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VACList-Digest Thursday, April 25, 2002 Issue 284
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Sealant vs. Plasticoat
2. Re: Non-conventional pullers
3. Re: Non-conventional pullers
4. Re: Non-conventional pullers
5. Re: Non-conventional pullers
6. Re: Cyclo polishing pads
7. Re: Non-conventional pullers
8. Re: Non-conventional pullers
9. Re: Non-conventional pullers
10. Re: Non-conventional pullers
11. Aluminum
12. Re: Recommended Jack for '67 Caravel
13. Re: Aluminum
14. Re: Aluminum
15. Re: Non-conventional pullers
16. Re: Black Goop Cleaner
17. Re: Aluminum
18. Re: Recommended Jack for '67 Caravel
19. Re: Aluminum
20. Re: Aluminum
21. Re: Black Goop Cleaner
22. Re: Aluminum 1978 v. 1962
23. Re: Cyclo polishing pads
24. Re: Cyclo polishing pads
25. Re: Black Goop Cleaner
26. Airstream sofa/bed wanted
27. AIRSTREAM.US and AIRSTREAMS.US
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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:19:48 -0400
From: Steve Hingtgen <steve@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sealant vs. Plasticoat
For some reason, I see that the digest version of the VAC list from a couple days ago shredded my original post. So here it is again...
Beth,
On Saturday I had a nice long phone conversation with Dick McIntyre. Dick invented the Airstream plasticoat back in the late 1950s. You should know that there are several places that will still apply it. Airstream's factory now also re-plasticoats, and
When you talk about "sealant" you are not talking about plasticoat. Sealants are either wax or polymer and they are used to coat trailers that are not plasticoated. They retard the re-oxidation after polishing. A high quality sealant will result in on
Walbernize is a type of wax that has been used on Airstream plasticoats since nearly the beginning of time. Dick recommends it be applied two times a year or more if you want. It was first used by Airstream when they were transporting trailers. They ap
If you are interested in more details, please contact me off-list.
Steve
http://www.vintagerv.com
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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:17:04 -0700
From: "Carol and Oliver Filippi" <ofilippi@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
It used to be that pulling power was directly related to torque [which is
engine torque and gearing - transmission and rear axle ratio) Engine torque
is primarily a function of engine displacement (volume of the cylinders).
Thus, given the proper gearing, the size (displacement) of the engine was
THE critical factor for overall performance.
Until now! Some modern gasoline engines use more complex designs to
maximize performance. The most notable to this discussion is variable valve
timing - which is part of the Toyota's recent engine design available in its
pickup. This technology allows the smaller engine to reach a high torque
output at relatively low RPM and then maintain it throughout its RPM range.
Thus Toyota can get away with an engine quite a bit smaller than what was
once considered minimum size.
Oliver Filippi
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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:18:26 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
Dear Dr. G.,
You certainly are a wiz. Based on the fact that I will be pulling with
the 89 Toyota, the manual says "Do not use stabilizing hitches". The
existing rear bumper is designed for a ball mount, is heavy duty and well
mounted to the truck frame.
When I do move, all heavy objects currently in the Safari will be stowed in
the truck bed. That should help prevent the trailer pushing the light truck
around. Brake controller set to slightly favor the trailer brakes, which
were replaced last year. I would love to have bigger/taller tires but it
sounds like that would be counterproductive to getting the rig off the line
without burning the clutch. So I'm going to stay with the Mickey Mouse
tires that came with the truck, which BTW, is a 2 wheel drive vehicle.
The funny thing is, that if someone had told me six months ago that I was
going to use a 4 banger as a puller, I would have told them there was no
chance. Time will tell as we live and learn.
Bob Kiger
Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:26:27 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
Dear Oliver,
Would this apply to an 89 22R-E. This electronically fuel injected was
revolutionary according to a lot of people around the dealership, but nobody
ever explained why.
