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VACList DigestVACList-Digest       Friday, October 4, 2002      Issue 445
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Painting of an Airstream
        2. Re: Tire ware.
        3. Re: Painting of an Airstream
        4. Re: Tire ware.
        5. Painting of an Airstream
        6. Re: Tire ware.
        7. Re: Tire ware.
        8. Re: Colin, Terry -- 6.2 liter diesel engine book
        9. Re: Painting of an Airstream
       10. Re: "air guitars" & puller rentals
       11. Re: Painting of an Airstream
       12. Re: Painting of an Airstream
       13. Re: Tire ware.
       14. Re: Tire ware.
       15. Re: Colin, Terry -- 6.2 liter diesel engine book
       16. Re: Colin, Terry -- 6.2 liter diesel engine book
       17. Re: Tip for laying vinyl tile
       18. Re: Tip for laying vinyl tile
       19. Re: Airstream nose art
       20. Re: Towing with a Dart
       21. Dart again
       22. Suburban 6.2 w/retrofitted banks sidewinder (was vintage tow	vehicles)
       23. Re: Tip for laying vinyl tile
       24. Replacement Taillights
       25. Re: Replacement Taillights
       26. Re: Painting of an Airstream
       27. Re: Hot Water heater
       28. Re: Suburban 6.2 w/retrofitted banks sidewinder (was vintage tow	vehicles)
       29. Electrical woes
       30. Re: Replacement Taillights
       31. Re: Tip for laying vinyl tile
       32. Re: Replacement Taillights




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Message Number: 1
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:03:55 -0400
From: Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Painting of an Airstream

Hey Lefty,

How about a nice tweed, or a bright plaid? ;-).

Just kidding guys. Truth is, I've been thinking about getting the Gen.
Forrest painted since we've had it. Just haven't made up my mind about
color/colors and such. 

I think nose art would be kewl.Any ideas out there?

Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
72 Ambassador International 29'
Penguins are our Friends




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Message Number: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:20:36 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tire ware.


Jim, describe what you mean by cupped. If you mean flat places, wouldn't =
that be causes by tire and wheel balance problems?

Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com=20
  To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 19:24
  Subject: [VAC] Tire ware.


  Today I was under my trailer and found all 4 tires cupped. I would =
judge from the looks that there is excessive tow in. or it may be =
posable one or more of the axle arms are bent slightly.Has any one else =
had that problem and what was the cure?
  Jim Smith=20
  1965 Tradewind (The Silver Abaltross)




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Message Number: 3
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 19:31:08 -0500
From: lefty frizzell <leftyfrizzell@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Painting of an Airstream

Ron, I'm kinda into stripes.  But, I'm gonna have to see what Andy
recommends.  He said something about painting a face on the front using
the propane tanks.

I can't wait to see what he wants to do to the back!!

 
 
 
 
Lefty Frizzell
http://home.earthlink.net/~leftyfrizzell
 
****
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Today is not your day. 
Tomorrow is not looking too good either.
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-----Original Message-----
From: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net [mailto:VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net] On Behalf Of
Ron Ainsworth
Sent: October 03, 2002 19:04
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Painting of an Airstream


Hey Lefty,

How about a nice tweed, or a bright plaid? ;-).

Just kidding guys. Truth is, I've been thinking about getting the Gen.
Forrest painted since we've had it. Just haven't made up my mind about
color/colors and such. 

I think nose art would be kewl.Any ideas out there?

Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
72 Ambassador International 29'
Penguins are our Friends





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Message Number: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:54:09 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tire ware.


Hi Jim,

I think I read where the condition you have may be caused by running the =
tires at too low air pressure.  Or, grossly out of balance.  Certainly =
you wouldn't think that all four would be out of balance.  So, I opt for =
the running at low air pressure. =20

As I recall, I only had one tire that was cupped on the inside.  Don't =
know how old the tire was or what experience it had in towing.

So, what is the angle of your torsion arms?

                                     '74 Argosy, Joy
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com=20
  To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:24 PM
  Subject: [VAC] Tire ware.


