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Today's Topics:
1. 1966 Window breakage prevention
2. A/C Cover?
3. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
4. Re: A/C Cover?
5. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
6. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
7. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
8. Places to stay in S.F.?
9. Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
10. Re:
11. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
12. Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
13. Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
14. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
15. Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage 1935
16. re flying cloud at Alberta Auction
17. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
18. Re: A/C Cover?
19. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
20. Replacement brake magnets
21. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
22. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
23. Re: re flying cloud at Alberta Auction
24. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
25. Re: Replacement brake magnets
26. Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
27. Furnace?
28. Re: Furnace?
29. Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage 1935
30. Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
31. Re: Membership
32. Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
33. Re: Andy 1966 Window breakage prevention
34. Re: Furnace?
35. Re: Membership
36. 62 dump valve fitting
37. Re: Membership
38. Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
39. Randy Unter
40. Electrical Mystery
41. Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
42. Re: Membership
43. Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
44. Re: Refinishing Bathroom Unit
45. '74 Overlander Interior parts available
46. Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
47. Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
48. Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
49. Re: Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
50. Electrical Mystery Part II
51. Re: Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
52. Re: Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
53. Re: re flying cloud at Alberta Auction
54. Re: Refinishing Bathroom Unit
55. Axles
56. Re: Refinishing Bathroom Unit
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Message Number: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:04:02 -0500
From: "Paul P. Waddell" <balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: 1966 Window breakage prevention
I'm now the proud owner of a 1966 Overlander. It has all the original
windows.
Has many of you know the 1966-68 windows are what I call "frame less".
What is
the best way to keep these windows from breaking, other than not opening
them.
I would think things like, not an over amount of pressure when closing,
locking
both sides down at the same time, not leaving them open when it's windy.
Any
and all help would be great! I really do not want to break them and then
say,
"If, I'd only known"
I will say, I think the window style on my 1970 23LY, is a far better
design.
Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC 1270
66 Overlander
70 23'LY single
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Message Number: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:33:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Wilcox <jdubikins@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: A/C Cover?
Hello all. I have another question related to the
external portion of the air conditioner on my 1966
Overlander. I have replaced the old plumbers putty
around the hole for the coolant lines. When I can get
some Vulkem from Airstreamdreams.com (it's now
backordered), I'll redo the seal with that.
In the meantime, does anyone have a nifty trick for
covering the opening over the upper fan when their
trailer is stored or just parked for a while? It
seems desirable to keep rain and eventually snow from
getting inside that opening as much as possible.
After 37 years, the weight of the compressor seems to
have made the roof a little saggy and flat in the A/C
area and less apt to drain cleanly down the sides.
TIA for any suggestions.
Joel
******
Joel Wilcox
1966 Overlander
Tow: 1987 GMC Vandura 2500
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Message Number: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:27:26 -0600
From: "Terry O'Neill" <woodfloor@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
Hi Paul
The curved windows in my 66 TradeWind are also intact so far. I tend to
use
the door screen and front and back windows for ventilation so the rare
curved windows are not exposed to risk. I figure if the flat front or
back
window breaks I will be able to have a replacement made easily. Soon I
will
put in a Fantastic Fan and eliminate the need to open windows (other
than a
slightly open front window to provide cross ventilation while the rear
fan
is running on exhaust).
We had a Fantastic Fan in our 60 Overlander that worked great.
I think a lot of the frameless windows must break just by hitting them
with
things or walking into them when open, they are not very visible when
open.
Take Care
Terry O'Neill
Calgary
66 Trade-Wind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul P. Waddell" <balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:04 PM
Subject: [VAC] 1966 Window breakage prevention
> I'm now the proud owner of a 1966 Overlander. It has all the original
> windows.
> Has many of you know the 1966-68 windows are what I call "frame less".
> What is
> the best way to keep these windows from breaking, other than not opening
> them.
> I would think things like, not an over amount of pressure when closing,
> locking
> both sides down at the same time, not leaving them open when it's windy.
> Any
> and all help would be great! I really do not want to break them and then
> say,
> "If, I'd only known"
>
> I will say, I think the window style on my 1970 23LY, is a far better
> design.
>
>
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC 1270
> 66 Overlander
> 70 23'LY single
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:43:03 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: A/C Cover?
Vulkem 116 is often available in home centers, including Home Depot,
Menards, and Lowe's.
Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.
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Message Number: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:17:27 -0500
From: "John R. Kleven" <jrkleven@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
Paul,
The single most satisfying thing you can do is to use those windows as
they
were designed to be, that is, used. Not opening them is not the answer,
but
your precautions are right on as is common sense. If they break, they
break, and you will join the majority. Even worse is not allowing
strangers
or children to "touch something" for fear of them breaking them, unless
you
have a museum piece. How boring and stressful would that be? Many
restorers
will disagree but I feel if you use something regularly, it will pay you
back with reliability. Does your holding tank leak like mine? :-)
Randy
> I'm now the proud owner of a 1966 Overlander. It has all the original
> windows.
> Has many of you know the 1966-68 windows are what I call "frame less".
> What is
> the best way to keep these windows from breaking, other than not opening
> them.
> I would think things like, not an over amount of pressure when closing,
> locking
> both sides down at the same time, not leaving them open when it's windy.
> Any
> and all help would be great! I really do not want to break them and then
> say,
> "If, I'd only known"
>
> I will say, I think the window style on my 1970 23LY, is a far better
> design.
>
>
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC 1270
> 66 Overlander
> 70 23'LY single
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:23:24 -0600
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
Paul,
I have babied our 1966 Overlander windows for nine years...so far all
except
the one by the door are in tact. I have been working on a design for a
"cover window" made from smoked Plexiglas as a protective window while
traveling. We have always opened them just 3 to 4 inches. I am most
concerned for the cranking device and window mount though. They are
beautiful but oh what a nuisance. I once saw a 65 with plex
replacements,
they did not conform to the curvature very well and were affected by hot
and
cold temperatures too much.
