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VACList DigestVACList-Digest       Wednesday, June 12, 2002      Issue 332
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Re: Replacement Rims
        2. Avion C-10
        3. Uni-Solar flexible mats (panels)
        4. Re: Uni-Solar flexible mats (panels)
        5. Re: Uni-Solar flexible mats (panels)
        6. Re: Recommended Reading
        7. Weeping pressure relief valve?
        8. Re: Recommended Reading
        9. Re: Weeping pressure relief valve?
       10. 66-67 parts
       11. Re: Weeping pressure relief valve?
       12. Re: please advise on clearcoating small areas
       13. Re: flexible solar panels?
       14. Re: 
       15. good flow--but what about the pressure?
       16. Re: flexible solar panels?
       17. Re: 
       18. Re: flexible solar panels?
       19. Re: good flow--but what about the pressure?
       20. Re: flexible solar panels?
       21. Re: flexible solar panels?
       22. Re: Van as tow vehicle
       23. Grover Products compressor on 59 Ambassador International
       24. Re: flexible solar panels?
       25. Re: flexible solar panels?
       26. Re: Grover Products compressor on 59 Ambassador International
       27. Re: Van as tow vehicle
       28. Re: Grover Products compressor




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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:20:02 -0400
From: Jim Dunmyer <jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Replacement Rims

Bob,
  You can see that a drop center rim is a drop center rim with the tire 
mounted. Go out and look at a few steel wheels on various trailers and 
even cars & trucks and you'll get the picture. Visit a tire shop and 
look at the wheels w/o tires and you'll be able to get a picture of a 
drop-center rim from the 'inside'.

I have no idea why your trailer might be equipped one way and someone 
else's another.

                          <<Jim>>

My Airstream wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Dunmyer" <jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Replacement Rims
> 
> 
> 
>>Bob,
>>  Gerald Johnson described a drop center rim quite well, I thought. It's
>>just what he said: the center of the wheel is "lower" (much smaller
>>diameter) than the part where the bead seats.
>>
> 
> So if I'm interpreting this correctly, you can't see whether you have a drop
> center rim while a tire is on the rim. Yes?  But you can easily see a split
> rim, because the split is visible on the outside of the rim. Yes?
> 
> The question remains why does my Airstream 66 Safari come with Drop Rims and
> Shawn's 66 Safari has split rims?  Am I missing something?
> 
> Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari
> Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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                             <<mailto:jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>>



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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:06:49 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Avion C-10

Back before I totalled my 66 Ford F-250 I was considering an Avion C-10
camper for short excursions.  I also thought it would look cool while
pulling an Airstream.  I placed a couple of ads on the web and a respondent
just phoned.

There is an Avion C-10 available in Florida.  The guys name is Bob (not this
Bob) and he stated that all systems worked well.  Price was negotiable.
Anyone interested call (386) 684-3705.

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA




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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:23:56 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Uni-Solar flexible mats (panels)

on 06/11/02 2:03 PM, myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:
> 
> I am planning to install solar panels but definitely not the rigid kind.  I
> already know that they are the most efficient but I don't want a rigid flat
> panel on top of my coach.  I have chosen Uni-Solar flexible mats (panels).
> They are designed to follow the curve of the coach and can be fastened with
> grommets that are built into the mat.  I estimate that I can put three 32
> watt panels overhead, one aft and two forward of the newly installed
> Fantastic Vent.  I understand and accept that I will never get all of the
> curved panel to see the sun but there will always be a percentage charging.
> My lifestyle is such that I am conservative in my use of electricity.
> 
Bob, 

One of the installation requirements for rigid solar panels is to provide
sufficient space beneath them and the roof for cooling purposes. Is that not
a factor with Uni-Solar flexible mats? I'm asking. I don't know the answer.

Terry
mailto:tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net

 



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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:39:17 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Uni-Solar flexible mats (panels)

Terry Tyler wrote:
> One of the installation requirements for rigid solar panels is to provide
> sufficient space beneath them and the roof for cooling purposes. Is that
not
> a factor with Uni-Solar flexible mats? I'm asking. I don't know the
answer.