  Today I was under my trailer and found all 4 tires cupped. I would =
judge from the looks that there is excessive tow in. or it may be =
posable one or more of the axle arms are bent slightly.Has any one else =
had that problem and what was the cure?
  Jim Smith=20
  1965 Tradewind (The Silver Abaltross)



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Message Number: 5
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 21:04:20 -0400
From: Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Painting of an Airstream

Way to go Lefty!

Ha ha ha ha ha. ROTFL I get your drift. Boy would THAT shake some people
up.

Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
72 Ambassador International 29'
Penguins are our Friends





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Message Number: 6
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:02:27 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Tire ware.



I doubt it because I had about 12 k miles before this last trip all 4 tires 
show the same type of ware .the shocks were replaced about 3 years ago and 
have less than 20 k miles.trying to figure it out i was masuring the frame 
for a possable axle replacement. will make a gig this week end to check the 
toe in. Jim Smith


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Message Number: 7
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:07:41 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Tire ware.



It doesn't seem to be low tire pressure type ware I have had enough experance 
to reconise that the arms are at aprox 0 degree angle the frame lists about 
1/2 in to the street side.
Jim Smith


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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:18:22 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Colin, Terry -- 6.2 liter diesel engine book

Terry and Colin,

How about buying a *new* copy of this book I found for you at Amazon.com?

Here you go:

General Motors: THE 6.2 LITER DIESEL ENGINE #16015.05-2

>http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y03Y1838659Y7415091/104
-1769526-1821506<

Price:  $19.95

Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303


From: "Terry Tyler" <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>


> on 10/03/02 10:30 AM, chyde at chyde@primelink1.net wrote:
>
> > I ended up purchasing an Ex Air Force 87 3/4 ton Suburban with 22,000
miles
> > and no rust. This vehicle has the 6.2 liter diesel engine .....
>
> Hi Colin,
>
> Congrats on the tow vehicle. As you know, I have one too.
>
> Also, I have "The 6.2 Liter Diesel Engine" manual (1 inch thick) published
> by GM (Product Service Training). There is only one differentiating number
> on it (16015.05-1C) and no name of a publishing house. It was published in
> 1984.
>
> If you're into this sort of publication, I'm sure there's a used copy
around
> someplace.
>
> FYI
>
> Terry



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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:44:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Painting of an Airstream

This whole thread reminds me of one we had a couple
years ago - although then I think everyone was talking
about "creating" the worn patina, or having their
whole coach "machine turned."

I mentioned nose art then too, thinking it was a cool
idea - but it was silly then too - haven't seen anyone
do any of it yet!

Toby

--- Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> Hey Lefty,
> 
> How about a nice tweed, or a bright plaid? ;-).
> 
> Just kidding guys. Truth is, I've been thinking
> about getting the Gen.
> Forrest painted since we've had it. Just haven't
> made up my mind about
> color/colors and such. 
> 
> I think nose art would be kewl.Any ideas out there?
> 
> Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
> 72 Ambassador International 29'
> Penguins are our Friends
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:47:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: "air guitars" & puller rentals

There are adapters for all styles - I think it would
be a great idea to carry these as a precaution just in
case anyway.

I attached the adapter to go from 7 pins to 4 pins to
get my trailer home.  luckily all the lights worked,
but as I remember, encountering our first stop sign
was an adventure!

Toby

--- "John R. Kleven" <jrkleven@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> Dave,
> That is exactly what I did, built my own adapter. 
> Then I realized the best
> approach for me was to rewire the trailer plug to
> "Standard" seven blade in
> the event my tow vehicle ever breaks down and
> somebody else has to tow my
> trailer.  Better chance that a newer truck will have
> blade type.  I only did
> this because my round style was shot, otherwise the
> adapters work fine.  I
> also carry the seven-to-four adapter just in case
> somebody offers to help
> that is wired for a boat only.
> Randy
> 
> > I have a cable that has the "old" round connectors
> on one end, and the
> > "modern" flat connectors on the other end.
> >
> > Dave
> 
> 
> 
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 23:15:15 -0400
From: Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Painting of an Airstream

Toby, I think you got the idea. Don't you think tweed and plaid are 
just a bit silly too?