Apparently the former owner locked himself out so rather than figuring
out
another way to get in he BROKE the small curved window by the door! It
gives me a headache to think of it!
All the best of lock with yours!
GAS
66 Overlander
62 Globe Trotter (straight windows!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul P. Waddell" <balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:04 PM
Subject: [VAC] 1966 Window breakage prevention
> I'm now the proud owner of a 1966 Overlander. It has all the original
> windows.
> Has many of you know the 1966-68 windows are what I call "frame less".
> What is
> the best way to keep these windows from breaking, other than not opening
> them.
> I would think things like, not an over amount of pressure when closing,
> locking
> both sides down at the same time, not leaving them open when it's windy.
> Any
> and all help would be great! I really do not want to break them and then
> say,
> "If, I'd only known"
>
> I will say, I think the window style on my 1970 23LY, is a far better
> design.
>
>
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC 1270
> 66 Overlander
> 70 23'LY single
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:39:26 -0400
From: "goldens510@xxxxxxxxxx.net" <goldens510@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
Paul & Terry,
I sure envy you your 100 percent glass windows. One obvious but
elegant suggestion I have heard, Paul, is to attach a brightly-colored
flag or ribbon to the windows when they're open. My unlucky
experience also suggests, keep the trailer somewhere safe! I lost a
curved-glass window last week in a would-be break-in, and one in July
to a forklift accident at the storage yard. I'd rather someone had
stolen
my car!
Here's hoping I'm the only one with such bad luck, or such bad
selection of storage location!
Regards,
Amanda
'68 Safari
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Message Number: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:25:15 -0700
From: Rivka <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Places to stay in S.F.?
Hello all, i was wondering if anyone on this list had recomendations
for a park or something to stay in while im visiting the bay area
(San Francisco)? I know the area resonably well and will be visiting
freinds for about the last ten days of Oct. Looking for a place to
park and hook up my 74 Overlander.
thanks
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& the new girl, a '74 Airstream Overlander
"I never panic when I get lost. I just change where I want to go. "
-Rita Rudner
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Message Number: 9
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:57:01 -0700
From: "Dave Huffman" <huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
Now that I know a bit more about Univolts (I guess I don't have one),
let's
try one I've brought up before... Mounting a Sewer Hose Tube under the
chassis.
I'd like to use the rear bumper storage for the likes of Spring Bar
storage when I unhook the tow car. I got some advice on this earlier
this
summer, but that unfortunately resides on another computer. Camping
World
has a kit up to about 5' length, but I eyeballed my Caravel width at more
like 8' +.
Seems like a 5 or 6" PVC tube can be cut to length, capped at each
end
(removable of course), and strapped? to the frame under the trailer at
each
end of the tube.
Any suggestions? Looks a bit roomier behind the wheels than in
front of
them.
Huff
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Message Number: 10
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:00:01 -0700
From: "Dave Huffman" <huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re:
Message Number: 12
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:51:18 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: insulation & formaldehyde
Dave, can you point me in the direction of this guy ? My home has two
walls with the stuff, no problems except if I sell it. Concievably,
there might be a problem if you put it in an AS and go to sell it ???
Daisy
---------------------------------------------------------
AIR the researcher was from Univ. of Oregon. When?... maybe 4 years ago
on
the re-measuring. Don't recall whether I read this from the
medical-allergy
standpoint or general news release.
Huff
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Message Number: 11
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:16:41 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
on 09/23/02 11:04 PM, balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu wrote:
> I'm now the proud owner of a 1966 Overlander. It has all the original
> windows.
> Has many of you know the 1966-68 windows are what I call "frame less".
> What is
> the best way to keep these windows from breaking, other than not
> opening them.
> I would think things like, not an over amount of pressure when closing,
> locking both sides down at the same time, not leaving them open when
> it's
> windy. Any and all help would be great! I really do not want to break
> them and
> then say, "If, I'd only known"
>
> Paul Waddell WBCCI/VAC 1270 66 Overlander 70 23'LY single
>
Hi Paul,
Congratulations on the 1966 Overlander. Regardless of the windows, that
was
a good year for Airstreams. You asked about keeping the windows from
breaking. We have a 1967 Safari with the same "frame less" windows. Here
are
a few additional caveats for your list.
- We NEVER walk away from the trailer with any of the side windows open.
Maybe I'm sticky about being attentive to who comes near our side
windows,
but that's the way it is.
- We attach two clothes pins with a strip of surveyor's ribbon hooked
under
the spring - to each window when they're open. Some folks get really
fancy
with spiraling multicolored streamers.
- We NEVER leave either side window open when the awning is being raised
or
lowered. The clearance of the front awning arm to our front side window
when
it's open - is inches at best.
- We NEVER open a side window to its widest point. That was learned
after
having two elbow mechanisms break. They are made out of soft pot metal.
Even
though broken, the mechanism allowed the window to be closed tightly or
opened partially. Nevertheless, it was another thing to replace and
another
consideration to keep in mind each time the window was opened a little.
Paul, if you don't already have a couple of spare elbows, put them on
your
"to buy" list. They cost almost $15 new (made of strong aluminum), but
we've found them at the WBCCI International Convention Flea Market for $2
each (same old pot metal). The pot metal ones are better than broken
ones.
As an aside, the International Convention flea market has been my richest
source over the years - for small vintage Airstream parts, i.e. catches
for
cupboard doors ($0.10 each) and other memorabilia, i.e. a coffee cup
with a
man on a bicycle towing a small Airstream ($0.50 cents).
The coffee mug was tooooo goooood to pass up. I'd have paid $20 or more
for
that puppy. The man on the mug could have been me - ever since I did the
same thing at the Dayton, Ohio International Convention. There were six
of
us who had the opportunity to get on the bicycle and tow the trailer. The
picture of me actually on the bike towing the Airstream is framed and has
more sentimental value than most non-Airstreamers would ever consider
reasonable.
