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Today's Topics:
1. Re: California Room Wanted!
2. Re: Sewer Solution
3. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
4. window weatherstrip 1962
5. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
6. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
7. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
8. Re: Curtain rail aluminum extrusion source?
9. New Fridge Ordered!
10. Re: Sewer solution
11. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
12. New cabinet doors for 70's A/S
13. Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
14. Polishing Aluminum Tanks moderation
15. Re: New cabinet doors for 70's A/S
16. Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
17. California room wanted
18. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
19. Bambi battery
20. Re: New Fridge Ordered!
21. Is '75 Owners Manual close enough for my '72
22. Re: Subject: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
23. Re: California room wanted
24. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
25. Re: Bambi battery
26. New "Best Airstream Sites" website launched!
27. Re: Is '75 Owners Manual close enough for my '72
28. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
29. Re: Bambi battery
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Message Number: 1
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:33:37 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Dear Chris & Matt,
Did I read your thoughts or did you read mine. I just finished taking a
shower . . . the place where I do my most serious thinking. I looked up and
pondered whether I could cantilever the shed over the crest of the
Airstream. Then I thought that it would inhibit use of all vents. Maybe I
could just take them off and leave the fan and screen.
Then my mind turned to thoughts of airports since they were the only places
where I had ever seen docking on the curved side of a aluminum fuselage. I
wondered to myself whether they ever sold old gates. But I also recalled
that there were always gaping holes around the bottom of those gates. And
mostly they wouldn't take kindly to them at this park.
Somewhere between these ideas may lay the answer. I look up at the old
track from my Zip Dee awning and imagine what it would be like in the rain.
Must be leak proof, so that track could be used to mount a fabric seal
horizontally. That means a lot less overhang then having to go over the
crest of the trailer.
So all that is left, is how to make the turn sealing the curved sides and
attach whatever the material is to posts in the corners of my "California
Room". . . ugh! Thanks for the inspiration.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Bryant" <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:43 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: California Room Wanted!
> My Airstream wrote:
>
> >I would like to stray back on topic and ask if anybody has docked an
> >Airstream against a hard wall room of any sort?
>
> Humph- back on topic <g>. You know, when thinking about this
> subject, I just keep thinking about the "Jetways" (what the heck are
> they called) at airports that snug up againt the airplanes. A solid
> structure with flexible fabric and a big gasket.
>
> --
> Chris Bryant
> mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
>
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Message Number: 2
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 20:40:58 EDT
From: JPPOLLY@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution
I have a 64 GT and there are no adaptors that fit - I have a bucket full that
I have bought or that have been given to me with the assurance that this is
the proper adaptor - I think the solution is to cut off the old pipe and
cement in a new piece that uses the current adaptors. I still have the old
cast aluminum fitting that does fit but it is so large in diameter that it is
hard to get the slinky on it. Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings -
Just Plain Polly
1964 Globe Trotter
Colorado
WBCCI 7113
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Message Number: 3
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 20:09:07 -0500
From: "gina terrell" <terrellgina@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
when we installed the macerater we closed the gray water pipe off and put a
regular hose fitting to it so we can run the grey water were we need it or
want it. the outlet on the macerater uses only about a one inch tube so if
you wanted to you could run them both down the same sewer outlet. if you
weren't close to an outlet and weren't allowed to water the plants with the
grey water it would be simple to just let it drain into one of the blue
tanks on wheels.and macerate the poop as needed
gina
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>It's so obvious that if you force water up a pipe and throughut that has
>not
>obstruction it will continue to rise into "unmentionable" areas. There
>would have to be a closure of some sort and there is none on the older
>units
>that do not have a gray water tank.
>
>The reports of success using a backwash on older (no gray tank) units could
>be attributed to finesse:) Just the right amount of pressure could clean
>the bottom of the black tank and not make it's way up to the
>"unmentionables". I still recomment a wand spraying down throught the
>commode to clean and flush the tank.