Ron

On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 22:44, Toby Folwick wrote:
> This whole thread reminds me of one we had a couple
> years ago - although then I think everyone was talking
> about "creating" the worn patina, or having their
> whole coach "machine turned."
> 
> I mentioned nose art then too, thinking it was a cool
> idea - but it was silly then too - haven't seen anyone
> do any of it yet!
> 
> Toby
> 
> --- Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> > Hey Lefty,
> > 
> > How about a nice tweed, or a bright plaid? ;-).
> > 
> > Just kidding guys. Truth is, I've been thinking
> > about getting the Gen.
> > Forrest painted since we've had it. Just haven't
> > made up my mind about
> > color/colors and such. 
> > 
> > I think nose art would be kewl.Any ideas out there?
> > 
> > Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
> > 72 Ambassador International 29'
> > Penguins are our Friends
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:34:15 -0500
From: lefty frizzell <leftyfrizzell@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Painting of an Airstream

Not if the plaid is Fraiser, matey.

Nothing silly about that.

 
 
 
 
Lefty Frizzell
http://home.earthlink.net/~leftyfrizzell
 
****
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Today is not your day. 
Tomorrow is not looking too good either.
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-----Original Message-----
From: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net [mailto:VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net] On Behalf Of
Ron Ainsworth
Sent: October 03, 2002 22:15
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: Painting of an Airstream


Toby, I think you got the idea. Don't you think tweed and plaid are 
just a bit silly too?

Ron

On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 22:44, Toby Folwick wrote:
> This whole thread reminds me of one we had a couple
> years ago - although then I think everyone was talking
> about "creating" the worn patina, or having their
> whole coach "machine turned."
> 
> I mentioned nose art then too, thinking it was a cool
> idea - but it was silly then too - haven't seen anyone
> do any of it yet!
> 
> Toby
> 
> --- Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> > Hey Lefty,
> > 
> > How about a nice tweed, or a bright plaid? ;-).
> > 
> > Just kidding guys. Truth is, I've been thinking
> > about getting the Gen.
> > Forrest painted since we've had it. Just haven't
> > made up my mind about
> > color/colors and such.
> > 
> > I think nose art would be kewl.Any ideas out there?
> > 
> > Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
> > 72 Ambassador International 29'
> > Penguins are our Friends
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> >  
> 
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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:55:39 -0500
From: "John R. Kleven" <jrkleven@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Tire ware.


Jim,
If you have new shocks and your wheels/tires are balanced then you =
should have additional tire wear indications in addition to cupping if =
your axles are misaligned.  Cupping WITHOUT other scuffing patterns is =
normally balance or suspension related but I suppose anything is =
possible.  Good luck.
Randy
  I doubt it because I had about 12 k miles before this last trip all 4 =
tires show the same type of ware .the shocks were replaced about 3 years =
ago and have less than 20 k miles.trying to figure it out i was masuring =
the frame for a possable axle replacement. will make a gig this week end =
to check the toe in. Jim Smith




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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:25:11 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tire ware.

Tires worn from wrong toe tend to have one edge worn, no cups. If the
wear is mostly the center of the tread and less on the edges but
continuous around the circumference of the tire that's a sign of over
inflation in bias ply tires.

Cups or small flat spots around the tires tend to come from something
loose, like shocks, could be shock bushings, or wheel bearings. Might
come from locking brakes.

Gerald
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.


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Message Number: 15
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 01:03:49 -0600
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Colin, Terry -- 6.2 liter diesel engine book

Thanks Tom, 

Colin can have it. I already have mine.

