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Today's Topics:
1. 63 dump valve
2. Re: Water heater
3. Re: 63 dump valve
4. Re: 63 dump valve
5. Re: 2" heater duct
6. Re: Sureflo water pumps
7. Re: A seller's market?
8. List Protocal
9. Re: another polishing technique
10. Blonde wood finish
11. Re: Generators for RV Use
12. Re:
13. Re:
14. polishing - die grinder
15. Fw: [Hensley Arrow RV Hitch Club] Hensley Arrow Hitch for sale !!
16. Re: PJM-> 63 dump valve
17. Re:
18. Re: PJM-> 63 dump valve
19. Re: Blonde wood finish
20. Re:
21. "highly evaporative" & "unflammable" solvent
22. Re: 63 dump valve
23. Re:
24. Re: 2" heater duct
25. Re:
26. Re:
27. Thanks for help locating alum. hinge and bunk
28. Re: Generators for RV Use
29. Re: Buying Axles
30. Re: Generators for RV Use
31. Classic Airstream Motorhome
32. Re: Generators for RV Use
33. Re: Buying Axles
34. free vintage tow vehicle
35. Re: free vintage tow vehicle
36. Re: Generators for RV Use
37. Re: free vintage tow vehicle
38. Re: free vintage tow vehicle
39. Re: Generators for RV Use
40. Re: Generators for RV Use
41. Re: Generators for RV Use
42. Re: Three way light switch
43. Vintage lighting
44. Vintage lighting
45. Re: Frozen Hehr cylinders
46. Tuna
47. Re: Generators for RV Use
48. Re: Buying Axles
49. Re: Generators for RV Use
50. Re: Buying Axles
51. Re: Vintage lighting
52. Re: Buying Axles
53. Re: free vintage tow vehicle
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Message Number: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:26:24 -0500
From: "J.Evans Woodward III" <broev@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: 63 dump valve
Just removed my leaky dump valve and need to replace or rebuild.
The 63 had no grey water tank and two drain pipes enter the valve body below
the valve. All the replacements I've seen will not accommodate these two
drain pipes. I asked my local RV dealer (not AS)about a rebuild kit and they
said one was not available. HELP !!
Thanks,
Evans
63 sov
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Message Number: 2
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:33:26 -0500
From: "J.Evans Woodward III" <broev@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Water heater
Dick,
This is a pasted copy of a reply to a similar question last week.
Hope it helps.
orig msg.
I guess the heater to use would be either a 6 or 10 gallon
Suburban/Atwood? Is it possible
to use the Bowen cover on the outside to get the original look?
Paul Waddell
66 Overlander w/non working Bowen WH
Yes, I just changed out a Bowen for a 6gal. Atwood on my 63.
I'll try to remember the steps, mine came out very nice.
1. to get the Bowen out I took the outer rectangular housing off the tank
and removed the tank from inside.
2. blocked under the Atwood with a treated 2x and shimmed up the back so the
face plate would line up flush with the outside of the trailer.
3. took measurements for the inner original cover and cut to fit.
4. assembled the inner cover and heater out on the ground, then reinstalled.
5. strapped the new heater to the floor w/ original aluminum strap, new
blocks and screws.
6. flipped over and trimmed the top inner cover to fit the Atwood exhaust
and installed.
7. bent the tabs out on the exhaust flue on the outer cover, and reinstalled
it on the other side of the outer cover.
8. trimmed the inside of the outer cover to fit new exhaust and installed.
The 10 gal. would not fit my interior configuration but it my fit yours. I
don't think the installation would be any different.
If you decide to go with it and have questions, I check this list daily.
Evans,
62 sovereign
-----Original Message-----
Water water everywhere.
After fixing and or replacing a lot of the plumbing in the Bambi I
pressurized the system only to see water seeping out from under the Bowen
water heater. So what does the group recommend for a replacement? I would
like to continue to use the Bowen cover consistent with RJ's recomendation.
Does this suggest a particular brand or unit? I think the Bowen is (was) a
9 gallon so I'm sure I won't go over 10. Much as I would love an on demand
type I think the price and size are going to make it impractical for a 16
foot unit with only a blue bomber for grey water. So is there any magic
answer or do I just measure the hole and get the best fit?
Dick
'62 Bambi
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Message Number: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:58:26 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: 63 dump valve
A 63 had a brass vale. Parts have not been available for over 35 years. You
can update the system by installing a present day valve with fiberglass.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:17:07 -0500
From: "J.Evans Woodward III" <broev@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: 63 dump valve
Andy,
Thanks for the post.
Do you mean fiberglass the valve to the tank, or the drains to the lower
part of the valve?
My family owns a custom industrial rubber and fiberglass shop and I may try
to fabricate a new blade and seal.
Thanks,
Evans
-----Original Message-----
A 63 had a brass valve. Parts have not been available for over 35 years. You
can update the system by installing a present day valve with fiberglass.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 5
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:09:37 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: 2" heater duct
I think I saw it at Home Despot..
Daisy
> Jim Combs wrote:
>
> Anybody know a source for the 2" furnace duct
> that feeds into the '70s holding tank compartments?
> I believe the name of the stuff is Thermaflex.
>
> Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
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Message Number: 6
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:35:40 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Sureflo water pumps
Hi Tim,
I went ahead and installed the backflow valve even though the pump has one.
I'd rather keep shore pressure off the pump. Doesn't seem to have any
effect on the water volume delivered.
'74 Argosy, Joy
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Message Number: 7
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:47:14 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: A seller's market?
