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VAL Digest Wednesday, December 15 2004 Volume 02 : Number 097
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Topics in Today's Digest:
[VAL] Re: LP retailers
Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Re: [VAL] Trying to build access doors
Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
[VAL] part-fill propane tanks
[VAL] re: LP valve question
Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
[VAL] re: LP valve question
Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Re: [VAL] re: LP valve question
Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Re: [VAL] Trying to build access doors
Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:12:16 EST
From: AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
In a message dated 12/13/2004 11:01:18 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
So my question is- will LP retailers fill a partially filled tank, and
charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones I've run in to
charge by the tank size
There was a time that I would fall for that scam!
Think about it......would you pay for a full tank of unleaded gas when you
only needed a 1/2 a tank?
It's probably illegal to charge by tank size and not by the gallon!
ALOT of vehicles now run on LP~~NO WAY could you be charged by the tank
size!!
All fuels are regulated in some way by the weights and measures dept!
Someone will correct me I'm sure if I am mistaken!
AlanT
Still in Phx AZ
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:36:18 -0800
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Hi Daisy,
I own a 57 Sovereign of the Road (undergoing a floor replacement and
complete restoration) which is also 30' long. I love the old long trailers
as they weigh considerably less than the newer ones. According to the specs
it's only 3900 lbs dry. The 50's trailers were only 7' wide (except for the
50 "Limited" which is 7' 6") and lower than the later models so it punches a
smaller hole through the air while towing. The 13 panel end caps look great
too. The bathrooms in these models were huge as well. According to VW, you
could even tow it with a Eurovan.
Colin
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Daisy Welch" <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
> Back, Back, I saw it first ! Long is good.
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:23:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
- --- AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> In a message dated 12/13/2004 11:01:18 P.M. US
> Mountain Standard Tim,
> valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
>
> So my question is- will LP retailers fill a
> partially filled tank, and
> charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones
> I've run in to
> charge by the tank size
>
>
> There was a time that I would fall for that scam!
> Think about it......would you pay for a full tank of
> unleaded gas when you
> only needed a 1/2 a tank?
> It's probably illegal to charge by tank size and not
> by the gallon!
> ALOT of vehicles now run on LP~~NO WAY could you be
> charged by the tank
> size!!
> All fuels are regulated in some way by the weights
> and measures dept!
> Someone will correct me I'm sure if I am mistaken!
>
> AlanT
> Still in Phx AZ
Alan,
Some places will charge by tank size, because the
majority of their business is propane tank exchange.
You can go to places around here and simply exchange
an empty 30lb propane tank for a full one. They keep
and refill the empty tank.
This goes for forklift tanks, bbq tanks, rv tanks etc.
I frequent a place that will refill my own tanks for
the price of the propane that goes into it.
There's one 3 doors down from my office in Orange, CA.
Their propane is priced very low compared to Uhaul,
and they do not assess a service fee either.
I am sure there are places like this in all
metropolitan areas. These guys also deal in welding
gasses, and welding supplies.
Uwe Salwender
Orange CA
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:14:46 -0500
From: balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Alan,
This is one of the reasons why we went to the OPD. Most
resellers of propane do not understand propane. I went
to a reseller to get the tanks in my hot air balloon filled.
He told me only "he" could fill them. After looking at the
clothes he was wearing, polyester pants/jacket I told him
he was not getting near my tanks(not good to wear polyester
around propane, spark, boom. Since I burn liquid not vapor,
the tank must be filled to the spit valve to insure a full
tank. Find another reseller that knows what there doing, you'll
be better off on the long run.
Paul Waddell
Quoting Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>:
> --- AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 12/13/2004 11:01:18 P.M. US
> > Mountain Standard Tim,
> > valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
> >
> > So my question is- will LP retailers fill a
> > partially filled tank, and
> > charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones
> > I've run in to
> > charge by the tank size
> >
> >
> > There was a time that I would fall for that scam!
> > Think about it......would you pay for a full tank of
> > unleaded gas when you
> > only needed a 1/2 a tank?
> > It's probably illegal to charge by tank size and not
> > by the gallon!
> > ALOT of vehicles now run on LP~~NO WAY could you be
> > charged by the tank
> > size!!
> > All fuels are regulated in some way by the weights
> > and measures dept!
> > Someone will correct me I'm sure if I am mistaken!
> >
> > AlanT
> > Still in Phx AZ
>
> Alan,
>
> Some places will charge by tank size, because the
> majority of their business is propane tank exchange.
> You can go to places around here and simply exchange
> an empty 30lb propane tank for a full one. They keep
> and refill the empty tank.
> This goes for forklift tanks, bbq tanks, rv tanks etc.
> I frequent a place that will refill my own tanks for
> the price of the propane that goes into it.
