VAL Digest V2 #34

VAL Digest          Tuesday, October 12 2004          Volume 02 : Number 034




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #33
[VAL] Any changes to your contact info?
Re: [VAL] Squeaky door
Re: [VAL] Light work
Re: [VAL] Light work
[VAL] Salt Corrosion
Re: [VAL] Light work
Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion
Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion
Re: [VAL] Clearcoat Removal (was Salt Corrosion)
Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion
Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion
RE: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?
Re: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?
RE: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?
Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion
Re: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:35:22 -0700
From: "Debbie Rogers" <drogers@xxxxxxxxxx.k12.ca.us>
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #33

I will be out of the office for the week of October 4th through the 8th. 
I will not have access to email until October 11th.  Please contact me via
cell phone (707) 489-9986 or Sharon Malarich at (707) 467-5170 in the
event of an emergency.

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:58:20 -0400
From: Rick Langer <farreach@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?

A Texan asking for my personal information?  Right!  By the way, Cliff, what
type of Vintage Airstream do you own?

Rick Langer
'66 GT #3847


> Date: 10 Oct 2004 10:25:07 -0000
> From: "Cliff Horton" <cliffhort@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?
>
> Vintage,
>
> I'm updating my address book. Please take a moment to update me
> with your latest contact info.
>
>
> Click the following link to correct or confirm your information:
https://www.plaxo.com/edit_contact_info?r=8590689016-57144045--1848747520
>
> Name: Vintage Airstream
> Job Title:
> Company:
> Work E-mail: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Work Phone:
> Work Fax:
> Work Address Line 1:
> Work Address Line 2:
> Work City, State, Zip:
> Mobile Phone:
>
> Home E-mail:
> Home Phone:
> Home Fax:
> Home Address Line 1:
> Home Address Line 2:
> Home City, State, Zip:
> Birthday:
>
>
>
> P.S. I've included my Plaxo card below so that you have my current
information.  I've also attached a copy as a vCard.
>
>  +-----------------
>  | Cliff Horton
>  | cliffhort@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>  | Pastor
>  |
>  | First Presbyterian Church
>  | 312 N. Main
>  | Rusk, TX 75785
>  | work: 903.683.4602
>  | fax: same
>  +-------------------------------------
>/VAC/VAList/listoffice.html

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:16:40 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Squeaky door

It may take a penetrating oil to get to the squeak. WD-40 doesn't have much 
lubricant, I think its mostly distillate components closely related to kerosene. 
Real oil will gather dust. The local overhead door company recommends PB 
Blaster penetrating liquid as lubricant for overhead door torsion springs and 
rollers. Doesn't leave much oil to gather dust.

A graphited or teflonned penetrating oil could be effective. I used plain oil on 
my Caravel.

Gerald J.

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:59:12 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Light work

    All,

    As usual, thanks for the help nailing down the 1176 bulb number for my
cone lights.  I just got off the phone a few minutes ago and ordered a box
(10) of them from my local independent auto parts store.  I'll pick them up
late this afternoon and have well light interior by nightfall.

    Can anyone tell me what the overhead light fixture in the head should
look like in my Caravel?  The one that's there is pretty darned new looking
and appears to only have been there a short while.

    There is a hole match-drilled and through-drilled into both bi-fold
doors in the head.  Is that factory for holding the door open against the
forward bulkhead with a bolt and wing nut of was that someone's idea along
down the ownership line?

    I now have scanned photos of the completed interior for anyone
interested.  Please contact me back channel to see them.

    Thanks,

    Glyn Judson
    1969 Caravel #508
    Santa Monica CA

> From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:29:03 -0500
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Light work
> 
> My '68 Airstream owner's manual also says the lamp for the bedroom bullet
> fixtures in the 1176. In an old W.W. Grainger catalog, I see the 1156 is
> listed as 
> double contact bayonet INDEX, and the 1176 is listed as double contact
> bayonet (plain). The illustrations show the pins at different height for the
> INDEX 
> and the same height without the index modifier. So the 1176 is the lamp. W.W.
> Grainger might be a good place to get some yet. I don't think they have been
> used for cars and trucks ever, at least not for a long time.
> 
> Gerald J.
> 
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:53:36 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Light work

The three ceiling fixtures in my '68 Caravel are identical. One in the head, one at 
the galley and one up front. Squareish, four back up light lamps around the 
square, one in each compass direction, rotary switch to select 1, 2, or 4 in the 
middle holding up the translucent cover.

The folding door to my head has a strap with snaps to hold it open. At least 
used to have that.

Gerald J.

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:00:31 -0500
From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Salt Corrosion

Hello All,
I've just finished refastening the belly skin of my '56 Caravanner. Before I 
bought it, it must have been exposed to salted roads, since when I polished 
it there was a lot more pitting down low and in the front than anywhere 
else. As I was refastening the bottom, I noticed that there is also a 
covering of white flaky corrosion on the aluminum belly skin. I don't want 
this to get worse. Does anyone know of a solution I can mix or buy to remove 
the residual salt from the aluminum and stop it from eating more every time 
it gets wet?
Thanks,
Brian Jenkins

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:16:44 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Light work

    Gerald,

    Thanks, I'll look again in the head for the tell tale mounting holes for
the square fixture.  I even have two spares identical to what you describe,
one of which I could mount in there.

    Glyn

> From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:53:36 -0500
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Light work
> 
> The three ceiling fixtures in my '68 Caravel are identical. One in the head,
> one at 
> the galley and one up front. Squareish, four back up light lamps around the
> square, one in each compass direction, rotary switch to select 1, 2, or 4 in
> the 
> middle holding up the translucent cover.
> 
> The folding door to my head has a strap with snaps to hold it open. At least
> used to have that.
> 
> Gerald J.
> 
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:19:24 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion

    Brian,

    My first guess is that what you're seeing is aluminum oxide and unless
you plan to polish the bottom, I'd be tempted to leave it after brushing off
the excess.  That oxide protects the rest of the metal from getting eaten up
by the elements. 