Terry 




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Message Number: 16
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:21:10 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Colin, Terry -- 6.2 liter diesel engine book

The pleasure is all mine. ;)

Tom

Subject: [VAC] Re: Colin, Terry -- 6.2 liter diesel engine book


> Thanks Tom, 
> 
> Colin can have it. I already have mine.
> 
> Terry 


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Message Number: 17
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 06:40:31 -0400
From: Dave Lowrey <dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Tip for laying vinyl tile

Would this still be the case if I applied the Armstrong subfloor 
filler/leveler first?

Dave

At 12:26 PM 10/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Whenever floor tile is installed directly to the plywood floor an any
>Airstream trailer, a word or two of caution for your long term enjoyment of
>the floor.
>DO NOT install one piece linoleum over the floor seams. In time, it will
>crack at every plywood seam. Same applies to floor tile. Seam it at the floor
>seams, if not, they too will crack at the plywood seams.
>The floor seams move ever so slightly. In doing so, the floor coverings will
>crack at those seams.
>
>Andy
>inlandrv.com
>airstreamparts.com
>
>
>
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_________________________________________________________________
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WBCCI: 5074

1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio




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Message Number: 18
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 06:40:31 -0400
From: Dave Lowrey <dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Tip for laying vinyl tile

Would this still be the case if I applied the Armstrong subfloor 
filler/leveler first?

Dave

At 12:26 PM 10/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Whenever floor tile is installed directly to the plywood floor an any
>Airstream trailer, a word or two of caution for your long term enjoyment of
>the floor.
>DO NOT install one piece linoleum over the floor seams. In time, it will
>crack at every plywood seam. Same applies to floor tile. Seam it at the floor
>seams, if not, they too will crack at the plywood seams.
>The floor seams move ever so slightly. In doing so, the floor coverings will
>crack at those seams.
>
>Andy
>inlandrv.com
>airstreamparts.com
>
>
>
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_________________________________________________________________
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WBCCI: 5074

1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio




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Message Number: 19
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 05:55:36 -0600
From: "Fred Coldwell" <Agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Airstream nose art

Toby:

   A Wyoming cowboy appears as Airstream nose art on page 42
of Robert Landau and James Phillippi's 1984 book
"AIRSTREAM".  The photo was taken at a WBCCI International
Rally a while ago, no year given.   

Fred in Denver. 

Toby Folwick wrote:
> 
> This whole thread reminds me of one we had a couple
> years ago - although then I think everyone was talking
> about "creating" the worn patina, or having their
> whole coach "machine turned."
> 
> I mentioned nose art then too, thinking it was a cool
> idea - but it was silly then too - haven't seen anyone
> do any of it yet!
> 
> Toby


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Message Number: 20
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 07:57:09 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Towing with a Dart

Marc:

Don't even think about it. I towed a very light 16' Serro Scotty Sportsman
(no toilet, no shower, no air, weighed about 1,500 lbs) for a while with a
Dodge Aspen with a 225 slant six and a 4-speed manual trans. Wide open in
third, with a tail wind, I would occasionally see sixty. I used to have to
draft trucks to get up to speed. Truck lane type hills had me down to 40 in
second, wide open and screaming. The 225 is probably the best straight six
ever built, and it would run wide open all day with no complaint, but you'd
never get out of second gear towing an excella. Plus, the Dart is WAY too
small, short, and light to keep that big a trailer under control, and the
suspension too undersprung to handle the tongue weight, even with an
equalizer. That, and the '68 Dart had little tiny 8" drum brakes, as I
remember, that were barely adequate to stop the car itself. With 4.11 gears,
a 4-speed wide-ratio manual trans or an auto with a big trans cooler, and
retrofitted later-model disk brakes, the car would be adequate for handling
a small pop-up trailer, but much as I love those darts, that's about as much
as I'd want to tow with one.