Keep us posted occasionally. Tell us all of us about your progress, what
you're doing, how it's coming and what's next. Fresh perspectives can
lead
to new learning about any aspect of restoration. Each of us on the VAC
list
is still interested in that thread.
Maybe a couple of these caveats will save a side window,
Terry
mailto:tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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Message Number: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 04:42:06 -0700
From: dave <millbrae@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
Hi Rivka,
There is a trailer park in Pacifica and there are 2-3 in Redwood City.
The
only one I know the name of is Trailer-Villa 3401 E. Bayshore Road
650-366-7880. You shouldn't have trouble getting into one of the trailer
parks in Redwood City, for a few day they didn't have a problem, but for
semi-permanent monthly parking one of the would allow an Airstream if it
was older than 10 years.
There are several Wal-Mart's in the area Union City, San Leandro,
Pittsburg, Vallejo, Livermore, San Jose and one in Mountain View
dave
At 10:25 PM 9/23/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> Hello all, i was wondering if anyone on this list had recomendations
> for a
> park or something to stay in while im visiting the bay area (San
> Francisco)? I know the area resonably well and will be visiting freinds
> for about the last ten days of Oct. Looking for a place to park and
> hook
> up my 74 Overlander.
>
> thanks
>
> --
> Rivka and Her Girls
> "Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
> & the new girl, a '74 Airstream Overlander
>
> "I never panic when I get lost. I just change where I want to go. "
> -Rita Rudner
>
>
>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:46:41 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
Dave, that's a fairly common owner after market addition. I've done the
same
think on the two Airstreams I've owned prior to this one. I use the Sewer
Solution with the Tradewind and carry a "slinky stinky" hose still in the
box for emergencies.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Huffman" <huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:57
Subject: [VAC] Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
> Now that I know a bit more about Univolts (I guess I don't have one),
let's
> try one I've brought up before... Mounting a Sewer Hose Tube under the
> chassis.
> I'd like to use the rear bumper storage for the likes of Spring Bar
> storage when I unhook the tow car. I got some advice on this earlier
> this
> summer, but that unfortunately resides on another computer. Camping
> World
> has a kit up to about 5' length, but I eyeballed my Caravel width at
> more
> like 8' +.
> Seems like a 5 or 6" PVC tube can be cut to length, capped at each
> end
> (removable of course), and strapped? to the frame under the trailer at
each
> end of the tube.
> Any suggestions? Looks a bit roomier behind the wheels than in
> front
of
> them.
>
> Huff
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Message Number: 14
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Wilcox <jdubikins@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
--- Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Congratulations on the 1966 Overlander. Regardless
> of the windows, that was
> a good year for Airstreams.
I had noticed a number of other '66 Overlander owners
on list. I hope you're right, Terry. Mine has taken
its beatings over the years, but it is still a great
pull.
I don't worry about the windows too much anymore. On
starboard, they crank well because they are
replacement plexiglass. On port I still have a bit of
glass but no working cranks.
Like I said, nothing to worry about. :-(
Joel
******
Joel Wilcox
1966 Overlander
Tow: 1987 GMC Vandura 2500
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Message Number: 15
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:46:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage 1935
I'm wondering if anyone knows what Dr. Holman used on
his 1935?
reason I ask is because it looked like an alimunum
tube and it had really cool ends on it.
Toby
--- James Greene <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> Dave, that's a fairly common owner after market
> addition. I've done the same
> think on the two Airstreams I've owned prior to this
> one. I use the Sewer
> Solution with the Tradewind and carry a "slinky
> stinky" hose still in the
> box for emergencies.
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Huffman" <huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList"
> <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:57
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
>
>
>> Now that I know a bit more about Univolts (I guess
> I don't have one),
> let's
>> try one I've brought up before... Mounting a
> Sewer Hose Tube under the
>> chassis.
>> I'd like to use the rear bumper storage for
> the likes of Spring Bar
>> storage when I unhook the tow car. I got some
> advice on this earlier this
>> summer, but that unfortunately resides on another
> computer. Camping World
>> has a kit up to about 5' length, but I eyeballed
> my Caravel width at more
>> like 8' +.
>> Seems like a 5 or 6" PVC tube can be cut to
> length, capped at each end
>> (removable of course), and strapped? to the frame
> under the trailer at
> each
>> end of the tube.
>> Any suggestions? Looks a bit roomier behind
> the wheels than in front
> of
>> them.
>>
>> Huff
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 16
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:48:15 -0700
From: "C. Hale" <chale@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: re flying cloud at Alberta Auction
Hi all,
Just for your information:
I spoke to the folks at the auction centre. The 55 Flying Cloud sold for
$32,000 Cdn.
That's about $21,000 US.
Cindy
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Message Number: 17
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:11:45 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
Paul.
You can add the metal frames around the windows as Airstream did in 1968,
along with having soft gaskets for the glass to seat against. Hardened
rubber
acts as an abrasive and can scratch the tempered glass, If that happens,
the
glass is gone. That's one of the reasons that a 66-67 window will blow in
transit. The addition of the moldings reduced that considerably.
We have those moldings.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 18
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:18:01 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: A/C Cover?
Joel. Wrong kind of Vulkem to seal that hole, as per the Airstream
factory.
The proper one is 616/636, in spite of what some may say, again as per
Airstream factories assembly line usage. We will have a photo of that
shortly
on our web site.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 19
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Wilcox <jdubikins@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
--- Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> Hardened rubber
> acts as an abrasive and can scratch the tempered
> glass, If that happens, the
> glass is gone.
Andy,
My rubber is so bad it is alligatored and grows green
stuff. Is the rubber exotic Airstream stuff, or is it
a hardware store item?
