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[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V3 #799 - tire scallops



Scott - in thinking about your tire scalloping situation - here's something to ponder:

When your (single axle) trailer was new - it was available in both single axle 
and twin axle formats.

As you've mentioned - 26' for a single axle is a lot of length for a travel trailer 
to begin with.  Add to that how the factory tuned it and how the owner loads it and 
maintains it and tows it and you've got even more to take into consideration.

In looking at RJ's photos from '55 thru '60 - it looks to me that depending on what 
year the Overlander was offered (single axle version) there may have been year to year 
differences in the actual location of the axle when looking at the frame/shell.  Some 
years appear to have the single axle placed in the very center of the shell (fore and 
aft) and some years appear to have the axle mounted rear-of-center when looking at the 
shell of the trailer from the side.

If so - these changes very likely may have had to do with (among others) the year-to-year 
weight changes in kitchen/bath locations etc.  

Depending on how these single axle models have been remodeled and updated over the years 
- (weight shifted) - this could have serious balance implications on the original factory 
design for the frame/shell/axle.

I'm pretty sure your family one-owner Overlander is probably still in it's original layout 
etc - but if you've made any weight distribution changes (permanent trailer components) - 
you might consider this as one reason for "odd" tire scalloping.  I say "odd" - if after all 
the new service work you're doing is completed and all the "usual suspect" issues have been 
confirmed as being "not suspect".

The single most interesting class I took years ago in Auto Mechanics school (Spokane Community 
College) was the "drivetrain and driveline" vibration class.

The single most important thing I learned is that just because there is a vibration/wear issue 
present in a vehicle - you never should assume the vibration/wear issue is being caused by 
something obvious.

Sometimes the source(s) of vibration/wear issues end up being no where near the point of actual 
wear.  

The place that shows wear is often a weak link in a design - and not the actual part that is 
vibrating or otherwise overworking itself.  

A weak link might be an unintended structural (drooping frame and shell etc) feature - or in the 
case of a tire (I would suggest tires are an intended wear feature) (within reason) - it wears out 
faster than most other components on a trailer.  Being a natural indicator of reasonable wear to 
begin with - tires can also be wear-and-tear absorber(s) above and beyond the reasonable wear and 
tear they absorb while revolving and contacting pavement.

I now find it fascinating to look underneath a vehicle and note where vibration dampening weights 
and absorption devices have been mounted.   Often a manufacturer will counteract the 
vibration/imbalance rather than design it out!  In otherwords - they install counterweights and/or 
dampening devices to deal with issues.

Often times you'll see odd add-on devices to the tailhousing of a transmission.  One of the better 
known vibration dampeners was the four-door Lincoln Continental convertible from the early 1960's.  
If you look under the four fender corners of one of these convertibles - you'll find very basic and 
very large counterweights mounted on spring arms.  On the one hand the design of the Lincoln was new 
and dramatic for the time (low to the ground) and on the other hand that new design featured "issues" 
that subsequently showed up...that had to be dealt with one way or another...and in the case of the 
inherently more sensitive chassis design of a convertible model...that meant gym weights under the 
fenders!

It might be worth comparing the axle location on your 1960 Overlander with other single axle 
Overlander owners and then comparing tire wear stories.

Also - you might want to think about your tire wear issue in terms of what was normal for tire wear 
when the trailer was new (not now).  In otherwords - there weren't any radial trailer tires available 
- and owners may have been changing their bias-ply tires more often.  If not for good measure (like 
today) - then maybe just because they were wearing out faster.  

Maybe your trailer axle design is simply meant for "more often tire replacement"....due to the individual 
reality of how your specific trailer bounces, wiggles, shimmies etc...etc...etc. regardless of how many 
ways one balances everything out.  Modern tires are no doubt generally better than what was available 
in 1960 but...they may not be better for your specific trailer.  The modern tires are possibly intended 
to match up with modern chassis designs - while your old chassis may simply be overworking them...no 
matter how well they are made.

Good luck and travel safe.  RL