>
>Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
>66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
>Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
>To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:16 AM
>Subject: [VAC] Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
>
>
> > That is what I thought might happen.
> >
> > Did it do that during the dumping or the backwash only?
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:02 AM
> > Subject: [VAC] Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> >
> >
> > > Tim: I tried one of these on my '66 Overlander, and it filled my
>bathtub
> > > with unmentionables. In order for this to work, shut off valves would
>need
> > > to be installed on the grey water drain pipes (My Overlander has twin
>grey
> > > pipes leading to the black drain pipe).
> > >
> > > Randy Unter
> > > '66 Overlander
> > > Denver
> > >
> > > > I need to get a sewer drain hose for my '71 Safari. I was looking
>into
> > > the
> > > > Sewer Solution at www.sewersolution.com.
> > > >
> > > > It will shoot water from a hose back up into your holding tank to
>clean
> > it
> > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > On an older airstream w/o a grey tank like mine, wouldn't that shoot
> > water
> > > > out of all the drains in the trailer since the drain lines connect
>to
> > the
> > > > black tank output and there is no valve to stop it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Message Number: 4
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:23:34 -0400
From: "Robert Harper" <rharper@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: window weatherstrip 1962
Hi-
I've had feelers out to several places for an answer to this seemingly
unanswerable question for a few weeks now, and still no progress. I've
asked the question before going back a couple of years, but so far no one
has Things seem to be picking up so I'll ask again:
Who has successfully used what to replace the compressible bulb-type window
weatherstrip on the 1962 Hehr windows? I mean the seal which repeatedly
compresses when the window is closed, and expands when the window is opened.
Samples were sent to airstreamdreams re: having the original made, but I
have heard of no progress.
I've seen all of the catalogs mentioned and sampled the most promising
products (McMaster, Soffseal, MSC, JC Whitney, etc.), have tried the "D" or
"P" type self adhesive stuff from Home Depot, experimented with round
silicone door seals and others. I'd like to know if anyone has "actual
experience" with a specific replacement product and has tested it
successfully over multiple seasons in this window. Hehr Mrk 12 I believe,
definitely 1962.
Still hopeful and still experimenting.
Bob Harper
'62 Globe Trotter in SC
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Message Number: 5
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:41:44 -0700
From: "Alec Fisken" <afisken@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
kprice asked:
>I'd like to know where you got your 8 X 8 QuikShade and how much it
was. I
have a '66 Caravel and I agree it's a lot of money for the Zip Dee and here
in Texas the wind really blows and you need something you can get up and
down
quick.
I've just acquired a 1972 Globetrotter 21', and am also trying to figure
out what to do for an awning. I stopped by G.I.Joe's today (it may be an
exclusively northwest chain - I don't know) and saw the 8'x8' canopy shown
in the picture for $99. They do have a website: www.gijoes.com. The one I
saw in the store seemed like a nice sturdy unit. They also come in larger
sizes and different colors.
The alternative to a fixed awning would probably be a simple tarp (about 8'
x 10') with a metal rod in a pocket along one edge, which feeds into the
awning rail. The outside corners would have to be supported by poles and
staked out with ropes, I think. From previous postings, I gather the problem
with this type of awning is the difficulty of feeding the edge into the
awning rail, and removing it every time you need to move.
I agree with the others that this meddlesome complainer just needs to be
aware there are real reasons for needing shade. If this campground is a
"place of public accomodation" it must accomodate the needs of visitors who
are disabled, so I really doubt the management would say a word against this
innocuous awning. If they do, politely suggest they contact their lawyer
first!
Kathy Fisken
Seattle, WA
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Message Number: 6
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:23:06 -0400
From: "Sanderson Sandy" <swsandy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Hi Tim,
When I installed my Sewer Solution in my '70, I first installed a gate
valve in the gray water line. This was done as close to the black water gate
valve as I could get. Wasn't too difficult, bought the 2" valve from Camping
World, cut the pipe with a hacksaw, there was enough slack to get the valve
in place, glued her up, works great.
