discovered that they have boat plywood also called "XL" which they
offer a 50 year guarantee. That's about the age of many of our
Airstreams. I guess this where the Scotsman part of me comes out in that
I was given enough large offcuts to completely replace the floor of my
57 Sovereign of the Road. I realize that this does not benefit everyone
however I would have gladly paid the full price on wood floor materials
that I would be sure will never have to be replaced again in my
lifetime. I would imagine that it would be available through marine
suppliers or possibly contact Greenwood directly. I don't have any
connection with Greenwood Forest Products. If anyone is interested let
me know offlist and I'll fax you a copy of the specs.
Colin Hyde
57 Sovereign of the Road
59 Ambassador International
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Message Number: 25
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:40:47 -0400
From: "W.E.Spinney" <w.e.spinney@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: converter
We need a new converter. We will probably buy it at Camping World. We
have a 1971 Safari. Is there a converter you folks would recommend? Our
battery tipped over onto the converter and shorted out the wiring while we
were bouncing along the roads of Cape Breton. Thank you for any help. Bill
and Ruth of the Sizzling Safari
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