Terry,
    My research found that there is a backing on the Uni-Solar mat that
allows it to be placed directly on the surface of choice.  The one thing
that surprised me in looking at dozens of sites is that Uni-Solar seems to
have a monopoly on this flexible technology.  A bit of a miracle in these
days.
Bob



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Message Number: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:59:42 -0500
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Uni-Solar flexible mats (panels)

Terry,

     I use a Uni-solar on my trailer, and also on my sailboat, to keep the
batteries charged up.  In the case of the trailer, I just throw it up on the
front window guard while at a campsite, and in the case of the boat, it is
tied around the boom.  In neither case is there space under the panels, and
I have not had a problem.

-Tom

>
> One of the installation requirements for rigid solar panels is to provide
> sufficient space beneath them and the roof for cooling purposes. Is that
not
> a factor with Uni-Solar flexible mats? I'm asking. I don't know the
answer.
>
> Terry
> mailto:tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>




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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:43:20 -0600
From: "Terry O'Neill" <woodfloor@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Re: Recommended Reading

Welcome to the fold Shawn.

I find my most valuable book for my 66 TradeWind is "Trailer Owner's Manual"
Lambert Eliel 1969
This is not an Airstream manual but a 253 pg publication of Trail-R-Club of
America.

In this publication you can find the info you need without sifting through
all the non-relevant newer technology of later publications.

I think I found mine on ebay. I see one is available currently for $12.50 at
http://www.abebooks.com/
Search under title.


Take Care
Terry O'Neill
Calgary
66 Trade-Wind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
http://pages.sprint.ca/Streamsite/main.html

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn Clarry" <sclarry@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:23 PM
Subject: [VAC] Recommended Reading


> Hello all!
>
> As a newbie to both Airstreams and trailers in general, is there a good
> beginner's book to help me to become familiar with the systems that I need
> to know about?
>
> I keep reading this list and seeing things about black water, grey water,
> blue (Tidy Bowl) water (just kidding) and having never owned a trailer I
> think I'd benefit from a basic RV maintenance book.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Shawn Clarry
> '66 Safari
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:52:12 -0400
From: "Rick Langer" <farreach@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Weeping pressure relief valve?

The valve is located on the city water inlet line just past a bell shaped
valve which I think is the pressure regulator. As I look down at it, i see a
black washer like disc with a small hole in the center. Under this is a
threaded insert with a slot accross the top and can be turned with a
screwdriver. This is where the water is coming out. Should this be closed
off with a cap? To add to my confussion, there is a foot long piece of
tubing coming out of the side of the valve body, pointing straight up.
Can anyone help me here? Where's the water suppose to be released (tube or
top of valve)? What should I do, ie. service the valve, repalce it or
eliminate it? Where can I get a replacement?
Thanks a bunch,
Rick langer
'66 GlobeTrotter
#3847,VAC,TCT




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Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:20:39 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Recommended Reading

Recommended Trailer Maint & Vintage Airstream reading list:
http://www.airstream.org/reading.html

More Water system info:
http://www.airstream.org/faqs.html

RJ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sclarry@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:sclarry@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 3:24 PM
> To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Subject: [VAC] Recommended Reading
> Hello all! 
> As a newbie to both Airstreams and trailers in general, is 
> there a good
> beginner's book to help me to become familiar with the 
> systems that I need
> to know about?
> I keep reading this list and seeing things about black water, 
> grey water,
> blue (Tidy Bowl) water (just kidding) and having never owned 
> a trailer I
> think I'd benefit from a basic RV maintenance book.
> Thanks again!
> Shawn Clarry
> '66 Safari
 


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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:53:31 -0400
From: Jim Dunmyer <jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Weeping pressure relief valve?

Rick,
  This is no doubt the pressure relief valve. You might try 
dissassembling and cleaning it. Its operation should become obvious when 
you get it apart.