Thank Andy,
Yes, I do understand your point of view and appreciate what it takes to
reverse engineer a vintage axle. You're the only game in town and you'll
always get cheap shots. I respect you knowledge and appreciate the advice
you've given based on your experience and education with regard to Airstream
(and Argosy). Dexter will sell me many axles at a pretty reasonable price,
if . . . . I buy a quantity of axles! :) Makes your point perfectly.
Keep the faith and hopefully you'll be there when I decide to get new axles,
stone guards, etc. I might be in Corona, CA shortly and it would be my
pleasure to meet you and see your facility.
Thanks, Joy Argosy, '69
Safari, Joy
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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:53:39 -0400
From: "Edward Emerick" <EEMERICK@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: List Protocal
Hello,
The monitors of this list feel that it is time again to remind you of
list protocol and manners in general. We have had some personal attacks
in the past and resent times that do nothing for those trying to learn
how to repair and maintain vintage Airstream trailers. It will not do
any of us good to spend the time reading or posting attacks.
It is recommended that you be polite, stick to the subject, hold your
non-Airstream repair/restoration opinions to yourself, or if you can't,
blast the other offender OFF LIST.
Take a moment to read the VAC list requirements and work to uphold those
wishes for the benefit of those of us who only have the time to read
information that pertains to fixing the damn trailer!
Thank you for your support,
Monitor Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
A damn 68 Sovereign
A damn 59 Traveler
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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:30:00 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: another polishing technique
AS a person who has spent many happy houts polishing with a 12 lb milwakee
angle buffer the answere is YES you will get swearl marks with a buffer it is
fine to do the heavy buffing with but aeed a random orbert or a DA(dual
action) buffer to take out the sweral marks.
Jim Smith
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:40:02 EDT
From: Okydokey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Blonde wood finish
Anyone have any idea how to repair or refinish the blonde or pickled look
wood finish (real light) from a '58 A/S? It just has chips and scratches.
Thanks,
Jason
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:57:49 -0500
From: "Paul P. Waddell" <balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
Jim,
I see you spoke to Todd Hayes, I'm sure you found that they are very
willing and
able to answer questions about generators, plus have some of the lowest
prices.
I purchased my EU3000si from them and will most likely purchase the dual
EU2000 this spring (from them).
Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC 1270
1966 Overlander
1970 23' LY
James Greene wrote:
>
> Okay folks, here's what Todd Hayes (Honda generator dealer) has to say about
> running RV air conditioning with Honda generators. I may ask some other
> dealers if their experience and recommended applications are the same.
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: " Hayes Equipment" <order@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:49
> Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
>
> > Thanks for the email Jim. I'm glad to hear from the Airstream buffs... I
> > looked for one myself until settling on a 92 Hitchhiker 2 5th wheel. One
> of
> > the great things about my job is being able to visit with RVers across the
> > country... I learn something new eveyday.
> > The EU2000i will run roof top airs up to 10,000 btu and will initially
> start
> > some 13,500's but we don't recommend them for 13,500's. The problem is
> that
> > once the compressor builds up pressure and kicks off... then back on, the
> > load is higher and 1 EU2000i can't handle it.
> > I have had many customers opt for a pair of EU2000i's and the parallel kit
> > instead of going with the EU3000is. It's not a whole lot more money and
> > makes an easier to tote setup... and you have an extra 1000 watts
> available.
> > The EU3000is is the one I use, and it's still our best seller for RVs with
> > roof airs. Most of my customers just leave in the pick up bed.
> > The lightweight alternative is the 68lb. EB3000c which runs at 68dB... it
> > louder than the super quiet series but nowhere near as loud as the Onan's
> > and other brand X units. I have used them when dry camping and when
> you're
> > in the camper and the air is running, you can't hear the generator running
> > outside.
> > Thanks Again,
> > Todd Hayes
> >
> > Wholesale Manager
> > Hayes Equipment
> > 1-800-375-PROS (7767)
> > www.hayesequipment.com/wholesale.htm
> >
> > Hayes Equipment
> > 1417 John B. Hayes Rd.
> > Ponca City, OK 74601
> >
>
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>
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>
>
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:37:57 -0500
From: jim graves <homeplac@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
http://www.autobodysupply.net/catalog/default.asp?ManufacturerID=95
>
> here's a picture of a da- an indespensible tool for sanding auto body panels
or anything else actually. as to the depth and the alclad etc.- i'm only
going by the depth of the pits and scratches, which are much much deeper
than the da is cutting. i cannot make the f7 cut the clear coat. am still
experimenting. can't remember at the moment the name of the solvent. i can
tell you it will melt plastic in a hurry-but not the clear coat i'm afraid.
i will post the solvent tomorrow when i can get back to the shop.
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 12
> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:25:10 -0600
> From: Robert Davis <rob-iod@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: another polishing technique
>
> jim graves wrote:
> "i rummaged out one of the da's i use for body work"
>
> Hate to ask but, what is a da?
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:20:23 -0600
From: "Tuna" <rctowns@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
has anyone tried ammonia to remove clearcoat? wasn't it charlie burke who
suggested it?
tuna
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim graves" <homeplac@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:37 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re:
> http://www.autobodysupply.net/catalog/default.asp?ManufacturerID=95
>
> >
> > here's a picture of a da- an indespensible tool for sanding auto body
panels
> or anything else actually. as to the depth and the alclad etc.- i'm only
> going by the depth of the pits and scratches, which are much much deeper
> than the da is cutting. i cannot make the f7 cut the clear coat. am still
> experimenting. can't remember at the moment the name of the solvent. i
can
> tell you it will melt plastic in a hurry-but not the clear coat i'm
afraid.