Dan Weeks


> From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:03:12 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] 
> 
> Subject: tow vehicle
> 
> I have a 31' Excella which is stored in Arizona, which I haven't towed yet.
> I also have a 1968 Dodge Dart (225ci slant-6 motor) out there which I could
> put a receiver on.  Can I get opinions about what kind of experience I would
> have pulling the Excella with it?  Would it be within the range to get away
> with pulling the stock Excella?  If the consensus is "no", I'd like to know
> what kind of conditions I COULD use the slant-6 to pull it under?
> 
> Marc Bossiere
> Reston, Virginia



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Message Number: 21
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 08:02:25 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Dart again

Guess I should have paged down first. No, and no, respectively. The dart
didn't come with a 360. Even the 340, which it could be ordered with, would
be marginal--in a half-ton van! The chassis just won't do it. You're trying
to tow a horse trailer with a tricycle. If all you need to do is get it
across Tuscon, just find someone with a truck that would be willing to do it
for you. 

Dan Weeks

> From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:03:12 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] 
> 
> Subject: "air guitar"  Seriously?
> 
> 
>> In my mind's eye all I can see is the rear of the now lowered Dodge Dart on
>> the ground with the steering tires in the air.  Sort of like an "air guitar"
>> but in this case it would be steering tires that didn't go left or right,
>> the "air guitar" makes no sound either. ;)
> 
> I got a good chuckle from this.  Guess I should heed this deluge of NO!
> DON'T TRY IT on the slant-6 question.  I was aware it was a mismatch, but
> for example, what if this were a 318 or a 360 ci Dodge Dart?  Same chassis,
> but more pulling power.  I just needed to know if I could get it across
> Tucson with it.  Maybe not, huh?
> 
> MB



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Message Number: 22
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 08:14:56 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Suburban 6.2 w/retrofitted banks sidewinder (was vintage tow	vehicles)

Colin:

Interesting! How much did the banks sidewinder cost to buy and install? Is
it a simple bolt-on installation or does it require custom mods? Who did the
installation? WHat are the HP, Torque, and fuel milage figures, pulling and
not? Sounds like a great idea, and I want to get informed before I consider
it. I assume you have the automatic? Was the 6.2 avail with a stick?

Dan Weeks
Argosy 26



> From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:03:12 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] 
> 
> This vehicle has the 6.2 liter
> diesel engine which I have since found out doesn't really have enough umph
> to pull our 59 Ambassador up the hills here in upstate NY let alone the
> Rockies. It does however pull very well on the flats. As this body style
> came out in the early 70's I was comfortable with the perceived "vintage
> look".  I have recently installed a new Banks "Sidewinder" Turbo which has
> completely transformed the vehicle. It now has similar hp and torque outputs
> to current offerings, the great fuel economy got even better and the engine
> now runs cooler. 



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Message Number: 23
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:23:48 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Tip for laying vinyl tile

Dave. The cracks will go through most anything, in time. That was the reason 
carpet was used.

Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com


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Message Number: 24
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:44:30 -0400
From: frances.mierzwa@xxxxxxxxxx.ge.com
Subject: Replacement Taillights

Folks,

Don't know if anyone has been considering new tail lights, but I've been
having a helluva time given the location of the wiring hole out of the rear
skin panel.  I could not readily install a flush mount design because the
existing holes are right next to ribs, and further, both are to the "left"
of each rib -- i.e., not centered to the rear.  In looking for lights, it's
been tough getting a three wire (I'd like a wired ground) that have a flat
back (bolt to skin) fit.

But I think I found something to be excited about.  I found a 7" (yes, a
little larger than the old) LED light for $40.00/each from Doran
manufacturing in Ohio.  This is a significantly better price than I've found
for similar NAPA and other on-line sources.  It also comes with mounting
gaskets, extra costs if sourced from Truck-lite (Signal-stat was acquired by
them).  