Walt Sandy
S. W. Sandy
WBCCI # 4159 & VAC
Region 2 VAC Representative
1960 17' Pacer
1970 27' Overlander
South West New Jersey
Mail to: swsandy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:48 AM
Subject: [VAC] Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> I need to get a sewer drain hose for my '71 Safari. I was looking into
the
> Sewer Solution at www.sewersolution.com.
>
> It will shoot water from a hose back up into your holding tank to clean it
> out.
>
> On an older airstream w/o a grey tank like mine, wouldn't that shoot water
> out of all the drains in the trailer since the drain lines connect to the
> black tank output and there is no valve to stop it?
>
>
> -Tim
> tim@telecom-pros.com
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> eFax (508) 590-0302
>
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Message Number: 7
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:30:32 -0400
From: "Richard P. Kenan" <as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
[sjnip]
>I agree with the others that this meddlesome complainer just needs to be
>aware there are real reasons for needing shade. If this campground is a
>"place of public accomodation" it must accomodate the needs of visitors who
>are disabled, so I really doubt the management would say a word against this
>innocuous awning. If they do, politely suggest they contact their lawyer
>first!
It's not a "place of public accommodation;" it's a private park, open only
to WBCCI members with Airstream trailers. I intend to bring this topic up
at the next rally (July 4) at the Board meeting; we should be able to get a
friendly ruling.
- Dick
(5368)
"God Himself, sir, does not propose to judge a man until his life is over.
Why should you and I?"
-Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)
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Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:41:52 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Curtain rail aluminum extrusion source?
That's odd. I have always been able to ask the folks at Airstream to cut
any of their extrusions to UPS able length. I shipped a ton of that stuff
to Universal Studio's 2 years ago. You might want to try another dealer and
have it dropped ship to you.
Charlie
John Leggett wrote:
> I'm looking for a cost-effective source for the lower
> aluminum curtain tracks (or reasonable facsimile) as
> used on the 2001 Airstreams. I need lengths 50", 42"
> & 26". Measures about 5/8" wide with 1/4" groove for
> a "T"-shaped button to run in.
>
> Local RV supply/dealers tell me the aluminum is
> stocked in 10' or 12' lengths and as a result must be
> shipped by truck at a cost 3 times the value of the
> material. ($60 bucks to ship a $15 part). UPS limits
> at 8' length. And nobody wants to cut a piece to meet
> UPS limits.
>
> Any sources or ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> John Leggett
> 1968 Safari
> San Francisco area
>
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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:30:04 -0500
From: "Dana Kelley" <jckelley@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: New Fridge Ordered!
We'll guys, the burping thing didn't work for us. So I have ordered a new
Dometic RM2820 from local dealer. It's 3/16" wider so I hope it will fit. I
will have to either use the wood grain door panels (which will not match my
dark walnut) or use the black. Someone said I could use my own material and
just cut to fit. I wonder if I could buy sheet formicha and choose my own
color. Just a thought. Anyone else go thru this?
DSK in TEXAS
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:50:03 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer solution
I used one for 2.5 months while I lived in my trailer, and loved it. Only
reason you'd need a big hose is if you dump your black water into a portable
blue tank. Then you'd need the 3" hose to dump the portable tank into the
dump station. I tried to dump without the hose once. Not a pleasant
experience, and took a long time to clean up the mess.
I also have a wand to flush the tank with, and consider it worthwhile.
Dan
75 Argosy 26
> From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:03:19 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC]
>
> Sewer Solution
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:53:58 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Did you have to do that because of a problem or were you just thinking
ahead?
-Tim
tim@telecom-pros.com
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sanderson Sandy" <swsandy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:23 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> Hi Tim,
> When I installed my Sewer Solution in my '70, I first installed a gate
> valve in the gray water line. This was done as close to the black water
gate
> valve as I could get. Wasn't too difficult, bought the 2" valve from
Camping
> World, cut the pipe with a hacksaw, there was enough slack to get the
valve
> in place, glued her up, works great.
