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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Bambi battery
2. Belly aluminum
3. Re: Bambi battery
4. Re: Bambi battery
5. vw-airstream pix
6. Re: vw-airstream pix
7. Re: vw-airstream pix
8. Belly Aluminum
9. Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 02 18:47:45 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Bambi battery
I suggest to look into sealed batteries which require no additional
fluids over their life time. Although they are sealed I understand they
do leak or vent a tiny bit but nothing like a standard battery. I have
used them for years and they last as long as any other and I simply make
sure I have some overhead vent some venting around the battery chamber to
insure no build up.
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Message Number: 2
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 19:46:45 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <dkparins@ez-net.com>
Subject: Belly aluminum
Will wrote:
> The belly skins were totally shot so I need to replace them. Anyone have any
> advice here? What kind of aluminum is best to replace it with?
Nice pictures Will! The advice I got from this list was to use bare
aluminum and that the original was .024 inches thick, I found a couple
sources for .025 inch thick bare aluminum and wound up buying 6061 T6 from
Aircraft Spruce. I'm no expert but as I understand it the T6 designates the
temper and therefore the hardness. If anything this product is a little
stiffer than the original but it will work for what I am doing. Someone (I
think Roy) had recommended 5052 but I was not able to find it in a thin
enough or small enough sheet. I was only buying enough for two medium sized
patches.
Aircraft Spruce is on-line but their catalog is much better. Call
877-477-7823 to get one. I was amazed at the variety of sheet aluminum
available.
Will also asked:
Should the belly skin be put on before the shell goes back? It obviously was
at the factory, but I am wondering if there is a catch I have not
considered, like needing to tighten a carriage bolt underneath for
instance...
I think you have hit on it. I believe the U-channel has to be bolted down
to the floor through the frame requiring access from below. I suspect the
factory bolts on the U then does the belly then ads the exterior then the
interior. Anybody know for sure? Since you are replacing most of the U
this approach may work for you.
Dick
'62 Bambi
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 02 21:40:21 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Bambi battery
Suggest you give some thought to installing a sealed batteries that
requires no addition of fluids over its life time. They also do not leak
fumes to any degree
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Message Number: 4
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 08:35:32 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Bambi battery
Hi Dick ,
I had a similar problem when I installed batteries in my caravel . I ended up
going with gel type which dont need venting . If you do build a box for lead
acid - the gasses are lighter than air so they rise . I had thought of
connecting the vent to the vent for the sink or holding tank as it was nearby my
location . Dont vent thru floor as it wont work , and dont build a sealed box as
it will just concentrate the gas and really explode spraying acid and shrapnel .
Not pretty .
Chris
Dick and Kris Parins wrote:
> Sherry wrote about her EZUp
>
> I went to look at Sherry's EZUp set-up which prompted the following
> question:
>
> Where is the battery on your Bambi? It looks like your spare is behind the
> propane tanks leaving no room for a battery on the tongue. If your battery
> is inside can you tell me if and how it is vented and where it is located.
> Our Bambi is a work in progress and the future battery location is still up
> in the air. Right now I'm leaning toward putting it inside but I don't want
> to cut a vent through the outside wall.
>
> Does anyone else have suggestions? I've read that some battery boxes are
> vented into the belly. Does anyone have opinions about the desirability and
> effectiveness of this? The only sealed battery box I have come across has a
> vent hole in the bottom to go through the floor and a vent tube designed to
> go up and out on the top. Whether battery fumes rise or fall this would
> create circulation which would seem to be desirable. Alternatively can the
> battery just be put in a sealed unvented box to be opened only for service
> and only with adequate ventilation? It would have to be chargeable while in
> the box.
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
> Dick
> '62 Bambi
>
> PS I like your green and blue EZUp Sherry.
>
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 08:04:08 -0700
From: Susan Altstatt <dsa@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: vw-airstream pix
All;
Just when you thought it was safe again, I located the picture
that was posted on this list by someone a couple of years ago.
My apologies the origional poster.