> There's one 3 doors down from my office in Orange, CA.
> Their propane is priced very low compared to Uhaul,
> and they do not assess a service fee either.
> I am sure there are places like this in all
> metropolitan areas. These guys also deal in welding
> gasses, and welding supplies.
> Uwe Salwender
> Orange CA
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:03:36 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Trying to build access doors
Pete
Send me a photo if you can with some measurements of the extrusion your
looking for. I may have some or I could make it if it's not to large. Are you
looking for the T angle or U channel?
Bobby
----- Original Message -----
Wrom: KVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYUCDDJBLVLMHAAL
I check
some web sites for the aluminum but haven't found anyone who would do a
small job. I'm not able to paste a drawing of the extrusion in the email,
but it looks something like this (not to scale), with the right edge bent
about 30 degrees up. _
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:13:16 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Uwe, Alan and all,
Actually there's a plain old Union 76 gas station here in Santa Monica
that just charges for the fuel dispensed without a
walk-to-the-pump-and-turn-it-on fee. For those interested, it's on the
corner of 20th. & Pico Blvd.
I'll bet he gets a lot more local business as compared to the majority
in the area who charge a minimum (usually something like $5.00). This used
to really toast my socks when I'd go to another place and be charged that
fee to fill the 1 gallon tank I use on our sailboat. Now of course I go to
this guy for those two tanks and the two 30 pound steel tanks on the
Caravel.
Glyn Judson
1969 Caravel #508
Santa Monica CA
> From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:23:37 -0800 (PST)
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
>
> --- AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 12/13/2004 11:01:18 P.M. US
>> Mountain Standard Tim,
>> valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
>>
>> So my question is- will LP retailers fill a
>> partially filled tank, and
>> charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones
>> I've run in to
>> charge by the tank size
>>
>>
>> There was a time that I would fall for that scam!
>> Think about it......would you pay for a full tank of
>> unleaded gas when you
>> only needed a 1/2 a tank?
>> It's probably illegal to charge by tank size and not
>> by the gallon!
>> ALOT of vehicles now run on LP~~NO WAY could you be
>> charged by the tank
>> size!!
>> All fuels are regulated in some way by the weights
>> and measures dept!
>> Someone will correct me I'm sure if I am mistaken!
>>
>> AlanT
>> Still in Phx AZ
>
> Alan,
>
> Some places will charge by tank size, because the
> majority of their business is propane tank exchange.
> You can go to places around here and simply exchange
> an empty 30lb propane tank for a full one. They keep
> and refill the empty tank.
> This goes for forklift tanks, bbq tanks, rv tanks etc.
> I frequent a place that will refill my own tanks for
> the price of the propane that goes into it.
> There's one 3 doors down from my office in Orange, CA.
> Their propane is priced very low compared to Uhaul,
> and they do not assess a service fee either.
> I am sure there are places like this in all
> metropolitan areas. These guys also deal in welding
> gasses, and welding supplies.
> Uwe Salwender
> Orange CA
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:50:52 -0800
From: "MK / JS" <sn2244@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] part-fill propane tanks
RE: partial fill of propane tanks
For your trip planning notes ...
If any of you are ever travelling north over the border in to western
Canada - Mohawk gas stations are very good about partial fills.
Watch out for the big box retailer called Canadian Tire (even tho they often
have handy pull-thru parking lots and "free" sewage dump stations) -- my
experience is that they charge for the full tank regardless of how much fuel
they put in your propane tank.
Marg
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:42:42 -0500
From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] re: LP valve question
Thanks for the info Dr.J, Jim, and Pete. The vote seems unanimous: look
to replace the regulator. I'm looking at the "propane auto changeover
two-stage regulator on Camping World's site:
<http://www.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm?
deptID=3&skunum=24030&src=FPC#reviews>
The title appears to indicate it's auto changeover, but the description
says "Change from the empty LP cylinder to the full one at the flip of
a lever", seemingly indicating it's a manual operation. Any help here?
Thanks again,
Chris K.
<www.koehnjourney.blogspot.com>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:35:15 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Hi Folks,
Ok, Bill sent me the pictures and I uploaded them onto my site.
You can view them at http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/albums.php.
Several thing to know about these albums.
1. This album of Bill's trailer has 11 pictures. Nine on page one and two
on page two. Go to the second page to see them all. Use the navigation
arrows.
2. Clicking on a pictues will get you a bigger picture. Clicking on the
bigger picture will get you a HUGE picture if you really want to see the
details.
3. There are three albums on the first page of the gallery. However, there
are a total of twelve albums on four pages in the photo gallery. Click on
the navigation arrows to go to the remaining pages after page one. Not all
visitors are getting to see all of the albums, because they never get past
the first page.
If you have any questions about the albums, just ask.
