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VACList DigestVACList-Digest       Monday, June 3, 2002      Issue 323
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Re: 
        2. Re: New cabinet doors for 70's A/S
        3. New cabinet doors for 70's A/S
        4. Fw: Generators
        5. Re: New cabinet doors for 70's A/S
        6. Re: 67 Caravel Utility Compartment
        7. Re: Fw: Generators
        8. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
        9. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
       10. Re: Fw: Generators
       11. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
       12. Re: Fw: Generators
       13. Re: the VAC List
       14. Re: California Room Wanted!
       15. 3rd Annual VAC Rio Vista-Delta Rally photos
       16. Dometic Frig Questions
       17. Tambour
       18. Re: 3rd Annual VAC Rio Vista-Delta Rally photos
       19. Re: Fw: Generators
       20. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
       21. Tankless Water Heaters?
       22. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
       23. Bambi battery
       24. Re: Fw: Generators




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Message Number: 1
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 02:10:57 -0400
From: "bovi" <bovi2@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: 

Haven't received any news in a week. What's up? Bob  



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Message Number: 2
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:24:16 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: New cabinet doors for 70's A/S

Tim:

replacing the tambours is really pretty easy.....

Daisy

Tim Shephard wrote:
> 
> As many of you know, I have a '71 Safari.
> 
> The tambour doors are non existant except for the upper ones.  I have no
> intrest in trying to replace the tambour.
> 
> So I have decided to make some regular type doors with hinges.  I was
> wondering if anyone else has done this already and had some advice and
> photos?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Tim
> tim@telecom-pros.com
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> eFax (508) 590-0302
> 
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 23:07:38 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: New cabinet doors for 70's A/S

Hey Tim, 

If you've ever seen a serviceman replace them, you know it's one of the
easiest jobs going. You're like me - a glutton for punishment - even when
it's not necessary.  It's a good thing I never pay myself an hourly wage per
job.  

Terry

++++++++++++

on 06/02/02 10:24 PM, jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:
> 
> As many of you know, I have a '71 Safari.
> 
> The tambour doors are non existant except for the upper ones.  I have no
> interest in trying to replace the tambour.



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Message Number: 4
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 00:12:04 -0400
From: Jim Stewart <9stewart@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Fw: Generators



      Does anyone know the generator size which would be required
     to power a Coleman Mini Mach airconditioner?The unit requires
     8.2 amps, 1000 watts and generates 7100 btu's. I have not been
     able to locate startup electrical surge requirement. Interior
     lights, tv, etc. would operate off the battery while the
     generator was in use, so sizing the generator would be
     determined just by the startup requirements of the
     airconditioner. I like the features of the Honda EU2000i but
     don't know if 2000 watts max. will start my unit.
     Thankyou.Jim'61 Bambi



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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 21:23:19 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: Re: New cabinet doors for 70's A/S

Thanks Terry & Daisy,

I just assumed they were no longer available.  Any idea how much they cost?

-Tim
tim@telecom-pros.com
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Tyler" <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 8:07 PM
Subject: [VAC] New cabinet doors for 70's A/S


> Hey Tim,
>
> If you've ever seen a serviceman replace them, you know it's one of the
> easiest jobs going. You're like me - a glutton for punishment - even when
> it's not necessary.  It's a good thing I never pay myself an hourly wage
per
> job.
>
> Terry
>
> ++++++++++++
>
> on 06/02/02 10:24 PM, jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:
> >
> > As many of you know, I have a '71 Safari.
> >
> > The tambour doors are non existant except for the upper ones.  I have no
> > interest in trying to replace the tambour.
>
>
>
>
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>
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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 23:27:01 -0700
From: "Dave Huffman" <huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 67 Caravel Utility Compartment

My wife and I just returned from OUR first 'long' Airstream trip -- 2-1/2
weeks, 3000 miles from Longview, WA (just north of Portland, OR) to Montana,
here and there in western Montanta.  Tow vehicle is 6 cyl. '97 Toyota
LandCruiser -- very satisfactory; had to drop to 2nd gear in some long grade
situations, seldom passed by any other RV or heavy truck in this situation.
Fastest I tow is 70, but some on this list caution that these trailers were
never made to cruise steadily at today's highway speeds.  I prefer 65mph
max.
    Always a few comments from observers on Airstream trips; this time:
"they sure tow well, don't they?"   Yes, even in the storms we encountered
when the Shelby area roads were closed!
    Airstream surprise on this trip was we saw more current Strems than
vintage ones!   Maybe a dozen current on the roads or in campgrounds, only a
couple of vintage Streams did we see anywhere!  (2nd Airstream remark on
this trip from a current Stream owner: "I think they [Airstreams] last
longer."
    Great trailer, great towcar, great trip.