Thanx,
Bob
> Until now! Some modern gasoline engines use more complex designs to
> maximize performance. The most notable to this discussion is variable
valve
> timing - which is part of the Toyota's recent engine design available in
its
> pickup. This technology allows the smaller engine to reach a high torque
> output at relatively low RPM and then maintain it throughout its RPM
range.
>
> Thus Toyota can get away with an engine quite a bit smaller than what was
> once considered minimum size.
>
> Oliver Filippi
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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:58:12 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
What's heavy duty to a bumper and mount is paper compared to a good
Reese frame mounted hitch. And the load equalizing hitch makes the truck
handle a lot better with the trailer attached. It may be that the back
end of the Toyota frame isn't strong enough to accept the forces of the
load equalizing hitch. Personally, I like the headlights to not be in
the clouds and the front wheels to be on the ground, not tippy toeing
along touching occasionally.
Moving heavy objects from the trailer to the truck doesn't change the
gross combination weight, and depending on where they were in the
trailer (fore or aft of the axle(s) they may not help the tongue weight
or the truck tail dragging. The only brake controllers that favor the
trailer brakes are those tapping the hydraulics or sampling the brake
pedal pressure. All the others depend on time to build up or on a
pendulum detecting the truck slowing. Skillful manual application of the
trailer brakes can improve the situation significantly.
Taller tires are the worst possible move, they hurt thrust and braking.
If anything think low profile tires. Changing the drive tires outside
diameter from 28 to 21 inches has the same effect as my changing rear
axle gears from 3.08 to 4.10. The low profile tires also improve
braking, but unless the tire is wider it may not improve traction and
the low profile tires tend to have a lower load carrying capability.
I think your are trying to use a pack mule for a drayage horse.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:34:07 -0600
From: gshippen <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Cyclo polishing pads
Jerry, can you tell me does the Cyclo polisher rotate in a circular polishing
motion? If so do you get a swirl patern on the finished surface? Gerald
Jerry Jarrell wrote:
> Anyone need some Cyclo polishing pads. I have 12 green -- 11 yellow -- 6 white.
> Take all for $40. Don't need them anymore.
> Jerry
> 57 Overlander
> WBCCI & VAC
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:44:51 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
Dear Dr. G.,
You know I have great respect for you in all matters related to
electricity and animal husbandry. I greatly appreciate your thoughts about
my little truck which have inspired me to make it work:)
Your friend,
Bob
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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:04:40 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Karl F. Larsen" <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
For what it's worth I pull my 23 foot 76 Airstream with a 88 Jeep pickup
with the Ford 6 cylinder 4 liter fuel injected engine. I have a class 3
hitch and do use a load leveler and a anti-sway bar.
This rig is real slow uphill but does fine level and down.
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, My Airstream wrote:
> Dear Dr. G.,
> You know I have great respect for you in all matters related to
> electricity and animal husbandry. I greatly appreciate your thoughts about
> my little truck which have inspired me to make it work:)
> Your friend,
> Bob
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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:48:02 -0500
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <kallen@xxxxxxxxxx.k12.il.us>
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> What's heavy duty to a bumper and mount is paper compared to a good
> Reese frame mounted hitch. And the load equalizing hitch makes the truck
> handle a lot better with the trailer attached. It may be that the back
> end of the Toyota frame isn't strong enough to accept the forces of the
> load equalizing hitch. >
> Gerald J.
> --
> Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson. Reproduction by
> permission only.
My experience was with a bit older Toyota - - a 1979 model in 1980. While
it was rated to tow 3,000 pounds, my local Reese Dealer refused to fabricate
a htich for it. It seems that the frame behind the rear axle wasn't stout
enough to handle a weight distributing platform hitch. The dealer was quite
conservative, and I decided to follow his recommendation rather than chance
having another shop whom he indicated would do the work regardless. There
were many changes to Toyotas during the 1980s, so it may be that today's
models have had that particular deficiency corrected. The vehicle certainly
felt like it had the power to handle the trailer.