Joel
******
Joel Wilcox
1966 Overlander
Tow: 1987 GMC Vandura 2500
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Message Number: 20
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:39:26 -0400
From: frances.mierzwa@xxxxxxxxxx.ge.com
Subject: Replacement brake magnets
Hi Kids,
Fran here again with the life-long AS restoration project again. One
of my
friends told me the moment turn the wrench for the last time and finish
everything, I will die and it will become my aluminum casket. Funny and
probably true ...
Anyway, got to replacing at least one old 12 x 2 magnet yesterday. And
in
not having a ton of familiarity with them I need your help.
I assumed (I know, I know...) that they are Hayes 12 x 2 simply from
catalog
pictures and measurements. So I ordered a couple new magnets (one of
driver
side VERY wore down) from a trailer company. The magnets appear
aftermarket, and dimensionally are the same. The wires, however, between
what was on the old (original?) magnets and the new are alarmingly
different. Most noticeably, the new wires are much smaller in
diameter. I
can't tell gage difference, but the old ones had dedicated ring
terminals of
a very beefy nature. I would think that there would be some serious
amperage on those magnets.
So do you think the new magnets may still be okay? All opinions welcome.
Stay tuned: Questions on brake adjustment (or "why did the magnets rub so
badly in the first place")
Fran
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Message Number: 21
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:43:50 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
To all VAC members.
Plexiglass is not intended for exterior use. The UV from the sun will
shortly
cause it to crack and craze, but it's cheap and readily available.
After considerable research, we came up with a plastic material called
"ACRYLITE."
Without a metal frame, it will, when exposed to the sun for a period of
time,
take on the contour of the sides.
An improvement was developed and applied to this same material, that now
can
be scrubbed with steel wool, and not be scratched. It's the same chemical
that is used on plastic eyeglass lenses.
The new name for this material is called "Acrylite AR-2," and is
available in
"clear' only. It's not cheap, but it does perform very well. We have sold
over 1000 of them, without a single problem. You can also add to it's
strength by installing stainless steel moldings on the edges as
Airstream did
in 1968, and are now available as well.
We have sold over 1000 of them, without a single problem.
Unfortunately, you must buy a 4 x 8 sheet, or find someone that has the
window replacements cut to size.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 22
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:48:33 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
Andy,
What about the 1969 windows that have the frame. The glass slips into a
gasket of sorts and the window with 'gaskety' is inserted into the metal
frame.
Question: do you carry those 'gaskets' I'm referring to here for lack
of a
better word?
Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303
From: <Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAC] Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
> Paul.
> You can add the metal frames around the windows as Airstream did in
> 1968,
> along with having soft gaskets for the glass to seat against. Hardened
rubber
> acts as an abrasive and can scratch the tempered glass, If that happens,
the
> glass is gone. That's one of the reasons that a 66-67 window will blow
> in
> transit. The addition of the moldings reduced that considerably.
> We have those moldings.
>
> Andy
> inlandrv.com
> airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 23
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:58:41 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: re flying cloud at Alberta Auction
Thanks, Cindy. That answers the question I had about what constitutes an
unreasonable offer.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Hale" <chale@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:48
Subject: [VAC] re flying cloud at Alberta Auction
> Hi all,
> Just for your information:
> I spoke to the folks at the auction centre. The 55 Flying Cloud sold
> for
> $32,000 Cdn.
> That's about $21,000 US.
> Cindy
>
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Message Number: 24
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:19:41 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
Joel. The window gasket from 1966 to 1996 comes from Airstream.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 25
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:23:41 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Replacement brake magnets
Fran. Magnets should be replaced in pairs, only. If you do not, you quite
well will cause a brake pull.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 26
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:28:39 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: 1966 Window breakage prevention
Tom. That gasket material, while used by Airstream when they fabricate
the
windows, is not available.
If you take the frame apart, more than likely you will never get it to
be as
rigid as it originally was. That in turn causes a poor fit, and, a water
leak.
Replacement windows from 69 on up, come with the sash included. You
cannot
buy just the glass.
Replacing the glass with "plexiglass" is a very short term solution in
that
the UV from the sun will crack and craze the plastic.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 27
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:35:19 -0700
From: Jeffrey Engle <bedheads@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Furnace?
Here's another interesting thing...
Our Suburban furnace (model: NT 30 SP) is doing something rather
interesting, IF..connected to the twin tanks, the blower fan likes to,
after the trailer reaches thermostat setting/ temperature, sporadically
turn off and back on then back off (Sometimes lasting 4 or 5 times) with
a couple of seconds in between...This doesn't seem to bother the
"heating" of the trailer or any other function of the furnace.
Now, here's what'll throw you for a loop,... When the trailer is
hooked to a big tank (one you rent) with it's own regulator, the problem
goes away?, I know what your thinking...regulator? bought a new fisher,
still does it.... The furnace is probably 6 years old or so, the only
thing I don't have papers on...maybe older. Help?
Thanks, Jeff & Daile
77 Sovereign
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Message Number: 28
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:36:49 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Furnace?
Sounds like a flaky ground connection to me.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Engle" <bedheads@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:35
Subject: [VAC] Furnace?
> Here's another interesting thing...
> Our Suburban furnace (model: NT 30 SP) is doing something rather
> interesting, IF..connected to the twin tanks, the blower fan likes to,
> after the trailer reaches thermostat setting/ temperature, sporadically
> turn off and back on then back off (Sometimes lasting 4 or 5 times) with
> a couple of seconds in between...This doesn't seem to bother the
> "heating" of the trailer or any other function of the furnace.
> Now, here's what'll throw you for a loop,... When the trailer is
> hooked to a big tank (one you rent) with it's own regulator, the problem
> goes away?, I know what your thinking...regulator? bought a new fisher,
> still does it.... The furnace is probably 6 years old or so, the only
> thing I don't have papers on...maybe older. Help?
