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VACList DigestVACList-Digest       Thursday, May 23, 2002      Issue 312
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Re: Propane lines
        2. Polarity Question - 65 TW
        3. Re: Safety Chains
        4. Re: Dometic M16
        5. Re: Tire replacement worries
        6. Re: Dometic M16
        7. Re: Dometic M16
        8. Re: Dometic M16
        9. Re: Argosy Restoration
       10. Re: Dometic M16
       11. Re: Polarity Question - 65 TW
       12. Re: Dometic M16




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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 20:12:52 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Propane lines

Bob, I wouldn't want propane lines in an enclosed area any more than I could
avoid -- just in case. I suppose that's why the tanks are on the outside.

Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Harper" <rharper@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:33
Subject: [VAC] Re: Propane lines


> Could someone please elaborate on the reasoning for running the propane
> lines "outboard"?  Meaning on the underside of the belly pan instead of
> above it.  And on a related subject (maybe), is it a major no-no to drill
> any holes in the vertical web of the main frame members for routing of
> wiring and/or water supply?
>
> Bob Harper
> '62 Globe Trotter in SC




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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:08:48 -0400
From: "Robin Leigh" <rgleigh@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Polarity Question - 65 TW

    While checking electrical connections for the A/C, I discovered that our
'65 TW, while plugged in at the house, has reverse polarity on the 120 VAC.
This came as a surprise because I knew the outlet I was using had the
correct polarity. The power cord could be the original- it has black, white
and green wires and a molded-on round plug with two flat pins angled at 120
degrees for the load and a round ground pin. I'm also using a one-piece
molded adapter to plug into the house outlet. The wires in the AS breaker
box are connected as expected- black on the breakers, white on the neutral
bus. Neither the plug nor the adapter offer any opportunities for tampering.

    Does anybody know what the situation is with old plugs? The best
explanation I can come up with is that the adapter is reversed internally.
When you look at the holes in the round side (where the trailer plug goes
in) the connections follow the same pattern as the 120v house outlets- with
the ground at the bottom, the line is on the right. Although I can't see
inside, the plug was evidently molded with the line on the left. Obviously,
I can wire my way around this but it would be nice to know how we got this
way before we wander away from home.

    Also, I just finished repairing the A/C (Bay Breeze original) with new
fan motor, wire and Al electrical enclosure to replace the rusty steel one.
The manual shows a very sketchy outline of a fairing that goes around the
rectangular A/C housing, plus there is a shiny area on the roof, evidence of
where the fairing used to be. All we have are two sections of louvers with
broken bits of plastic that were attached to the sides of the AC housing
with screws. Does anyone know what the AS fairing looked like? I'm assuming
the chances of finding one are near zero, but we need to put up something to
protect the condenser.

    Thanks, everyone, for all the answers we got from VACList without
asking.

    Gerie & Robin Leigh
    '65 TW Jacksonville Fl.
    rgleigh@xxxxxxxxxx.com





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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:11:24 -0500
From: "John R. Kleven" <jrkleven@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Safety Chains

I am doing both.  I would drill into the A-frame and secure the chains with
bolts, spray zinc on them, and then break out the Arc welder to add the
extra security.  Another coat of zinc before paint.  I agree that the older
chains are too thin.
Randy

----- Original Message -----
From: Terry O'Neill <woodfloor@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:36 PM
Subject: [VAC] Safety Chains


> My 66 TradeWind has a poor excuse for a safety chain. Just a single long
> chain that appears barely strong enough for a kids swing.
>
> Clearly I need something beefier for my pride and joy (not to mention for
> the safety of everyone else on the road)
>
> I called a few local RV dealers to check the preferred method. Some say
bolt
> a chain to the A-frame, others suggest welding it to the A frame. One even
> said I did not need chains if I have a brake break-away switch. Scary that
> this was a service person for a large SOB dealer.
>
> Any feedback regarding bolt-on versus welded would be appreciated.
>
> Take Care
>
> Terry O'Neill
> Calgary
> 66 Trade-Wind Double
> WBCCI 4786
> VAC
> http://pages.sprint.ca/Streamsite/main.html
>
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:39:56 -0400
From: "Sissy Brown" <SissyB@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16

