VAL Digest V2 #231

VAL Digest          Thursday, April 28 2005          Volume 02 : Number 231




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Re: skirts
Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.
Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.
Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.
Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.
Re: [VAL] skirts
[VAL] Toilet flange
Re: [VAL] skirts
Re: [VAL] Toilet flange

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:34:32 -0500
From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: skirts

Hi Sharon-


Thanks for the link to your pictures. What a nice looking trailer!

I see you have a Ford pick-up. I also tow with a Ford, although I think 
mine's a bit newer than yours (2000). I fabricated a set of over-size 
mud flaps for mine last winter. I was not game for paying the $100 + 
for store bought ones. My factory class 5 hitch that came on my Ford 
has open 2X2 steel tubes which can receive mud flaps in just the right 
spot to be effective. Looks like yours does too. I fabricated mine out 
of doubled up 5/4 treated decking. The steel tubes are angled forward 
14 degrees, so to get the mud flaps to be square to the tires, they 
must be angled back the same amount.
I'd be happy to E mail pictures (or post them on the VA site) if 
there's interest.
Total cost was ~$20; $10 for the wood and hardware and $10 for the 
flaps (purchased at a Flying J). They've been on from Texas to 
California and back to Wisconsin, over many gravel roads, and have 
worked well.

Best,

Chris Koehn
1979 @31' International Sovereign Land yacht
2000 F250 PSD 135K and going strong
Back in Wisconsin for a couple of months.


Sharon wrote:

"Not for me, but for the truck!

We need to get a rock guard for the window of our airstream, and we are
also looking at skirts that people have on their trucks. Some are big
mudflaps, and others are hula skirts. What are the pros/cons of both?"

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:09:03 -0500
From: Gerald <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.

On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 12:54 -0700, Glyn Judson wrote:
>     Gerald and all,
> 
>     OK, here's the real deal.  It appears that all the while the tubing was
> really 3/8" but the swelling from a prior freeze enlarged the piece I cut
> off to 7/16".  Had I more experience in these things, I'd have measured the
> tubing farther away from the split but my sample was taken from the freeze
> site.  
> 
>     So I went out to the hardware store with all your notes of last night
> and ended up with a length of 1/2" soft copper tubing that almost fit the
> 7/16" sample I had with me.  I say almost because it was a bad butt fit.  I
> bought a 3/8" tapered punch there (Proto tool) and did  a test enlarging on
> the heel of their bench vise.  The 7/16" tube fit beautifully.  I bought a
> 24" length of the 1/2" tubing, the punch and headed home.  By the way, I was
> able to control the size and depth of the enlargement by holding the tube in
> my hand with the punch in it.  I then slammed the back end of the punch down
> vertically on my bench vise, checking for fit every few slams and proceeded
> to the Caravel.  For those of you with a '69 Caravel, the patch was on
> either side of the bulkhead that separates the galley from the hanging
> locker, right over the wheel well.  It required temporary removal of the
> stove, no big thing.
> 
>     I prepped both ends of the existing tubing as well as the 9" patch at
> both ends and sweated it on.  The heat shield took the form of three
> thicknesses of a cardboard bow under a soaked terrycloth towel under a piece
> of thin, unplated sheet metal bent to deflect all heat away form any fire
> fuel source.  
> 
>     Then came the pressure check.  I left the city water on for 10-15
> minutes and examined both joints the whole time, no leaks at all!  Now on to
> the 1/2" leak(s)
> 
>     Thanks to all who graciously shared with me their experience and ideas,
> 
>     Glyn
I hope the solder holds. Typically a sweat fitting has an ID about .003"
over the tubing for a length of about a tube diameter. Lots of area for
solder and just a thick enough solder film to wick well but not so thick
as to make it easy to shear under vibration and pressure. Yours sounds
like its a bit tapered and I hope its long enough.

- -- 
Gerald J.
Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer
WBCCI #5623, VAC
All content copyright.

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:24:59 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.

    Gerald,

>>snip > I hope the solder holds

    Lets hope so too.  Now that I know it's really 3/8" tubing, I think
future the plan will be to chop it all out way past the patch and replace
like with like using compression fittings.  I say that because I don't think
sweat couplings come that small.

    Now on to the 1/2" tubing leak(s).

    Later,

    Glyn

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:53:43 -0500
From: Gerald <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.

