The Vintage Airstream E-mail List
Archive Files
VACList DigestVACList-Digest Thursday, May 30, 2002 Issue 319
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Mystery Wood Object
2. Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
3. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
4. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
5. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
6. link wanted
7. Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
8. Re: link wanted
9. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
10. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
11. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
12. Sewer Solution
13. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
14. Re: link wanted
15. California Room Wanted!
16. Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
17. Re: Sewer Solution
18. Re: California Room Wanted!
19. Re: Sewer Solution
20. Re: link wanted
21. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
22. Re: Sewer Solution
23. Re: Sewer Solution
24. Sewer Solution on older airstreams
25. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
26. Re: California Room Wanted!
27. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
28. Re: California Room Wanted!
29. Re: California Room Wanted!
30. Re: California Room Wanted!
31. Re: California Room Wanted!
32. Re: DipDee Site
33. Re: California Room Wanted!
34. Re: California Room Wanted!
35. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
36. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
37. Curtain rail aluminum extrusion source?
38. Re: California Room Wanted!
39. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
40. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
41. Re: California Room Wanted!
42. Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
43. Re: California Room Wanted!
44. Re: California Room Wanted!
45. Re: California Room Wanted!
46. Re: California Room Wanted!
47. Re: California Room Wanted!
48. Re: California Room Wanted!
49. Re: Curtain rail aluminum extrusion source?
50. Re: California Room Wanted!
51. Re: Curtain rail aluminum extrusion source?
52. Re: California Room Wanted!
53. Re: California Room Wanted!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:16:01 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Mystery Wood Object
Hoyt. The key is the "hex head screws." Airstream has never used that type
screw. Andy
------------------------------
Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:09:51 -0400
From: "Aston, Geven" <geven.aston@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
I need some practical ideas for an awning for a '67 Caravel. There was a
complaint from a fellow Airstreamer made to the park host at this past
weekend's rally at my local Airstream park about my 8 x 8 QuikShade awning
(see this link for a photo of it
http://airstream.net/rallies/01-TOG/TOG.html ). I was told it falls under a
rule that the park has that says you can't have a "a built structure at your
campsite". I was surprised that an awning that can be put up within 30
seconds could be considered a structure but never the less will consider
other options for the 4 miscellaneous days per year I spend there. My wife
is a cancer survivor and some of the medications she is on still makes her
very sensitive to the sun. No awning would mean that she would be in the
trailer for the whole weekend.
I've pretty much dismissed the idea of destroying the clean lines of my
small camper with a $1050.00 Zip Dee awning. The really bad part about the
ZipDee on a trailer as small as mine is that it only spans about 7 feet
(from curve to curve). That's not a lot of "bang for the buck" in my book. I
would like to do something that would look "period correct" and not detract
from the smooth appearance of the trailer. My trailer came with the factory
Armstrong air conditioning which is already sort of obtrusive on the small
trailer!
Thanks,
Geven Aston
'67 Caravel & Woody wagon tow vehicle
------------------------------
Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:18:50 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
The sewersolution won't shoot any water into your system unless you want it
to. It depends on where you set the valve position. Normally, it just
pulverizes the waste so it's in a more liquid form.
Roger
Roger Hightower, N7KT
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net
------------------------------
Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:23:01 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Tim,
Like yourself I have an older coach with no gray tank. My now infamous
Thetford Slideomatic when fully open allows direct access into the black
holding tank. I have been taught to use a wand and manually spray out the
black tank to clean. It's an inexpensive solution from the top down and
puts lots of water pressure in the cruddy area, where it is most needed.
I have also been taught to keep the black tank valve closed and use
deodorant even while "permanently" hooked to city sewer lines. I open the
valve weekly or as needed. This practice is supposed to prevent the buildup
of paper in the bottom of the tank, which can become like paper mache if it
keeps dropping and drying. Keeping the valve closed eliminates the drying
and reduces clogging in the tank. For the list vets, have I been taught
correctly?
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
------------------------------
Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:42:27 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Thanks Jim.
I will probably get one. As I do not have any sewer hoses at all yet,
should I get the older 3" hose for some kind of back up?
-Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:13 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> Tim, it doesn't on my ' 68 Tradewind. Works fine and was money well spent
as
> far as I'm concerned. You will need an adapter ($5) to go between your
> Thetford dump outlet and the Valterra fitting on the Sewer Solution. Drain
> the black tank first and then turn the SS valve to rinse the black tank.
> Doesn't take a lot of rinsing.
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:48
> Subject: [VAC] Sewer Solution on older airstreams
>
>
> > I need to get a sewer drain hose for my '71 Safari. I was looking into
> the
> > Sewer Solution at www.sewersolution.com.
> >
> > It will shoot water from a hose back up into your holding tank to clean
it
> > out.
> >
> > On an older airstream w/o a grey tank like mine, wouldn't that shoot
water
> > out of all the drains in the trailer since the drain lines connect to
the
> > black tank output and there is no valve to stop it?
> >
> >
> > -Tim
> > tim@telecom-pros.com
> > http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> > eFax (508) 590-0302
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> >
> > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:25:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: link wanted
looking for a link to the guy (in the northeast?) who
refurbishes airstreams for people with medical
sensitivities.
anyone have it? I went to Tom Pattersons site (which
seems to be partly down?) and also did a web search to
no avail.
Thanks for your help.
Toby
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:12:11 -0700
From: Rik & Susan Beeson <rik@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Polishing Aluminum Tanks
There is really no correlation between the 2200+ psi pressure that scuba tanks
use and the working pressures of LGP tanks. You are comparing apples and
oranges ~ Rik
Tuna wrote:
> . Scuba tanks (about which i know something) must be
> visually-inspected (for rust/corrosion inside) once per year; and
> hydrostatically (pressure) tested every five years.