> i will post the solvent tomorrow when i can get back to the shop.
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message Number: 12
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:25:10 -0600
> > From: Robert Davis <rob-iod@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > Subject: Re: another polishing technique
> >
> > jim graves wrote:
> > "i rummaged out one of the da's i use for body work"
> >
> > Hate to ask but, what is a da?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:25:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: polishing - die grinder
If you don't sit in the same spot it won't... Here's
a couple pictures of my project for you:
Here's where I sanded one of the dome pieces with
aluminum polishing paper from 3M (made for marine use)
http://www.airstream-bohemia.com/slide5.jpg
and then I took the die grinder, 10A cut and color
rouge, followed by Tripoli, followed by Rolite AP-300:
http://www.airstream-bohemia.com/slide7.jpg
No burns on that piece, but it you look at it with a
flashlight at night, you can see "lapping" where the
buff overlapped. I'm a psycho, so that drives me
nuts... I'm just now finishing up therapy. (c:
Toby
p.s. with the die grinder spinning so fast, the skin
was so shiny it was holographic - enough to scare me
when I walked in the garage before turning on a light.
> I wonder if the
> relatively high speed would burn the skin.
>
> Jim
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Message Number: 15
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:32:06 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Fw: [Hensley Arrow RV Hitch Club] Hensley Arrow Hitch for sale !!
Here's a Hensley at an attractive price.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----=20
From: wtfjrinc=20
To: hensleyarrowrvhitchclub@xxxxxxxxxx.com=20
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 21:29
Subject: [Hensley Arrow RV Hitch Club] Hensley Arrow Hitch for sale !!
We just purchased a 5th wheel so our faithful Hensley is now for=20
sale !! If you are reading this note, you know about the Hensley=20
hitches.=20
If not, go to www.nosway.com for the full story.
Priced at $1350.00 or best offer, near our home in the Daytona Beach=20
FL area.
Email us at wfrenchjr@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com for pics & info.
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Message Number: 16
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:01:32 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: PJM-> 63 dump valve
Evans - I`m wondering how I`m going to route those grey water pipes too ...if
your making a new seal for the brass valve - make two ! or two hundred ! I`m
sure lots of people could use them . Shame to throw out such a nice bronze valve
body to replace it with a plastic one .
Chris 63 x2
"J.Evans Woodward III" wrote:
> Andy,
> Thanks for the post.
> Do you mean fiberglass the valve to the tank, or the drains to the lower
> part of the valve?
> My family owns a custom industrial rubber and fiberglass shop and I may try
> to fabricate a new blade and seal.
> Thanks,
> Evans
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> A 63 had a brass valve. Parts have not been available for over 35 years. You
> can update the system by installing a present day valve with fiberglass.
>
> Andy
> inlandrv.com
> airstreamparts.com
>
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Message Number: 17
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:41:43 -0500
From: jim graves <homeplac@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
1) What is the highly evaporative solvent that you
> wet your wool polishing
> pad with?
> (
acetone. i bought every solvent at the paint store and just started
experimenting. you just need a lot of ventilation. my shop has doors on both
ends and i run a fan. in the winter it could be problematic.
does anybody know how you can tell when the alclad layer has been breached
and what are the consequences. i have sanded and sanded and sanded a
discarded piece of original skin and no matter how bad i beat it up it still
seems to polish?
by the way, my caravaner is simply very darklky oxydized and not clearcoated
and one pass with f7 and the drill produces a shine that the cyclo makes
mirror like. my 'da' technique is clearly reserved for the worst.
jim graves
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Message Number: 18
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:59:42 -0500
From: "J.Evans Woodward III" <broev@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: PJM-> 63 dump valve
Chris,
I took the valve apart this morning. There are three gaskets.
one is an o-ring should be readily available
two is a rectangular gasket cut from a flat sheet (no problem)
three is a flat circular gasket (no problem)
When I cut mine I'll cut you some extras.
The difficult part of my rebuild will be the blade. The tip of my blade is
bent and the upper sealing surface is scarred. It is made of brass. I'm
going to try to flatten the end and fill and resurface the top of the blade.
I'll keep you informed.
Evans,
62 sov
"Chris wrote"
Evans - I`m wondering how I`m going to route those grey water pipes too
. ...if
your making a new seal for the brass valve - make two ! or two hundred !
I`m
sure lots of people could use them . Shame to throw out such a nice bronze
valve
body to replace it with a plastic one .
Chris 63 x2
"J.Evans Woodward III" wrote:
> Andy,
> Thanks for the post.
> Do you mean fiberglass the valve to the tank, or the drains to the lower
> part of the valve?
> My family owns a custom industrial rubber and fiberglass shop and I may
try
> to fabricate a new blade and seal.
> Thanks,
> Evans
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> A 63 had a brass valve. Parts have not been available for over 35 years.
You
> can update the system by installing a present day valve with fiberglass.
>
> Andy
> inlandrv.com
> airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 19
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:04:43 -0500
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <kallen@xxxxxxxxxx.k12.il.us>
Subject: Re: Blonde wood finish
Greetings Jason!
When I refinished a blond oak bedroom set (circa 1957), I was able to
find a bleaching agent and stain kit at my local Sherwin Williams paint
retailer. Depending upon the base wood's color and graining, the
bleaching agent may not be necessary. The stain is a very milky color
that can be tinted to any range of shades to approximate the original.