                             <<Jim>>

Rick Langer wrote:

> The valve is located on the city water inlet line just past a bell shaped
> valve which I think is the pressure regulator. As I look down at it, i see a
> black washer like disc with a small hole in the center. Under this is a
> threaded insert with a slot accross the top and can be turned with a
> screwdriver. This is where the water is coming out. Should this be closed
> off with a cap? To add to my confussion, there is a foot long piece of
> tubing coming out of the side of the valve body, pointing straight up.
> Can anyone help me here? Where's the water suppose to be released (tube or
> top of valve)? What should I do, ie. service the valve, repalce it or
> eliminate it? Where can I get a replacement?
> Thanks a bunch,
> Rick langer
> '66 GlobeTrotter
> #3847,VAC,TCT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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                                 <<jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>>
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                             <<mailto:jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>>



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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:53:46 -0600
From: "Terry O'Neill" <woodfloor@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: 66-67 parts

I have an opportunity to pick up some spare parts. Can anybody tell me if a
black water tank and toilet from a 67 Overlander would be the same as in my
66 TradeWind?

Thanks for any feedback.

Best Regards
Terry O'Neill
Calgary
66 Trade-Wind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
http://pages.sprint.ca/Streamsite/main.html

Terry O'Neill
Calgary
66 Trade-Wind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
http://pages.sprint.ca/Streamsite/main.html





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Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:20:55 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Weeping pressure relief valve?

Rick. The pressure relief valve, over time, may start to seep. Replacing them 
is the simple fix. The clear tubing from that valve should go through the 
underbelly, so that if it pops off, the water will be diverted to the ground. 
Capping that valve will defeat the excessive pressure purpose of that valve.
Some Airstream dealers may have that part.

Andy
inlandrv.com 


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Message Number: 12
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:24:12 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: please advise on clearcoating small areas

Clear coat is one of those things that don't work out in do it yourself 
world.  The skin prep and proprietary two part materials required are 
out of our league.  The UV, weather exposure and expansion/contraction 
of the skin surface will destroy small reapplications in a matter of 
months.  Unless you are able to take your trailer to P&G in Ohio or 
OasisRV in Arizona, you're pretty much limited to occasional polishing 
or the re-oxidation look.
Bummer,huh?
RJ
VintageAirstream.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fitzjo1@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:fitzjo1@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:42 AM
> To: fitzjo1@xxxxxxxxxx.com; VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Subject: [VAC] please advise on clearcoating small areas
>  
> I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a good material
> for doing a new clear coat.  I would also like to do
> this in small sections at a time.  I'm thinking I
> could remove a small section of the old clear coat and
> then immediately reapply something else.  This would
> let me do it in little bits as time allows (I have
> little kids around the house).
> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> Thanks, 
> Jon in SC
> 68 Overlander


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Message Number: 13
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:24:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: jon fitz <fitzjo1@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: flexible solar panels?

Cruiser Bob--you've got my attention.  Please tell us
where to find flexible solar panels.

Jon in SC
68 Overlander

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Message Number: 14
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:24:57 -0500
From: "Thomas, George C (N-YOH)" <george.c.thomas@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 




 Bob,
  My 66' Safari does not have split rims. It has the drop center rims like
yours does. Mine are the orginal rims because the coach has been in my
family since new.

George
66' Safari


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Message Number: 15
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:54:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: jon fitz <fitzjo1@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: good flow--but what about the pressure?

I had a restoration moment last night.  I thought
someone might get a chuckle out of it.

I completed the re-installation of my refurbished PAR
pump.  Naturally, I forgot some hoseclamps.  These
mistakes were easy enough to locate--just find the
puddles!

I added the missing clamps and restarted the pump.  It
was running and running. Was the pressure switch bad,
or was it still not building pressure? After a minute
or so of looking for leaks near the installation, I
shut it off.  

On the way to the switch I saw a little water on the
carpet.  It was at the rear end of the cover that
hides the supply line in the "living room."  I thought
water might have flowed along that passage from the
earlier leak.  

I got the clever idea to tilt the trailer forward and
stop this puddle.  So, I got out to lower the jack. 
There were gallons of water running out of the belly
pan!

It turns out the previous owner had removed the trim
piece, chopped the copper line off about halfway into
the passage and then carefully replaced the trim (go
figure).  The line was also cut and terminated near
the sink, but this was hidden by the furnace.  So,
city water worked fine, but the pump just ran out onto
the floor.

Never a dull moment!

