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VAL Digest Tuesday, December 14 2004 Volume 02 : Number 096
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[VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
[VAL] LP valve question
RE: [VAL] LP valve question
RE: [VAL] LP valve question
Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Re: [VAL] LP valve question
Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
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Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #84
Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
[VAL] 30 footer
Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:42:06 EST
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
We spent months looking for the aluminum extrusion that Airstream used in
it's 1967 access doors, with zero results.
However, we are sure that a machine shop that has milling machines, could
duplicate that extrusion.
The probable cost for that duplication, would usually change a persons mind
as to how critical they are for an "exact" replacement access door.
At this juncture a couple of the 64-68 segments are no longer available. The
cost to fabricate just "one" of these, has been determined to be over
$4000.00. That might change a persons mind as well.
Andy
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:01:50 -0500
From: "Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Just this week I was given an Airstream from a friend that had to move post
hurricane Charley. I have no clue what I have as it was
gutted and used for storage. There are two doors (one fore one aft) and it
seems to be in the 20ft. range. Could I possibly have
the part you are looking for?
Bill Pentheny Arcadia, Fl. fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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From: <Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
We spent months looking for the aluminum extrusion that Airstream used in
it's 1967 access doors, with zero results.
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:43:20 -0500
From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] LP valve question
Hello list-
I have a question regarding LP tanks our 1979 Int'l Sovereign. We have
2 forty pound tanks, converted to the OPD valves this summer. We used
to have gages before the OPD valves stole those holes. Now we have no
way of knowing for sure when we're running low on gas until we run
out. Interestingly that always seems to happen in the middle of the
night...
So my question is- will LP retailers fill a partially filled tank, and
charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones I've run in to
charge by the tank size (assuming, I suppose, that the tank is empty).
I doubt that moving the switching valve to some position between the
two tanks would allow one to empty completely without the other
emptying as well..?
Thanks for the advice!
Chris K.
WBCCI 8638
<www.koehnjourney.blogspot.com>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:51:31 -0500
From: "Peter Ryner" <pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] LP valve question
Chris,
I've found a lot of retailers that will refill a partial tank and only
charge for what they filled. The biggest chain is Flying J gas stations.
They have very good prices and you can join their club free and get a
discount on gas and LP. I think Loves does the same thing. You can also
get a regulator which will automatically cross from the empty tank to the
full one. You select the tank you want to start with, open both valves and
the regulator takes it from there. Very handy in cold weather, especially
in the middle of the night, which like you said is always when the tank runs
out.
Good luck
Pete
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[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]On Behalf Of Chris Koehn
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:43 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] LP valve question
Hello list-
I have a question regarding LP tanks our 1979 Int'l Sovereign. We have
2 forty pound tanks, converted to the OPD valves this summer. We used
to have gages before the OPD valves stole those holes. Now we have no
way of knowing for sure when we're running low on gas until we run
out. Interestingly that always seems to happen in the middle of the
night...
So my question is- will LP retailers fill a partially filled tank, and
charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones I've run in to
charge by the tank size (assuming, I suppose, that the tank is empty).
I doubt that moving the switching valve to some position between the
two tanks would allow one to empty completely without the other
emptying as well..?
Thanks for the advice!
Chris K.
WBCCI 8638
<www.koehnjourney.blogspot.com>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:46:05 -0600
From: Jim Clark <jec1938@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] LP valve question
Chris:
I know it sounds like throwing money away, but the desire to have my gages
back led me to giving my converted aluminum tanks to a friend and ordering
new aluminum tanks (30# in my case) with gages from AirstreamDreams.com....
I can absolutely attest that a switchover pressure regulator that is
working correctly, will empty one tank completely before switching to the
other tank...The pressure in the low tank does not drop until all the
liquid has evaporated...
The place filling the tank usually has a set policy as to if they will
charge by the lb. gal .. or just by the full tank... and the attitude is
always "take it or leave it... I just work here .. " prices for a 30#
tank vary from a low of $10.00 at a Missouri RV park to a high of $25.00+
here at Ace Hardware... I was paying about $11.00 last year in Texas as
Victoria Palms RV...
Good Luck...
Jim
At 06:51 PM 12/13/2004, you wrote:
>Chris,
>I've found a lot of retailers that will refill a partial tank and only
>charge for what they filled. The biggest chain is Flying J gas stations.