I have a '61 Bambi with the original Dometic refrigerator.  It has worked
very well(until now).  One who will remail nameless decided to do something
to it when the flame wasn't quite right -- and then "found" half of the
"Burner inner stone" or "Ceramic head" (as described in information I have )
in the drawer under the stove....
Does anyone know the source of such a part for the fridge?  I've searched
the net for Dometic parts, but haven't found anything that sounds like this
part.
HELP!!
Thanks.
Sissy
Warner, NH



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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:57:55 -0500
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tire replacement worries

Hi Charlotte,

     I carry the trailer spare in the bed of my tow vehicle.  Here are some
pictures of the tire mounted in the bed, and of the mount.  Click on the
links below to see them.

http://www.tompatterson.com/VAC/Spare%20Tire/Spare1.jpg
http://www.tompatterson.com/VAC/Spare%20Tire/Spare2.jpg

-Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charcigar" <stogie@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: [VAC] Tire replacement worries


> Hi everyone,
>
>  It's time to replace the tires on my '67 Safari.I have been told that the
> best replacement tire would be the Goodyear Marathon ST/75R15,load range
D.
>
>  I now hear that these tires have been problematic in the past,and even
the
> subject of a recall last year.Should I be concerned about this,or has the
> problem been fixed?Anyone using recent issues of these tires?Is there
> another tire I should be considering?Any and all opinions appreciated!
>
>  And on a related note,do you all take your spare tire on every trip?I
> ask,as I hate that the only place I can store mine is on the tongue and I
> have just nicely polished that area....hate to cover it up!I have been
given
> an aerosal bottle of some stuff to use in case of a flat.It is supposed to
> "patch"  it from the inside.I was told that I could just go with this and
> carry an inflator that runs off my battery to get myself back on the road
in
> case of a flat.I am really unsure whether this is wise advice or not.Does
> anyone use this,or a similar method and leave their spare at home?
>
>  Thanks!
>
> Charlotte
>




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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:11:39 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16

Sissy,

If you haven't called Jay (800.658.5863) at OasisRV.com in Tuscon or written
to Charlie Burke (on this list) in Boise, Idaho or Chris Bryant (on this
list) in Florida, I'd suggest you do that. Each works for an Airstream
dealership and each knows where to find parts for oldies.

If you happen to live in the southeast (Jackson, Miss), then Billy Pollard's
place is another source to search. There's also an Airstream dealer in
Alabama who specializes in old Airstream parts. If you've already checked
these locations, then it may pay to go with the expensive guys (California)
who are into making up the old parts.

Rattle our cage again if you want further details on any of these sources.
Even though all of us are not always on line all the time, there are many
who can offer suggestions.

More difficult, but certainly doable, is to search Tom Patterson's archives
for comments made in passing. I've found sources there when no other was
obvious. 

The season is fast approaching when email is put on hold while we work
outside on our rigs or start traveling to places where phone hookups are
more inconvenient than during the winter months. I mention this so you don't
get discouraged if replies aren't abundant.

Good luck,

Terry

=========

on 05/22/02 10:39 PM, SissyB@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:

> I have a '61 Bambi with the original Dometic refrigerator.  It has worked
> very well(until now).  One who will remail nameless decided to do something
> to it when the flame wasn't quite right -- and then "found" half of the
> "Burner inner stone" or "Ceramic head" (as described in information I have )
> in the drawer under the stove....
> Does anyone know the source of such a part for the fridge?  I've searched
> the net for Dometic parts, but haven't found anything that sounds like this
> part.
> HELP!!
> Thanks.
> Sissy
> Warner, NH



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Message Number: 7
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:13:57 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16

Sissy Brown wrote:

>I have a '61 Bambi with the original Dometic refrigerator.  It has worked
>very well(until now).  One who will remail nameless decided to do something
>to it when the flame wasn't quite right -- and then "found" half of the
>"Burner inner stone" or "Ceramic head" (as described in information I have )
>in the drawer under the stove....
>Does anyone know the source of such a part for the fridge?  I've searched
>the net for Dometic parts, but haven't found anything that sounds like this
>part.