The secret with the furniture that I refinished was one coat of the
bleaching agent followed by neutralization as recommended by the
manufacturer with a light general sanding following the neutralization.
To get the desired effect on my furniture project, I used six light
coats of the wipe-on/wipe-of gel stain followed by a very light sanding
with three coats of a water based polyurethane with light sanding
between coats.
Good luck with your project!
Kevin
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (Towcar in
Training)
----- Original Message -----
From: Okydokey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:40 PM
Subject: [VAC] Blonde wood finish
Anyone have any idea how to repair or refinish the blonde or pickled
look wood finish (real light) from a '58 A/S? It just has chips and
scratches.
Thanks,
Jason
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Message Number: 20
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:20:26 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
Yikes!
I have to make worried noises over acetone. Toxic City. Both inhaling
and skin contact are bad news. I dunno what precautions you should take,
but find out and be afraid of this stuff.
Daisy (29 years of being a mom will do this to you...)
jim graves wrote:
>
> 1) What is the highly evaporative solvent that you
> > wet your wool polishing
> > pad with?
> > (
>
> acetone. i bought every solvent at the paint store and just started
> experimenting. you just need a lot of ventilation. my shop has doors on both
> ends and i run a fan. in the winter it could be problematic.
>
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Message Number: 21
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:41:34 -0700
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: "highly evaporative" & "unflammable" solvent
Jim,
I manage a vehicle development facility. We do quite a bit of FRP work and
use a lot of Acetone. I pulled the MSDS sheets this morning for your
descendants benefit. Just a word of warning. This is a quote from the "Fire
and Explosion Hazards" section. "Danger: Extremely Flammable. Keep away from
heat, sparks, flame and all other sources of ignition. Vapors may cause
flash fire or ignite explosively. Do not smoke. Extinguish all flames and
pilot lights, and turn off stoves , heaters, electric motors and all other
sources of ignition during use and until all vapors are gone. Beware of
static electricity that may be generated by synthetic clothing and other
sources." We only bring out as much as we need for the specific task from
our Fire Proof cabinet. The Drum stays in another Hazardous Chemicals
Container outside of the building.
Colin Hyde
57 Sovereign of the Road
59 Ambassador International
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim graves" <homeplac@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:41 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re:
> 1) What is the highly evaporative solvent that you
> > wet your wool polishing
> > pad with?
> > (
>
> acetone. i bought every solvent at the paint store and just started
> experimenting.
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Message Number: 22
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:12:30 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: 63 dump valve
Evans. Cut the brass valve from the tank. Fiberglass the Thetford adapter to
the tank. That allows you to fasten whatever Thetford valve you wish to use
to the adapter. DO NOT glass the valve directly to the tank.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 23
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:35:58 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re:
Short term skin contact will not kill you or cause a serious health provlem
for the average person. When I was in the fiberglass boat industry we
scrubbed the resin off our hands and arms many times a day (we didn't know
any better yhan) after many years I am still healthier than most 75 year
olds.Having said that common sense is still the best policy.
Jim Smith
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Message Number: 24
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:07:28 -0500
From: "Jim Combs" <jimcombs@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 2" heater duct
Don't have it at any of our local HD's, Lowes,
or mom-n-pop hardware stores. Found plenty of
the 4" stuff (which I needed), and even some
of the 3" stuff (also needed - for the bathroom
exhaust fan). But no 2" duct anywhere local.
Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
-----Original Message-----
>From: Daisy Welch [mailto:jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
>
>I think I saw it at Home Despot..
>
>
>> Jim Combs wrote:
>> Anybody know a source for the 2" furnace duct
>> that feeds into the '70s holding tank compartments?
>> I believe the name of the stuff is Thermaflex.
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Message Number: 25
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:22:30 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
There may be a change of color and surface hardness when you remove all
the Alclad. If you look closely at the cut edge of the sheet you should
see the center is a slightly different color than the surface. When
polished to a mirror, the different center alloys compared to the
surface pure aluminum may not make much difference, still the alloys
will weather differently than the aluminum at the surface because of
local battery action when wet. But the pure aluminum of the Alclad
surface will polish easier than the alloy because the pure aluminum is
softer than the alloy, (probably 2024).
My Caravel already has sheets in three different shades on the surface
and its not been polished or had any sheets replaced.
Acetone will remove skin oils all the way to the bone in seconds. It
will also dissolve more plastics than most any other solvent. Things
like seals, gaskets, caulk, Lucite (used for solvent welding Lucite and
Plexiglass), parts of tools, shoes, polyester clothes, etc. Then every
common electric buffer has a switch that sparks a little and brushes
that spark a lot. Using acetone as a floor cleaner with a commercial
buffer has cost lives from the resulting fire. And there were only two
short sparks from the induction motor of the buffer. One from the power
switch, and one from the starting switch.
Gerald J.
--
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.
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Message Number: 26
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:22:33 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
I think it (ammonia) was tried at a gathering and would work only on
some vintages of clearcoat and didn't touch others.
Gerald J.
--
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Message Number: 27
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:38:59 +0000
From: "Eric Leigh" <vaporsys@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Thanks for help locating alum. hinge and bunk
Just a quick followup to all who helped me locate the aluminum piano hinge
for the rock guard on our 1964 Tradewind. Mitch, that mcsdirect.com is
amazing for supplies.
Secondly, I was able to locate the hardware and the bunk itself in Texas and
it is on its way to me. Will still have lots of questions, but for now,
just one happy camper.
