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VAL Digest          Sunday, October 31 2004          Volume 02 : Number 052




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Tundra towing - JoAnn
Re: [VAL] 1960 Tradewind Internationl Question
[VAL] solar electric
Re: [VAL] Tundra towing - JoAnn
Re: [VAL] Tundra towing - JoAnn
[VAL] JoAnn  OFF TOPIC  NON A/S
[VAL] Heater Fan
Re: [VAL] Heater Fan
[VAL] 1997 34' Airstream Limited Front Kitchen  --  FOR SALE
[VAL] Airstream for sale
Re: [VAL] Heater Fan
[VAL] Table Leg
Re: [VAL] Table Leg
Re: [VAL] Heater Fan
Re: [VAL] Heater Fan

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:35:27 -0700
From: "Richard        McFarland" <estatewagons@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: [VAL] Tundra towing - JoAnn

> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:07:37 -0700
> From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re:  Gas Mileage
>
  I tow with a Tundra (V8)
> I did take
> it out of overdrive (the manual suggests doing that), but I'm thinking
> I should keep it in overdrive on level ground and just keep an eye on
> the Tach. Any other Tundra tow vehicle folk out there?
> Jo Ann
>>

JoAnn - I just traded my 2001 Tundra in on a Honda Pilot and have redefined 
my
towing plans.  I'll use my 1977 Mercury wagon in the future.

I loved my Tundra - the smoothest - quietest vehicle I've ever owned.  It 
was a great highway road car.

I did a little towing with it - car trailer towing - and it was up towards 
the limit of it's towing capacity - and it was in hilly two-lane road 
territory.  The transmission had to hunt a lot even with the Overdrive off - 
and I had to really work the gas pedal - and I felt that if I did much more 
towing like that  ( at the Tundra's upper limits) - I'd want to keep it on 
the freeway.

There wasn't a transmission temp gauge - but I think there was an idiot 
light for transmission temperature.

Take care of your transmission - no matter what load you pull.

RL

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:43:02 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1960 Tradewind Internationl Question

I dont know about the 60 tradewind but my 65 Tradewind double the bed was 
similar to the front in as much as it folded up to a coutch it had a 39 in 
mattress for the seating aera and a filler for yhe back it pulled out for sleepinf 
and was a real eourture rack. I replaced it with new frames upholstery and used 
sofa bed hinges to make it useful.
Jim Smith

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:51:26 EDT
From: Annj949@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] solar electric

Hi all, can any one tell me if solarmetrics is still in business? I need some 
wiring done.
 The wiring from the panels has melted I need new connections. Thanks Ann @ 
9431

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:31:54 -0700
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Tundra towing - JoAnn

Richard - do you know if a trans temp gauge can be added on or better 
yet, a trans cooler & gauge? How heavy was your trailer? I also think 
the truck is the second most comfortable road "car" I've owned, bested 
only by our 1970 Citroen ID 19. I have the leather captain's chairs 
with electric controls and can change driving position easily while 
underway and avoid a lot of dumbbutt/ badback problems. That's a real 
plus when driving my modest 55 mph CA mandated speed for towing. I am 
quite sure I am the only person on the entire Interstate System going 
55 mph and will be lucky if I don't get rammed by a semi one day.
	How do you like the Pilot? You won't tow with it? I think the Mercury 
SUV is supposed to be a pretty nice vehicle for towing - did you look 
at it when shopping for the Pilot?
Jo Ann
>
> JoAnn - I just traded my 2001 Tundra in on a Honda Pilot and have 
> redefined my
> towing plans.  I'll use my 1977 Mercury wagon in the future.
> 	I loved my Tundra - the smoothest - quietest vehicle I've ever owned. 
>  It was a great highway road car.
> I did a little towing with it - car trailer towing - and it was up 
> towards the limit of it's towing capacity - and it was in hilly 
> two-lane road territory.  The transmission had to hunt a lot even with 
> the Overdrive off - and I had to really work the gas pedal - and I 
> felt that if I did much more towing like that  ( at the Tundra's upper 
> limits) - I'd want to keep it on the freeway.
> There wasn't a transmission temp gauge - but I think there was an 
> idiot light for transmission temperature.
> Take care of your transmission - no matter what load you pull.