Any Cons?  Yes, Airstream's '67 version of a utility compartment!
1)  get one your knee(s) to unscrew the cap under the compartment!
2) bump electric switches removing hose/cable from the compartment  ("Why
don't any of the lights work?")
3) feeding cable/hose through the bottom port -- pulling them back though to
leave camp.
4) no shorts yet from hose metal parts contacting battery terminals, but...
    So I noted what the world is doing in '02, and you know what?... they
ain't bending over much at all!  Yea, external water connection (looks like
a cinch with the part readily available at almost any RV store.  Small
enough not to ruin the appearance of a Stream).
    But the electric.  Most trailers feature a plastic door less than a foor
square, featuring a hole for the elec. cable to exit.  Is this a separate
box installed against the outer trailer wall?
So where to put such a thing in a '67 Caravel?
    First of all, I use two golf cart batteries, so they fill much of the
present Util.Compt. space.
But there is plenty of room in a compartment just forward of the Util.
Compt.  This space is storage, accessable via the seat cushion over this
area -- just aft of the water tank.
    Has anyone tried this?  Can the cover be matched to aluminum?... other
than painting it?

Huff   --  more questions coming, but one topic at a time.



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Message Number: 7
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 00:34:50 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: Generators

Generally the common types of AC motors take 5 to 6 times running
current for starting. So 120 volts 8.2 amps running means 120 volts 49.2
amps starting. 6 KVA surge. Often the starting current for A/C is listed
as "locked rotor" current.

It is possible to make Ac motors that start on no more current than
running but those aren't generally compatible with being hermetically
sealed in refrigerant.

Gerald J.
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson. Reproduction by
permission only.


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Message Number: 8
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 02:50:19 -0700
From: Rik & Susan Beeson <rik@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

Did anyone ever mention what make and model tankless water heater Airstream
uses/used? Does anyone know which one?

BTW, I have installed the smallest Paloma, the PH-5, in a number of trailers.
They are excellent. However, I'm not sure that they still make the little
PH-5.

Best regards,

Rik

Roy Lashway wrote:

> You should call Airstream as they at one time offered the tankless heater
> as an option. A friend got a new 34ft unit three years ago and he had
> specified one.



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Message Number: 9
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:13:02 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

Rik & Susan Beeson wrote:

>Did anyone ever mention what make and model tankless water heater Airstream
>uses/used? Does anyone know which one?
<<..>>
	I'm not sure, but AFAIK, the Precision Temp is the only
current model that is certified for RV use (though I could easily be
wrong).
http://www.precisiontemp.com/RV-500Page1.html

-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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Message Number: 10
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:16:25 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Generators

Jim Stewart wrote:

>
>
>      Does anyone know the generator size which would be required
>     to power a Coleman Mini Mach airconditioner?The unit requires
>     8.2 amps, 1000 watts and generates 7100 btu's. I have not been
>     able to locate startup electrical surge requirement. Interior
>     lights, tv, etc. would operate off the battery while the
>     generator was in use, so sizing the generator would be
>     determined just by the startup requirements of the
>     airconditioner. I like the features of the Honda EU2000i but
>     don't know if 2000 watts max. will start my unit.

	I would say the EU2000 would run that easily- I've heard
reports that under ideal conditions, it will actually start amd run a
13,500 BTU unit.
	About the best place pricewisw is Mayberry's
http://www.mayberrys.com/ - Don (Mayberry- I think) is good about
answering questions- he might even gaurentee whether it will do the
job.

-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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Message Number: 11
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 05:10:27 -0700
From: Tuna <rctowns@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

"Reliant" - I think they were called. One came up on E*bay some time ago,
advertised as an 'Airstream original'... It looked pretty dinky to me. I'm
going for the PrecisionTemp, myself, when the time comes... anyone know what
they go for?
Tuna

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik & Susan Beeson" <rik@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:50 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Tankless Water Heaters?