> Walt Sandy
> S. W. Sandy
> WBCCI # 4159 & VAC
> Region 2 VAC Representative
> 1960 17' Pacer
> 1970 27' Overlander
> South West New Jersey
> Mail to: swsandy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:48 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Sewer Solution on older airstreams
>
>
> > I need to get a sewer drain hose for my '71 Safari. I was looking into
> the
> > Sewer Solution at www.sewersolution.com.
> >
> > It will shoot water from a hose back up into your holding tank to clean
it
> > out.
> >
> > On an older airstream w/o a grey tank like mine, wouldn't that shoot
water
> > out of all the drains in the trailer since the drain lines connect to
the
> > black tank output and there is no valve to stop it?
> >
> >
> > -Tim
> > tim@telecom-pros.com
> > http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> > eFax (508) 590-0302
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:57:11 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: New cabinet doors for 70's A/S
As many of you know, I have a '71 Safari.
The tambour doors are non existant except for the upper ones. I have no
intrest in trying to replace the tambour.
So I have decided to make some regular type doors with hinges. I was
wondering if anyone else has done this already and had some advice and
photos?
Thanks
-Tim
tim@telecom-pros.com
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302
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Message Number: 13
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 00:49:16 -0700
From: Rik & Susan Beeson <rik@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
Andy and all,
Absolutely all the AGA (American Gas Association) is interested in is MAKING
MONEY for their members. Why else do you think we have these new regulations
about OPD valves? It is because the AGA has made BIG-TIME financial contributions
to the politicians in those states that have adopted the regulations -- and all
the rest, too, in an effort to get them to do it also. Corporations and their
lobby groups should NOT be allowed to make ANY kind of political contributions.
Enron is a good example. This OPD valve baloney is a good example. This is
absolutely NOT a safety issue. The old tanks and valves worked just fine for well
over 70 years. The people who claim it is a safety issue are those who sell tanks
- them, and lawyers.
If anyone has any aluminum tanks with old-style valves they'd like to unolad
cheap, please contact me directly, off list.
Best regards,
Rik
Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> Jim. Polishing compounds usually have a very fine pumice, and that's why they
> polish. Sandpaper on the other hand, cuts, and therefore is considered
> abrasive, as it does not polish. To cut into an aluminum tank with sandpaper,
> and then follow it up with a polish, will reduce the effective thickness of
> the material. It is for that reason, that AGA says, No.
> Andy
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Message Number: 14
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 05:56:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Polishing Aluminum Tanks moderation
don't want to see this thread get out of hand. Please
discontinue.
Thanks -
Toby Folwick
VACList co-moderator
> Absolutely all the AGA (American Gas Association) is
> interested in is...
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Message Number: 15
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:37:36 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: New cabinet doors for 70's A/S
I replaced the tambour doors in the kitchen area of my 1976 Sovereign with
custom doors made from 1/2" Ash faced plywood. I first took out all of the
tambour tracks and built a frame to mount the new doors on out 1X2 stock. I
finished the doors with a walnut stain and black trim. They work great and
look good. I have some pics and will try and gather them up and post to my
website.
Don Hardman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:57 AM
Subject: [VAC] New cabinet doors for 70's A/S
> As many of you know, I have a '71 Safari.
>
> The tambour doors are non existant except for the upper ones. I have no
> intrest in trying to replace the tambour.
>
> So I have decided to make some regular type doors with hinges. I was
> wondering if anyone else has done this already and had some advice and
> photos?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> -Tim
> tim@telecom-pros.com
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> eFax (508) 590-0302
>
>
>
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Message Number: 16
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 06:51:40 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
I agree with your sentiment on the greed factor but would like to add that
old valves are the weak link with most aluminum tanks. A full service gas
facility can replace the original valve with an OPD valve on aluminum tanks.
