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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Heads Down
2. Re: Heads Down
3. Re: Dometic M16
4. Re: Dometic M16
5. Re: Heads Down
6. Re: Heads Down
7. Re: Heads Down
8. Re: Dometic M16
9. It's Spartan mansion
10. Re: Dometic M16
11. Re: It's Spartan mansion
12. Re: Heads Down
13. Re: Heads Down
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:07:44 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Heads Down
I can think of a number of smart A remarks about silicon grease on the
valve, but I don't know actually. I would be more likely just to spray
silicone now and then. The green stuff that you put into the black tank
allegedly has lubricants in it for the lower valve, or maybe it was that
we are not supposed to put stuff in there that would unlubricate the
valve. When I first used the lower valve it was stuck bad. I sprayed
silicone everywhere and just kept wiggling it.
happy flushing,
Daisy
My Airstream wrote:
>
> Thanks Daisy,
> I'll give it a gentle scraping in the morning. The leak is soooo slow
> that I feel there can't be too much obstructing it. I was also thinking
> about coating the inside of the groove with silicon grease. Do you think
> that would be good or bad for the problem?
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
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Message Number: 2
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:22:40 -0600
From: gshippen <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Heads Down
Hi folks,
I replaced the toilet in our 1966 Overlander with a Sealand "low profile"
toilet. I simply enlarged the already existing hole in the fiberglass. I
welded a bracket on which the toilet sits and supports all weight. It is a
different color white, but we have found the Sealand to be very functional and
uses only as much water as you need to flush. I think if I had to do it over I
would have installed the large type Sealand toilet which seemed to have a bowl
about four inches longer. Good luck.
GAS
My Airstream wrote:
> Charlotte,
> Did they bust up the bench between the sink and the closet on the back
> wall of the coach? Or did they/you fit the aftermarket toilets in the
> existing one piece plastic molded bench/tub. You can see my existing stock
> installation at: http://members.cox.net/bobkiger/interior/index.htm
> I think Airstream was pretty smart about these old coaches. When the door
> to the bathroom is open and the head cover is down, it is comfortable
> seating for a person conversing with others in the lounge and galley. The
> clean lines make the look of the trailer much longer than if the bathroom
> door were constantly closed. If the head were a pedestal type I would
> surely keep the door closed.
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charcigar" <stogie@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 9:09 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Heads Down
>
> > " What does everybody with older coaches do when their
> > toilet fails? Is there an aftermarket solution that will allow the look
> of
> > the original bathroom to remain. "
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > My '67 Safari was all original when I got it earlier this year...EXCEPT
> for
> > the toilet.Obviously,it had failed at some point in the past and some
> > ugly,plastic thing was installed.I had it replaced a Sealand ceramic
> toilet
> > and am VERY happy with the results.
> >
> > I can e-mail photos if you like...just let me know.
> >
> > Charlotte
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:24:45 -0400
From: "Eric and Linda Evans" <elevan@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16
Terry, that could have been a problem but we have gutted the Bambi and I am
a woodworker with a full shop. We will duplicate the cabinetry exactly.
This trailer was knee-deep in roaches and rodents so we have to redo every
square inch. We just finished the new floor and rewiring, both 12V and
110V. You are right, the closest matching refrigerator does make me have to
raise the cabinet slightly or not put the stove over it. Thanks for the
comment though. Eric
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Tyler" <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:43 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Dometic M16
> on 05/24/02 8:58 PM, elevan@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
> > Sissy, Linda and I are restoring our 61 Bambi right now and are not
planning
> > to use the old Dometic M16. I have removed it. My friend and I were
going
> > to try to see if it worked but Linda has already said she wanted me to
put a
> > new replacement in. Exactly what do you need and what does it look
like?
> > Eric and Linda Evans, Jacksonville, Florida.
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Tell me you have checked the dimensions of new refrigerators, that one of
> them will actually fit in the space now occupied by your old Dometic M16,
> and that you won't be facing a major woodworking (cabinetmaker) project.
>
> Terry
> mailto:tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>
>
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Message Number: 4
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:39:45 -0700
From: Webmaster <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16
What Terry is saying, is that there is no modern size equivalent to the old
Dometic M16. I know the hard way:
http://www.VintageAirstream.com/rr_topics_refer.html
Best of luck,
RJ
'65 Caravel
'57 Flying Cloud
> From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:43:42 -0400
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Dometic M16
>
> on 05/24/02 8:58 PM, elevan@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
>> Sissy, Linda and I are restoring our 61 Bambi right now and are not planning
>> to use the old Dometic M16. I have removed it. My friend and I were going
>> to try to see if it worked but Linda has already said she wanted me to put a
>> new replacement in. Exactly what do you need and what does it look like?
>> Eric and Linda Evans, Jacksonville, Florida.
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Tell me you have checked the dimensions of new refrigerators, that one of
> them will actually fit in the space now occupied by your old Dometic M16,
> and that you won't be facing a major woodworking (cabinetmaker) project.
>
> Terry
> mailto:tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:40:53 -0700
From: Charcigar <stogie@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Re: Heads Down
Bob,
I see from your layout what you mean.My '67 has a different layout,in that
the toilet was never enclosed in a bench.That made for an easier Sealand
install.