>
> Thanks, Jeff & Daile
> 77 Sovereign
>
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Message Number: 29
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:44:01 -0600
From: "Tuna" <rctowns@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage 1935
My SOB RV has a sewerhose tube made of 4" PVC pipe, ~ 7' long, with a
threaded sewer line 'plug' end on each end... The RV has a grey water
tank
and valve on the curbside, and a blackwater tank and valve on the
streetside... the hose can be drawn out of either side, since it's
mounted
transversely to the frame a foot or two behind the rear wheels.
Tuna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Toby Folwick" <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: [VAC] Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage 1935
> I'm wondering if anyone knows what Dr. Holman used on
> his 1935?
>
> reason I ask is because it looked like an alimunum
> tube and it had really cool ends on it.
>
> Toby
>
> --- James Greene <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
>> Dave, that's a fairly common owner after market
>> addition. I've done the same
>> think on the two Airstreams I've owned prior to this
>> one. I use the Sewer
>> Solution with the Tradewind and carry a "slinky
>> stinky" hose still in the
>> box for emergencies.
>>
>> Jim Greene
>> ' 68 Tradewind
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave Huffman" <huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList"
>> <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:57
>> Subject: [VAC] Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
>>
>>
>>> Now that I know a bit more about Univolts (I guess
>> I don't have one),
>> let's
>>> try one I've brought up before... Mounting a
>> Sewer Hose Tube under the
>>> chassis.
>>> I'd like to use the rear bumper storage for
>> the likes of Spring Bar
>>> storage when I unhook the tow car. I got some
>> advice on this earlier this
>>> summer, but that unfortunately resides on another
>> computer. Camping World
>>> has a kit up to about 5' length, but I eyeballed
>> my Caravel width at more
>>> like 8' +.
>>> Seems like a 5 or 6" PVC tube can be cut to
>> length, capped at each end
>>> (removable of course), and strapped? to the frame
>> under the trailer at
>> each
>>> end of the tube.
>>> Any suggestions? Looks a bit roomier behind
>> the wheels than in front
>> of
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Huff
>>
>>
>>
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Message Number: 30
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:56:21 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
on 09/24/02 1:57 AM, huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> Seems like a 5 or 6" PVC tube can be cut to length, capped at each end
> (removable of course), and strapped? to the frame under the trailer at
> each
> end of the tube. Any suggestions? Looks a bit roomier behind the
> wheels than
> in front of them.
Huff,
My sentiments exactly and that's what I did. The local True Value
hardware
store had brackets (adjustable circular aluminum strap type things) for
mounting the PVC tube. I chose to tie them into the frame instead of the
belly pan.
Plus, I used a tap and die to connect them with threaded fittings. That
was
probably overkill, but I had all the parts and and must have been feeling
particularly feisty that day.
Terry
mailto:tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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Message Number: 31
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:34:45 +0000
From: "Doug Green" <doug_sue@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Membership
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Message Number: 32
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:09:43 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
Dave wrote:
> You shouldn't have trouble getting into one of the trailer
> parks in Redwood City, for a few day they didn't have a problem, but for
> semi-permanent monthly parking one of the would allow an Airstream if
> it
> was older than 10 years.
This is the same discrimination that I have seen in San Diego. It is
ironic
that Hollywood keeps seeking out vintage Airstream coaches for
commercials
and shows while trailer parks think of these same Airstreams as less than
desirable. Go figure! Seems like there is some PR to be done with park
owners and managers.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 33
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:47:20 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Andy 1966 Window breakage prevention
> Tom. That gasket material, while used by Airstream when they fabricate
> the
> windows, is not available.
>
> Andy
Thanks for your response, Andy.
I have exactly this situation with one of our side windows on the
curbside
where the kitchen sink is located on our 1969 Airstream International
with
twin beds. Is this window *and* frame readily available with this new
type
of "plastic glass" you mentioned earlier?
This particular window "shattered" for one reason or another. Maybe it
was
vandalism, a rock or pebble from a weed eater, whatever. Bottom line is
that it was shattered.
I did try and make do with a piece of Lexan with the old gasket installed
into the window frame. As you can guess the complex curve of the window
frame was not a very good fit. Have you ever tried to use a heat gun or
something like that to help the plastic material conform to the fit of
the
window frame before? That was going to be my next step in trying to
find a
way around or through this situation.
I was not aware that plastic or Lexan in my case would expand and shrink
to
any large degree. I do think that Lexan is tougher than Plexi-glass
though
and I say that is right if I remember my research correctly.
The very reason I tried this fix myself, tearing down the window frame,
Lexan material, etc., was because the window and frame I ordered from the
Airstream factory through an Airstream dealer was so shabbily made I was
not
going to accept such poor workmanship. It really galled me that this
window
came to me from the factory with aluminum shavings stuck inside the paper
covering the window, rivet holes that were plugged due to mis-drilling,
rivets installed into holes that actually bent the shaft of the rivet in
two
directions and more.
What happend to me? Did I get a window from a worker who didn't give a
hoot
and this one slipped by "inspection"? Maybe I got one that was cast
aside
and never should have been shipped? I do know that whatever the reason I
ended up very disgusted with the final product that cost me well more
than
$100 but less than $200 if my memory is correct.
Tom
WBCCI 5303
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Message Number: 34
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:32:35 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Furnace?
Jeff and Daile. The problem could be what "LPG" your using. You could
have a
different chemical composition in the large tank, from standard LPG in
that
it may not be burning as hot as the twin tank supply, of LPG. A mix of
Butane
and Propane will not burn as hot.
The fan cycling simply says that the combustion chamber is still hot
enough
to make the "fan" switch engage. A new fan switch would solve that
problem.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 35
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:33:28 -0400
From: "Thomas LaVergne" <tlavergne@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Membership
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Green
It was great meeting some of the people whose name I see on this list
at
the OBX Rally in August. Just a novice.