------------------------------
Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:33:12 EDT
From: Timbell524@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: link wanted
www.healthy-homes.com
Tim
Bell#4999
------------------------------
Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:01:08 -0700
From: Patrick Ewing <pre52@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
Geven,
It's sad that things like this indeed do happen every now & then. As far as I'm
concerned your little shelter looks just fine.
When we use our Bambi we have a dark green screen room that we can use next to
the trailer. These small trailers just can't accomodiate a decent length awning,
plus I personally think it detracts from the short & older units looks. On our
31ft. Sovereign we happen to have a full length Zip Dee awning that makes it
actually worth while to put out.
My suggestions are to clain "medical reasons" for the shelter and also consider
getting a softer color such as dark blue or green instead of the red.
Campgrounds usually ( & legally?) make special allowances for medical
situations.That might keep people quiet. Remember there's always "someone" that
has to B@#%*. Please don't let these types of folks & situations ruin a good
time for you & your wife.
Pat
"Aston, Geven" wrote:
> I need some practical ideas for an awning for a '67 Caravel. There was a
> complaint from a fellow Airstreamer made to the park host at this past
> weekend's rally at my local Airstream park about my 8 x 8 QuikShade awning
------------------------------
Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:39:42 -0400
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
How would the complainer figure his Airstream came into being, from under a
cabbage leaf? Or was it perhaps built? I'd have a federal marshal up there in
a heartbeat to explain how the Americans with Disabilities Act covers sunscreens
for people who are particularly sensitive to the sun.
Some people have nothing better to do than to pick nits.
Matt
"Aston, Geven" wrote:
> <snip>I was told it falls under a
> rule that the park has that says you can't have a "a built structure at your
> campsite". --
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
------------------------------
Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:47:38 -0400
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Bob,
You are correctly informed. My wife went out in the rain one time to open the
black water valve, and forgot to close it. A couple of days later I went out to
empty the (full) tank, only to find the valve open already. The only way to
clear the clog was for one person to stand on the pedal while the other reached
down and cleared the clog. Guess who's reach is longer.
NOT PLEASANT!
Matt
My Airstream wrote:<snip>
>
> I have also been taught to keep the black tank valve closed and use
> deodorant even while "permanently" hooked to city sewer lines. I open the
> valve weekly or as needed. This practice is supposed to prevent the buildup
> of paper in the bottom of the tank, which can become like paper mache if it
> keeps dropping and drying. Keeping the valve closed eliminates the drying
> and reduces clogging in the tank. For the list vets, have I been taught
> correctly?
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
------------------------------
Message Number: 12
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:02:57 -0500
From: "Dana Kelley" <jckelley@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Sewer Solution
We have used the sewer solution now for 2 yrs. (3 trips) and it has worked
fine. I had concerns about it at first but after we used it and saw how it
worked we liked it. We have a 73 Overlander without a gray tank, and don't
have a lot of storage space for one of those big ugly things. When we dump
my husband is outside hooking it up and I'm inside with a flashlite looking
down inside tank. I can see when it is empty and also when he turns the knob
to flush out I can see the water coming into the tank. The water goes into
the black tank and if it goes up the line the other way it doesn't come up
into the tub or anywhere else. I always turn on water pump and use some
water in our water tank to rinse out the lines before he unhooks. Works just
fine for us.
DSK in TEXAS
------------------------------
Message Number: 13
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:30:43 EDT
From: KPrice6163@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
I'd like to know where you got your 8 X 8 QuikShade and how much it was. I
have a '66 Caravel and I agree it's a lot of money for the Zip Dee and here
in Texas the wind really blows and you need something you can get up and down
quick.
I agree, explain your family's health issue and probably they would not say a
word.
Thanks.
KPrice
'66 Caravel
------------------------------
Message Number: 14
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:01:32 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: link wanted
Gosh. Between the Hanti-virus lurking in my 66 Safari and the highly
explosive LP gas tanks a few feet forward from my bed I feel like I'm living
life on the edge. I really didn't think the "sanitized" Airstream was
attractive or particularly functional. I've seen dozens of restorations on
this list that surpass "Safe Haven Trailers".
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
----- Original Message -----
From: <Timbell524@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:33 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: link wanted
>
>
> www.healthy-homes.com
>
> Tim
> Bell#4999
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 15
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:35:07 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: California Room Wanted!
I have a concrete pad next to my coach. It is 14'x 8' and is perfectly
positioned to be floor base for a "California Room". The picture on my home
page shows the spot very clearly. These type rooms are very common
throughout this park and definitely add a lot of living space to the
trailers. My problem is that I don't see a way to seal the unit against the
Airstream. I want to maintain portability and be able to dock the trailer
against the California Room. Does anyone have any pictures or plans of such
a structure?
Thanks for your help.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
------------------------------
Message Number: 16
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:35:46 -0700
From: "Sherry" <sherryhayes@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Awning ideas needed for a '67 Caravel
Gven Astone wrote:
> There was a
> complaint from a fellow Airstreamer made to the park host at this past
> weekend's rally at my local Airstream park about my 8 x 8
> QuikShade awning
> (see this link for a photo of it
> http://airstream.net/rallies/01-TOG/TOG.html ). I was told it
> falls under a
> rule that the park has that says you can't have a "a built
> structure at your
> campsite".
Well I think I've heard it all now. I use exactly the same kind of structure
with my Bambi (see http://home.earthlink.net/~sherryhayes/EZUp.htm. I tried
using an "original" awning (poles, guy wires, etc.) and could not put it up
by myself, my dogs kept getting tangled in the lines, and it looked
terrible. The EZUp has made my camping so much more enjoyable. It's sturdy
and stable and I think quite handsome!