> Did anyone ever mention what make and model tankless water heater
Airstream
> uses/used? Does anyone know which one?
>
> BTW, I have installed the smallest Paloma, the PH-5, in a number of
trailers.
> They are excellent. However, I'm not sure that they still make the little
> PH-5.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rik
>
> Roy Lashway wrote:
>
> > You should call Airstream as they at one time offered the tankless
heater
> > as an option. A friend got a new 34ft unit three years ago and he had
> > specified one.
>
>
>
>
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>
>



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Message Number: 12
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 08:28:28 -0700
From: James Clark <jec1938@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: Generators

At 12:12 AM 6/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:


>       I like the features of the Honda EU2000i but
>      don't know if 2000 watts max. will start my unit.
>      Thankyou.Jim'61 Bambi
>

Jim :
The Honda 2000 has a current spec.. Without checking I would expect at 
least 16 amps... If the AC will run on a 15 amp fuse, I would be confident 
you could run the AC With the H2000... You might have to turn off the 
electronic idle controls that slows the generator down quite a bit to save 
gas.. The response of the control on my 3000 was such that the unit would 
start the AC from a not being used condition, but would not be able to 
start the AC when the thermostat called for a restart... Killing the idle 
control caused the generator to idle a little faster and that was all that 
was needed to make a successful system...There is more to getting the 
system working than just checking the numbers....

Good Luck
Jim



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Message Number: 13
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 10:05:52 -0400
From: "Sissy Brown" <SissyB@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: the VAC List

I haven't been receiving the LIST lately -- is something wrong, or has the
digest been discontinued?
Sissy B




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Message Number: 14
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 09:40:53 -0500
From: "Thomas, George C (N-YOH)" <george.c.thomas@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!

Hi Bob,

I heve been off the list for a few days and I don't know if you have gotten
your answer to your California room yet. I was in Everett, Wa about 10 years
ago in a RV park and there was a gentlemen that had a room that was next to
his Airstream. It was an alumimum screen room that he had He modified
himself. The ends were molded to the curvature of his Airstream with a soft
rubber bulb seal on the curved sides and top of his structure. The rear had
about a 2ft high peice along the bottom which served as skirting and added
for strength. On the bottom he had a seal much like you see on garage doors
and wheels that would raised up and down with a foot peddle. They raised the
whole room up about 2 inches and then he simply moved it away from his
trailer when he went camping. When he returned he just moved it back against
his trailer and the bulb seal kept the rain out. The room was about 12ft
long and about 10ft wide. He had the whole thing attached with bolts and
wing-nut because he went to Ca during the Winter and he could take it with
him. It was really easy to move. This gentleman was in his late 60's to
early 70's and he moved it all by himself and even showed me how he did it
If you need more info or I can be of anymore hepl e-mail me off list. 

George
66' Safari
George.C.Thomas@xxxxxxxxxx.com



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Message Number: 15
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 08:26:41 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: 3rd Annual VAC Rio Vista-Delta Rally photos

I don't remember seeing this posted, so I apologize if it's redundant.

Check out the rally report of the Rio Vista-Delta rally at:

http://www.airstream.net/rallies/02-Delta/index.html

If you've not been to one of these California rallies, you've really missed
out on a great time.

A Blatant pitch:  Try to meet the Rocky Mountain bunch at Estes Park, CO in
August.  Details on the VAC website (http://www.airstream.net)

Roger

Roger Hightower, N7KT
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net




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Message Number: 16
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:29:18 -0500
From: "Jeff Griffin" <mrfurious007@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Dometic Frig Questions

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Message Number: 17
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 11:56:20 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Tambour

Tim, 

Why don't you rattle Oasis RV's cage in Tucson? Ask for Jay and tell him I
remembered he has tambour by the roll and can ship it to you tomorrow
morning. <grin> He'll ask a couple questions about color and length, so have
that in mind before calling. He's at 800.658.58663.

If you haven't checked out Tom Patterson's web site for "tambour," there are
many postings on the topic. Go to <www.tompatterson.com>. He has a slick
search engine in place. If you have a problem with it, go directly to Tom
with an email <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net> and ask him what you're doing wrong.

Have fun, 

Terry
1977 31' Excella 50
and others





on 06/03/02 12:23 AM, tim@telecom-pros.com wrote:

> Thanks Terry & Daisy,
> 
> I just assumed they were no longer available.  Any idea how much they cost?