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:53:00 -0700
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Tundra towing - JoAnn

Joann,

Any decent mechanic will be able to add both the cooler and gauge.  When 
I purchased the Lincoln, I had a cooler added, my Dodge PowerWagon came 
with the truck since it has a camper package.

By the way, I pay attention to the 55 speed limit, but travel closer to 
60, keeps you a little closer to the speed of traffic.  I just don't 
like to tow faster than that.

Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1979 23' Safari
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
Orange, CA

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Joann Wheatley wrote:

> Richard - do you know if a trans temp gauge can be added on or better 
> yet, a trans cooler & gauge? How heavy was your trailer? I also think 
> the truck is the second most comfortable road "car" I've owned, bested 
> only by our 1970 Citroen ID 19. I have the leather captain's chairs 
> with electric controls and can change driving position easily while 
> underway and avoid a lot of dumbbutt/ badback problems. That's a real 
> plus when driving my modest 55 mph CA mandated speed for towing. I am 
> quite sure I am the only person on the entire Interstate System going 
> 55 mph and will be lucky if I don't get rammed by a semi one day.

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:14:56 -0700
From: "Mark" <mark@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] JoAnn  OFF TOPIC  NON A/S

Hello Joann,

I'll risk breaching protocol to ask if you'd be willing to send a few
comments/caveats my way about your Citroen.  I've wanted one of those since
the first time I saw one in the late fifties.  I rode in one once and my
interest was nothing but intensified.  Some of the thing's I'd like to know
are:  how long have you owned it?  Would you have chosen a different
year/model given what you know now?  Has it been reliable?  Would you buy
another and, if so, what year and model would you seek?

My email address is mark at jellofish dot net, if you're willing.


Thanks either way,

Mark in Modesto

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:34:48 EDT
From: Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Heater Fan

Hello Everyone: I am working on the heater of the 1969 Tradewind.  I have the 
heater out and can hear the scraping of the fan on the housing.  Now the 
trouble.  I can't get the fan to come out of the housing.  I have taken the back 
apart, where the fan motor is but still can't get the fan to come out.  It 
looks like it is pressed on to the motor axle.  Can I Pull the fan off of this 
axle without bending it....doesn't look like I can.  The whole unit (fan and 
motor) won't come out the back of the fan housing.  I can see the fan turn with a 
wobble.  When it wobbles, I can feel it scraping the side of the housing.  
Evidently, when the whole unit gets hot, the scraping just gets worse.  If I can 
get the fan off, I can see if it can be straightned.  The fan motor is a Bosch 
and appears to be working well.  If any of you have taken the fan off an old 
Surburban heater like this before, let me know the secret.  Thanks for any 
help.

Tom Fairbank
1969 Tradewind

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:44:04 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Heater Fan

Just a guess.

The fan is a squirrel cage type.  Maybe it is mounted onto the motor shaft 
with an allen screw which holds a key-way tight to the motor shaft.

Also, maybe there is a threaded bolt and washer that screws into the end of 
the motor shaft holding the squirrel cage tightly onto the motor shaft.  If 
you can see the end where the squirrel cage would pull off the motor, you 
might be able to see a "key-way", but then again you may have to remove the 
bolt and washer screwed into the end of the motor shaft as described above.

IF there is a bolt and washer holding the squirrel cage pressed onto the 
shaft of the motor you most likely will NOT be able to SEE any key-way UNTIL 
the washer is removed first after first having removed the threaded bolt on 
the end of the motor shaft.

Too much info? ;))

Tom
WBCCI 5303

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From: <Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:34 PM
Subject: [VAL] Heater Fan


> Hello Everyone: I am working on the heater of the 1969 Tradewind.  I have 
> the
> heater out and can hear the scraping of the fan on the housing.  Now the
> trouble.  I can't get the fan to come out of the housing.  I have taken 
> the back
> apart, where the fan motor is but still can't get the fan to come out.  It
> looks like it is pressed on to the motor axle.  Can I Pull the fan off of 
> this
> axle without bending it....doesn't look like I can.  The whole unit (fan 
> and
> motor) won't come out the back of the fan housing.  I can see the fan turn 
> with a
> wobble.  When it wobbles, I can feel it scraping the side of the housing.
> Evidently, when the whole unit gets hot, the scraping just gets worse.  If 
> I can
> get the fan off, I can see if it can be straightned.  The fan motor is a 
> Bosch
> and appears to be working well.  If any of you have taken the fan off an 
> old
> Surburban heater like this before, let me know the secret.  Thanks for any
> help.
>
> Tom Fairbank
> 1969 Tradewind
>
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:27:41 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] 1997 34' Airstream Limited Front Kitchen  --  FOR SALE

I have a lead on a 1997 34' Airstream FK Limited (FK - Front Kitchen) that is
For Sale.