Charlotte
Charlotte,
Did they bust up the bench between the sink and the closet on the back
wall of the coach? Or did they/you fit the aftermarket toilets in the
existing one piece plastic molded bench/tub. You can see my existing stock
installation at: http://members.cox.net/bobkiger/interior/index.htm
I think Airstream was pretty smart about these old coaches. When the door
to the bathroom is open and the head cover is down, it is comfortable
seating for a person conversing with others in the lounge and galley. The
clean lines make the look of the trailer much longer than if the bathroom
door were constantly closed. If the head were a pedestal type I would
surely keep the door closed.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
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Message Number: 6
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:32:35 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Heads Down
----- Original Message -----
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Heads Down
> I replaced the toilet in our 1966 Overlander with a Sealand "low profile"
> toilet. I simply enlarged the already existing hole in the fiberglass.
So you didn't have to destroy the fiberglass bench. Where is the Sealand
flush handle or pedal? If pedal did it fit in the existing groove or did
you have to cut?
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
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Message Number: 7
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:45:51 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Heads Down
> Bob,
> I see from your layout what you mean.My '67 has a different layout,in
that
> the toilet was never enclosed in a bench.That made for an easier Sealand
> install. Charlotte
That's why I put the link to the interior photos of my coach. So often one
year can make a huge difference in style.
http://members.cox.net/bobkiger/interior/index.htm
Subject: [VAC] Re: Heads Down
Bob
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:56:08 -0600
From: "Andy Robinowitz" <andy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16
I hear the Dometic 2410 fits in nicely. Anyone out there replace a Dometic
M16 with a 2410?
Cheers,
Andy
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 06:55:43 -0500
From: "Todd McDonald" <tod47d@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: It's Spartan mansion
Good call on the Spartan Mansion- just excactly what it is. I couldn't link
to that club's e-mail so maybe someone could forward info to the club ( or
maybe they are supposed to just fade out, they look impractical)
spartan-mansion?? military-intelligence,cruel-kindness et.-al. thanx
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 07:49:13 -0700
From: Webmaster <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16
Not even close when it comes to dimensions, something like 9 inches taller,
2 inches wider and 6 inches deeper. I like those controls on the bottom
though. The cheap plastic control panel they come with is best hidden. Some
of the lettering is already wearing off our new Dometic from turning the
knobs.
http://www.dometicusa.com/products/rv/dometic/compact.html
RJ
'65 Caravel
'57 Flying Cloud
> From: "Andy Robinowitz" <andy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:56:08 -0600
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Dometic M16
>
> I hear the Dometic 2410 fits in nicely. Anyone out there replace a Dometic
> M16 with a 2410?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
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Message Number: 11
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:58:04 -0600
From: "Airstream" <airstream@insideout-design.net>
Subject: Re: It's Spartan mansion
Here's a beautifully restored 1946 Spartan Mansion
http://www.vintage-vacations.com/1946_spartan_manor.htm
and some brochure information on the company & models made
http://www.vintage-vacations.com/spartan.htm
and a link to Tin Can Tourists
http://www.tincantourists.com/tidbits.html
Although they may not be a practical for travel, I think they are beautiful
to look at and an elegant representation of the era.
Shari
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:39:40 EDT
From: Alexkensington@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Heads Down
Bob -
Its in the linkage.
To see this clearly you will have to remove the plastic panel through which
the pedal extends into the coach. The step outside and reach through the One
Stop Service Center door (what a ridiculous name), and push down on the
pedal. It's hard to do with that stiff spring and bad angle you must reach
from, but All Will Be Revealed. Slop in the linkage lets the lever that the
fresh water is attached to to drop down and hang up on the body of the
sliding waste valve, and it can't close. Try shimming with washers, and a
gentle bend or two. It can be madding, but do-able. You must either have
someone operate the pedal while you watch from outside, or remove the above
mentioned panel and do it yourself.
While working on it I put an eye screw in the bathroom floor and tie the
pedal down with twine. This helps by holding everything open.
I wish I could send a picture, but I haven't the stuff to do it. Good Luck.
Alex In Indiana
66 Safari & Overlander
WBCCI 8728
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Message Number: 13
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 11:24:44 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Heads Down
Dear Alex,
Finding someone who has worked extensively on the same head in the same
model coach is invaluable.
I am printing out your linkage fix right now. Will get help in doing the
job. I have at least one other question but I don't want to tax you or bore
the list. I will send it after Memorial Day directly 2U.
Thanks,
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
----- Original Message -----
From: <Alexkensington@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Heads Down
> Bob -
>
> Its in the linkage.
> To see this clearly you will have to remove the plastic panel through
which
> the pedal extends into the coach. The step outside and reach through the
One
> Stop Service Center door (what a ridiculous name), and push down on the
> pedal. It's hard to do with that stiff spring and bad angle you must reach
> from, but All Will Be Revealed. Slop in the linkage lets the lever that
the
> fresh water is attached to to drop down and hang up on the body of the
> sliding waste valve, and it can't close. Try shimming with washers, and a
> gentle bend or two. It can be madding, but do-able. You must either have
> someone operate the pedal while you watch from outside, or remove the
above
> mentioned panel and do it yourself.
>
> While working on it I put an eye screw in the bathroom floor and tie the
> pedal down with twine. This helps by holding everything open.
>
> I wish I could send a picture, but I haven't the stuff to do it. Good
Luck.
>
> Alex In Indiana
> 66 Safari & Overlander
> WBCCI 8728
>
>
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