Chalk it up to the guy got up on the wrong side of the bed and forget about
it.
Happy Trails - Sherry
'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
------------------------------
Message Number: 17
Date: 29 May 2002 22:15:28 -0600
From: Robert Davis <rob-iod@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution
Everyone talks about using a Thetford to Valterra adapter for "older"
trailers. We have tried every adapter, elbow, fitting, etc. currently
available but none fit. Our hunch is that trailers prior to '65 have a
different Thetford lug design. Does anyone know if Sewer Solution has a
unit that fits "older-older" trailers?
Rob Davis
'64 GT
Denver,CO
------------------------------
Message Number: 18
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:23:48 -0600
From: "Terry O'Neill" <woodfloor@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Hi Bob
I believe "add a room"s used to be available for Airstreams. Maybe someone
on the list has pics of one.
Take Care
Terry O'Neill
Calgary
66 Trade-Wind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
http://pages.sprint.ca/Streamsite/main.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:35 PM
Subject: [VAC] California Room Wanted!
> I have a concrete pad next to my coach. It is 14'x 8' and is perfectly
> positioned to be floor base for a "California Room". The picture on my
home
> page shows the spot very clearly. These type rooms are very common
> throughout this park and definitely add a lot of living space to the
> trailers. My problem is that I don't see a way to seal the unit against
the
> Airstream. I want to maintain portability and be able to dock the trailer
> against the California Room. Does anyone have any pictures or plans of
such
> a structure?
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 19
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 05:20:22 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <fmhill@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution
At 22:15 05/29/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Everyone talks about using a Thetford to Valterra adapter for "older"
>trailers. We have tried every adapter, elbow, fitting, etc. currently
>available but none fit. Our hunch is that trailers prior to '65 have a
>different Thetford lug design. Does anyone know if Sewer Solution has a
>unit that fits "older-older" trailers?
.
Hi Bob,
I have just finished with this same problem with my '64 Ambassador.
Yes, the 1964 and older trailers with Thetford sewer hookups are
different than the later trailers with sewer hookups from Thetford.
Somewhere around 1965, Thetford seems to have changed the design
increasing the diameter of the lugs and seal surface 3/8" in diameter.
I was forced into this due to the fact the previous owner of the trailer
unknowingly had purchased newer Thetford elbow coupling and end cap,
with a new sewer pipe, both of which did not fit right and could not be
relied upon.
After much messing around trying to find an adapter, (Valtera makes an
adapter for the mid '60s and later Thetford but it does not work on the
1964 and earlier trailers equipped with the earlier design Thetford sewer
hookup), I ended up getting a new type Thetford lug ring adapter from
InlandRV.
The only person I found that knew why they didn't fit, and how to fix the
problem is Gary at InlandRV. Gary was able to supply the new lug ring
part to epoxy onto the old Thetford valve "Y" tail piece. The "Y" tail piece
is no longer available.
I had to saw off the lugs of the old tail piece (the 'Y" tail piece with the
undersized lugs. I then epoxied the new lugged ring onto the old tail piece.
In order to remove the tail piece so I could work on it in the shop, I used a
hacksaw blade to saw between the two elbows connecting the drains to
the tail piece. When reassembling the modified tail piece, use a 2" to 2 1/2"
long piece of 3" radiator hose and a pair of hose clamps over the shoulders
of the drain pipe elbows as a coupling.
Trust me, Removing the tail piece from the trailer is the best way to tackle
this job.
If you end up having to do this, do not shorten the tail piece, just saw the
lugs off the out side so the ring slips over them. You do not have to cut
them down to the surface of the tail piece, the inside of the lug ring adapter
will be about 1/8" larger than the outside diameter of the old tail piece.
I used a slow curing semi-thick epoxy to fill the void. The new lug adapter
ring has a new seal surface that fits over the end of the old tail piece so it
can be placed face down on a flat surface, set the end of the tail piece
into the ring, then fill the space between the old tail piece and the
new ring. I used Scotchweld 2216BA epoxy (grey)... Let it setup for 24
hrs preferably in a warm (between 60 and 105 deg F) location. It is really
simpler to do than I make it sound.
This makes a most satisfactory fix. With the new Thetford lug ring installed,
I can get Thetford fittings anywhere, and the Valtera adaptor for Thetford
now works reliably.
My thanks to Gary for pointing me in the direction of this fix.
Mitch Hill - K1FH / AFA1HN
64 AS Ambassador I'ntl
WBCCI #21960
------------------------------
Message Number: 20
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 07:18:59 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: link wanted
Toby Folwick wrote:
>looking for a link to the guy (in the northeast?) who
>refurbishes airstreams for people with medical
>sensitivities.
Main site:
http://www.healthy-homes.com/
Airstreams:
http://www.healthy-homes.com/trailers.htm
--
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 21
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:59:35 -0400
From: Dave Lowrey <dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
At 08:23 AM 5/29/2002 -0700, Bob Kiger wrote:
>I have also been taught to keep the black tank valve closed and use
>deodorant even while "permanently" hooked to city sewer lines. I open the
>valve weekly or as needed. This practice is supposed to prevent the buildup
>of paper in the bottom of the tank, which can become like paper mache if it
>keeps dropping and drying. Keeping the valve closed eliminates the drying
>and reduces clogging in the tank. For the list vets, have I been taught
>correctly?
That is what I was taught as well.
Dave
------------------------------
Message Number: 22
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:55:46 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution
Rob, not that I know about but give them a call -- (888) 752-6999.
Unless you have the 3" metal outlet I thought all Thetford fittings were the
same.