Kevin Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:49:43 EDT
From: JPPOLLY@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
All your theorizing is just fine Gerald, but I pulled my GT across country
and over the Rockies with a 1985 Toyota 4 cylinder pickup with just the heavy
duty bumper hitch that I got from Toyota - no anti sway bars either. Worked
just fine, thank you very much! A bit slow on the passes but you can't have
everything. BTW, I still have the truck, original engine and tranny, 225,000
miles on it , going strong. Every one says this should not work, but it did.
Even had some bad weather along the way and still chugged right along.
Toyota pickups are pretty good vehicles, probably better than comparable US
made trucks.
Just Plain Polly
1964 Globe Trotter
Colorado
WBCCI 7113
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:17:27 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <dkparins@ez-net.com>
Subject: Aluminum
I'm still looking for a source for aluminum to match the belly of my 1962.
I tried the service center in Jackson Center but they indicated they don't
have it. Andy from Inland RV stated earlier that this is .024 inch
aluminum. I have ordered a catalog from Aircraft Spruce but I did not see
any .024 inch aluminum on their web site. Garnett suggested 5052 aluminum
would be a good choice but I don't see that in .024 inch thickness .
Any help would be appreciated.
Dick
1962 Bambi
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:35:26 -0700
From: Dave Huffman <huff@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Recommended Jack for '67 Caravel
The only jack I have around which could serve for our '67 Caravel is an old Scissors Jack, as old as the Caravel. Whereas it seemed a bit exotic compared to the bumber jacks of that day, it does not give confidence under the Caravel.
What do you all recommend these days?
Huff... planning to head off to Missoula, MT and Glacier Park next month.
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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:55:04 -0400
From: "Thomas LaVergne" <tlavergne@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Aluminum
That really surprises me since they just replaced part of my belly pan less
then 2 weeks ago on my 1978 A/S...is the belly pan of a '62 that much
different? Do you remember who you talked to?
Thomas
1978 Ambassador
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick and Kris Parins
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: [VAC] Aluminum
I'm still looking for a source for aluminum to match the belly of my 1962.
I tried the service center in Jackson Center but they indicated they don't
have it.
Dick
1962 Bambi
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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:57:17 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Aluminum
Dick. It doesn't really matter what you use. Get whatever you can at whatever
thickness. Just make sure that it's aluminum. Andy
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Message Number: 15
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:30:29 -0700
From: Patrick Ewing <pre52@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Non-conventional pullers
Over the years I've towed an S.O.B. (35 foot Traveleze) with a 1966 Chev pickup
that had a 250 six & a four speed granny. I even went over mountain passes with
this unit. I was living in this trailer and wasn't actually "traveling" with it.
The hills did require patience.
In 1968 I had a 1966 Toyota Stout pickup. How many of you remember this model? It
had the four cyl. & four speed column shift with granny first. At 55 mph. you'd
be maxed out speed wise. However it had tremendous pulling power. With the 10
gallon fuel tank and a cab over camper I had to carry extra gas along in cans as
it was getting only about 12 mpg's. Especially out in the outback in the
southwestern deserts where gas stops were far apart.
I had a 1967 Chev. 1 ton with a four speed granny. It would move most anything
one wanted to. Would max out at about 60 mph. on the freeway though.
I've towed my Bambi years ago with two different Volvos. One four cyl. gas &
automatic, ........... and one six cyl. turbo diesel & auto. Both were great
cars, ............... but were marginal tow rigs, ....... even though I was well
within the manufacturers recommendations weight wise.
At this time my "puller" is a Suburban and my main traveling trailer is my little
Bambi. At times I tow the 31 foot Sovereign International.
Probably under most "normal" circumstances, ................. and the unusual
does seem to happen at times, ............... towing with a light duty rig will
be adequate. However over the years things have changed. .......... Especially
these days with more cars & the impatience of today's drivers that are in a hurry
and will take all sorts of chances. Even the newer school busses & large trucks
with their modern engines can mostly keep their speed up on the hills,
........... except for the long & steep pulls.