I paid $31 per tank. Aluminum tanks don't rust like steel, so barring
physical damage, retrofitting them with OPD is a good investment. I would
never get rid of my light weight Lennox aluminum tanks for some
"rustbucket-to-be" steel tanks that are not vintage.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik & Susan Beeson" <rik@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
>
> Absolutely all the AGA (American Gas Association) is interested in is
MAKING
> MONEY for their members. Why else do you think we have these new
regulations
> about OPD valves? It is because the AGA has made BIG-TIME financial
contributions
> to the politicians in those states that have adopted the regulations --
and all
> the rest, too, in an effort to get them to do it also. Corporations and
their
> lobby groups should NOT be allowed to make ANY kind of political
contributions.
> Enron is a good example. This OPD valve baloney is a good example. This is
> absolutely NOT a safety issue. The old tanks and valves worked just fine
for well
> over 70 years. The people who claim it is a safety issue are those who
sell tanks
> - them, and lawyers.
>
> If anyone has any aluminum tanks with old-style valves they'd like to
unolad
> cheap, please contact me directly, off list.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rik
>
>
> Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
> > Jim. Polishing compounds usually have a very fine pumice, and that's why
they
> > polish. Sandpaper on the other hand, cuts, and therefore is considered
> > abrasive, as it does not polish. To cut into an aluminum tank with
sandpaper,
> > and then follow it up with a polish, will reduce the effective thickness
of
> > the material. It is for that reason, that AGA says, No.
> > Andy
>
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Message Number: 17
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:40:03 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <dkparins@ez-net.com>
Subject: California room wanted
Bob K wrote:
>
> I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the unit and got a
> lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was illegible.
We use a Mac and the site worked for me.
Dick
'62 Bambi
------------------------------
Message Number: 18
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:24:20 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
Kathy, Doug Rowbottom worked out a nice solution to attaching a canopy to
the awning rail on his coach. He attached some hooks in the awning rail and
when attaching the canopy, the hooks go through gromets in the edge of the
canopy. Very fast to set up and take down as a one person operation. I don't
think one person could thread a rod in a canopy pocket through the awning
rail and certainly not very quickly if it's possible at all.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alec Fisken" <afisken@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 22:41
Subject: [VAC] Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
> The alternative to a fixed awning would probably be a simple tarp (about
8'
> x 10') with a metal rod in a pocket along one edge, which feeds into the
> awning rail. The outside corners would have to be supported by poles and
> staked out with ropes, I think. From previous postings, I gather the
problem
> with this type of awning is the difficulty of feeding the edge into the
> awning rail, and removing it every time you need to move.
>
> Kathy Fisken
>
> Seattle, WA
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Message Number: 19
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:19:29 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <dkparins@ez-net.com>
Subject: Bambi battery
Sherry wrote about her EZUp
I went to look at Sherry's EZUp set-up which prompted the following
question:
Where is the battery on your Bambi? It looks like your spare is behind the
propane tanks leaving no room for a battery on the tongue. If your battery
is inside can you tell me if and how it is vented and where it is located.
Our Bambi is a work in progress and the future battery location is still up
in the air. Right now I'm leaning toward putting it inside but I don't want
to cut a vent through the outside wall.
Does anyone else have suggestions? I've read that some battery boxes are
vented into the belly. Does anyone have opinions about the desirability and
effectiveness of this? The only sealed battery box I have come across has a
vent hole in the bottom to go through the floor and a vent tube designed to
go up and out on the top. Whether battery fumes rise or fall this would
create circulation which would seem to be desirable. Alternatively can the
battery just be put in a sealed unvented box to be opened only for service
and only with adequate ventilation? It would have to be chargeable while in
the box.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Dick
'62 Bambi
PS I like your green and blue EZUp Sherry.
------------------------------
Message Number: 20
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:38:55 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: New Fridge Ordered!