Eric and Camela Leigh
64 Tradewind Double
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Message Number: 28
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:00:42 -0500
From: "Jim Combs" <jimcombs@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
Paul,
I'm wondering why you're going after the two
EU2000's if you already have a EU3000. Is
the 3000 too weak, too heavy, or what?
Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul P. Waddell [mailto:balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu]
[snip]
> I purchased my EU3000si from them and will most likely purchase the dual
> EU2000 this spring (from them).
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Message Number: 29
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:11:45 -0600
From: "Phil" <mustang@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Buying Axles
I would like to change our thread on axles. I would like to hear ideas about
ways to adapt other axles to an Airstream. I have a 61 Tradewind with solid
axle and leaf springs. It looks like standard stuff that should be available
at trailer supply places. There are only 2 small brackets welded to the
frame and the shock mount. It tows very well, I have not been able to tell
any difference with the newer axle trailers. (73 GT, 74 Argosy) Now to my
ideas, Ford has available an air suspension for the rear of the newer F250
type trucks, A great idea that should be in all trucks so they can work when
needed but ride nicely unloaded. It's a simple setup with a minimal amount
of leaf springs to keep the axle in place, the airbags are mounted between
the axle and frame, they take most of the load. It seems like a similar
system might be easily adapted to an airstream with leaf springs and maybe
retrofitted to newer ones for replacing axles and easing the ride of the
trailer. There are different kinds of airbags and controllers on the
market. What are other ideas on this.
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Message Number: 30
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:36:20 -0500
From: "Paul P. Waddell" <balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
Jimbo,
No, the EU3000 works GREAT!! I used it two weeks ago for 3 days
straight.
Never even shut the thing off to refuel(I know, dumb). The reason, I am
someone that hates to have to move equipment back and forth. Since I
have
two Airstreams, I want to complete setups. Plus, sometimes I also carry
a
hot air balloon system on the back of the truck. In that case, it would
be
better to have two small generators, for packing instead of one. Plus, I
have friends that use one of my Airstreams, this way they have power
too.
Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC 1270
66 Overlander
70 23' LY single
> Jim Combs wrote:
>
> Paul,
> I'm wondering why you're going after the two
> EU2000's if you already have a EU3000. Is
> the 3000 too weak, too heavy, or what?
>
> Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul P. Waddell [mailto:balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu]
> [snip]
> > I purchased my EU3000si from them and will most likely purchase the
> dual
> > EU2000 this spring (from them).
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Message Number: 31
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:38:58 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Classic Airstream Motorhome
A major commercial production company contacted me looking for a
Airstream Classic Motorhome (the silver ones) to rent for the period
Sept. 18th-21st. This is not a small independent, but the big boys,
and will pay a fee, plus transportation to Sacramento CA from any
US/Canada location, and has insurance & liability coverage.
If interested in seeing your rig on TV, please contact me offline for
contact info.
RJ Dial
VAC Webmaster
webmaster@xxxxxxxxxx.org
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Message Number: 32
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:05:05 -0500
From: "Jim Combs" <jimcombs@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
Okay, thanks. Now I see. But now, let me ask you this --
The output specs for the EU3000 look like this:
120V 3000W max. (25A) / 2800W rated (23.3A)
Our Airstreams are equipped for 30 amp service. I can
see that this will work the air conditioner, as the breaker
for my ac circuit is a 20 amp'er, but aren't you severely
limited as to what else you can operate?
Jimbo / '76 Sovereign (living in Texas -- ac runs all the time)
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul P. Waddell [mailto:balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu]
>
>No, the EU3000 works GREAT!! I used it two weeks ago for 3 days
>straight.
>
[snips]
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Message Number: 33
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:10:22 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Buying Axles
There are multiple vendors of air spring suspensions. Probably none are
specific to the Airstream, but many probably have essentially
"universal" kits and parts that could be mounted. Primarily there is a
need (at least from the pictures I have of those from the Air Lift
company) to have access to the face of the frame to bolt on the top part
of the suspension and then room to add a plate to the top of the leaf
spring. The '61 Airstream used pretty much common trailer parts
available at every vendor of trailer, including horse trailers. It's
been posted on this list, probably more than once, that the same exact
brakes and axle parts for horse trailers tends to cost a great deal less
than from a RV dealer.
Ordinary trailer leaf springs are also available from Northern in
several weights. Also axles, brakes, drums, and spindles ready to weld
to tubing to make any axle length desired. Many farm stores carry those
parts also. So getting new suspension parts for the early leaf spring
Airstreams should not be a hassle.
The main benefit of air springs is matching the spring rate to the load.
I don't think its nearly of the benefit to a camping trailer as a
utility trailer. That's because the range of load weights for the camper
is small, primarily water (clean and waste), groceries, and clothes.
Perhaps the capability of pumping the air springs up tight would make
the trailer more stable for walking around, which might be a simpler
operation than using stabilizing jacks. Or conversely letting the
trailer settle down to the lower stops by releasing the air pressure for
a more stable camping platform and easier stepping up.
Of course, the restoration purist will say that Airstream never used air
springs so its not original. However the use of air springs for large
truck trailers is common, and in some luxury automobiles in some time
frames.
Air springs work, I don't know if the early vintage Airstream needs
them... But then I don't know that mankind is better for having
adjustable ride height customized automobiles than can bound and jump,
but they exist.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 34
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:36:03 -0700
From: Susan Altstatt <dsa@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: free vintage tow vehicle
Hi All;
I'm trying to give away a vintage puller, 1976 International
Scout Traveler,set up for trailer towing. The charities won't
take it, saying it's "too old". Used to tow a 4600# SOB for years.