With road rage, shootings, and all the lousy drivers that are out there one needs
to be careful. Recently on the interstate I was pulling the Bambi behind the
Suburban in the right lane at about 60-65 mph. Suddenly from two lanes over to
the left some bleep, bleep cut to the right for an off ramp. Everyone to the
right & behind him had to hit the binders HARD, including me towing the
Airstream. This was totally unexpected & sudden. I went from freeway speed to
zero in no time flat in order to keep from hitting the car in front of me. And I
keep a decent following distance! All the while I was watching the rear view
mirror out the corner of my eye to see how the fellow behind me was doing. At
least they kept away from the Bambi. I always try to leave extra stopping
distance when towing.
Well, ................ in a sudden panic stop from high speed I stopped straight
and quick. Totally under control. This I would NOT have wanted to have to do with
a marginal tow vehicle.
If towing with a new rig one needs to keep the manufacturer's warranty activated
by not over towing with it.
Legally one needs not to "over tow" as you could be up the creek if ever involved
in an accident. Just like having bald tires, ............... you could be
considered "at fault" even if you didn't cause the accident.
I know that towing the Bambi with the Suburban may seem an over kill,
................ however I have several other trailers that I tow that are
larger. All I can say is that after years of marginal tow rigs I feel much more
secure having "extra" capacity available for those "unusual" moments that do tend
to occassionally happen.
Because of deteriorating back problems, and for "me" the seating in the GM mini
vans seems to be the best for support, just yesterday I was at a dealer looking
at Safari/Astro mini vans. They are rated for up to 5,500 lbs. tow capacity. I'm
seriously thinking of getting one in the future to tow the Bambi with. I know of
at least one member of this list from Arizona that has this combo. At last week's
rally I was told of several Airstreamers that use these mini vans to tow 34 foot
wide bodys with. .............. Now that's a dangerous game to play. If they were
ever in an emergency situation they might be in trouble. They could end up in
legal troubles as well since they are well over the ratings for their tow rigs.
WOW !! ................ I guess I'd better stop now. (:
Pat
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Message Number: 16
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:00:54 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Black Goop Cleaner
I think I remember someone in the past saying to use cornstarch on a rag.
That it took off the black very easily.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl F. Larsen" <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: [VAC] Black Goop Cleaner
>
> When your done with a polish on a section, if your good at it most
> of the black stuff stays with the polisher bonnet. But there will be a
> little still there and I found at Wal Mart Klean Strip Paint Thinner
> selling for $1.89 per gallon! Put a little of this on a rag and the black
> goop comes right off.
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
>
> - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.net (505) 524-3303 -
> http://www.zianet.com/k5di/
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Message Number: 17
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:36:51 -0500
From: "Jeff Griffin" <mrfurious007@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Aluminum
On the topic of sheet aluminum....
Here's some advice. I priced 2024T3 aluminum sheet from RV dealers and
online Aircraft parts suppliers. The online Aircraft parts suppliers has
reasonable prices BUT the shipping charges were as much as the material!
So I decided to open the Yellow Pages and contact a metal supplier in my
area (Austin, TX). Well, the local supplier had the 2024 alclad in stock at
HALF the price of the online supplier. I'm picking it up on Friday.
It pays to shop around.
Jeff
>From: Dick and Kris Parins <dkparins@ez-net.com>
>Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>Subject: [VAC] Aluminum
>Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:17:27 -0500
>
>I'm still looking for a source for aluminum to match the belly of my 1962.
>I tried the service center in Jackson Center but they indicated they don't
>have it. Andy from Inland RV stated earlier that this is .024 inch
>aluminum. I have ordered a catalog from Aircraft Spruce but I did not see
>any .024 inch aluminum on their web site. Garnett suggested 5052 aluminum
>would be a good choice but I don't see that in .024 inch thickness .