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Message Number: 18
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 08:56:21 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: 3rd Annual VAC Rio Vista-Delta Rally photos

I hadn't advertised it yet as I still have to complete the 60+ photo 
section that accompanies it.  Should have that done by the end of the 
week.  Taking so long because I'm learning a new scripting language 
(PHP) to help display al these pictures.  Should help out and speed up 
all future rally reports.
Later,
RJ 
VAC Webmaster

> -----Original Message-----
> From: n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net [mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:27 AM
> To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Subject: [VAC] 3rd Annual VAC Rio Vista-Delta Rally photos
> 
> 
> I don't remember seeing this posted, so I apologize if it's redundant.
> 
> Check out the rally report of the Rio Vista-Delta rally at:
> 
> http://www.airstream.net/rallies/02-Delta/index.html
> 
> If you've not been to one of these California rallies, you've 
> really missed
> out on a great time.
> 


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Message Number: 19
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:14:42 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: Generators

The critical current specification is the surge current for starting
motors. I compute it can take up to 49 amps to start the A/C. Some
generators have a much larger surge rating than others. Checking the
right numbers can show whether the generator will run the A/C or not.
You need to compare the locked rotor current of the fan and compressor
to the short term surge capacity of the generator. If the generator has
at least the surge rating of those two locked rotor currents added, then
it will start the A/C. If not, it won't.

The surge current capacity of the generator depends on its design,
including its governor, its generator windings, and its generator
regulator.

Gerald J.
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson. Reproduction by
permission only.


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Message Number: 20
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:33:06 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

From: "Chris Bryant" <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Tankless Water Heaters?


> the Precision Temp is the only
> current model that is certified for RV use (though I could easily be
> wrong).> http://www.precisiontemp.com/RV-500Page1.html
> Chris Bryant
After lots of research and a couple of owner recommendations (one was on VAC
list) I'm going with the RV-500.  It's a bit pricey at $829 but it fits in
the same height compartment as my 9 gallon Bowen.  That's 15" high.
Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA





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Message Number: 21
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:39:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Tankless Water Heaters?

$829?

wow, those things increased about $300 in price in the
last 2 years.

amazing.

> After lots of research and a couple of owner
> recommendations (one was on VAC
> list) I'm going with the RV-500.  It's a bit pricey
> at $829 but it fits in
> the same height compartment as my 9 gallon Bowen. 
> That's 15" high.


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Message Number: 22
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:52:19 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

Yeah Toby,
    They are pricey, but as has been mentioned, I think they have been
developed (or upgraded) to be RV safe.  I had a small Paloma for 3 years on
Maui.  It was in a Streamline which had a large undercabinet space that we
vented outside.  The hot water flow was constant but it did generate heat.
My main problem with Paloma in my Airstream is that the units are too tall
to fit in the spaces where they make sense.  In addition to physical height
I considered the venting and that heat rises.  The RV-500 vents outward.  I
am going to set mine up to "vent/breath" out the existing removable water
heater access door.  I will probably make larger ventilation openings to
dissipate the heat.

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Toby Folwick" <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: [VAC] Tankless Water Heaters?


> $829?
>
> wow, those things increased about $300 in price in the
> last 2 years.
>
> amazing.
>
> > After lots of research and a couple of owner
> > recommendations (one was on VAC
> > list) I'm going with the RV-500.  It's a bit pricey
> > at $829 but it fits in
> > the same height compartment as my 9 gallon Bowen.
> > That's 15" high.
>
>
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Message Number: 23
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 11:56:20 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Bambi battery

Hi Dick,

My two deep cycle marine batteries are in standard plastic battery cases.
There was a "punch out" hole in each cover which I used for a hose of  the
same size as the punch out (about 1/4 inch). I used hose clamps on the
inside of each cover to keep the ends in the battery cases. Both short hoses
from each battery were routed over the battery case covers and plugged into
a plastic "T" with tapered ends (again about 1/4 or 3/8 inch).

On the single end of the "T", I connected another hose and ran it to the
sidewall of the trailer where I had drilled a hole and slipped in (tight
fit) a piece of copper tubing from my spare parts stash box. I had also
coated the copper tubing with blue lock tite (probably overkill) before
inserting it into the side wall. I then attached the hose to the copper
tubing where it protruded inside the wall and used another hose clamp.