Description: 2-wd, gasoline 345 v-8, Chyrsler torque flight trans,
limited slip rear axle, two door, hatchback.
Has Tekonsha hydraulic actuated brake controller and
heavy duty hitch receiver.
Not currently registered. Needs some work to pass smog.
My mother drove it until it was decided that she shouldn't drive
anymore..
she's 92 now.
For more information, please call my husband John at 650-949-1266
or email at jea@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Located in Los Altos Hills, CA (SF bay area).
We don't need the vehicle as we tow with a F-250 superduty
powerstroke.
--
Susan Altstatt
Altstatt Associates
www.altstatt.com
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Message Number: 35
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: free vintage tow vehicle
I want it, but how many people have said that!
Toby Folwick
--- Susan Altstatt <dsa@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> Hi All;
>
> I'm trying to give away a vintage puller, 1976
> International
> Scout Traveler,set up for trailer towing. The
> charities won't
> take it, saying it's "too old". Used to tow a 4600#
> SOB for years.
>
> Description: 2-wd, gasoline 345 v-8, Chyrsler
> torque flight trans,
> limited slip rear axle, two door, hatchback.
> Has Tekonsha hydraulic actuated brake controller and
> heavy duty hitch receiver.
>
> Not currently registered. Needs some work to pass
> smog.
> My mother drove it until it was decided that she
> shouldn't drive
> anymore..
> she's 92 now.
>
> For more information, please call my husband John at
> 650-949-1266
> or email at jea@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>
> Located in Los Altos Hills, CA (SF bay area).
>
> We don't need the vehicle as we tow with a F-250
> superduty
> powerstroke.
> --
> Susan Altstatt
> Altstatt Associates
> www.altstatt.com
>
>
>
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> please go to
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>
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> unnecessary original text
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Message Number: 36
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:52:32 -0500
From: "Paul P. Waddell" <balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
Jimbo,
Yes, you would have trouble, if say you were using a microwave
oven at the same time, or had your frigerator on AC power, etc...
when the AC compresser kit in and out. Since I do not have a
mircowave oven, only use my refrigerator on gas, wife does not
use a hairdryer, etc... It works very well for use. You may find
the way you camp that you would be better with the two EU2000 for
more power.
Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC 1270
66 Overlander
70 23' LY single
> Jim Combs wrote:
>
> Okay, thanks. Now I see. But now, let me ask you this --
> The output specs for the EU3000 look like this:
>
> 120V 3000W max. (25A) / 2800W rated (23.3A)
>
> Our Airstreams are equipped for 30 amp service. I can
> see that this will work the air conditioner, as the breaker
> for my ac circuit is a 20 amp'er, but aren't you severely
> limited as to what else you can operate?
>
> Jimbo / '76 Sovereign (living in Texas -- ac runs all the time)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul P. Waddell [mailto:balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu]
> >
> >No, the EU3000 works GREAT!! I used it two weeks ago for 3 days
> >straight.
> >
> [snips]
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Message Number: 37
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:57:26 -0500
From: "Paul P. Waddell" <balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: free vintage tow vehicle
First one to the house WINS!!
Wish I could be in the race. If anyone knows where a 1966/67
International
Travelall in mint shape on the east coast let me know. I have the tow
car for the 1970 Airstream, Ford Country Squire Station Wagon, need
something
for the 66 Overlander.
Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC
66 Overlander
70 23' LY single
Susan Altstatt wrote:
>
> Hi All;
>
> I'm trying to give away a vintage puller, 1976 International
> Scout Traveler,set up for trailer towing. The charities won't
> take it, saying it's "too old". Used to tow a 4600# SOB for years.
>
> Description: 2-wd, gasoline 345 v-8, Chyrsler torque flight trans,
> limited slip rear axle, two door, hatchback.
> Has Tekonsha hydraulic actuated brake controller and
> heavy duty hitch receiver.
>
> Not currently registered. Needs some work to pass smog.
> My mother drove it until it was decided that she shouldn't drive
> anymore..
> she's 92 now.
>
> For more information, please call my husband John at 650-949-1266
> or email at jea@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>
> Located in Los Altos Hills, CA (SF bay area).
>
> We don't need the vehicle as we tow with a F-250 superduty
> powerstroke.
> --
> Susan Altstatt
> Altstatt Associates
> www.altstatt.com
>
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> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
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>
>
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Message Number: 38
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:45:46 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: free vintage tow vehicle
Yeah, I had decided if it was a 1960's Travelall I could be there in 20
minutes.
Susan, what I can't figure out is how such a short wheelbased,
underpowered and lightweight vehicle could pull such a large trailer?
Anyway, thanks for offering it to the List - I'm sure it'll find a good
appreciative home.
RJ
VAC Webmaster
> -----Original Message-----
> From: balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu [mailto:balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Subject: [VAC] Re: free vintage tow vehicle
>
>
> First one to the house WINS!!
>
> Wish I could be in the race. If anyone knows where a 1966/67
> International
> Travelall in mint shape on the east coast let me know. I have the tow
> car for the 1970 Airstream, Ford Country Squire Station Wagon, need
> something
> for the 66 Overlander.
>
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC
> 66 Overlander
> 70 23' LY single
>
> Susan Altstatt wrote:
> >
> > Hi All;
> >
> > I'm trying to give away a vintage puller, 1976 International
> > Scout Traveler,set up for trailer towing. The charities won't
> > take it, saying it's "too old". Used to tow a 4600# SOB for years.