For anyone interested, you can contact Scott Comisar at 1-800-681-5424.  

www.doranmfg.com

Fran


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Message Number: 25
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:12:01 -0500
From: "D. Reilly" <dmr@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Replacement Taillights

Here is the exact location:  http://www.doranmfg.com/final_pages/doran_7.pdf





----- Original Message -----
From: <frances.mierzwa@xxxxxxxxxx.ge.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:44 AM
Subject: [VAC] Replacement Taillights


> Folks,
>
> Don't know if anyone has been considering new tail lights, but I've been
> having a helluva time given the location of the wiring hole out of the
rear
> skin panel.  I could not readily install a flush mount design because the
> existing holes are right next to ribs, and further, both are to the "left"
> of each rib -- i.e., not centered to the rear.  In looking for lights,
it's
> been tough getting a three wire (I'd like a wired ground) that have a flat
> back (bolt to skin) fit.
>
> But I think I found something to be excited about.  I found a 7" (yes, a
> little larger than the old) LED light for $40.00/each from Doran
> manufacturing in Ohio.  This is a significantly better price than I've
found
> for similar NAPA and other on-line sources.  It also comes with mounting
> gaskets, extra costs if sourced from Truck-lite (Signal-stat was acquired
by
> them).
>
> For anyone interested, you can contact Scott Comisar at 1-800-681-5424.
>
> www.doranmfg.com
>
> Fran




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Message Number: 26
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:46:32 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Painting of an Airstream

Let's get serious here.  There are advertising companies that would LEAP at
the chance to emblazon a vintage Airstream coach, windows and all, with a
trendy advertising message from a couple dozen sponsors.  Mountain Dew,
Nike, Sunburst, Tic-Tac and on and on.

We could probably pay our park rent with the proceeds . . . if any park
would let us in.  We could defray our mortgage costs at the expense of
neighborly relations.

They're doing such painting with Beetles, PT Cruisers and other SUV's.  Why
not Airstreams?

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA

From: "lefty frizzell" <leftyfrizzell@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Painting of an Airstream


> Ron, I'm kinda into stripes.  But, I'm gonna have to see what Andy
> recommends.



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Message Number: 27
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:03:41 -0700
From: Bill Worden <fantods@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Hot Water heater

Yikes! Another thing about hot water. It sure is easy to get into.




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Message Number: 28
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:33:01 -0700
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: Suburban 6.2 w/retrofitted banks sidewinder (was vintage tow	vehicles)

Dan,
I'll email you off list and  fill you in on all the specs etc. I don't think
everyone on the list want hear about this if it's not somehow connected to
an Airstream.
Colin Hyde
Email: chyde@primelink1.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Weeks" <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:14 AM
Subject: [VAC] Suburban 6.2 w/retrofitted banks sidewinder (was vintage tow
vehicles)


> Colin:
>
> Interesting! How much did the banks sidewinder cost to buy and install? Is
> it a simple bolt-on installation or does it require custom mods? Who did
the
> installation? WHat are the HP, Torque, and fuel milage figures, pulling
and
> not? Sounds like a great idea, and I want to get informed before I
consider
> it. I assume you have the automatic? Was the 6.2 avail with a stick?
>
> Dan Weeks
> Argosy 26
>
>
>
> > From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:03:12 -0700
> > To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Subject: [VAC]
> >
> > This vehicle has the 6.2 liter
> > diesel engine which I have since found out doesn't really have enough
umph
> > to pull our 59 Ambassador up the hills here in upstate NY let alone the
> > Rockies. It does however pull very well on the flats. As this body style
> > came out in the early 70's I was comfortable with the perceived "vintage
> > look".  I have recently installed a new Banks "Sidewinder" Turbo which
has
> > completely transformed the vehicle. It now has similar hp and torque
outputs
> > to current offerings, the great fuel economy got even better and the
engine
> > now runs cooler




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Message Number: 29
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:43:27 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Electrical woes

The other day when I wrote under the thread DC plug, I didn't know what a
can of worms I was getting into.  After I reported that my Toshiba TV/DVD
was running I let it go for an hour and then turned it off.  I could never
get it back on.

So, figuring it was low voltage I took my house battery for a check at
Wal-Mart.  It turned out to be pumping 13.4 when they checked it.  So I
started to get real interested in voltages and went out and bought a digital
multimeter at Radio Shack. (There's a great buy right now for $9.95 :)

Came back and measured the battery as it was connected to Univolt and it
read 13.84 volts.  Checked the cigarette lighter plug inside the Airstream
and it read 14.94 volts.  Then I checked the cigarette lighter plug in my
Toyota and it was 12.95 volts.  Even I could figure out that there was too
much DC voltage going to the Airstream plug.

