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VACList DigestVACList-Digest       Tuesday, June 18, 2002      Issue 338
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Another trailer goes motorhome
        2. Re: Having trouble getting the shell back on my 58 Traveler...
        3. Trailer being auctioned
        4. Re: Having trouble getting the shell back on my 58 Traveler...
        5. Re: Tire pressure indicator caps
        6. Reputable Refurbishers??
        7. Re: Reputable Refurbishers??
        8. Re: Reputable Refurbishers??
        9. Re: Having trouble getting the shell back on my 58 Traveler...
       10. Cross Country Travel
       11. Anyone in VA want to be in a movie?




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Message Number: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:31:47 -0600
From: "Terry O'Neill" <woodfloor@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Another trailer goes motorhome

Here's a link to another result of a consumer that wanted an Airstream
motorhome before they were made:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1837225502

Terry O'Neill
Calgary
66 Trade-Wind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
http://pages.sprint.ca/Streamsite/main.html





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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 02:07:45 -0400
From: "Dash7 (Michigan)" <dash7_@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Having trouble getting the shell back on my 58 Traveler...

Hi Will,

This is a wild guess......

If the driveway/shop floor where the work took place was not absolutely flat 
and level, it may have introduced a slight twist or warp into the frame when 
the coach floor and belly pan were removed.  Installing the new floor and 
belly pan may have then "locked" the distortion into the frame causing it to 
no longer match the shape of the shell.  If this is the case, "ratcheting 
the shell down" to match the frame may put stresses on the shell that could 
have undesirable consequences, like the warping the door opening so that the 
door will no longer fit.  A check of the frame shape or alignment might be 
in order.

Don (MI)


>From: "William Henshall" <willy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>Subject: [VAC] Having trouble getting the shell back on my 58 Traveler...
>Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:33:28 -0700
>
>Hi folks,
>
>Firstly many thanks for help via this list in me going the right way in the
>replacement floor and belly pan on my 58 Traveler.
>
>I do have a big problem right now though and wonder if anyone might be able
>to shed any light?
>
>I have finished  the new floor/new belly pan  after about 8 weekends and
>yesterday spent a frustrating few hours trying to fit the shell back on.
>
>I am pretty sure that the new floor and the u-channels are exactly the same
>shape and dimensions as the old floor. They were all cut out to the old
>floor as a template as accurately as I could.
>
>The problem I am having is a bit like trying to put a favourite pair of
>pants on after a thanksgiving feast - you know that extra 6 pounds mean 
>that
>the zipper has be gently coaxed into action...and when ever you get it done
>up it just pops down again on its own...
>
>There are no obvious extrusions in the way, it all just seems very tight 
>and
>one corner keeps popping up when the other 3 are on
>
>One thing that is different now is that I used .040 for the replacement
>belly pan, and the original belly pan was more like .025 - this means that
>the new pan is much harder to bend as easily and obviously is thicker. It
>all sits and wraps snugly around the u-channel now though, although a lot 
>of
>rubber mallet banging was needed. Now the neighbors 2 streets away are
>coming by to see what is going on :)
>
>I undid the temporary 2x4 cross beam struts, and that seems to have given 
>me
>more bend in the shell generally, although the worry there is now getting
>the shell on true and that the door and windows are not twisted.
>
>I was thinking of getting 2 x 40ft cargo straps and wrapping them around
>middle of the whole trailer over the vertical struts and ratcheting the
>shell down little by little until in place and I can get the rivets in...
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Best to all
>
>Will Henshall
>will@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 08:30:52 -0500
From: "Louis Joyner" <joyner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Trailer being auctioned

For those in search of a '70's Overlander International (double in
midsection, rear bath) in need of attention, one will be auctioned this
Saturday, 6/22 in Friendship, IN (Southeastern IN).  It's a fixer
upper-apparently went unwinterized, and the interior needs tambours,
upholstery, and window treatments.  Clear coat is failing.  But it smells
fine inside, and is clean-ish.  It was abandoned by the previous owner
(deceased), is being sold without title, though a salvage title could be
obtained.

My guess is that there will be little competiton.

That's about all I know.

Auctioneer's website:  www.robinsonauctions.com   Robinson Auction Service,
Orleans, IN  812/865-2365

Louis



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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Having trouble getting the shell back on my 58 Traveler...

I'm watching this thread closely since I'm about 1/2
way through drilling rivets around the lower exterior.
 My plan is to remove the interior panels too though -
do you think this has that much bearing on wether or
not the shell is "true?"