On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 10:24 -0700, Glyn Judson wrote:
>     Gerald,
> 
> >>snip > I hope the solder holds
> 
>     Lets hope so too.  Now that I know it's really 3/8" tubing, I think
> future the plan will be to chop it all out way past the patch and replace
> like with like using compression fittings.  I say that because I don't think
> sweat couplings come that small.
> 
>     Now on to the 1/2" tubing leak(s).
> 
>     Later,
> 
>     Glyn
There are solder fittings for 1/2", 3/8", and 1/4" copper PIPE sizes and
larger. These are actually 5/8", 1/2" and 3/8" outside diameter. I see
McMaster also has 1/8" tube size that's 1/4" OD.

Bendable copper generally isn't soldered, but uses flare or compression
ring fittings. And it has different sizes available.

- -- 
Gerald J.
Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer
WBCCI #5623, VAC
All content copyright.

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:02:55 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.

    Gerald,

    Drat, you've McMastered me again!  ; -)

    Thanks,

    Glyn

> From: Gerald <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:53:43 -0500
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Is: It's done!, Was: Oddball tubing size.
> 
> On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 10:24 -0700, Glyn Judson wrote:
>> Gerald,
>> 
>>>> snip > I hope the solder holds
>> 
>> Lets hope so too.  Now that I know it's really 3/8" tubing, I think
>> future the plan will be to chop it all out way past the patch and replace
>> like with like using compression fittings.  I say that because I don't think
>> sweat couplings come that small.
>> 
>> Now on to the 1/2" tubing leak(s).
>> 
>> Later,
>> 
>> Glyn
> There are solder fittings for 1/2", 3/8", and 1/4" copper PIPE sizes and
> larger. These are actually 5/8", 1/2" and 3/8" outside diameter. I see
> McMaster also has 1/8" tube size that's 1/4" OD.
> 
> Bendable copper generally isn't soldered, but uses flare or compression
> ring fittings. And it has different sizes available.
> 
> -- 
> Gerald J.
> Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer
> WBCCI #5623, VAC
> All content copyright.
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:38:03 -0400
From: <pcfranke@xxxxxxxxxx.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] skirts

4/26/2005 2:54:41 PM, Sharon Chaytor <sharonbc@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:

>Pictures here:
>http://community.webshots.com/album/213175014qoRJxJ/1

What a beautiful dog!  Please tell us about him.

             -- Lew #4239

'72 Safari
Still stuck in Ohio --  again

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:09:34 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Toilet flange

    All,

    Is there someone out there who would be willing to let me send them two
images of the toilet base flange I finally got out of my '69 Caravel?

    It's a threaded plastic center that threads into my holding tank top
which is firmly attached to a metal ring that has mounting screw holes in it
as well as two slots for the 1/4-20 bronze bolts for mounting the toilet to.
The ring is then screwed to the fiberglass riser the toilet sits on.

    My hope is to buy a new one.  Short of that, I guess I'll have to clean
up this one that's somewhat rusted in places.

    Thanks (again),

    Glyn 

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:37:39 -0700
From: Sharon Chaytor <sharonbc@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] skirts

That is Sage, our Aussie/border collie mix. He is a good dog, and loves to 
go anywhere in the truck. Our other dog is in behind, and she is a Belgian 
Sheepdog, and is 13 this year.

They are getting quite accustomed to camping. I now have covers on the 
couches in the trailer, as the dogs like to sleep on them when we are not 
there! They know better when we are home.

Sharon


> >Pictures here:
> >http://community.webshots.com/album/213175014qoRJxJ/1
>
>What a beautiful dog!  Please tell us about him.
>
>              -- Lew #4239
>
>'72 Safari
>Still stuck in Ohio --  again

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:48:47 -0700
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Toilet flange

Glyn,

go send!
info@xxxxxxxxxx.com

Best,

Uwe Salwender
Orange CA


On Wednesday, April 27, 2005, at 01:09  PM, Glyn Judson wrote:

>     All,
>
>     Is there someone out there who would be willing to let me send 
> them two
> images of the toilet base flange I finally got out of my '69 Caravel?
>
>     It's a threaded plastic center that threads into my holding tank 
> top
> which is firmly attached to a metal ring that has mounting screw holes 
> in it
> as well as two slots for the 1/4-20 bronze bolts for mounting the 
> toilet to.
> The ring is then screwed to the fiberglass riser the toilet sits on.
>
>     My hope is to buy a new one.  Short of that, I guess I'll have to 
> clean
> up this one that's somewhat rusted in places.
>
>     Thanks (again),
>
>     Glyn
>
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