>They have very good prices and you can join their club free and get a
>discount on gas and LP. I think Loves does the same thing. You can also
>get a regulator which will automatically cross from the empty tank to the
>full one. You select the tank you want to start with, open both valves and
>the regulator takes it from there. Very handy in cold weather, especially
>in the middle of the night, which like you said is always when the tank runs
>out.
>Good luck
>Pete
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]On Behalf Of Chris Koehn
>Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:43 PM
>To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>Subject: [VAL] LP valve question
>
>
>Hello list-
>I have a question regarding LP tanks our 1979 Int'l Sovereign. We have
>2 forty pound tanks, converted to the OPD valves this summer. We used
>to have gages before the OPD valves stole those holes. Now we have no
>way of knowing for sure when we're running low on gas until we run
>out. Interestingly that always seems to happen in the middle of the
>night...
>So my question is- will LP retailers fill a partially filled tank, and
>charge for the amount pumped only? Most of the ones I've run in to
>charge by the tank size (assuming, I suppose, that the tank is empty).
>I doubt that moving the switching valve to some position between the
>two tanks would allow one to empty completely without the other
>emptying as well..?
>
>Thanks for the advice!
>
>Chris K.
>WBCCI 8638
><www.koehnjourney.blogspot.com>
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:21:52 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Hi Bill,
Can you send the VIN number from the placard on the Airstream? Any chance
you can get pictures of this trailer?
Tom
WBCCI 5303
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From: "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
> Just this week I was given an Airstream from a friend that had to move
> post hurricane Charley. I have no clue what I have as it was
> gutted and used for storage. There are two doors (one fore one aft) and
> it seems to be in the 20ft. range. Could I possibly have
> the part you are looking for?
> Bill Pentheny Arcadia, Fl. fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> ===================================================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:42 AM
> Subject: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>
>
> We spent months looking for the aluminum extrusion that Airstream used in
> it's 1967 access doors, with zero results.
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:38:46 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] LP valve question
You could plumb a pressure gauge at each of the inlet ports of the
regulator/selector valve.
You can determine how much liquid is in the tank by pouring hot water
over the tank. The liquid will keep that part of the tank cold while the gas
part will warm very rapidly. There's been temperature sensing strips sold to
make it easier to see the line. Check in RV catalogs for LP gas level sensor.
Its a cinch that if a filling place has no scale at the filling position, they are
only going to charge a fixed fee. If they have a scale to weigh the tank
before and after filing to see how much they added they might charge
only for the amount added. Those that have no scale are the ones that
caused the law to require the OPD valves because they didn't care to
watch that they didn't over fill the tanks.
If your regulator is old, it needs to be replaced because its unsafe. The
modern regulator comes with an automatic switching valve that should
empty one tank completely before switching over. You can tell which
tank is being used by the position of the manual switch button.
Gerald J.
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:42:04 -0500
From: "Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Peter Ryner is coming down from Tampa tommorrow to have a look see. Where
would the ID plate be located? I don't know much of
the history other than three bumper stickers from skydiving drop zones on
the door. I'm going to try and backtrack after the
holidays. Bill
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From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Hi Bill,
Can you send the VIN number from the placard on the Airstream? Any chance
you can get pictures of this trailer?
Tom
WBCCI 5303
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:56:29 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
The VIN plate is usually to the right of the entry door like on our older
1969 model year. There may also be the name given that size trailer -- ours
is an International Ambassador for instance.
Tom
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
> Peter Ryner is coming down from Tampa tommorrow to have a look see.
> Where would the ID plate be located? I don't know much of
> the history other than three bumper stickers from skydiving drop zones on
> the door. I'm going to try and backtrack after the
> holidays. Bill
> ==========================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Can you send the VIN number from the placard on the Airstream? Any chance
> you can get pictures of this trailer?
>
> Tom
> WBCCI 5303
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:09:20 -0500
From: "Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
0 5006 Airstream with an address from Los Angles, Ca. This trailor has
two entry doors. If you want to call I'll go out
with the phone and read you all the info I can find. It's a quiet evening here.
Bill
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
The VIN plate is usually to the right of the entry door like on our older
1969 model year. There may also be the name given that size trailer -- ours
is an International Ambassador for instance.
Tom
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:19:07 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
wow, wait a minute, Bill, you may have a treasure on your
hands even if it is gutted. 2 doors ?
In the front and rear, how many seams does it have to make
the curve over the windows ?