>
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Message Number: 39
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:06:39 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
> Jimbo,
>
> Yes, you would have trouble, if say you were using a microwave
> oven at the same time, or had your frigerator on AC power, etc...
> when the AC compresser kit in and out. Since I do not have a
> mircowave oven, only use my refrigerator on gas, wife does not
> use a hairdryer, etc... It works very well for use. You may find
> the way you camp that you would be better with the two EU2000 for
> more power.
>
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC 1270
> 66 Overlander
> 70 23' LY single
Hi Paul and Jimbo:
I think you should consider the fact that the EU3000 weighs 134 lbs (dry).
My EU2000 weighs about 46 lbs (dry) and it's plenty heavy enough to lug
around.
Also if you consider that two EU2000s (4000 watts)cost $1640* and one EU3000
(3000 watts) costs $1599*, you get 1000 watts for $41.
Then you can run one unit most of the time for everything else but the A/C
and the other when it gets hot.
But I'm probably going to get a smaller A/C myself and live with one EU2000
and turn off the A/C while I microwave the popcorn.
GQ '67 Safari
* at Alamia Inc in Denver, where I got mine.
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Message Number: 40
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:18:20 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
I shouldn't try to do big time math in my head.
Let's try this again.
2 EU2000 @ $845 = $1690
1 EU3000 @ $1599 = $1599
_____
1000 watts for..................$91
Must be time for my nap.
GQ '67 Safari
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Message Number: 41
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:46:50 -0500
From: "Jim Combs" <jimcombs@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
So, then two EU2000's would output 33.33amps max,
and 26.66amps rated. Is it safe to assume one
wouldn't have to worry about straining that set-up?
And then, to cloud the issue a bit, the EB5000 is
priced at $1789. Louder and heavier, but that
guy does 120/240V 5000W max (41.7/20.8A) /
4500W rated (37.5/18.8A).
Lots to consider, I guess.
Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Quamen [mailto:g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
I shouldn't try to do big time math in my head.
Let's try this again.
2 EU2000 @ $845 = $1690
1 EU3000 @ $1599 = $1599
_____
1000 watts for..................$91
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Message Number: 42
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:51:24 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Three way light switch
Dr. G.
Thanks for the clue. Pearl gave me a retail source at Lowes and a part
number. I am very interested in compact flurescents. I was out at Camping
World yesterday and missed seeing them. The savings in power that you cite
with flurescents will make a world of difference once I go on the road with
solar panels. Thanks for your thoughts.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 43
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:54:53 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Vintage lighting
Dear John,
I think the fluro conversion is very practical but as Dr. G has stated
the color quality of most fluorescents leaves out a lot of the color
spectrum. I am particularly interested in the compact fluorecents which MAY
have a better color quality.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
From: "John R. Kleven" <jrkleven@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Three way light switch
> Bob,
> I took all of my four bulb fixtures down and replace them with florescent.
> They are much brighter and efficient.
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Message Number: 44
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:59:35 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Vintage lighting
Dear Kevin,
What a wealth of testimonials I got from the great VACers! You were the
voice for replacing the rectangular covers and holding on to the fixtures.
For the time being I am going your way. Since I'm hooked up to shore power
I have no problem with batteries. I like the spectral quality of
incandescent light and especially if the new covers are bright white. Let
me know if you spot any overheating causing miscoloration or worse problems
like the stock fixtures. Thanx again.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <kallen@xxxxxxxxxx.k12.il.us>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Three way light switch
> Greetings Bob!
>
> While I cannot claim to be a purist in regard to restoring my Overlander,
> this is one area where I stayed with the stock fixtures. I work under
> flourescent lights all day and I refuse to have any such fixtures in my
home
> or RV. My father reminds me of the litany of advantages for flourescents
> every time that I refuse to install one in any of my rental houses, but I
> don't feel that the cost savings outweigh the inability to use a dimmer
with
> such fixtures nor does it overcome the harsh and unpleasant
characteristics
> of the light produced.
>
> I purchased new covers from Inland RV for the fixtures in my '64
Overlander
> and couldn't be happier. The new lenses/shades are made of superior
> materials when compared to the originals and are a very brilliant white
> color. I have had my lenses/shades for almost a year, and I even
purchased
> a couple of spares for future insurance.
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Message Number: 45
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:02:39 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Frozen Hehr cylinders
Dear Scott,
It's pretty hard to grab onto the part that attaches to the vent because
it is like 1/32" square? I'm afraid that I might destroy it. This short
square ending may be part of the problem?!
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Frozen Hehr cylinders
> Bob,
>
> If you are speaking about the Ladeau vent lifters do not hold onto the
outer
> cylinder as it turns with the handle. Hold onto the part that attaches to
> the vent.
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Message Number: 46
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:30:37 -0700
From: "Wayne Dannemiller" <w.dannemiller@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Tuna
Tuna,
My name is Wayne Dannemiller. I have a 47 Liner that I am replacing the
floor in now. I am going to be in Reno this Sunday and would like to meet
you and see your 48. If you are willing would you send me your e-mail
address or phone # so I can contact you off list.
My e-mail is w.dannemiller@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Thank you, Wayne
58 Edsel
47 Liner
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Message Number: 47
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:20:00 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
> So, then two EU2000's would output 33.33amps max,
> and 26.66amps rated. Is it safe to assume one
> wouldn't have to worry about straining that set-up?