    Glyn

> From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:00:31 -0500
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] Salt Corrosion
> 
> Hello All,
> I've just finished refastening the belly skin of my '56 Caravanner. Before I
> bought it, it must have been exposed to salted roads, since when I polished
> it there was a lot more pitting down low and in the front than anywhere
> else. As I was refastening the bottom, I noticed that there is also a
> covering of white flaky corrosion on the aluminum belly skin. I don't want
> this to get worse. Does anyone know of a solution I can mix or buy to remove
> the residual salt from the aluminum and stop it from eating more every time
> it gets wet?
> Thanks,
> Brian Jenkins
> 
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:31:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Birdsong <tbirddog7@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion

Dear All : I want to polish my Safari.I have some really good polish > But it 
seems their is a clear coat on my trailer (1964) why,I don't know.Does anyone 
know how to remove the clear coat with out spending a life time of grinding it off 
with a polish. Thanks,Tom Birdsong


		
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:45:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Amanda Meeker <goldens510@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Clearcoat Removal (was Salt Corrosion)

Tom,

A consensus seems to be developing that SV35AC from Napier Environmental 
Technologies (available at www.aircraftspruce.com, among others) is the way to go. 
I tried a couple of products, and this one was hands-down the easiest to use, as 
well as being the least toxic. 

Best, 

Amanda
'68 Safari 

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From: Tom Birdsong <tbirddog7@xxxxxxxxxx.com>

Does anyone know how to remove the clear coat with out spending a life time of 
grinding it off with a polish. 

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:46:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion

- --- Tom Birdsong <tbirddog7@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:

> Dear All : I want to polish my Safari.I have some
> really good polish > But it seems their is a clear
> coat on my trailer (1964) why,I don't know.Does
> anyone know how to remove the clear coat with out
> spending a life time of grinding it off with a
> polish. Thanks,Tom Birdsong
>

Tom, 
Use Paint stripper from Home Depot, or Aircraft
Stripper ( Napier Removeall) from Aircraft Spruce.
Good Luck,
Uwe 

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:00:06 +0000
From: safari_tim@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion

Tom,

I used Bix stripper from Home Depot.  Its a spray on chemcial that you spray 
onto the trailer and let it setup a few minutes and hose off.  Some stubborn 
areas may require two passes or light scraping with a plastic putty knife.

Read the instructions and follow them closely.  And don't get it on anything 
plastic that you intended to keep.  Wear gloves and eye protection.

- -Tim


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> Dear All : I want to polish my Safari.I have some really good polish > But it 
> seems their is a clear coat on my trailer (1964) why,I don't know.Does anyone 
> know how to remove the clear coat with out spending a life time of grinding it 
> off with a polish. Thanks,Tom Birdsong 

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:52:49 -0500
From: "cliffhort" <cliffhort@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?

Tom,
You must not be on Plaxo. I just got on that and it sent out a blanket
information request, which I thought was only going to other Plaxo members!
Oh well!
We have a 1981 31 ft Excella 500. It will be vintage when we retire in '06.
We sold a 1971 23 ft LY Safari when we purchased this one. Our WBCCI # is
26925. We have replaced all the uphostery (sp?) and curtains in the unit. we
also pulled out the 23 year old carpet (couldn't get rid of the smell) and
replaced it with linolium (sp?) tile to make it easier to keep clean. Have
put down area rugs in bedroom and living room.
Hope to run into you some time (figuratively speaking, of course). I enjoy
your writing and comments on airstreaming.
we are hoping to go full time when we retire.
Thanks for the reply to my "request".
Cliff & Lucy Horton

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:40:20 -0700
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?

What's Plaxo?
jo ann
On Oct 2004, at 1:52 PM, cliffhort wrote:

> Tom,
> You must not be on Plaxo. I just got on that and it sent out a blanket
> information request, which I thought was only going to other Plaxo 
> members!

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:46:51 -0500
From: "cliffhort" <cliffhort@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?

My apologies.
I didn't realize I was sending to the whole list, but in answer to the
question "What's Plaxo?", I'll send one more communication.
Plaxo is a product that syncronizes your address book and keeps it updated
with all other users of Plaxo.
That's the short version. For more info go to Plaxo.com.
I am not affiliated in anyway with this company.
Cliff

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:49:59 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Salt Corrosion

Brian

I doubt that it is salt corrosion - probably just normal rusting of the 
belly pan.  I too would scrape it off, it there is a lot of it, I would 
just replace the (or at least parts of) the belly pan.

Ken



At 02:00 PM 10/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello All,
>I've just finished refastening the belly skin of my '56 Caravanner. Before 
>I bought it, it must have been exposed to salted roads, since when I 
>polished it there was a lot more pitting down low and in the front than 
>anywhere else. As I was refastening the bottom, I noticed that there is 
>also a covering of white flaky corrosion on the aluminum belly skin. I 
>don't want this to get worse. Does anyone know of a solution I can mix or 
>buy to remove the residual salt from the aluminum and stop it from eating 
>more every time it gets wet?
>Thanks,
>Brian Jenkins
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:54:52 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Any changes to your contact info?

The problem with that sort of program is that it has the List address, and 
when it tries to synchronize, it sends the message to the entire List.

The only solution is to delete the List from your address list, and enter it 
manually when you need it.

Roger

Roger Hightower, WBCCI #4165, VAC
1975 31' Sovereign
2002 Ford F-250 PSD 

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