Daisy
Doc (The Tin Boat King) wrote:
> 0 5006 Airstream with an address from Los Angles, Ca. This trailor
has two entry doors. If you want to call I'll go out
> with the phone and read you all the info I can find. It's a quiet evening here.
Bill
> ===============================================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>
>
> The VIN plate is usually to the right of the entry door like on our older
> 1969 model year. There may also be the name given that size trailer -- ours
> is an International Ambassador for instance.
>
> Tom
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:23:03 -0700
From: "Fred Coldwell" <agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Bill:
Your trailer VIN # O 5006 is a 1954 30' long Airstream "Liner" model
built in Ohio, as denoted by the "O" prefix to the serial number. It
is the 5th 30' trailer built at the then-new Ohio plant.
Fred Coldwell
VAC Archive Historian
Doc (The Tin Boat King) wrote:
> 0 5006 Airstream with an address from Los Angles, Ca. This trailor
has two entry doors. If you want to call I'll go out
> with the phone and read you all the info I can find. It's a quiet evening
here. Bill
> ===============================================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>
>
> The VIN plate is usually to the right of the entry door like on our older
> 1969 model year. There may also be the name given that size trailer -- ours
> is an International Ambassador for instance.
>
> Tom
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:28:53 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
See! See ! It IS a treasure, don't need to count seams at all !
And I don't think it will have any of the extrusions that
are needed.
On the other hand, it is just the trailer I might like to
have if I dared to have another one...
I am NUTS.
Daisy
Fred Coldwell wrote:
> Bill:
>
> Your trailer VIN # O 5006 is a 1954 30' long Airstream "Liner" model
> built in Ohio, as denoted by the "O" prefix to the serial number. It
> is the 5th 30' trailer built at the then-new Ohio plant.
>
> Fred Coldwell
> VAC Archive Historian
>
> Doc (The Tin Boat King) wrote:
>
>> 0 5006 Airstream with an address from Los Angles, Ca. This
>> trailor has two entry doors. If you want to call I'll go out
>> with the phone and read you all the info I can find. It's a quiet
>> evening here. Bill
>> ===============================================================
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
>> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>>
>>
>> The VIN plate is usually to the right of the entry door like on our older
>> 1969 model year. There may also be the name given that size trailer
>> -- ours
>> is an International Ambassador for instance.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:56:50 -0500
From: "Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Does this mean I can't turn it into a work shop? I'd hate to ruin something
that's a rare classic. Anyone have any ideas. I'm
a disable vet and don't have the resorses to restore a wheel barrow let alone a
trailer. Bill
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Coldwell" <agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Bill:
Your trailer VIN # O 5006 is a 1954 30' long Airstream "Liner" model
built in Ohio, as denoted by the "O" prefix to the serial number. It
is the 5th 30' trailer built at the then-new Ohio plant.
Fred Coldwell
VAC Archive Historian
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:58:35 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Bill,
Where are you and the trailer located?
Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA
http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari
Doc (The Tin Boat King) wrote:
>Does this mean I can't turn it into a work shop? I'd hate to ruin something
that's a rare classic. Anyone have any ideas. I'm
>a disable vet and don't have the resorses to restore a wheel barrow let alone
a trailer. Bill
>==================================================================
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fred Coldwell" <agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>
>
>Bill:
>
> Your trailer VIN # O 5006 is a 1954 30' long Airstream "Liner" model
> built in Ohio, as denoted by the "O" prefix to the serial number. It
>is the 5th 30' trailer built at the then-new Ohio plant.
>
>Fred Coldwell
>VAC Archive Historian
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:01:54 -0500
From: "Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Arcadia, Florida (Hurricane Central) 863-993-1569
============================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "William Kerfoot" <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Bill,
Where are you and the trailer located?
Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:04:49 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Bill,
Thanks, too far away for me to do anything.
Bill Kerfoot
Doc (The Tin Boat King) wrote:
>Arcadia, Florida (Hurricane Central) 863-993-1569
>============================================================
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "William Kerfoot" <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
>To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>
>
>Bill,
>
>Where are you and the trailer located?
>
>Bill Kerfoot
>WBCCI/VAC #5223
>1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
>1977 Lincoln Continental
>1979 23' Airstream Safari
>Orange, CA
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:04:07 -0700
From: "Fred Coldwell" <agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Bill:
The Ohio plant built 41 30 footers in 1954, and the California plant
built some more (the Calif. production number is not known). It's
early, and likely rare, but not necessarily valuable. Value depends on
condition and size, among other things. What is the condition of your 30
footer? Stripped and empty? Or still fully furnished and complete?