Jim Greene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Davis" <rob-iod@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 0:15
Subject: [VAC] Re: Sewer Solution
> Everyone talks about using a Thetford to Valterra adapter for "older"
> trailers. We have tried every adapter, elbow, fitting, etc. currently
> available but none fit. Our hunch is that trailers prior to '65 have a
> different Thetford lug design. Does anyone know if Sewer Solution has a
> unit that fits "older-older" trailers?
>
> Rob Davis
> '64 GT
> Denver,CO
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 23
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 15:30:15 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <fmhill@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution
Correction:
At 05:20 05/30/2002 +0000, I wrote:
>The only person I found that knew why they didn't fit, and how to fix the
>problem is Gary at InlandRV. Gary was able to supply the new lug ring
>part to epoxy onto the old Thetford valve "Y" tail piece. The "Y" tail piece
>is no longer available.
The gentleman's name is Greg not Gary... My apologies Greg, and thanks for
your help.
Mitch Hill - K1FH / AFA1HN
64 AS Ambassador I'ntl
WBCCI #21960
------------------------------
Message Number: 24
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:02:03 -0600
From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Tim: I tried one of these on my '66 Overlander, and it filled my bathtub
with unmentionables. In order for this to work, shut off valves would need
to be installed on the grey water drain pipes (My Overlander has twin grey
pipes leading to the black drain pipe).
Randy Unter
'66 Overlander
Denver
> I need to get a sewer drain hose for my '71 Safari. I was looking into
the
> Sewer Solution at www.sewersolution.com.
>
> It will shoot water from a hose back up into your holding tank to clean it
> out.
>
> On an older airstream w/o a grey tank like mine, wouldn't that shoot water
> out of all the drains in the trailer since the drain lines connect to the
> black tank output and there is no valve to stop it?
------------------------------
Message Number: 25
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:16:10 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
That is what I thought might happen.
Did it do that during the dumping or the backwash only?
-Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:02 AM
Subject: [VAC] Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> Tim: I tried one of these on my '66 Overlander, and it filled my bathtub
> with unmentionables. In order for this to work, shut off valves would need
> to be installed on the grey water drain pipes (My Overlander has twin grey
> pipes leading to the black drain pipe).
>
> Randy Unter
> '66 Overlander
> Denver
>
> > I need to get a sewer drain hose for my '71 Safari. I was looking into
> the
> > Sewer Solution at www.sewersolution.com.
> >
> > It will shoot water from a hose back up into your holding tank to clean
it
> > out.
> >
> > On an older airstream w/o a grey tank like mine, wouldn't that shoot
water
> > out of all the drains in the trailer since the drain lines connect to
the
> > black tank output and there is no valve to stop it?
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 26
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:33:36 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Hi Terry!
Hope the weather has warmed in Calgary. I did a lookup on "add-a-room"
and found many listings BUT none that were permanent. I am looking for a
hard wall construction with a shed type roof. Walls and roof made of
aluminum. Wooden post and beam would be OK but aluminum post and beam would
be preferable.
The many listings I reviewed were for canvas type "structures" that were
attached. I wouldn't consider them for a permanent residence. The main
issue is not construction of the "California Room" but a method of attaching
it with a water proof seal against the curved Airstream hull. Of course, I
would not want to permanently harm the Airstream. Something like the boot
that seals a PU cab to a camper shell might work. I'm hoping that somebody
has done this OR seen it in a park somewhere.
Thanks again Terry. You're always a great help!
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
> I believe "add a room"s used to be available for Airstreams. Maybe someone
> on the list has pics of one.
> Terry O'Neill
> Calgary
------------------------------
Message Number: 27
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:57:29 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
It's so obvious that if you force water up a pipe and throughut that has not
obstruction it will continue to rise into "unmentionable" areas. There
would have to be a closure of some sort and there is none on the older units
that do not have a gray water tank.
The reports of success using a backwash on older (no gray tank) units could
be attributed to finesse:) Just the right amount of pressure could clean
the bottom of the black tank and not make it's way up to the
"unmentionables". I still recomment a wand spraying down throught the
commode to clean and flush the tank.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> That is what I thought might happen.
>
> Did it do that during the dumping or the backwash only?
>
> -Tim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:02 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Sewer Solution on older airstreams
>
>
> > Tim: I tried one of these on my '66 Overlander, and it filled my bathtub
> > with unmentionables. In order for this to work, shut off valves would
need
> > to be installed on the grey water drain pipes (My Overlander has twin
grey
> > pipes leading to the black drain pipe).
> >
> > Randy Unter
> > '66 Overlander
> > Denver
> >
> > > I need to get a sewer drain hose for my '71 Safari. I was looking
into
> > the
> > > Sewer Solution at www.sewersolution.com.
> > >
> > > It will shoot water from a hose back up into your holding tank to
clean
> it
> > > out.
> > >
> > > On an older airstream w/o a grey tank like mine, wouldn't that shoot
> water
> > > out of all the drains in the trailer since the drain lines connect to
> the
> > > black tank output and there is no valve to stop it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> >
> > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 28
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:06:02 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
One recommendation that I received off list was the "Tropic Room" from Zip
Dee. I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the unit and got a
lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was illegible. Called
Zip Dee and they did not see any problems and said that a previous caller
with the same problem ended up being the setup on the caller's computer.
The page in question is http://www.zipdeeinc.com/PatioAwnings.html
If anyone would care to check it, I would appreciate knowing if there is a
problem. If no problem exists (except on my computer) there is no need to
follow up.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
------------------------------
Message Number: 29
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:38:24 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Bob, I went to the ZipDee site and it came up with no problem. Try this
URL:
http://www.zipdeeinc.com/Accessories.html
That should take you right to the Tropic Room picture.