Jon in SC
68 Overlander

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Message Number: 16
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:04:16 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: flexible solar panels?

The best sources of solar panels are the small, independent dealers.  Check
out the yellow page listings and call around for prices.

I have two 64 watt UniSolar panels on my rig, and got them from a fellow
whose "store" was in his garage.  I paid $360.00 each, versus $500.00 each
from a larger business.  Better service, same warranty.

Roger

Roger Hightower, N7KT
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net




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Message Number: 17
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:26:21 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: 

George wrote
>   My 66' Safari does not have split rims. It has the drop center rims like
> yours does. Mine are the orginal rims because the coach has been in my
> family since new.

George,
    Thanks for the second opinion.  While not the original owner, I have a
copy of the original manual for the 66 Safari.  Under specifications for
wheels it says 2 - 15" Drop Center, under Tires it says 2 - 7.00 x 15"
8-ply nylon, tubless.  That's what guided me during restoration while up in
Oregon.  I think that the occurence of "Split Rims" were a dealer or after
market conversion . . . at least on our 66 Safaris.

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA




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Message Number: 18
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:28:14 -0700
From: "Sherry" <sherryhayes@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: flexible solar panels?

> Jon asked -

> Please tell us
> where to find flexible solar panels.
> Jon -

I've been using a UniSolar flexible panel on my '63 Bambi for over 5 years.
I keep it under my mattress and just throw it on top of the trailer when I'm
parked. You can see what they look like at
http://www.ovonic.com/unitedsolar/flex.html. There is lots of information on
solar panels on Tom Patterson's website. Do a search for UniSolar at
http://www.tompatterson.com.

Happy Trails - Sherry
'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
>




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Message Number: 19
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:32:27 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: good flow--but what about the pressure?

jon fitz wrote:

>It turns out the previous owner had removed the trim
>piece, chopped the copper line off about halfway into
>the passage and then carefully replaced the trim (go
>figure).  The line was also cut and terminated near
>the sink, but this was hidden by the furnace.  So,
>city water worked fine, but the pump just ran out onto
>the floor.

	The funny part is that I have a friend who works for a large
SOB dealer- for a while, he was doing the PDI (pre delivery
inspection). While doing that on a large, expensive 5th wheel, he
filled the water tank, turned on the pump, and started on to the next
check while the pump primed itself.
	A few minutes later, he opened one of the "basement"
compartments, and let out many gallons of water (pump not connected,
pumping water into the belly).


-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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Message Number: 20
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:32:36 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: flexible solar panels?

Jon,
    I have gotten some off list queries on the Uni-Solar.  I have done a lot
of web research on flexible panels and Uni-Solar appears to be monopolizing
this field.  Do a lookup on "Flexible solar panels" using the quotes and
you'll get a load of different vendors, specials for buying four panels at
once and technical information.  Look up "Uni-Solar" and you'll get a
slightly more targeted group, but I haven't yet found any alternative.
Owners who have them seem to like their versatility and they seem like an
elegant solution to the Airstream's top surface.  If you do come up with
competitive brands, let me know :)

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA

Jon wrote:
> Cruiser Bob--you've got my attention.  Please tell us
> where to find flexible solar panels.




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Message Number: 21
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:33:04 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: flexible solar panels?

Roger,
    What dimensions are your 64 watt Uni-Solar panels?

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari 
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA  

From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> I have two 64 watt UniSolar panels on my rig, and got them from a fellow
> whose "store" was in his garage.  I paid $360.00 each, 



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Message Number: 22
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:46:25 -0500
From: "Louis Joyner" <joyner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Van as tow vehicle

I had all but decided to buy a '99 Suburban as a tow vehicle for our '64
Overlander (26', 3900 lbs. dry, 400 lb. tongue wt.) when, hanging out at the
dealer waiting for the Suburban to be brought around, I wandered over to the
area where they kept the GMC Savanas.  Now that is a roomy vehicle, an
attribute that the Suburban has from side to side, but is limited on in the
rear seats where four boys and a couple of dogs are going to be stowed.

An opinion from someone with experience with these or other full-size vans
would be appreciated, from the standpoint of towing, and as a family hauler.
I know that others use them, but they are far less common than trucks and
Suburbans.  Don't want a conversion van, and don't feel the need of the
"SLT" model, but a few bells and whistles are nice.