>
> And then, to cloud the issue a bit, the EB5000 is
> priced at $1789. Louder and heavier, but that
> guy does 120/240V 5000W max (41.7/20.8A) /
> 4500W rated (37.5/18.8A).
>
> Lots to consider, I guess.
>
> Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
Yeah, and then there's horsepower and fuel consumption.
EU3000 = 6 1/2 hp, 7.1 hr per tank (3.4 gal) = ~2.0 hr/gal
EU2000 x 2 = 5 hp, 4.hr per tank (1 gal x 2) = 2.0 hr/gal. A push unless
you figure that you will only run one unit (4 hr/gal) most of the time. In
563.3 hours of single use, you will pay for the second EU2000 in gas savings
alone and get it free! Where's my Prozac?
GQ '67 Safari
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Message Number: 48
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:29:35 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Buying Axles
Gerald J.
Remember, when anyone modifies the suspension system of their trailer, they
have assumed any and all liability, if for any reason it ever hurts someone.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 49
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:36:39 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Generators for RV Use
RE: [VAC] Re: Generators for RV UseFor more clouds try the Honda EB
3000C at $1045 with free shipping.
3,000 watts max 2,600 rated at 68 dB and 68.4 lbs dry.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Combs
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 16:46
Subject: [VAC] Re: Generators for RV Use
So, then two EU2000's would output 33.33amps max,
and 26.66amps rated. Is it safe to assume one
wouldn't have to worry about straining that set-up?
And then, to cloud the issue a bit, the EB5000 is
priced at $1789. Louder and heavier, but that
guy does 120/240V 5000W max (41.7/20.8A) /
4500W rated (37.5/18.8A).
Lots to consider, I guess.
Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Quamen [mailto:g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
I shouldn't try to do big time math in my head.
Let's try this again.
2 EU2000 @ $845 =3D $1690
1 EU3000 @ $1599 =3D $1599
_____
1000 watts for..................$91
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Message Number: 50
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:47:03 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Buying Axles
Andy, I thought you were libel if your Airstream injured anybody whether the
suspension was altered or not. Is it different in California?
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: <Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 17:29
Subject: [VAC] Re: Buying Axles
> Gerald J.
> Remember, when anyone modifies the suspension system of their trailer,
they
> have assumed any and all liability, if for any reason it ever hurts
someone.
>
> Andy
> inlandrv.com
> airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 51
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:53:14 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Vintage lighting
The compact fluorescents DO have a better color quality. Look at the
color rendering index. Incandescent are given a value of 100, compact
fluorescents are in the low 80s, ordinary fluorescents (the classic Cold
White) are in the 50s and 60s according to my WESCO supply catalog.
Many, if not all, of the Camper's World fluorescents use the old T5
straight tubes, the worst things for efficiency and for color.
While not applicable to 12 volt operation (as far as I know) Phillips
does make a dimmable 120 volt compact fluorescent, called Earth Light
Dimmable. I didn't believe it so I bought one and a common dimmer and it
DOES work decently. The first ones were on the expensive side though.
Of course, any fluorescents running on 12 volts are NOT vintage. Just
really useful when trying to save energy, whether from the power grid or
solar panels.
I suppose one should really prefix all discussion of repairs,
restorations, and fixes with the question of whether the work is to
restore the vintage Airstream to the condition when it left the factory,
or to some period in its use or to fix it up so its comfortable and
handy for using the next 40 or 50 years. Certainly the criteria may be
different depending on the goals.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 52
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:03:06 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Buying Axles
When we have used a trailer far beyond its life expectation (e.g.
guarantee + 30 years) we have probably taken on all of the liability
anyway. Suspension modifications that enhance the ride leaving less
vibration to destroy delicate frames and structure should enhance the
longevity of the trailer and reduce the liability exposure. Most of us
do carry vehicular liability insurance for just the occasion when the
unforeseen failure, such as a broken axle, blown tire, or broken hitch
occurs. Not hitting the stops in the suspension is enhancing the safety,
however it is done.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 53
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:08:13 -0400
From: "Jim Stewart" <9stewart@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: free vintage tow vehicle
I believe the Travelall was longer than the Scout and was made in both 1/2
ton and 3/4 ton models.
I've heard it compared to today's Tohoe.
Jim
(Past owner of a '74 Scout II)
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From: <RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:45 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: free vintage tow vehicle
> Yeah, I had decided if it was a 1960's Travelall I could be there in 20
> minutes.
>
> Susan, what I can't figure out is how such a short wheelbased,
> underpowered and lightweight vehicle could pull such a large trailer?
> Anyway, thanks for offering it to the List - I'm sure it'll find a good
> appreciative home.
>
> RJ
> VAC Webmaster
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu [mailto:balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:57 PM
> > To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> > Subject: [VAC] Re: free vintage tow vehicle
> >
> >
> > First one to the house WINS!!
> >
> > Wish I could be in the race. If anyone knows where a 1966/67
> > International
> > Travelall in mint shape on the east coast let me know. I have the tow
> > car for the 1970 Airstream, Ford Country Squire Station Wagon, need
> > something
> > for the 66 Overlander.
> >
> > Paul Waddell
> > WBCCI/VAC
> > 66 Overlander
> > 70 23' LY single
> >
> > Susan Altstatt wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All;
> > >
> > > I'm trying to give away a vintage puller, 1976 International
> > > Scout Traveler,set up for trailer towing. The charities won't
> > > take it, saying it's "too old". Used to tow a 4600# SOB for years.
> >
>
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