Roger
Roger Hightower, N7KT
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net
------------------------------
Message Number: 30
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:44:31 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
My Airstream wrote:
>One recommendation that I received off list was the "Tropic Room" from Zip
>Dee. I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the unit and got a
>lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was illegible. Called
>Zip Dee and they did not see any problems and said that a previous caller
>with the same problem ended up being the setup on the caller's computer.
>The page in question is http://www.zipdeeinc.com/PatioAwnings.html
>
>If anyone would care to check it, I would appreciate knowing if there is a
>problem. If no problem exists (except on my computer) there is no need to
>follow up.
Nope- it's a badly broken webpage- I tried with IE6, Mozilla
1.0RC1, and Opera 6.02, and it looks the same in all- there are a
whole *bunch* of layer errors on the site.
Strangely enough, you can view it through "anybrowser":
http://www.anybrowser.com/siteviewer.html put the url in and it comes
up (?).
--
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 31
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:05:50 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Well goodness gracious. Thank you Chris. I was just about to start tearing
apart my monitors vertical height in an effort to see how Roger was getting
a great page while I was getting overlapping type and pix.
I checked the out Anybrowser and though it seperates all the type overlaps,
I am certain that the layout is not what ZipDee intended. The yellow header
band is on top of the type and the various "departments" are staggered
diagonally. I think that Anybrowser is using it's technology to make Zip
Dee legible but not aesthetically correct. Thanks again for the cross
check.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Bryant" <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:44 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: California Room Wanted!
> My Airstream wrote:
>
> >One recommendation that I received off list was the "Tropic Room" from
Zip
> >Dee. I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the unit and got
a
> >lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was illegible.
Called
> >Zip Dee and they did not see any problems and said that a previous caller
> >with the same problem ended up being the setup on the caller's computer.
> >The page in question is http://www.zipdeeinc.com/PatioAwnings.html
> >
> >If anyone would care to check it, I would appreciate knowing if there is
a
> >problem. If no problem exists (except on my computer) there is no need
to
> >follow up.
>
> Nope- it's a badly broken webpage- I tried with IE6, Mozilla
> 1.0RC1, and Opera 6.02, and it looks the same in all- there are a
> whole *bunch* of layer errors on the site.
> Strangely enough, you can view it through "anybrowser":
> http://www.anybrowser.com/siteviewer.html put the url in and it comes
> up (?).
>
> --
> Chris Bryant
> mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 32
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:06:55 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: DipDee Site
Bob, the page looks just fine in IE5 and Netscape 4.7, BUT
The page uses Cascading Style Sheets with fixed position images, so..
If you are not using IE5 or Netscape4 or later, you need to move into
the new millennium and upgrade. Also, reduce the font size with what
you view the pages in, and turn off the "override page font" option if
you have it selected.
Best of luck,
RJ
VAC Webmaster
> I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the
> unit and got a
> lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was
> illegible. Called
> Zip Dee and they did not see any problems and said that a
> previous caller
> with the same problem ended up being the setup on the
> caller's computer.
> The page in question is http://www.zipdeeinc.com/PatioAwnings.html
>
> If anyone would care to check it, I would appreciate knowing
> if there is a
> problem. If no problem exists (except on my computer) there
> is no need to
> follow up.
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 33
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:24:36 -0600
From: "Terry O'Neill" <woodfloor@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Appears the same on mine. (overlapped etc)
Take Care
Terry O'Neill
Calgary
66 Trade-Wind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
http://pages.sprint.ca/Streamsite/main.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the unit and got a
> lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was illegible.
Called
> Zip Dee and they did not see any problems and said that a previous caller
> with the same problem ended up being the setup on the caller's computer.
> The page in question is http://www.zipdeeinc.com/PatioAwnings.html
>
> If anyone would care to check it, I would appreciate knowing if there is a
> problem. If no problem exists (except on my computer) there is no need to
> follow up.
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 34
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:40:45 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <fmhill@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
At 10:06 05/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>One recommendation that I received off list was the "Tropic Room" from Zip
>Dee. I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the unit and got a
>lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was illegible. Called
>Zip Dee and they did not see any problems and said that a previous caller
>with the same problem ended up being the setup on the caller's computer.
>The page in question is http://www.zipdeeinc.com/PatioAwnings.html
>
>If anyone would care to check it, I would appreciate knowing if there is a
>problem. If no problem exists (except on my computer) there is no need to
>follow up.
.
Bob,
I just went to the Zip-Dee page by clicking on your hyper-link in the
message and the page was fine. I know from past experience, this can be a
matter of what browser you are using as well as settings. I am using
Netscape Communicator Version 4.79 in Windows98 2nd Ed.... What browser
are you using? Lets pursue this direct, not on the list...
Mitch Hill - K1FH / AFA1HN
64 AS Ambassador I'ntl
WBCCI #21960
------------------------------
Message Number: 35
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 15:01:29 -0400
From: Porter Gillian L CRPH <PorterGL@xxxxxxxxxx.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 07:13:45 -0400
> From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
>
> Tim, it doesn't on my ' 68 Tradewind. Works fine and was money well spent as
> far as I'm concerned. You will need an adapter ($5) to go between your
> Thetford dump outlet and the Valterra fitting on the Sewer Solution. Drain
> the black tank first and then turn the SS valve to rinse the black tank.
> Doesn't take a lot of rinsing.
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
>
I purchased one for my '64 and I got the adapter, but I haven't been able to use it yet.
The adapter is too loose. It appears the older Thetford valve is a little smaller. Anyone
have a solution for this? Replace the fitting? Caulking? Duct tape!