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Dick
>1962 Bambi
>
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Message Number: 18
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:38:03 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Recommended Jack for '67 Caravel
Go with a 2 or 4 ton hydraulic jack. If the compact straight style,
carry a piece of 2x6 maybe 2' long to provide it a stable base on dirt
and carry a 4" length of 2x4 for a top pad. The small pseudo garage jack
should work well too and be handier to use. Still needs the wood plank
and top cushion.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 19
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:38:06 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Aluminum
Maybe a heavy aluminum roll flashing from the home center? Home Depot's
printed catalog doesn't show thickness, but they show an economy and a
contractor grade and widths from 5 to 20 inches.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 20
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:37:09 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Aluminum
Dick, perhaps you are trying for an exact restoration of your trailer, but
in all reality, no one except you would know if you used slightly thicker or
thinner aluminum for the belly pan.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick and Kris Parins" <dkparins@ez-net.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: [VAC] Aluminum
> I'm still looking for a source for aluminum to match the belly of my 1962.
> I tried the service center in Jackson Center but they indicated they don't
> have it. Andy from Inland RV stated earlier that this is .024 inch
> aluminum. I have ordered a catalog from Aircraft Spruce but I did not see
> any .024 inch aluminum on their web site. Garnett suggested 5052 aluminum
> would be a good choice but I don't see that in .024 inch thickness .
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Dick
> 1962 Bambi
>
>
>
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Message Number: 21
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:42:53 -0700
From: "Steve Boyd" <Steve.Boyd@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: Black Goop Cleaner
Hi All,
Karl said:
> I found at Wal Mart Klean Strip Paint Thinner
> selling for $1.89 per gallon! Put a little of this on a rag and the black
> goop comes right off.
FWIW, I've found that PineSol cleaner works well for removing leftover
residue from the Rolite polishes. I started with a premixed version in
spray bottle (was readily available under kitchen sink), then mixed my
own blend from the concentrated form as the original bottle ran low.
Now using a combo of PineSol in a bucket with water and soft cloth for
general wash, followed by spray bottle and clean(er) cloth for final
cleanup. The PineSol really seems to cut the black residue, and the
stronger the mix, the better.
Steve
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Message Number: 22
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:10:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Aluminum 1978 v. 1962
very different aluminum.
Toby
--- Thomas LaVergne <tlavergne@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> That really surprises me since they just replaced
> part of my belly pan less
> then 2 weeks ago on my 1978 A/S...is the belly pan
> of a '62 that much
> different? Do you remember who you talked to?
> Thomas
> 1978 Ambassador
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dick and Kris Parins
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:17 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Aluminum
>
>
> I'm still looking for a source for aluminum to
> match the belly of my 1962.
> I tried the service center in Jackson Center but
> they indicated they don't
> have it.
> Dick
> 1962 Bambi
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 23
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:17:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Cyclo polishing pads
cyclo operates in two motions. the two heads orbit
while the polish is thick, and as the polish starts to
thin out, the heads begin to spin. The benefit of a
cyclo as compared to other polishers is that it does
these two things, and it has 2 heads to balance each
other out. it's easier to work with. to a trained
eye, any conventional polisher that spins
perpendicular to the surface will cause "swirls." the
goal is to make those swirls next to impossible to
notice.
drum buffers and die grinders operating parallel to
the surface will not make the same kind of marks, but
will still make marks that move the direction of the
wheel. They will also create lapping (?) marks where
you overlap from one stroke to the other.
The swirl marks are the easiest part to get rid of,
the "coloring" of the aluminum is different between
the two above mentioned methods.
I use a cyclo, and I'm (as a perfectionist) 96% happy
with it.