We installed our own wood panel on the door of our new Dometic. Directions
and specifications come with the fridge. We matched the new cabinetry finish
on the fridge door.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Kelley" <jckelley@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 0:30
Subject: [VAC] New Fridge Ordered!
> We'll guys, the burping thing didn't work for us. So I have ordered a new
> Dometic RM2820 from local dealer. It's 3/16" wider so I hope it will fit.
I
> will have to either use the wood grain door panels (which will not match
my
> dark walnut) or use the black. Someone said I could use my own material
and
> just cut to fit. I wonder if I could buy sheet formicha and choose my own
> color. Just a thought. Anyone else go thru this?
> DSK in TEXAS
------------------------------
Message Number: 21
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:52:33 -0400
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <mprice@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Is '75 Owners Manual close enough for my '72
Would a 1975 owners manual be close enough in content for me to learn
about the systems in my 1972 Trade Wind?
Melvin
------------------------------
Message Number: 22
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:57:52 -0600
From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Subject: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Did it do that during the dumping or the backwash only?
Can't remember. The whole thing was such a mess, I promptly threw the thing
in the garage where it sits now and went back to the old tried and true
system: Gravity. I think it would have worked with shut off valves for the
grey drain pipes.
Randy
------------------------------
Message Number: 23
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:20:12 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California room wanted
Oh I wish that I would get even one answer as to how I might build my
permanent room and dock it with the Airstream. Please be reminded that the
only reason that Zip Dee came up was that I was led to their website for the
"Add-a-room" feature, which turned out to be a temporary structure and not a
California room.
We now know that most of the browsers, but not all, handle Zip Dee's website
just fine. We know that the program known as "Drumbeat" which was used to
produce the Zip Dee site was sold to Macromedia who then phased it out more
than a year ago. Those who are Google members can look up Drumbeat and see
the history of this program and perhaps . . . why it no longer is sold. I
could speak to the technicalities of this HTML all day but it's not an
Airstream related issue. The subject of "California Rooms" is quite
relevant to the comfort and culture of the Airstream community in my
opinion.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick and Kris Parins" <dkparins@ez-net.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:40 AM
Subject: [VAC] California room wanted
>
>
> Bob K wrote:
> >
> > I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the unit and got a
> > lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was illegible.
>
>
> We use a Mac and the site worked for me.
>
> Dick
> '62 Bambi
>
>
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Message Number: 24
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:31:26 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
Hey Jim,
There is an overlap here with my quest for "California Room". I agree
that it would be hard for one person to thread the length of the awning rail
. . . especially if it were for a temporary purpose. But if the purpose
were to use the awning rail for a water seal on a permanent adjoining room,
it would seem like an elegant solution.
As to hooks in the awning rail, I put one hole in the end of my rail and
used a large circular key ring type fastener. I then hooked my doggie line
to the fastener and it has been taught and strong for a year and one half.
If water leakage is not a concern, I think the multiple hooks and karabiners
would work quickly and have strength on any model Airstream. What does Doug
do to anchor the outside corners of his canopy?
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
> Kathy, Doug Rowbottom worked out a nice solution to attaching a canopy to
> the awning rail on his coach. He attached some hooks in the awning rail
and
> when attaching the canopy, the hooks go through gromets in the edge of the
> canopy. Very fast to set up and take down as a one person operation. I
don't
> think one person could thread a rod in a canopy pocket through the awning
> rail and certainly not very quickly if it's possible at all.
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alec Fisken" <afisken@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 22:41
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
>
>
> > The alternative to a fixed awning would probably be a simple tarp (about
> 8'
> > x 10') with a metal rod in a pocket along one edge, which feeds into the
> > awning rail. The outside corners would have to be supported by poles and
> > staked out with ropes, I think. From previous postings, I gather the
> problem
> > with this type of awning is the difficulty of feeding the edge into the
> > awning rail, and removing it every time you need to move.