Shorter trailers are generally more desired than longer trailers, and
your 30 footer is a very long trailer for the mid 1950s. More
information on value can be found here:
> http://www.vintageairstream.com/rr_topics_pricevscondition.html
Fred Coldwell
Doc (The Tin Boat King) wrote:
> Does this mean I can't turn it into a work shop? I'd hate to ruin something
that's a rare classic. Anyone have any ideas. I'm
> a disable vet and don't have the resorses to restore a wheel barrow let alone
a trailer. Bill
> ==================================================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Coldwell" <agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>
>
> Bill:
>
> Your trailer VIN # O 5006 is a 1954 30' long Airstream "Liner" model
> built in Ohio, as denoted by the "O" prefix to the serial number. It
> is the 5th 30' trailer built at the then-new Ohio plant.
>
> Fred Coldwell
> VAC Archive Historian
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:10:30 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #84
Hi All:
Home from Belize. I spent one night and 2 days in Belize City which
is right on the coast. Stayed at the Raddison Hotel which is the old
Ft. George Hotel I think. Anyway, very pretty lobby with lots of
tropical plants and furnishings. Complete with a great wait staff and
air conditioned rooms. Good food there also - exotic and delicious. Had
time to walk into "town" past the swing bridge. Traffic and driving and
pedestrians and ventors pretty much all intermixed in the streets and
sidewalks. You have to forget the word "rules" and take it as it comes.
Talk about freedom-loving... I think the country motto may be "We don't
need no stinking rules". If you can accommodate that attitude then
you'll have a fine time. I did. Lots of fresh fruit and seafood.
Day two started with an hour and half boat ride out to Turneffe
Atoll, my home for the next 6 days. The fishing started the next day
and it was 0800 to 1600 from then on. Bonefish and barracuda aplenty
and lots of fun on the fly rods. I had a real shot at permit - the top
trophy fish in all fly fishing to me - but I blew it - buck fever.
Honestly, I can't say a lot about the whole country but what I saw, and
the attitude of the people I met is that it's wonderful place. A very
poor economy yes but the weather was great, the people very friendly
and I'd love to go back to see more of the inland areas & rivers - if a
caravan ever develops, I'd be on it.
Didn't see any Airstreams or any other RVs for that matter. Lots of
old cars too.
Jo Ann
On Dec 2004, at 10:01 AM, MaryDotson@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> Joann,
> Due to getting VAL in digest form, I may have missed you.
> I was in Belize last week!
> Belize City is poor and underdeveloped (avoid walking near the cemetary
> where the squats are), but the countryside and the cays (beach
> islands) are
> stunning! We went cave tubing--an ethereal experience of floating
> through the
> middle of a mountain filled with stalagmites and stalagtites! The
> Mayan ruins
> are also pretty great there too. We had such a great time we started
> imagining buying a few acres for a trailer campsite. Land is
> cheap...and heck, it's
> only about a 3 day haul from Texas (perhaps on questionable roads),
> after
> all!
> Sorry that you can't blow this in our face every day, but when you get
> back,
> let us know what fun things you did!
> Mary
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:10:35 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Back, Back, I saw it first ! Long is good.
Daisy
Fred Coldwell wrote:
> Bill:
>
> The Ohio plant built 41 30 footers in 1954, and the California plant
> built some more (the Calif. production number is not known). It's
> early, and likely rare, but not necessarily valuable. Value depends on
> condition and size, among other things. What is the condition of your 30
> footer? Stripped and empty? Or still fully furnished and complete?
> Shorter trailers are generally more desired than longer trailers, and
> your 30 footer is a very long trailer for the mid 1950s. More
> information on value can be found here:
>
>> http://www.vintageairstream.com/rr_topics_pricevscondition.html
>
>
> Fred Coldwell
>
>
>
> Doc (The Tin Boat King) wrote:
>
>> Does this mean I can't turn it into a work shop? I'd hate to ruin
>> something that's a rare classic. Anyone have any ideas. I'm
>> a disable vet and don't have the resorses to restore a wheel barrow
>> let alone a trailer. Bill
>> ==================================================================
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Coldwell" <agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>>
>>
>> Bill:
>>
>> Your trailer VIN # O 5006 is a 1954 30' long Airstream "Liner" model
>> built in Ohio, as denoted by the "O" prefix to the serial number. It
>> is the 5th 30' trailer built at the then-new Ohio plant.