Sue Green
WBCCI 5761 '55 Safari
Sue,
Are you and Doug the couple that my wife and I met at Camp Hatteras in
July
while camping in our 1978 Ambassador?
Thomas LaVergne #8848
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Message Number: 36
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:05:15 -0500
From: "J.Evans Woodward III" <broev@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: 62 dump valve fitting
I've rebuilt the brass dump valve on my 63 and now I can't find a hose
fitting that will connect to it.
What type do I need? Are they still available?
Thanks,
Evans
62 Sovereign
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Message Number: 37
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:14:11 -0400
From: Dick Kenan <as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Membership
At 06:34 PM 9/24/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> [snip]When you refer to "Friend" is that the same thing as the person
> who
> subscribes to the Vintage Advantage but doesn't own an Airstream or
> isn't
> a member of the WBCCI?[snip]
Sue, I belong to WBCCI but am a "Friend" in VAC because I don't own a
*vintage* Airstream. Basically, a friend is someone who subscribes to
the
Vintage Advantage but does not satisfy one (or more) the other
requirements
for full VAC membership.
- Dick
(5368)
"God Himself, sir, does not propose to judge a man until his life is
over.
Why should you and I?"
-Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)
---------------------------------------
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
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Message Number: 38
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:38:59 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
----- Original Message -----
> Dave wrote:
> would not allow an Airstream if it was older than 10 >years.
. .
This comes up from time to time at other RV parks. I have a 1976 31'
Sovereign, that I must say looks pretty good inside and out. So now when
making reservations or arriving at the RV Park if they ask me about my
trailer and the year, I say it is a 1996 Airstream Anniversary model. I
have
never had anyone say anything else.
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Message Number: 39
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:34:42 -0000
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Randy Unter
Randy, please contact me offlist.
Thanks,
Scott
s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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Message Number: 40
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:49:05 -0800
From: "Yosef Rosen" <yos@l3i.com>
Subject: Electrical Mystery
Hi All-
My '66 20' Overlander has me stumped with its recent electrical problem.
Keven Allen was kind enough to throw me some ideas in response to my
first
posting about this, but now that I've monkeyed around with it I have
more
clues to throw at the whole brilliant lot of you.
It's clear that there is a short in the system that I cannot trace. One
of
the automatically resetting breakers (one of three in the battery
compartment) will "tick-tock" when we plug into shore power.
Shore power doesn't work, the battery will not charge and the entire
system
seems to be inoperative.
Beyond any suggestions, does anyone know where I can find a decent
schematic
diagram (the one in the owners manual is overly simplistic and doesn't
tell
the whole story.)
At your mercy,
Yosef
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Message Number: 41
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:43:03 -0000
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
Either option will work well. We have both the original dealer option
hose
carriers and modern ones from Camping world on the bottom of ours. They
are
only attached to the belly skin, not the frame a foot or so in front of
the
tires. They have stayed put just fine over many a year and mile.
Wouldn't of
gotten the newer ones, but they changed hose sizes somewhere between now
and
1960 and the new ones just will not fit.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Huffman" <huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 5:57 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Under Chassis Sewer Hose Storage
.....Camping World
> has a kit up to about 5' length, but I eyeballed my Caravel width at
> more
> like 8' +.
> Seems like a 5 or 6" PVC tube can be cut to length, capped at each
> end
> (removable of course), and strapped? to the frame under the trailer at
each
> end of the tube.
> Any suggestions? Looks a bit roomier behind the wheels than in
> front
of
> them.
>
> Huff
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Message Number: 42
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:06:00 -0000
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Membership
Sue,
Don't worry about asking goofy questions - at one time or another we
all
ask a goofy one!
As for insurance. It is liability insurance. It is good for when you
are
attending a rally. I believe that it protects the club, and will also
cover damages to the campground and cover repairs to a member's unit
when being parked by one of the parkers in case of an oops! If you park
yourself there is no coverage, but if an official parker guides you
into
your space you are covered.
As for the categories of "membership" yes, a friend is someone who is
interested in vintage airstreams, but is not a member of the WBCCI. It
is basically a subscription to the newsletter. Up until recently it
also
gained access to a members only section of the VAC's website. An
associate member is someone who belongs to WBCCI, but has a
trailer/motorhome that is too new to be considered vintage. A member is
one who owns a vintage Airstream product and is a member of WBCCI.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Green
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Membership
I have been a member of WBCCI and the Vintage Club for a year, I stay
almost totally confused on some of the topics I read and I am the one
who also ask goofy questions. Now I am very confused - what is the
insurance for? Didn't even know membership to WBCCI had this
included.
When you refer to "Friend" is that the same thing as the person who
subscribes to the Vintage Advantage but doesn't own an Airstream or
isn't a member of the WBCCI? And the discussion about membership I
must
have missed something on the VAC List - what happened? It was great
meeting some of the people whose name I see on this list at the OBX
Rally in August. Just a novice.
Sue Green
WBCCI 5761 '55 Safari
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Message Number: 43
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:17:33 -0700
From: Rivka <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
So seeing as that im both a gluten for punishment as are most of us,
and if i have to go to bed looking at beige many more nights i might
scream, heres the challenge:
I want bare aluminum walls.
do i
1. take all my inside panels off while i have my interior stripped,
and try to strip them in someway? I have the vinyl? wallpaper on them
now is this possible and will the aluminum every look good?
or
2. Use the pieces to cut new aluminum to go back in? will i every get
it to fit?
which way do you all think is easier in the long run, cost vs time?
this is probably going to be my undoing!
BTW i finally settled on her name "Belladonna" seems only fitting
after reading the following quote: Belladonna
In Italian, a beautiful lady; in English, a deadly poison. A striking
example of the essential identity of the two tongues.
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
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Message Number: 44
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:27:48 -0700
From: Rivka <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Refinishing Bathroom Unit
Kevin did you get this done yet? and if so how was the experience and
the out come, i going on a beige eradication mission in my '74
Overlander and keep staring at the bath and the front ceiling console
as the tricky parts.
let me know.