So as an experiment I turned on everything in the house that was DC and then
checked the voltage out of the plug.  It was 13.12 volts.  Plugged in the
Toshiba TV/DVD and it came right on and continues as I write this note.

So I assume the Univolt is somehow responsible for increasing the voltage
over the house battery?!  Is there a voltage regulator that works in the
Airstream?  Would there be a voltage regulation advantage to a newer Univolt
or the converter with the Charge Wizard.

It seems that many of the new hi-tech appliances are VERY sensitive to
receiving the exact voltage they specify.  My RV-500 H20 heater has
electronic ignition.  It stopped working during the removal of my house
battery and now it won't come back on.  I suspect too high voltage.

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA



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Message Number: 30
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:55:12 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Replacement Taillights



I always wondered where Signal-Stat ended up.  Here is their current 
PDF catalog (318 pages)
http://www.truck-lite.com/tl/signalstat/catalog.pdf

Of interest is that they still make the original License Plate 
Light/Holder for the '60's Airstreams - even says for Airstream in the 
catalog (item 435W).  Also of note are acceptable replacements foe the 
Bargman #9 taillights of the '50's (#3612), and they are also good 
suppliers of replacement socket pigtails for those old crumbly ones.  
Many independent auto part and truck part shops can get them, I have a 
smaller place in town that orders them in for me.

What is sad to see missing is the old tiered style school bus lights 
that served as replacements for the big old Bargman 99's of the 1960's.

RJ
VintageAirstream.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: frances.mierzwa@xxxxxxxxxx.ge.com [mailto:frances.mierzwa@xxxxxxxxxx.ge.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:45 AM
> To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Subject: [VAC] Replacement Taillights
> 
> Folks,
> Don't know if anyone has been considering new tail lights, 
> but I've been
> having a helluva time given the location of the wiring hole 
> out of the rear
> skin panel. <snip>



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Message Number: 31
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 19:29:11 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tip for laying vinyl tile

I would think so. That stuff works great on floors that are attached to
houses and stay still. The plywood joints are always working when the
trailer is moving.

Armstrong makes a sheet called Solarian that is hard to install but was
desinged to float on the floor, not be glued except on the edges. It is
very thick and flexible and is supposed to stand up with a crumby f/f
subfloor. Have it in the kitchen, which moves more than most and gets
major grit. Still fine after 6 years.

Cork, ya know, will telegraph irregularities, but will not crack... (
nope no commission yet...)

Daisy

Dave Lowrey wrote:
> 
> Would this still be the case if I applied the Armstrong subfloor
> filler/leveler first?
> 
> Dave




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Message Number: 32
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 19:35:48 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Replacement Taillights

I just got two red LED lights that replace the lamps in my '73 signal
stats. At least that's the idea, haven't tested them yet.

Daisy

frances.mierzwa@xxxxxxxxxx.ge.com wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> Don't know if anyone has been considering new tail lights, but I've been
> having a helluva time given the location of the wiring hole out of the rear
> skin panel.  I could not readily install a flush mount design because the
> existing holes are right next to ribs, and further, both are to the "left"
> of each rib -- i.e., not centered to the rear.  In looking for lights, it's
> been tough getting a three wire (I'd like a wired ground) that have a flat
> back (bolt to skin) fit.
> 
> But I think I found something to be excited about.  I found a 7" (yes, a
> little larger than the old) LED light for $40.00/each from Doran
> manufacturing in Ohio.  This is a significantly better price than I've found
> for similar NAPA and other on-line sources.  It also comes with mounting
> gaskets, extra costs if sourced from Truck-lite (Signal-stat was acquired by
> them).
> 
> For anyone interested, you can contact Scott Comisar at 1-800-681-5424.
> 
> www.doranmfg.com
> 
> Fran
> 
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