Toby

--- Robert Townsend <rctowns@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> bud cooper told me the same thing - fitting the
> shell back on is the hardest
> part of the whole enterprise... have you considered
> removing the lower
> interior skin panels? this might be a good time to
> do that, and you can
> replace the rivets with Riv-Nuts, and re-insulate
> while you're at it...
> 
> Tuna
> '48 Trailwind (shell off)
> Reno, NV
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Henshall" <willy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList"
> <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:33 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Having trouble getting the shell back
> on my 58 Traveler...
> 
> 
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Firstly many thanks for help via this list in me
> going the right way in
> the
> > replacement floor and belly pan on my 58 Traveler.
> >
> > I do have a big problem right now though and
> wonder if anyone might be
> able
> > to shed any light?
> >
> > I have finished  the new floor/new belly pan 
> after about 8 weekends and
> > yesterday spent a frustrating few hours trying to
> fit the shell back on.
> >
> > I am pretty sure that the new floor and the
> u-channels are exactly the
> same
> > shape and dimensions as the old floor. They were
> all cut out to the old
> > floor as a template as accurately as I could.
> >
> > The problem I am having is a bit like trying to
> put a favourite pair of
> > pants on after a thanksgiving feast - you know
> that extra 6 pounds mean
> that
> > the zipper has be gently coaxed into action...and
> when ever you get it
> done
> > up it just pops down again on its own...
> >
> > There are no obvious extrusions in the way, it all
> just seems very tight
> and
> > one corner keeps popping up when the other 3 are
> on
> >
> > One thing that is different now is that I used
> .040 for the replacement
> > belly pan, and the original belly pan was more
> like .025 - this means that
> > the new pan is much harder to bend as easily and
> obviously is thicker. It
> > all sits and wraps snugly around the u-channel now
> though, although a lot
> of
> > rubber mallet banging was needed. Now the
> neighbors 2 streets away are
> > coming by to see what is going on :)
> >
> > I undid the temporary 2x4 cross beam struts, and
> that seems to have given
> me
> > more bend in the shell generally, although the
> worry there is now getting
> > the shell on true and that the door and windows
> are not twisted.
> >
> > I was thinking of getting 2 x 40ft cargo straps
> and wrapping them around
> > middle of the whole trailer over the vertical
> struts and ratcheting the
> > shell down little by little until in place and I
> can get the rivets in...
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Best to all
> >
> > Will Henshall
> > will@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Message Number: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:39:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Tire pressure indicator caps

Hate to open a can of worms here, but since I know
Tuna is on-list, and there are other experimental
crazies lurking - here goes.

What do they use on the Hummer to constantly check
tire pressure and re-inflate if the tire goes flat?

That would be cool on an Airstream, if only because
it's possible.

Toby

--- "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer"
<geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> My concern is that the "indicating" cap has to
> disable the valve core's
> sealing and so the tire pressure depends on the
> reliability of the
> indicating cap. To me that's a leak about to happen.
> I trust the cap
> less than a valve core...
> 
> Gerald J.
> -- 
> Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson.
> Reproduction by
> permission only.
> 
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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: chip rees <airstream_chip@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Reputable Refurbishers??

Hi everyone- I'm trying to find myself a reputable
airstream restorer/refurbisher in California
(preferably northern Cal.) for a 64 Airstream SI I'm
looking to purchase- any suggestions?  I'm in the bay
area.

Thanks in advance!

-Chip

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Message Number: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:15:57 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Reputable Refurbishers??

chip rees wrote:

>Hi everyone- I'm trying to find myself a reputable
>airstream restorer/refurbisher in California
>(preferably northern Cal.) for a 64 Airstream SI I'm
>looking to purchase- any suggestions?  I'm in the bay
>area.

	Not exactly Northern Ca- (actually in the LA area)- but worth
the drive:
http://www.inlandrv.com


-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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Message Number: 8
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:01:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Reputable Refurbishers??

http://www.vintage-vacations.com

not exactly cheap - though he doesn't claim to be, but
from what I hear, and what I've seen on his site, he
does outstanding work.

Toby

--- Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> chip rees wrote:
> 
> >Hi everyone- I'm trying to find myself a reputable
> >airstream restorer/refurbisher in California
> >(preferably northern Cal.) for a 64 Airstream SI
> I'm
> >looking to purchase- any suggestions?  I'm in the
> bay
> >area.
> 
> 	Not exactly Northern Ca- (actually in the LA area)-
> but worth
> the drive:
> http://www.inlandrv.com
> 
> 
> -- 
> Chris Bryant
> mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
> 
> 
> 
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Message Number: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:04:23 -0700
From: "Robert Townsend" <rctowns@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Having trouble getting the shell back on my 58 Traveler...

i left the forward section of floor attached, and put a couple of 30" pieces
of 2x8 lumber between the inner and outer skins at the wheel-wells (screwed
into place through the existing rivet holes around the wheel-well),
cross-braced with 2x4 lumber.