Gillian
'64 GlobeTrotter
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 36
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:10:49 -0500
From: "gina terrell" <terrellgina@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
I have a Macerator works GREAT. I use it with a composting drum but It would
work even better with a regular sewer system
gina
>From: "Roger Hightower" <n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
>Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>Subject: [VAC] Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
>Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:18:50 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Received: from [12.232.139.193] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailBEBEB83100924004314E0CE88BC1FD630; Wed, 29 May 2002 17:07:17 -0700
>Received: from 192.168.123.2 by hpserver.airstream.net (InterScan E-Mail
>VirusWall NT); Wed, 29 May 2002 17:05:26 -0700
>Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net
>[204.127.131.47])by vintageairstream.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
>g4TFLGd00574for <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>; Wed, 29 May 2002 08:21:16 -0700
>(PDT)
>Received: from hppav ([12.83.80.148]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net
> (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id
><20020529152108.SWOV13408.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@hppav>
>From admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com Wed, 29 May 2002 17:08:09 -0700
>Sender: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>Errors-To: admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>Message-Id: <000d01c20724$23e93ba0$9450530c@hppav>
>Precedence: Bulk
>X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1.5 - Macintosh Listserver
>
>The sewersolution won't shoot any water into your system unless you want it
>to. It depends on where you set the valve position. Normally, it just
>pulverizes the waste so it's in a more liquid form.
>
>Roger
>
>Roger Hightower, N7KT
>WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
>1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
>Mesa, AZ
>mailto:n7kt@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>
>
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
>http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
>When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
------------------------------
Message Number: 37
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:41:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Leggett <pklhead2@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Curtain rail aluminum extrusion source?
I'm looking for a cost-effective source for the lower
aluminum curtain tracks (or reasonable facsimile) as
used on the 2001 Airstreams. I need lengths 50", 42"
& 26". Measures about 5/8" wide with 1/4" groove for
a "T"-shaped button to run in.
Local RV supply/dealers tell me the aluminum is
stocked in 10' or 12' lengths and as a result must be
shipped by truck at a cost 3 times the value of the
material. ($60 bucks to ship a $15 part). UPS limits
at 8' length. And nobody wants to cut a piece to meet
UPS limits.
Any sources or ideas?
Thanks,
John Leggett
1968 Safari
San Francisco area
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 38
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:56:20 -0700
From: James Clark <jec1938@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Bob:
I am running Opera as my browser and it likes the page just fine...
We have one of the tropic rooms and I can tell you that it snaps to the
side of the trailer and across the top of the awning... The previous owner
used it quite a lot, but we have yet to put it up... It travels in a
plastic tub about 24 x 18 x 18 (aprox.) There is a small bag with some
metal tubes that I am not sure what to do with... hopefully I can follow
the directions when the time comes...
Jim
At 11:05 AM 5/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Well goodness gracious. Thank you Chris. I was just about to start tearing
>apart my monitors vertical height in an effort to see how Roger was getting
>a great page while I was getting overlapping type and pix.
>I checked the out Anybrowser and though it seperates all the type overlaps,
>I am certain that the layout is not what ZipDee intended. The yellow header
>band is on top of the type and the various "departments" are staggered
>diagonally. I think that Anybrowser is using it's technology to make Zip
>Dee legible but not aesthetically correct. Thanks again for the cross
>check.
>
>Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
>66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
>Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Bryant" <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:44 AM
>Subject: [VAC] Re: California Room Wanted!
>
>
> > My Airstream wrote:
> >
> > >One recommendation that I received off list was the "Tropic Room" from
>Zip
> > >Dee. I went to the Zip Dee website to see a picture of the unit and got
>a
> > >lot of "smearing and overlaping type". At points it was illegible.
>Called
> > >Zip Dee and they did not see any problems and said that a previous caller
> > >with the same problem ended up being the setup on the caller's computer.
> > >The page in question is http://www.zipdeeinc.com/PatioAwnings.html
> > >
> > >If anyone would care to check it, I would appreciate knowing if there is
>a
> > >problem. If no problem exists (except on my computer) there is no need
>to
> > >follow up.
> >
> > Nope- it's a badly broken webpage- I tried with IE6, Mozilla
> > 1.0RC1, and Opera 6.02, and it looks the same in all- there are a
> > whole *bunch* of layer errors on the site.
> > Strangely enough, you can view it through "anybrowser":
> > http://www.anybrowser.com/siteviewer.html put the url in and it comes
> > up (?).
> >
> > --
> > Chris Bryant
> > mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> >
> > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
>http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
>When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 39
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 15:51:28 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Randy, how long did you run the rinse water with the valve turned so it was
shooting water up the black water drain. Sounds to me like you should have
had the water pressure pointed down the Sewer Solution drain hose instead of
toward the black water tank (except to rinse after the black tank has
emptied). It works fine when it's operated correctly on my ' 68 Tradewind.
Jim Greene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:02
Subject: [VAC] Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> Tim: I tried one of these on my '66 Overlander, and it filled my bathtub
> with unmentionables. In order for this to work, shut off valves would need
> to be installed on the grey water drain pipes (My Overlander has twin grey
> pipes leading to the black drain pipe).
>
> Randy Unter
> '66 Overlander
> Denver
------------------------------
Message Number: 40
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:10:35 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
Bob Kiger wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> The reports of success using a backwash on older (no gray tank) units
could
> be attributed to finesse:) Just the right amount of pressure could clean
> the bottom of the black tank and not make it's way up to the
> "unmentionables". I still recomment a wand spraying down throught the
> commode to clean and flush the tank.
Bob, I attribute my success to reading and following the directions.
You know, when all else fails ...