> >
> > Kathy Fisken
> >
> > Seattle, WA
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 25
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:20:28 -0700
From: "Sherry" <sherryhayes@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Bambi battery
Dick wrote:
> Where is the battery on your Bambi? It looks like your spare
> is behind the
> propane tanks leaving no room for a battery on the tongue.
> If your battery
> is inside can you tell me if and how it is vented and where
> it is located.
Hi Dick -
By '63 Airstream was putting a battery compartment (at least on some of the
trailers) for the batteries. The compartment is under the gaucho bed. It has
a drop down door and the battery slides in. I can go out and shoot digital
photos (both inside and out) if you're interested.
Happy Trails - Sherry
'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
------------------------------
Message Number: 26
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:54:28 -0600
From: "Andy Robinowitz" <andy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: New "Best Airstream Sites" website launched!
I have created a site (www.airstreamsites.com) for fellow Airstreamers to
post a description, banner & link to their Airstream related website. If you
know anyone who has an Airstream related website, send them a link to the
site, that will help the listing become more extensive!
The website is www.airstreamsites.com.
Got any questions? Feedback?
Cheers,
Andy
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Message Number: 27
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:38:06 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Is '75 Owners Manual close enough for my '72
Short answer: yes. A 1972 Owner's Manual is available from Secretarial
Services for $30 postpaid. Phone (937) 492-8885.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <mprice@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:52
Subject: [VAC] Is '75 Owners Manual close enough for my '72
> Would a 1975 owners manual be close enough in content for me to learn
> about the systems in my 1972 Trade Wind?
>
> Melvin
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 28
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:47:11 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
Bob, I think Doug uses two poles -- one on each corner (maybe collapsible
like painter's extension poles) with a couple of guy ropes on the corners.
Doug is on here if he's not off traveling so maybe he can describe his set
up more fully.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 14:31
Subject: [VAC] Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
> Hey Jim,
> There is an overlap here with my quest for "California Room". I agree
> that it would be hard for one person to thread the length of the awning
rail
> . . . especially if it were for a temporary purpose. But if the purpose
> were to use the awning rail for a water seal on a permanent adjoining
room,
> it would seem like an elegant solution.
>
> As to hooks in the awning rail, I put one hole in the end of my rail and
> used a large circular key ring type fastener. I then hooked my doggie
line
> to the fastener and it has been taught and strong for a year and one half.
> If water leakage is not a concern, I think the multiple hooks and
karabiners
> would work quickly and have strength on any model Airstream. What does
Doug
> do to anchor the outside corners of his canopy?
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 29
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:15:24 -0700
From: Rik & Susan Beeson <rik@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Bambi battery
Hello Dick,
About the best solution (albeit not the cheapest) is to use a Concorde AGM
(Absorbed Glass Mat) deep-cycle battery. This battery, to quote Home Power
magazine, "can be installed inside, without containments or venting." Also, they
are UL listed. They can be shipped via UPS or air freight because they are not
considered hazardous materials, as are conventional lead-acid batteries. If you
want to use a battery box, West Marine has nice ones.
The nice folks at Backwoods Solar Electric (among others) sell them, and I
believe they can get any size you might want:
http://www.backwoodssolar.com/index.htm
BTW, the fumes from conventional lead-acid batteries that concern us are
hydrogen, and they rise.
Best regards,
Rik
Dick and Kris Parins wrote:
> Does anyone else have suggestions? I've read that some battery boxes are
> vented into the belly. Does anyone have opinions about the desirability and
> effectiveness of this? The only sealed battery box I have come across has a
> vent hole in the bottom to go through the floor and a vent tube designed to
> go up and out on the top. Whether battery fumes rise or fall this would
> create circulation which would seem to be desirable. Alternatively can the
> battery just be put in a sealed unvented box to be opened only for service
> and only with adequate ventilation? It would have to be chargeable while in
> the box.
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
> Dick
> '62 Bambi
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