Toby
--- gshippen <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> Jerry, can you tell me does the Cyclo polisher
> rotate in a circular polishing
> motion? If so do you get a swirl patern on the
> finished surface? Gerald
>
> Jerry Jarrell wrote:
>
> > Anyone need some Cyclo polishing pads. I have 12
> green -- 11 yellow -- 6 white.
> > Take all for $40. Don't need them anymore.
> > Jerry
> > 57 Overlander
> > WBCCI & VAC
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Message Number: 24
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:21:46 -0400
From: Jerry Jarrell <jdjarrell@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Cyclo polishing pads
Hey Gerald.
Believe it or not I haven't used it yet. I just did some research and decided to
go with the cotton sweater material that you can through away and not worry about
washing all that "black stuff" out of the everything and the pads can get rather
pricey if you use many. I have some Nuvite and a Wal Mart auto polisher that takes
the heavy corrosion off and then plan to use the Cyclo to bring out the shine. I'm
really in the testing stage trying to find the best method for my trailer.
The pads have been asked for gang. Thanks for the inquiries. I will be off the
list for the weekend.
Jerry
gshippen wrote:
> Jerry, can you tell me does the Cyclo polisher rotate in a circular polishing
> motion? If so do you get a swirl patern on the finished surface? Gerald
>
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Message Number: 25
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:03:26 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Karl F. Larsen" <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Black Goop Cleaner
Hi Steve, I finished my door today and it took 2 1/2 hours plus 1/2 hour
for clean up. I'm bushed! I found that cutting the Paint Thinner with 2/3
water 1/3 Paint Thinner still works very well and you can make a a big
pail of the stuff and keep your rags pretty clean too. It cuts the Goop on
contact and it all comes off onto the rag. Then clean the rag in the pail
again and go on.
For some reason the aluminum used on the bottom 1/2 of my door
doesn't polish to as good a mirror finish as the upper half. Must be
another type of aluminum. This is a 1976 23 foot job that was made in New
Jersey.
Time for lunch and I'm hungary!
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Steve Boyd wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
> Karl said:
> > I found at Wal Mart Klean Strip Paint Thinner
> > selling for $1.89 per gallon! Put a little of this on a rag and the black
> > goop comes right off.
>
> FWIW, I've found that PineSol cleaner works well for removing leftover
> residue from the Rolite polishes. I started with a premixed version in
> spray bottle (was readily available under kitchen sink), then mixed my
> own blend from the concentrated form as the original bottle ran low.
> Now using a combo of PineSol in a bucket with water and soft cloth for
> general wash, followed by spray bottle and clean(er) cloth for final
> cleanup. The PineSol really seems to cut the black residue, and the
> stronger the mix, the better.
>
> Steve
>
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Yours Truly,
- Karl F. Larsen, k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.net (505) 524-3303 -
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Message Number: 26
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:13:16 EDT
From: Imp67cc64@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Airstream sofa/bed wanted
I am in the process of building an enclosed trailer to haul my collector cars
and would like to install an rv type convertible sofa that would open to a
double bed. I plan to reupholster it, so condition of structure is all that
matters. I am in Atlanta, so SE US is best, but will pay to ship if
necessary.
Thanks,
John -- 77 Excella 500
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Message Number: 27
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:54:29 +0100
From: Ewan McDonell <ewan@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: AIRSTREAM.US and AIRSTREAMS.US
Hi Everybody - I hope I don't get shot for posting this...
As some of the folk here will know, I'm a bit of a collector
of internet domain names, and I have got in my possession
at the moment the names AIRSTREAM.US and AIRSTREAMS.US.
I've just put them up for auction on eBay, so if anybody is
interested in them, you can view the auctions by typing
http://www.airstream.us/ into your browser for the airstream.us
domain, and http://www.airstreams.us/ for the airstreams.us
auction. There's no reserve on them, but the auctions are
only running for three days.
If anybody wants to ask me any questions (or flame me) please
contact me off-list by email at ewan@xxxxxxxxxx.com.
Best Regards to all,
Ewan McDonell
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