	I hat to say it- but I dought that you will be able to find
that part, unless you find someone who has a complete unit that has
died.
	But.. you might try calling:
All Seasons RV Appliance Parts and Service: 1150 Mitchell Jellison
Dr., Elkhart, IN 46516. (800) 344-0673 

	They have a lot of obsolete parts.



-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:35:37 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16

I wrote:

>I hat to say it- but I dought

	Boy- I've got to get my spell checker fixed ;)

-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:02:46 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Argosy Restoration

HOLY BUCKETS, Jamie! Hats off to you and your dad for an outstanding
restoration! Thanks for the detailed documentation of your process--now I
know what mine looks like under the skin!

Dan
75 Argosy 26
Des Moines

> From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:00:02 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] 
> 
> 1976 Argosy restoration
>> 



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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:08:43 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Dometic M16


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sissy Brown" <SissyB@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Does anyone know the source of such a part for the fridge?  > 

You might try www.rvmobile.com 



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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:55:40 -0000
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Polarity Question - 65 TW

Gerie & Robin,

Depending on how old your power chord is, you may just want to replace it.
My '60 had a chord that was properly wired, but internally got old & worn
enough that when it was damp it would read as though the polarity was
reversed.

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Leigh" <rgleigh@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 1:08 AM
Subject: [VAC] Polarity Question - 65 TW


>     While checking electrical connections for the A/C, I discovered that
our
> '65 TW, while plugged in at the house, has reverse polarity on the 120
VAC.
> This came as a surprise because I knew the outlet I was using had the
> correct polarity. The power cord could be the original- it has black,
white
> and green wires and a molded-on round plug with two flat pins angled at
120
> degrees for the load and a round ground pin. I'm also using a one-piece
> molded adapter to plug into the house outlet. The wires in the AS breaker
> box are connected as expected- black on the breakers, white on the neutral
> bus. Neither the plug nor the adapter offer any opportunities for
tampering.
>
>     Does anybody know what the situation is with old plugs? The best
> explanation I can come up with is that the adapter is reversed internally.
> When you look at the holes in the round side (where the trailer plug goes
> in) the connections follow the same pattern as the 120v house outlets-
with
> the ground at the bottom, the line is on the right. Although I can't see
> inside, the plug was evidently molded with the line on the left.
Obviously,
> I can wire my way around this but it would be nice to know how we got this
> way before we wander away from home.
>
>     Also, I just finished repairing the A/C (Bay Breeze original) with new
> fan motor, wire and Al electrical enclosure to replace the rusty steel
one.
> The manual shows a very sketchy outline of a fairing that goes around the
> rectangular A/C housing, plus there is a shiny area on the roof, evidence
of
> where the fairing used to be. All we have are two sections of louvers with
> broken bits of plastic that were attached to the sides of the AC housing
> with screws. Does anyone know what the AS fairing looked like? I'm
assuming
> the chances of finding one are near zero, but we need to put up something
to
> protect the condenser.
>
>     Thanks, everyone, for all the answers we got from VACList without
> asking.
>
>     Gerie & Robin Leigh
>     '65 TW Jacksonville Fl.
>     rgleigh@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>



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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:08:33 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Dometic M16

Sissy. The "stone" burner has not been available for about 30 years. Your 
only hope is to find a 'totaled" refrigerator, someplace.

Andy
inlandrv.com


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