The vent tube not only is located at the top of each battery box, but the
angle of ascent from the "T" toward the wall is uphill. I may be wrong, but
this seems like it takes care of ventilation issues.

This installation has been in place for 5 years, none of the hoses have
become disconnected and the trailer has been used extensively each year
(including several cross country trips). It has two solar panels on the roof
which keep the batteries topped off all the time. If ventilation was ever
going to be a problem, (IMH0)I think I should have had one by now.

>From the outside, the hole in the sidewall is only discernable to someone
with a background knowledge of Airstreams. It's not noticeable otherwise.

Next week, we'll be using this trailer while traveling to Colorado and then
back to the Adirondack Mountains in New York State by August.

If anyone on the VAC list has strong feelings about this arrangement being
unsafe, please rattle my cage. My tools will be in the truck with us and
modifications can be made anywhere along our route. Email is received and
sent nearly every day no matter where we are on the continent.

Terry
1967 22' Airstream Safari
mailto:tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net

+++++++++++++++++++++

on 06/02/02 8:35 AM, celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

> Hi Dick ,
> I had a similar problem when I installed batteries in my caravel . I ended up
> going with gel type which dont need venting . If you do build a box for lead
> acid - the gasses are lighter than air so they rise . I had thought of
> connecting the vent to the vent for the sink or holding tank as it was nearby
> my
> location . Dont vent thru floor as it wont work , and dont build a sealed box
> as
> it will just concentrate the gas and really explode spraying acid and shrapnel
> .
> Not pretty .
> Chris
> 
> Dick and Kris Parins wrote:
> 
>> Sherry wrote about her EZUp
>> 
>> I went to look at Sherry's EZUp set-up which prompted the following
>> question:
>> 
>> Where is the battery on your Bambi?  It looks like your spare is behind the
>> propane tanks leaving no room for a battery on the tongue.  If your battery
>> is inside can you tell me if and how it is vented and where it is located.
>> Our Bambi is a work in progress and the future battery location is still up
>> in the air.  Right now I'm leaning toward putting it inside but I don't want
>> to cut a vent through the outside wall.
>> 
>> Does anyone else have suggestions?  I've read that some battery boxes are
>> vented into the belly.  Does anyone have opinions about the desirability and
>> effectiveness of this?  The only sealed battery box I have come across has a
>> vent hole in the bottom to go through the floor and a vent tube designed to
>> go up and out on the top.  Whether battery fumes rise or fall this would
>> create circulation which would seem to be desirable.  Alternatively can the
>> battery just be put in a sealed unvented box to be opened only for service
>> and only with adequate ventilation?  It would have to be chargeable while in
>> the box.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>> 
>> Dick
>> '62 Bambi
>> 
>> PS  I like your green and blue EZUp Sherry.



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Message Number: 24
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 14:48:00 -0400
From: Blair <blair@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: Generators

Jim - I use the 2000i it will pull 13.3 Amps and 2000 watts (2400 for a 
short time.)  Not enough for the A/C (91) on my limited which requires 14.4 
AMPS to run, but enough for the rest and then some.

I suggest you visit a Honda dealer with trailer in tow and ask for a demo 
on your trailer.   It worked for me.  Also check prices on the net before 
you go and see what you can negotiate with the dealer.   I saved 40.00 over 
the internet price at a dealer and now have a real person who knows the 
product.  Hopefully you'll be able to gwet a deal as well.  Call me f youd 
like to discuss the generator I'm using.

Blair Prestin
64  25' Tradewind Twin (for Sale)
91  34' Limited (NOW FULL TIMMING)

Earn While You Travel
336.263.9032




At 12:12 AM 6/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:ow c call a person for help if needed.


>       Does anyone know the generator size which would be required
>      to power a Coleman Mini Mach airconditioner?The unit requires
>      8.2 amps, 1000 watts and generates 7100 btu's. I have not been
>      able to locate startup electrical surge requirement. Interior
>      lights, tv, etc. would operate off the battery while the
>      generator was in use, so sizing the generator would be
>      determined just by the startup requirements of the
>      airconditioner. I like the features of the Honda EU2000i but
>      don't know if 2000 watts max. will start my unit.
>      Thankyou.Jim'61 Bambi
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