- -Tom
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
> Hi Doc,
>
> Do you have any pictures?
>
> You can't send them through to the list, as the e-mail program strips out
> all attachments. However, if you have any, you can send them to me, at
> tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> and I will upload them to the site for all to see.
>
> -Tom
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:43:48 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] re: LP valve question
Local LP gas suppliers won't deliver gas to a house or farm with an old
regulator any more. New regulators are expected to be more safe than old
regulators where the diaphragm is likely to split with old age and let gas out
all over and uncontrolled.
The advertisements in RV catalogs certainly are confusing about the
automatic switch over. Some show a rotary handle like the model 254 but
describe a sliding plate, a previous model. I have that previous model and
I think that if I turn off the valve on the active cylinder while gas is being
consumed that it will switch over on its own, but I've not used enough gas
(just occasional warming a can of peas on the stove) to get a cylinder low
in gas.
I found one in a more recent catalog, the Marshall model 254 that says,
"Get continuous gas supply by automatically changing to a reserve cylinder
when the service cylinder is empty." Note that they demand a plastic
cover when this regulator is used outdoors.
Then with the 254 this catalog clearly says that the Marshall RCI-24 can
work with the model 254 to give a remote indication of the automatic
switch over, so you don't have to go outside to check. It does nearly
double the cost of the installation.
After changing the regulator and hoses, its necessary to be sure that there
are no leaks. A bit of dish washing soap in a bit of water brushed liberally
on all connections (including the crimps made in a factors) while the system
is pressurized is the needed check. Growing bubbles are not acceptable
at all.
Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:15:20 -0800
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Hi Folks:
There is a great brochure of the '54 model year at the VAC website. It's
worth the download time for sure.
http://airstream.net/members/documents/catalogs/1954%20Catalog.pdf
The Liner is on pages 16 and 17. Apparently cost $4975 at the time.
Have fun,
GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:46:33 -0700
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] re: LP valve question
Chris K.,
Automatic changeover regulators have been around for 30+ years.
Airstream starting using a regulator made by Fisher which would have
been original on a 1979 coach. The Fisher is/was easily twice the size
of the current Marshalls. Until 3-4 years ago Airstream continued to use
the Fisher despite it's near double cost of a Marshall.
The Fisher came in two configurations. The first was with both sections
mounted vertically. The second had the top, or changeover section turned
90 degrees. The second one came along with the tank cover to make it
easier to check and operate.
The Fisher used a knob with an arrow cast in it for the tank selector.
Which ever tank the arrow pointed at was the main feed tank. When that
tank emptied out the colored collar under the plastic cap would change
to red. Turning the knob to the other tank would change the color back
to green or silver and allow the now empty tank to be closed at the
valve and removed to be refilled. Once filled one had only to remounted
it, connect the fitting and turn the tank valve back on. It is required
that both tank valves be fully open for a changeover regulator to work
properly.
Marshall regulators have used several different tank selectors over the
years. Most recently they have used a slider and a flip lever. Whomever
makes it the theory of a changeover regulator is the same.
With a changeover valve in use it is nearly impossible to run out and
makes gauges an unnecessary redundancy. Gauges are unreliable,
inaccurate and if you have to work on them a royal pain. During the
summer one 7.5 gal tank can last the whole season. Living in it in cold
weather requires more frequent checking but once you get a feel for how
long a tank lasts its easy.
These days leak testing with dish detergent is no longer recommended.
Many of the detergents on the market have ammonia in them. Ammonia is
considered hard on the brass fittings. It will accelerate corrosion on
brass.
Charlie
Chris Koehn wrote:
>Thanks for the info Dr.J, Jim, and Pete. The vote seems unanimous: look
>to replace the regulator. I'm looking at the "propane auto changeover
>two-stage regulator on Camping World's site:
>
>
><http://www.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm?
>deptID=3&skunum=24030&src=FPC#reviews>
>
>The title appears to indicate it's auto changeover, but the description
>says "Change from the empty LP cylinder to the full one at the flip of
>a lever", seemingly indicating it's a manual operation. Any help here?
>Thanks again,
>
>Chris K.
><www.koehnjourney.blogspot.com>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:37:38 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Alan,
What I have seen in the past is a per gallon charge with a minimum,
which usually equals a BBQ tank size. I check before filling and try
and find a per gallon with no minimum retailer, or better yet find a
propane distributor, most open Mon-Fri but some open on Sat. They have
knowledgeable people and the prices are usually good.
The minimum price may have to do with the time it takes an employee to
fill the tank, no self service. I doubt that there is a regulation
regarding only charging by the unit. Gas stations could do the same but
unless everyone did they would not get much business. And there is self
service, except for Oregon and I think New Jersey,.
Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA
http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari
AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>In a message dated 12/13/2004 11:01:18 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
>valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
>
>So my question is- will LP retailers fill a partially filled tank, and
>charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones I've run in to
>charge by the tank size
>
>
>There was a time that I would fall for that scam!
>Think about it......would you pay for a full tank of unleaded gas when you
>only needed a 1/2 a tank?
>It's probably illegal to charge by tank size and not by the gallon!
>ALOT of vehicles now run on LP~~NO WAY could you be charged by the tank
>size!!
>All fuels are regulated in some way by the weights and measures dept!
>Someone will correct me I'm sure if I am mistaken!
>
>AlanT
>Still in Phx AZ
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:57:27 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Trying to build access doors
Pete,
There is an access door for sale on Ebay right now. It is from a RV
salvage yard in the midwest, perhaps they will have the door you want.
Also, I was at C & G in Bellflower, CA recently and they have quite a
selection of doors and windows, have you contacted them?
Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA
http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari
gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>Pete
>Send me a photo if you can with some measurements of the extrusion your
>looking for. I may have some or I could make it if it's not to large. Are you
>looking for the T angle or U channel?
>
>Bobby
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:07:30 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Tom,
Thanks again for your site and Bill, these are great pictures, hope you
find a good use for this unique trailer.
Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA
http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari
Tom Patterson wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Ok, Bill sent me the pictures and I uploaded them onto my site.
>
> You can view them at http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/albums.php.
>
> Several thing to know about these albums.
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:33:10 -0500
From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Alan,
One other thing you can do is have your local propane
dealer install tank at your house (I think they call them
250lbs tanks). Have them install a "dip tube" valve that
goes to the bottom of that tank. This way you will be able
to draw "liquid" propane of the big tank off the bottom. Connect a "fill
hose or connector hose" from the large tank(liquid side) to the tank you
want
to fill. Crack open the bleeder valve on the tank being filled
to reduce the pressure inside that tank. This will allow the flow
of propane from the large tank to the small "RV" tank. When
the small take is full it will start to "spit" liquid propane out the
bleeder valve, or if its a OPD it will shut the valve on the small
tank being filled. Shutoff the valve and bleeder on the small tank,
also the valve on the large tank. Unscrew the connector hose slowly
to release the pressure and your done. Most people that read
my post back to you will think I'm nuts, but it is done everday by
the propane compaines. It is called "gravity filling a tank". When
I go on long trips with my Airstream, I take an extra 15 gallon
SS balloon tank to do just this. After you seen and done
it a couple of times you will be home filling your grill tanks, etc...
Remember one thing, "always" wear leather gloves when working
with propane. It boils at -44 degrees. It will give you frost bite and
burn you even in the middle of summer!
Paul Waddell
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "William Kerfoot" <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
> Alan,
>
> What I have seen in the past is a per gallon charge with a minimum,
> which usually equals a BBQ tank size. I check before filling and try
> and find a per gallon with no minimum retailer, or better yet find a
> propane distributor, most open Mon-Fri but some open on Sat. They have
> knowledgeable people and the prices are usually good.
>
> The minimum price may have to do with the time it takes an employee to
> fill the tank, no self service. I doubt that there is a regulation
> regarding only charging by the unit. Gas stations could do the same but
> unless everyone did they would not get much business. And there is self
> service, except for Oregon and I think New Jersey,.
>
> Bill Kerfoot
> WBCCI/VAC #5223
> 1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
> 1977 Lincoln Continental
> 1979 23' Airstream Safari
> Orange, CA
>
> http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari
>
>
> AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
> >In a message dated 12/13/2004 11:01:18 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
> >valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
> >
> >So my question is- will LP retailers fill a partially filled tank, and
> >charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones I've run in to
> >charge by the tank size
> >
> >
> >There was a time that I would fall for that scam!
> >Think about it......would you pay for a full tank of unleaded gas when
you
> >only needed a 1/2 a tank?
> >It's probably illegal to charge by tank size and not by the gallon!
> >ALOT of vehicles now run on LP~~NO WAY could you be charged by the tank
> >size!!
> >All fuels are regulated in some way by the weights and measures dept!
> >Someone will correct me I'm sure if I am mistaken!
> >
> >AlanT
> >Still in Phx AZ
> >
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:52:39 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: LP retailers
Paul Waddel said:
>Alan,
>
>One other thing you can do is have your local propane
>dealer install tank at your house (I think they call them
>250lbs tanks). Have them install a "dip tube" valve that
>goes to the bottom of that tank. This way you will be able
>to draw "liquid" propane of the big tank off the bottom. Connect a "fill
>hose or connector hose" from the large tank(liquid side) to the tank you
>want
>to fill. Crack ...
That's exactly how farmers with LP gas tractors and schools with LP gas
busses fill them.
Gerald J.
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