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
------------------------------
Message Number: 41
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:28:46 -0400
From: "Richard P. Kenan" <as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
> Nope- it's a badly broken webpage- I tried with IE6, Mozilla
>1.0RC1, and Opera 6.02, and it looks the same in all- there are a
>whole *bunch* of layer errors on the site.
Strange indeed...I viewed it without any problem using IE
6.0.2600.0000IC. So, it cannot be a broken web page, can it?
- Dick
(5369)
"God Himself, sir, does not propose to judge a man until his life is over.
Why should you and I?"
-Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)
---------------------------------------
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
------------------------------
Message Number: 42
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:40:12 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Sewer Solution on older airstreams
> Bob Kiger wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > The reports of success using a backwash on older (no gray tank) units
> could be attributed to finesse:)
> Bob, I attribute my success to reading and following the directions.
> You know, when all else fails ...
> Jim Greene
Touché . . . or is that Douché :)
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
------------------------------
Message Number: 43
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:50:17 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
To save the time and internet traffic I am sharing this information, the
HTML code used on Zip Dee's pages was generated by "Elemental Software
Drumbeat 2000 3.04.411". It was sophisticated software created by the
company in Geneva, Switzerland back in the last millennium. It was
especially designed for use with IBM servers and was fully Java compatible.
I have an email query into the company to see why some are able to view
perfectly while others see anomalies.
Those of us who don't see it well are generally running later model
Browsers. (IE6 for example) Earlier or unusual browsers (like Opera) seem
to handle it quite well. Will forward any response I get from Elemental
Software.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Clark" <jec1938@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Bob:
> I am running Opera as my browser and it likes the page just fine...
------------------------------
Message Number: 44
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:09:46 -0400
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <mprice@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
>Strange indeed...I viewed it without any problem using IE
>6.0.2600.0000IC. So, it cannot be a broken web page, can it?
I joined the list yesterday so I may as well use this opportunity to say
hello to everyone. My wife and I are the proud new owners of a 1972
Trade Wind and I have a whole heap of questions that I intent to trickle
into the list over the next few weeks so as to not become a nuisance.
My day job is as a web developer and I may be able to shed some light on
the web site anomaly. We have load balanced web servers. The first time
you hit a page on one of our sites you get the least busy server. Every
subsequent visit to the server you get your original server whether it
is the least busy or not. This situation continues until the server is
restarted and it "forgets" you.
When changes are made to a page they are supposed to propagate to all
the servers, sometimes, computers being what they are the changes don't
make it to all the servers. This leads to a situation where one page is
broken and the identical page on another server isn't.
Many times we have two developers sitting next to each other loading the
same page, one with a problem, the other not. You can't tell which
server you are being served from, they all seem to the outside world to
have the same IP address.
Maybe that is the situation here.
Melvin Mudgett-Price
------------------------------
Message Number: 45
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:26:47 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <fmhill@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
At 16:28 05/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>> Nope- it's a badly broken webpage- I tried with IE6, Mozilla
>>1.0RC1, and Opera 6.02, and it looks the same in all- there are a
>>whole *bunch* of layer errors on the site.
>
>Strange indeed...I viewed it without any problem using IE
>6.0.2600.0000IC. So, it cannot be a broken web page, can it?
>
>- Dick
>(5369)
.
It is definitely not a "broke" page... I suspect people who are not seeing
the www.zipdeeinc.com/patioawnings.html page correctly, possibly have a
parameter setting that is not normal, are using a incompatible video
mode(most likely) , or possibly a corrupted version of their browser..
As these messages regarding the ZipDee patio awning page have collected, my
curiosity as a network manager has grown. Using different computers in my
facility, I have connected directly to the page using the address Bob has
listed, first with Netscape 4.79, then Netscape 6.2, then with MS Explorer
5.0 and then with MS Explorer 6.0.2600.0000 (The very latest version,
installed this afternoon).
My suggestion is, If you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.???, I
suggest you connect to Microsoft and upgrade to the current version. If you
still have trouble with the ZipDee page, then look at your video
settings...
Mitch Hill - K1FH / AFA1HN
64 AS Ambassador I'ntl
WBCCI #21960
------------------------------
Message Number: 46
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:44:38 -0400
From: "Lewis A. Lindner" <llindner@xxxxxxxxxx.service.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
5/30/2002 2:09:46 PM, Melvin Mudgett-Price <mprice@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
>Many times we have two developers sitting next to each other loading the
>same page, one with a problem, the other not. You can't tell which
>server you are being served from, they all seem to the outside world to
>have the same IP address.
>
>Maybe that is the situation here.
>
I wonder if this doesn't hit it. I tried with Opera 5 and 6, Netscape 4.79, and IE 6 -- all
were fine.
Lew #4239
'72 Safari
bicycle
------------------------------
Message Number: 47
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:02:48 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill wrote:
<<..>>
>It is definitely not a "broke" page... I suspect people who are not seeing
>the www.zipdeeinc.com/patioawnings.html page correctly, possibly have a
>parameter setting that is not normal, are using a incompatible video
>mode(most likely) , or possibly a corrupted version of their browser..
<<..>>
>My suggestion is, If you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.???, I
>suggest you connect to Microsoft and upgrade to the current version. If you
>still have trouble with the ZipDee page, then look at your video
>settings...
My last post on this most off topic topic- it definately *is*
a broken page- the HTML coding is atrocious. FWIW- I looked at it with
*the* most recent versions of IE, Opera, Mozilla, and Galeon (I didn't
try Lynx, as that would be cheating). I suspect that *my* problem is
my video settings, but the whole concept of HTML should make a
properly coded page render correctly with whatever I prefer to run my
monitor at (1024 X 768- font size at 125%). I'm not about to change
the settings which actually let me read web pages (with somewhat sub
par eye sight) (remainder of rant snipped- you get the idea <g>).