See http://www.altstatt.com/~dsa/airstream/vw-air3.jpg if
you don't already have a local copy of the vw-airstream in Yellowstone.
BTW, the poster of the first two pictures says he doesn't know
the origin, or whether the vehicle still exist. He just found
them on the Web!
-Susan
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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 10:30:59 -0500
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: vw-airstream pix
Actually, the original poster was our webmaster, RJ Dial. You can see his
posting at http://www.tompatterson.com/VAC/MHonArc/2001_02/msg00312.html.
The pictures were actually taken by Richard Dias, and you can see his
comments at http://www.tompatterson.com/VAC/MHonArc/2001_02/msg00339.html.
There are several other comments by others in this thread on the site.
-Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Altstatt" <dsa@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 10:04 AM
Subject: [VAC] vw-airstream pix
> All;
>
> Just when you thought it was safe again, I located the picture
> that was posted on this list by someone a couple of years ago.
> My apologies the origional poster.
> See http://www.altstatt.com/~dsa/airstream/vw-air3.jpg if
> you don't already have a local copy of the vw-airstream in Yellowstone.
>
> BTW, the poster of the first two pictures says he doesn't know
> the origin, or whether the vehicle still exist. He just found
> them on the Web!
>
> -Susan
>
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Message Number: 7
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 12:25:23 -0400
From: Dave Lowrey <dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: vw-airstream pix
Check out the location of the LP tank.
I hope the guy never rear ends anyone......
Dave
At 08:04 AM 6/2/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>All;
>
>Just when you thought it was safe again, I located the picture
>that was posted on this list by someone a couple of years ago.
>My apologies the origional poster.
>See http://www.altstatt.com/~dsa/airstream/vw-air3.jpg if
>you don't already have a local copy of the vw-airstream in Yellowstone.
_________________________________________________________________
Dave & Ann Lowrey - dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
WBCCI: 5074
1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 12:53:10 -0400
From: Ron Ainsworth <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Belly Aluminum
Will asked
"Should the belly skin be put on before the shell goes back? It obviously
was at the factory, but I am wondering if there is a catch I have not
considered, like needing to tighten a carriage bolt underneath for instance"
Will, we suggest you check out http://airstream.com and take the factory
tour. They show you how the trailers are put together step by step.
We're not experts at any of this, we're learning with the help of you guys.
We hope this helps you out.
Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
'72 Ambassador International 29'
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 16:15:29 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
Rik,
Actually the requirement for OPD valves was originated by the National Fire
Prevention Agency when their record keeping should some 600 fires or explosions a
year caused by overfilled propane cylinders. The Consumer Product Safety Commissions
is implementing the requirement. It's not like this snuck up on us, it has been
talked about for 4 years when the new tanks were first introduced.
Charlie
Rik & Susan Beeson wrote:
> Andy and all,
>
> Absolutely all the AGA (American Gas Association) is interested in is MAKING
> MONEY for their members. Why else do you think we have these new regulations
> about OPD valves? It is because the AGA has made BIG-TIME financial contributions
> to the politicians in those states that have adopted the regulations -- and all
> the rest, too, in an effort to get them to do it also. Corporations and their
> lobby groups should NOT be allowed to make ANY kind of political contributions.
> Enron is a good example. This OPD valve baloney is a good example. This is
> absolutely NOT a safety issue. The old tanks and valves worked just fine for well
> over 70 years. The people who claim it is a safety issue are those who sell tanks
> - them, and lawyers.
>
> If anyone has any aluminum tanks with old-style valves they'd like to unolad
> cheap, please contact me directly, off list.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rik
>
> Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
> > Jim. Polishing compounds usually have a very fine pumice, and that's why they
> > polish. Sandpaper on the other hand, cuts, and therefore is considered
> > abrasive, as it does not polish. To cut into an aluminum tank with sandpaper,
> > and then follow it up with a polish, will reduce the effective thickness of
> > the material. It is for that reason, that AGA says, No.
> > Andy
>
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