When i got the thing, the sheetmetal 'outriggers' from the pipe/keel had all
but given way from the door on towards the rear, so the shell was pretty
racked about six ways from sunday... the inner and outer skins attached to
the ribs are holding the basic monocoque shape, so i wouldn't remove all the
inner skin panels at the same time -

The big idea is to keep the front end (from just forward of the door
opening) rigid on the original attachment-points. When the new
truck/frame/sub-floor are ready, i'll roll it under the shell, and lower and
raise it while making the fine adjustments... keeping the door frame square
seems do-able, this way. I'm thinking that keeping the whole shell's
'footprint' square is a matter of taking frequent diagonal measurements
before and after every adjustment.

Rather than just removing the crude 2x4 cross-braces, i'm planning to
replace them with adjustable cross-braces so i can spread the shell or pull
it together at each of the ribs, as i move forward and back, lowering the
shell onto the subfloor 'U'-channel attachment points.

Tuna

----- Original Message -----
From: "Toby Folwick" <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Having trouble getting the shell back on my 58
Traveler...


> I'm watching this thread closely since I'm about 1/2
> way through drilling rivets around the lower exterior.
>  My plan is to remove the interior panels too though -
> do you think this has that much bearing on wether or
> not the shell is "true?"
>
> Toby




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Message Number: 10
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:35:03 -0700
From: "Richard        McFarland" <estatewagons@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Cross Country Travel

Hi - I recently attempted to post my first message on the VAC list site - I
seem to be having a problem with the HTML/plain text portion of my e-mail
program- and I'm trying to adjust that - and I'll try again!

Hello - Just a minute to say hi - I've recently jointed the VAC list and
certainly enjoy reading and learning along with everyone else.
I'm RL McFarland - in Washington State.
I've spent the past 18 years working as a tour director.  Ironically - I've
had little time during those years to enjoy a vacation "on the road" by
myself.  Instead - I've enjoyed knowing that my small family of old trailers
was patiently waiting in my barn for the time when I retired from
travel...so that I could travel!
I might add that while there are a couple of older units in my barn - I'm
still searching for "my" Airstream.
I thought it might be time to offer a couple of thoughts to the List - as a
subject recently came up that relates to my profession as a tour director.
Nick Sowter wrote in from England - regarding his plans to pick up his
Overlander in Spokane, Washington - with a request for information/input on
his route etc.
To date - there has been some very good "specific" information offered.
I can't offer any timely "specific" advice on Nick's route - as I have not
driven across the U.S. since the mid 70's and my job has kept me busy in the
Canadian Rockies, Alaska and Hawaii.
However - I can offer some advice on how to approach those long stretches of
the Mid-West and West from a theoretical approach.  Let's fact it - long
stretches of open terrain exist in many areas of the U.S. and Canada - and
they can be cause for boredom - and my suggestion/solution to this is
generic and universally applicable.  I will admit - due to the fact that my
family has been farming wheat for 4 generations - I've spent a lot of time
around flat farm land. (and I like it...)  (actually we've got a lot of
hills in Eastern Washington...but I'm trying to make a point here...)
No matter where you travel, no matter what the terrain - the
geology/geography that makes up the backdrop is trying to tell a story.
It's like a book - you have to learn how to read it - and when you do - it
will give back a great deal.
Pick up a couple of "roadside geology" books and keep them with you.  You
may end up with more books that you expected - (one always leads to another)
but they will become good companions - and they are great to share with
friends as the years go by.
Specifically for Nick's trip - since he won't be spending a lot of time
taking side trips on his beeline trip from NY to WA and return - I'd
recommend anything on the journey's of Lewis & Clark.  (very early 1800's)
(read before your go...)
As the long haul west of the Mississippi unwinds - one can't help but be
overwhelmed at what the group had to go through during the opening years of
the 19th Century.  (you don't have to retrace the route exactly...to be
impressed)
Another book - (jumping all the way to the mid 1800's) is a classic one.
"The Oregon Trail" by Francis Parkman - it's worth the read.  (again - read
before you go).
Happy Travels.  RL McFarland





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Message Number: 11
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:59:23 -0700
From: Webmaster <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Anyone in VA want to be in a movie?

If interested - these are always fun. Contact the producer direct at:
BIRMEEE@xxxxxxxxxx.com
RJ
VAC Webmaster

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From: BIRMEEE@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:33:08 EDT
To: feedback@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Airstream in VA?

To Whom It May Concern,
    I am filming an independent feature length movie in Roanoke, VA this
July 
and August.  The script calls for a very small, silver Airstream trailer.  I
am looking all over for a small one, to simply tow to the filming location
and film for a day, but I have not been able to find one.  Could you give me
any advice as to where to search or anyone I could contact who might be
interested in having their Airstream filmed in a movie, someone nearby
Southwest VA?  Thanks you so much for your time.

Sincerely,
John Birmingham




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