>>
>> Fred Coldwell
>> VAC Archive Historian
>>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:14:46 -0500
From: "Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Daisy tells me from my discription that the sink and appointments are original.
Two of the interior walls are still there. the
stove is gone but the piping for the gas is intack and the vent hood (minus the
blower) is there although not attached. It still
rolls and the running gear appears sound but I would guess bearing are in order.
All the window frames are still sthere but some
are glassless and bent. Bill
====================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Coldwell" <agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Bill:
The Ohio plant built 41 30 footers in 1954, and the California plant
built some more (the Calif. production number is not known). It's
early, and likely rare, but not necessarily valuable. Value depends on
condition and size, among other things. What is the condition of your 30
footer? Stripped and empty? Or still fully furnished and complete?
Shorter trailers are generally more desired than longer trailers, and
your 30 footer is a very long trailer for the mid 1950s. More
information on value can be found here:
> http://www.vintageairstream.com/rr_topics_pricevscondition.html
Fred Coldwell
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:26:03 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Heck Daisy,
You're almost there..............
Darth Vader can pull two trailers, can't he?
- -Tom
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
> Arcadia, Florida (Hurricane Central) 863-993-1569
> ============================================================
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:33:30 -0500
From: "Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] 30 footer
Time to shut this down. Good night all and many thanks for all the help and
tips. Bill
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:31:50 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Hi Doc,
Do you have any pictures?
You can't send them through to the list, as the e-mail program strips out
all attachments. However, if you have any, you can send them to me, at
tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com
and I will upload them to the site for all to see.
- -Tom
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
> Daisy tells me from my discription that the sink and appointments are
> original. Two of the interior walls are still there. the
> stove is gone but the piping for the gas is intack and the vent hood
> (minus the blower) is there although not attached. It still
> rolls and the running gear appears sound but I would guess bearing are in
> order. All the window frames are still sthere but some
> are glassless and bent. Bill
> ====================================================
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:32:50 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
Are you around at this moment, Bill?
My first post to you was sent at 9:56 EST, just got in from dinner.
Tom
WBCCI 5303
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" <fozzie10@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>0 5006 Airstream with an address from Los Angles, Ca. This
>trailor has two entry doors. If you want to call I'll go out
> with the phone and read you all the info I can find. It's a quiet evening
> here. Bill
> ===============================================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>
>
> The VIN plate is usually to the right of the entry door like on our older
> 1969 model year. There may also be the name given that size trailer --
> ours
> is an International Ambassador for instance.
>
> Tom
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:39:00 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1954 30' Liner
Daisy,
Go for it, you're in Florida.
Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA
http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari
Daisy Welch wrote:
> Back, Back, I saw it first ! Long is good.
>
> Daisy
>
> Fred Coldwell wrote:
>
>> Bill:
>>
>> The Ohio plant built 41 30 footers in 1954, and the California
>> plant built some more (the Calif. production number is not known).
>> It's early, and likely rare, but not necessarily valuable. Value
>> depends on condition and size, among other things. What is the
>> condition of your 30 footer? Stripped and empty? Or still fully
>> furnished and complete? Shorter trailers are generally more desired
>> than longer trailers, and your 30 footer is a very long trailer for
>> the mid 1950s. More information on value can be found here:
>>
>>> http://www.vintageairstream.com/rr_topics_pricevscondition.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Fred Coldwell
>>
>>
>>
>> Doc (The Tin Boat King) wrote:
>>
>>> Does this mean I can't turn it into a work shop? I'd hate to ruin
>>> something that's a rare classic. Anyone have any ideas. I'm
>>> a disable vet and don't have the resorses to restore a wheel barrow
>>> let alone a trailer. Bill
>>> ==================================================================
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Coldwell" <agrijeep@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>>> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: 1967 Access door extrusions
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill:
>>>
>>> Your trailer VIN # O 5006 is a 1954 30' long Airstream "Liner" model
>>> built in Ohio, as denoted by the "O" prefix to the serial number. It
>>> is the 5th 30' trailer built at the then-new Ohio plant.
>>>
>>> Fred Coldwell
>>> VAC Archive Historian
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
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