Thanks

Louis J.



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Message Number: 23
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:59:52 -0700
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Grover Products compressor on 59 Ambassador International

Greetings all,
The Grover Products 12 volt compressor used on the water system of my 59
Ambassador International isn't working. I removed the crankcase portion from
the end of the motor and discovered a pile of rust and aluminum corrosion
stopping the motor/connecting rod from spinning. I cleaned up the motor and
the crankcase and got the motor to run. Does anyone know if there is
supposed to be oil in this crankcase and what type would be used. I suspect
that some of what would normally be there will likely over time work its way
into the water system through normal use. If I used motor oil, contamination
will surely occur.  I'm wondering if vegetable oil could be used. I'm not
sure how great the lubricating properties are with vegetable oil however I
remember people using some form of vegetable oil in two stroke motorcycles
in the 70's.
Thanks for the input,
Colin Hyde
57 Sovereign of the Road
59 Ambassador International




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Message Number: 24
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:56:44 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: flexible solar panels?

Bob,

The Uni-Solar 64 watt panels are 30" wide by 54" long.  These are the rigid,
framed panels.

Roger Hightower, N7KT
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net




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Message Number: 25
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:14:33 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: flexible solar panels?

From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> Bob,
>
> The Uni-Solar 64 watt panels are 30" wide by 54" long.  These are the
rigid,
> framed panels.

Now I understand.  Because I never saw a 64 watt spec on their flexible
panels.

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA




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Message Number: 26
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:20:31 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Grover Products compressor on 59 Ambassador International

If there was a seal on the air pressure pump between the motor,
crankcase, and cylinder its rotted long ago. The corrosion you find is
the result of condensation. Some vegetable oils have had a long history
of use as lubricants, but the side effects of castor oil on WW1 pilots
was legendary. These days, soybean oil is considered a decent lubricant,
I don't know about corn oil, all I have tends to harden with air
exposure. That can be a problem with all vegetable oils.

It might be time for a new compressor with modern seals, or to convert
to an on-demand water pump to make better use of the volume of the water
tank.

Gerald J.
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson. Reproduction by
permission only.


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Message Number: 27
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:05:36 -0400
From: "Lewis A. Lindner" <llindner@xxxxxxxxxx.service.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Van as tow vehicle

6/12/2002 7:46:25 AM, Louis Joyner <joyner@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:

>
>An opinion from someone with experience with these or other full-size vans
>

Have been towing a '72 Safari for two years with a "Custom Craft" conversion which is 
built on the Chevie 3500 twin of the Savannah (127" WB), especially for the purpose 
of towing.  Obviously this is rather extreme overkill, but experience has been entirely 
positive -- even with no sway bars or equalizer bars, it is entirely too easy to forget the 
a/s is there.  Never any problem with passing trucks, etc.  In short, totally boring -- 
which is what I want.

                      -- Lew #4239

'72 Safari
bicycle



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Message Number: 28
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:57:21 -0700
From: Webmaster <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Grover Products compressor

Grover still makes that bad boy:
http://www.groverproducts.com/horns/horninfo/large/Model1167.jpg
They might be able to help.
RJ
VintageAirstream.com

> From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:59:52 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] Grover Products compressor on 59 Ambassador International
> 
> Greetings all,
> The Grover Products 12 volt compressor used on the water system of my 59
> Ambassador International isn't working. I removed the crankcase portion from
> the end of the motor and discovered a pile of rust and aluminum corrosion
> stopping the motor/connecting rod from spinning. I cleaned up the motor and
> the crankcase and got the motor to run. Does anyone know if there is
> supposed to be oil in this crankcase and what type would be used. I suspect
> that some of what would normally be there will likely over time work its way
> into the water system through normal use. If I used motor oil, contamination
> will surely occur.  I'm wondering if vegetable oil could be used. I'm not
> sure how great the lubricating properties are with vegetable oil however I
> remember people using some form of vegetable oil in two stroke motorcycles
> in the 70's.
> Thanks for the input,
> Colin Hyde



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