Or anyone else that has changed the color of there plastics.
>
> My trailer is scheduled to have its bath refinished in September in a
> color that they call dove gray. I am confident based upon speaking with
> others who have had household fiberglass fixtures refinished by this
> contractor that my Airstream will turn out beautifully.
>
> Good luck with your project!
>
> Kevin D. Allen
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
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Message Number: 45
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:42:12 -0700
From: Rivka <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: '74 Overlander Interior parts available
Just letting you all know that I'm about to mostly gut my '74
Overlander so she & I can start taking the first steps to becoming my
dream home. So i will have about everything from her inside for sale,
gift or trade depending. I'm going to try to take everything out
carefully, but no promises. If i knew i was taking something out for
someone I'm sure it would come out with extra attention. She is in
reasonable shape, some of it is great, just wrong layout & not what i
dream of living in FT.
Let me know, I will also post this in the classifieds in a week or
two, but i thought i would give you all first dibs.
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador (Blissfully Boondocked)
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander (City Girl About to Play
Dress Up)
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Message Number: 46
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:29:52 -0700
From: Rivka <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
you know i was just thinking the same thing, If you have any model
post 69, to the untrained eye, you cant tell much about the age if
it's in good shape, and since i dont really think there is any harm
in this type if fooling someone i might just run with it.
These type of rules are obvisously ment to keep rusty , broken down
eyesores away, and the parks just dont feel the urge to start having
to judge you stream when it comes in as to wether its in fine vintage
shape or not.
>> Dave wrote:
>> would not allow an Airstream if it was older than 10 >years.
> .
> This comes up from time to time at other RV parks. I have a 1976 31'
> Sovereign, that I must say looks pretty good inside and out. So now when
> making reservations or arriving at the RV Park if they ask me about my
> trailer and the year, I say it is a 1996 Airstream Anniversary model. I
> have
> never had anyone say anything else.
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
Belladonna-
In Italian, a beautiful lady; in English, a deadly poison.
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Message Number: 47
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:00:15 -0600
From: "Tuna" <rctowns@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
At the south end of Half Moon Bay, along the Pacific Coast Highway, there
is/was a mobile home park, and next door, a long-term trailer/rv park
(closer to the ocean)... i 'full-timed' in that trailer/rv park for a
couple
of years ('93-'94) with no problem at all - a great place, and the MH
park
up the road had a gated public-storage place. I believe it was called
'Pelican Point' or 'Pelican Cove'... Since that time, the HMB Lodge has
expanded, and i believe they've built a golf course along in there... i
don't know if the trailer park is still there. Worth a shot - it was the
nicest/least expensive way to live near SF (30 minute commute) that i'd
ever
found...
P.S.- "Papa George's" is a great restaurant - right there, just north of
the
HMB Lodge - with a great wine cellar, and a cream of roasted garlic soup
that is insanely good.
Tuna
----- Original Message -----
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:09 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
> Dave wrote:
>> You shouldn't have trouble getting into one of the trailer
>> parks in Redwood City, for a few day they didn't have a problem, but
>> for
>> semi-permanent monthly parking one of the would allow an Airstream if
it
>> was older than 10 years.
>
> This is the same discrimination that I have seen in San Diego. It is
ironic
> that Hollywood keeps seeking out vintage Airstream coaches for
> commercials
> and shows while trailer parks think of these same Airstreams as less
> than
> desirable. Go figure! Seems like there is some PR to be done with
> park
> owners and managers.
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari
> Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA
>
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Message Number: 48
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:17:57 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Places to stay in S.F.?
http://www.sanfranciscorvpark.com/
GQ '67 Safari
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Message Number: 49
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:22:50 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
Stripping vinyl off '74 wallsRivka,
To answer your questions:
1. No, Yes, Yes
2. NO, NO
Easiest? 3M makes an adhesive remover for contact cement. What you
want to do *is* possible but it would be a real PITA to do. But, since
you are set on doing this take your time and you will enjoy the
results.
You do realilze you are somewhat destroying the "vintage value" of
this
Airstream, right? I'm sure you thought of that otherwise you wouldn't
have asked. Right?
Tom
WBCCI 5303
From: Rivka
Subject: [VAC] Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
I want bare aluminum walls.
do i
1. take all my inside panels off while i have my interior stripped,
and try to strip them in someway? I have the vinyl? wallpaper on them
now is this possible and will the aluminum every look good?
or
2. Use the pieces to cut new aluminum to go back in? will i every get
it to fit?
which way do you all think is easier in the long run, cost vs time?
this is probably going to be my undoing!
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
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Message Number: 50
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:34:34 -0800
From: "Yosef Rosen" <yos@l3i.com>
Subject: Electrical Mystery Part II
Hi again! I subscribe to the digest form of the VAC List, so my
apologies to anyone who already responded with a solution to my earlier
e-mail earlier today regarding this problem, but here's an update on my
electrical mystery with some more info:
I measured around with a multimeter and here's what I saw:
Initially, I measured 10.75 VDC from the uncharged disconnected battery
(it had been disconnected for a while). When I reconnected the battery
to the system the battery voltage went to zero. All three low-voltage
circuits seemed to be drawing power or shorted so I disconnected all the
low-voltage circuits and tested them individually. After the Univolt was
powered up and with just the battery drawing charge current, main DC
voltage rose to about 11.5 VDC.
I reconnected the leads and tested each low-voltage circuit one at a
time. Circuit A, the bottom auto-resetting-breaker drew about 1 amp
(even though all the appliances and lights were off) Circuit B (the
middle one according to the manual schematic) drew about 3.5 Amps.
Circuit C was off the charts (my multimeter works to 10A).
I thought that maybe I just had a bad battery, but then why wouldn't it
work using shore power?.worse yet, is my Univolt fried?