Please write to me off the list for details if you or someone you know is
interested.  I doubt this FK model will last long.


Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:38:00 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Airstream for sale

A couple weeks ago as I headed for Missouri I noticed a vintage Airstream with a 
for sale sign. It was about rural address 1400 on US 169 a few miles north of 
Winterset In Madison County, Iowa. Looked like 22 or 24' to me as I passed at 50 
mph. I didn't stop, I have no other information. That's about 85 miles from here.

Gerald J.

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:44:32 EDT
From: Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Heater Fan

Tom:  It is a squirrel cage and it does have a allen screw hole but no allen 
screw in it.  I thought this would make it easier for the cage to come off 
since the allen screw is missing.  No such luck.  I put WD-40 in the hole and 
tried to jiggle it around but it won't budge.....must be 30+ years of rust?  Now 
that I think of it.....the allen screw might be very small and I might not be 
able to see it at the top of the hole.  I'll try a allen wrench down in the 
hole and see what happens.  Thanks.

Tom

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:48:49 -0400
From: "eemerick" <eemerick@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Table Leg

Hello,
I'm looking for a table leg to install on the table in the dinette on
the 59. If possible I would want the hinge and the leg, just about any
year would work.
Thanks
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign
59 Traveler

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:03:32 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Table Leg

If its like the leg in my Caravel, its a standard RV table leg, nothing unique about 
it.

Gerald J.

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:08:18 -0400
From: "Brian Brown" <BBrown3996@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Heater Fan

I would bet there's a allen screw in there... sometimes the hole gets filled 
up with crud... That cage would be loose if there was not screw to hold it 
tight..

you could take it to an independant auto repair shop with a press.. 
sometimes those guys like to tinker with stuff and are helpful. ( I used to 
own a forgein car repair shop)

Good luck
Brian in NC
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From: <Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Heater Fan


> Tom:  It is a squirrel cage and it does have a allen screw hole but no 
> allen
> screw in it.  I thought this would make it easier for the cage to come off
> since the allen screw is missing.  No such luck.  I put WD-40 in the hole 
> and
> tried to jiggle it around but it won't budge.....must be 30+ years of 
> rust?  Now
> that I think of it.....the allen screw might be very small and I might not 
> be
> able to see it at the top of the hole.  I'll try a allen wrench down in 
> the
> hole and see what happens.  Thanks.
>
> Tom
>
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:33:07 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Heater Fan

Buy some Kroil -- you will have to buy it from the maker, Kano Labs or 
Laboratories in TN.

Load up the rusted areas on the shaft/squirrel cage but keep it out of the 
motor, with the Kroil creeping, rust-eating oil.  It's fantastic stuff.

If you can get a small wheel-puller type tool onto the squirrel cage while 
you turn the bolt on the wheel puller type tool you *should* be able to 
break the rusted connection.

The motor shaft will either have a flat area that lines up with the flat 
area on the sqirrel cage OR you will have a keyway that locks the motor 
shaft and the squirrel cage together.

Either way, you need to get rid of that rust and Kroil will do that for you.

Tom

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From: <Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Heater Fan


> Tom:  It is a squirrel cage and it does have a allen screw hole but no 
> allen
> screw in it.  I thought this would make it easier for the cage to come off
> since the allen screw is missing.  No such luck.  I put WD-40 in the hole 
> and
> tried to jiggle it around but it won't budge.....must be 30+ years of 
> rust?  Now
> that I think of it.....the allen screw might be very small and I might not 
> be
> able to see it at the top of the hole.  I'll try a allen wrench down in 
> the
> hole and see what happens.  Thanks.
>
> Tom
>
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