--
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 48
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:15:41 -0400
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Bob et. al.,
Both pages worked fine using Netscape 4.75.
FWIW,
Matt
Chris Bryant wrote:
> My Airstream wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> >If anyone would care to check it, I would appreciate knowing if there is a
> >problem. If no problem exists (except on my computer) there is no need to
> >follow up.
>
> Nope- it's a badly broken webpage- I tried with IE6, Mozilla
> 1.0RC1, and Opera 6.02, and it looks the same in all- there are a
> whole *bunch* of layer errors on the site.
> Strangely enough, you can view it through "anybrowser":
> http://www.anybrowser.com/siteviewer.html put the url in and it comes
> up (?).
>
> --
> Chris Bryant
> mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
------------------------------
Message Number: 49
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:19:18 -0400
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Curtain rail aluminum extrusion source?
John,
Where about have you found the material? Maybe someone on the list is
local enough to pick up and cut up for you, then ship. If a supplier is in
NY metro area, I can handle that.
Matt
John Leggett wrote:
> I'm looking for a cost-effective source for the lower
> aluminum curtain tracks (or reasonable facsimile) as
> used on the 2001 Airstreams. I need lengths 50", 42"
> & 26". Measures about 5/8" wide with 1/4" groove for
> a "T"-shaped button to run in.
>
> Local RV supply/dealers tell me the aluminum is
> stocked in 10' or 12' lengths and as a result must be
> shipped by truck at a cost 3 times the value of the
> material. ($60 bucks to ship a $15 part). UPS limits
> at 8' length. And nobody wants to cut a piece to meet
> UPS limits.
>
> Any sources or ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> John Leggett
> 1968 Safari
> San Francisco area
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
------------------------------
Message Number: 50
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:26:22 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
You guys & gals are great! It would be great just chill on whether this
or that browser will correctly render Drumbeat HTML. I emailed "Elemental
Software" in Geneva. They have sold "Drumbeat" to Macromedia. I have an
email into the Drumbeat support group at Google. I hope they can provide an
answer for us.
I would like to stray back on topic and ask if anybody has docked an
Airstream against a hard wall room of any sort?
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <fmhill@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:26 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: California Room Wanted!
> At 16:28 05/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >> Nope- it's a badly broken webpage- I tried with IE6, Mozilla
> >>1.0RC1, and Opera 6.02, and it looks the same in all- there are a
> >>whole *bunch* of layer errors on the site.
> >
> >Strange indeed...I viewed it without any problem using IE
> >6.0.2600.0000IC. So, it cannot be a broken web page, can it?
> >
> >- Dick
> >(5369)
> .
>
> It is definitely not a "broke" page... I suspect people who are not
seeing
> the www.zipdeeinc.com/patioawnings.html page correctly, possibly have a
> parameter setting that is not normal, are using a incompatible video
> mode(most likely) , or possibly a corrupted version of their browser..
>
> As these messages regarding the ZipDee patio awning page have collected,
my
> curiosity as a network manager has grown. Using different computers in my
> facility, I have connected directly to the page using the address Bob has
> listed, first with Netscape 4.79, then Netscape 6.2, then with MS Explorer
> 5.0 and then with MS Explorer 6.0.2600.0000 (The very latest version,
> installed this afternoon).
>
> My suggestion is, If you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.???, I
> suggest you connect to Microsoft and upgrade to the current version. If
you
> still have trouble with the ZipDee page, then look at your video
> settings...
>
>
> Mitch Hill - K1FH / AFA1HN
> 64 AS Ambassador I'ntl
> WBCCI #21960
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
>
> When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
>
------------------------------
Message Number: 51
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:39:42 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Curtain rail aluminum extrusion source?
John Leggett wrote:
>I'm looking for a cost-effective source for the lower
>aluminum curtain tracks (or reasonable facsimile) as
>used on the 2001 Airstreams. I need lengths 50", 42"
>& 26". Measures about 5/8" wide with 1/4" groove for
>a "T"-shaped button to run in.
I'm not sure if it is the correct profile, but All Rite (
http://www.all-rite.com/ ) carries "EZ Track" a colonial white
aluminum curtain track with that profile- I couldn't find it on the
website, but it is stock #145 in the paper catalog. They are in
Hollister, Ca.
It does come in 12' lengths, but they have always been willing
to cut extrusions for UPS shipment before.
They tend to be expensive, but they have, and will ship,
small, oddball things like this.
--
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 52
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:43:56 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
My Airstream wrote:
>I would like to stray back on topic and ask if anybody has docked an
>Airstream against a hard wall room of any sort?
Humph- back on topic <g>. You know, when thinking about this
subject, I just keep thinking about the "Jetways" (what the heck are
they called) at airports that snug up againt the airplanes. A solid
structure with flexible fabric and a big gasket.
--
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
------------------------------
Message Number: 53
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:46:22 -0400
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: California Room Wanted!
Bob,
Haven't seen it done, but if I were so inclined I would look at making the roof
long enough to extend over the trailer with enough of a ridge to shed water to
the far side of the trailer's curve, and cantilevered to allow the trailer
egress and ingress.
Would insect screening be an issue that close to the ocean? Maybe some mosquito
netting along the edges that are over the trailer, hung to drape over the
Airstream when it's there. Would the rubbing netting add to or detract from the
polish job.
Hmm...
Matt
My Airstream wrote:
> <snip>
> I would like to stray back on topic and ask if anybody has docked an
> Airstream against a hard wall room of any sort?
>
--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
------------------------------
End of VACList-Digest #319
************************************
To unsubscribe or change to a e-mail format format, please go to
http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text