Thanks again,
Yosef
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Message Number: 51
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:28:46 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
Stripping vinyl off '74 wallsI don't know how well the vinyl is
attached
to the inner skin on a ' 74 Airstream but on a ' 68 model it's on to
stay. I suspect it would be faster to take off the inner panels and
start over. It might work to turn the panels over and reattach "wrong
side out." Polishing the outside skin is as much polishing as I want to
do.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: Rivka
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 13:17
Subject: [VAC] Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
So seeing as that im both a gluten for punishment as are most of us,
and if i have to go to bed looking at beige many more nights i might
scream, heres the challenge:
I want bare aluminum walls.
do i
1. take all my inside panels off while i have my interior stripped,
and try to strip them in someway? I have the vinyl? wallpaper on them
now is this possible and will the aluminum every look good?
or
2. Use the pieces to cut new aluminum to go back in? will i every get
it to fit?
which way do you all think is easier in the long run, cost vs time?
this is probably going to be my undoing!
BTW i finally settled on her name "Belladonna" seems only fitting
after reading the following quote: Belladonna
In Italian, a beautiful lady; in English, a deadly poison. A striking
example of the essential identity of the two tongues.
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
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Message Number: 52
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:48:14 -0700
From: Rivka <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Stripping vinyl off '74 walls
Are you saying i should do it while the walls are still on? it seems
like that would be hard and messy, but i'll look into it. Do any of
you have experience with this remover?
As for vintage value, hmm i had though long and hard about that and
decided to keep my 66 as original as a could since it has good wood
in it and all, but the 74, is just not much to look at and i think
that one of the joys of airstreams is that they can become whatever
we wish of them. I looked for a while for one with the body i wanted
that was already gutted, but to no avail. So this is my route.
I wish i had the money to buy the new high tech AS but alas i'm
building my own. Stand back, this may hurt abit.
If anyone has a similar one that isnt intact and would like to talk
about a swap, im open to it. Otherwise i will try to send out as many
bits and parts to other projects and hopefully she will live on in
many dreams.
>
> To answer your questions:
> 1. No, Yes, Yes
> 2. NO, NO
> Easiest? 3M makes an adhesive remover for contact cement. What you
> want to do *is* possible but it would be a real PITA to do. But,
> since you are set on doing this take your time and you will enjoy
> the results. You do realilze you are somewhat destroying the
> "vintage value" of this Airstream, right? I'm sure you thought of
> that otherwise you wouldn't have asked. Right?
>
> From: <mailto:airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>Rivka
> I want bare aluminum walls.
>
> do i
>
> 1. take all my inside panels off while i have my interior stripped,
> and try to strip them in someway? I have the vinyl? wallpaper on
> them now is this possible and will the aluminum every look good?
> or
> 2. Use the pieces to cut new aluminum to go back in? will i every
> get it to fit?
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
"A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving." --
Lao Tzu
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Message Number: 53
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:03:13 -0600
From: "Terry O'Neill" <woodfloor@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Re: re flying cloud at Alberta Auction
Hi Cindy
Any word on where the purchaser of the 55 Flying Cloud is from? I was
unable
to attend the auction due to another commitment but would love a chance
to
see it in person.
Take Care
Terry O'Neill
Calgary
66 Trade-Wind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
http://pages.sprint.ca/Streamsite/main.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Hale" <chale@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:48 AM
Subject: [VAC] re flying cloud at Alberta Auction
> Hi all,
> Just for your information:
> I spoke to the folks at the auction centre. The 55 Flying Cloud sold
> for
> $32,000 Cdn.
> That's about $21,000 US.
> Cindy
>
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Message Number: 54
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:13:31 -0500
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <kallen@xxxxxxxxxx.k12.il.us>
Subject: Re: Refinishing Bathroom Unit
Greetings Rivka!
I make the final color selection on Friday (9/27), and the Overlander
goes
into the sevice bay on Saturday (9/28) . The plan as it stand now is to
pick up the trailer after completion on October 5. I will post an update
when I pick up the unit.
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (Towcar in
Training)
----- Original Message -----
From: Rivka <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Refinishing Bathroom Unit
> Kevin did you get this done yet? and if so how was the experience and
> the out come, i going on a beige eradication mission in my '74
> Overlander and keep staring at the bath and the front ceiling console
> as the tricky parts.
> let me know.
> Or anyone else that has changed the color of there plastics.
>
>>
>> My trailer is scheduled to have its bath refinished in September in a
>> color that they call dove gray. I am confident based upon speaking
>> with
>> others who have had household fiberglass fixtures refinished by this
>> contractor that my Airstream will turn out beautifully.
>>
>> Good luck with your project!
>>
>> Kevin D. Allen
>
>
> --
> Rivka and Her Girls
> "Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
> & "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
>
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Message Number: 55
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:28:04 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Axles
Has anyone had any experance with"Flexiride rubber torsion axles?I was
quoted
a price of $315.76 for 3500 lb axle with breaks.They are sold by
Southwest
wheel Dallis Texas 1-800-866-3336.I am going to get the necessary
masurements
of my existing axles and try to see if thay can make a fit up.
their site is
http://www.southwestwheel.com/traileraxles/flexiride
Jim Smith
1965 Tradewind (THE Silver Abaltross)
1992 Dodge Cummins Diesel 4+2
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Message Number: 56
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:36:59 -0700
From: Rivka <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Refinishing Bathroom Unit
I cant wait!, make sure to take good before pictures. And i wonder
if they will let you see the stages of the proses, boy that would be
neet to see and learn about.
> I make the final color selection on Friday (9/27), and the Overlander
> goes
> into the sevice bay on Saturday (9/28) . The plan as it stand now is to
> pick up the trailer after completion on October 5. I will post an
> update
> when I pick up the unit.
>
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
"A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving." --
Lao Tzu
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