VAL Digest V2 #219

VAL Digest          Saturday, April 16 2005          Volume 02 : Number 219




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] Glyn's offer on the shaver
[VAL] Olympic Rivets
[VAL] Re: Shaver
Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets
Re: [VAL] Re: Shaver
Re: [VAL] Thanks to all
Re: [VAL] Thanks to all
Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets
Re: [VAL] Thanks to all
RE: [VAL] "Window Eyebrow" question
Re: [VAL] Thanks to all
[VAL] Vulkem
Re: [VAL] Vulkem
Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets
Re: [VAL] Vulkem
[VAL] International
Re: [VAL] Thanks to all
Re: [VAL] Vulkem
Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets
Re: [VAL] Vulkem
Re: [VAL] International
Re: [VAL] International
[VAL] Looking for '69 window frame
Re: [VAL] Vulkem
Re: [VAL] International
Re: [VAL] Vulkem
[VAL] Cargo Shifting: Stainless steel Bowen water heater door. 
[VAL] Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
[VAL] Dawg Rulz re:Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Vulkem
[VAL] Stuff I still need.
[VAL] (no subject)
Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame
Re: [VAL] (no subject)
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame
Re: [VAL] (no subject)
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
[VAL] cable TV vs. satellite TV
Re: [VAL] Springfield International
Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #218
Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #218
Re: [VAL] Cargo Shifting: Stainless steel Bowen water heater door. 
Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame
Re: [VAL] Cargo Shifting: Stainless steel Bowen water heater door. 

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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:30:46 -0700
From: "Mark" <mark@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Glyn's offer on the shaver

Hear hear!

Mark in Modesto

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:20:25 -0400
From: "Deborah Bede" <stillwaterstudio@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Olympic Rivets

Glynn:

You said you used two Olympic rivets and then decided not to use that style
anymore - I'm interested in why not?

And a related question for everyone on the list - I remember seeing some
photos somewhere on someone's web site showing how to trim one of the "legs"
of an Olympic rivet so it can be used next to a frame member - does anyone
know where this can be found?

Thanks,
Deborah

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:20:58 -0400
From: Patricia Raimondo <praimondo@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: Shaver

Thanks Glyn, I'm going to order one today while I am still employed! Long list of 
what Pearl needs before I retire from teaching in NY in June!

Patti

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:02:50 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets

    Deborah,

    Given that the rest of the rivets I plan to install will allow access
from behind, I would prefer using conventional (Cherry?) rivets.  I have
bought all the necessary tools to do this including a proper sized air
compressor that now requires me to improve the electrical service to the
garage for it to operate beyond 40 PSI, where it now pops the circuit
breaker, an air impact air hammer with rivet stem and a bucking bar.

    I might add that I owe a lot to Uwe for setting me straight on what to
buy and where when it came to the tools and rivets.

    As some of you know, I'll be adding an access door to the curbside just
aft of the wheel well which will allow the large and dusty space under the
berth and outboard of the plastic tubs to be used for the first time in 36
years.  I actually have a door that I could put in now but bought it before
doing my homework.  It turns out to be from  the mid 1980's and would not be
visually correct on my 1969 Caravel.  I'm currently arranging for the proper
door with correct Chicago pop out lock for that installation.  I hope
getting this door really does happen because this particular task has been
dragging on too long.

    As far as the two Olympic rivets I did use the other day are concerned,
I may well replace them with conventional rivets some time on down the line
but wanted to get them into the holes I drilled at the end of the 1" long
skin tears adjacent to the top corners of my Bowen water heater cutout.  I
wanted to just get them in and move on to my next project, sweating two
leaks I've found at joints in the copper water line.  I'm sure I'll
eventually remove the entire heater for the sake of access to the rear of
those two rivets with a bucking bar so as to replace them but just not now.

    It strikes me as funny for me to go to such lengths for these skin tears
and those tow little rivets because the Caravel is in place at the back of
the property with no plans for us to ever move from that spot as long as we
own her.  I guess what it boils down to is that I'm doing it long term for
the next owner many, many years from now.

    So far as trimming the legs of an Olympic rivet goes, I'd like to read
that one myself.  When installing them at the water heater the other day, I
noticed an empty hole in the skin where a factory installed rivet had been.
I inserted an Olympic rivet there but it quickly bottomed out on something
behind it.  Eventually I'd like to get some sort of rivet in there too.

    Regards,

    Glyn

> From: "Deborah Bede" <stillwaterstudio@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:20:25 -0400
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Olympic Rivets
> 
> Glynn:
> 
> You said you used two Olympic rivets and then decided not to use that style
> anymore - I'm interested in why not?
> 
> And a related question for everyone on the list - I remember seeing some
> photos somewhere on someone's web site showing how to trim one of the "legs"
> of an Olympic rivet so it can be used next to a frame member - does anyone
> know where this can be found?
> 
> Thanks,
> Deborah
> 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:06:07 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Shaver

    Patti,

    Good for you girl on both fronts, getting a shaver and RETIRING!!

    Glyn

  
> From: Patricia Raimondo <praimondo@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:20:58 -0400
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] Re: Shaver
> 
> Thanks Glyn, I'm going to order one today while I am still employed! Long list
> of what Pearl needs before I retire from teaching in NY in June!
> 
> Patti
> 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:12:41 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Thanks to all

You have a source for the Oddie door fastners?!? This is the first time in
8+ years I have heard anyone say that! Mine are intact, but I believe that
there are several people that are in need of these cabinet door fastners. I
wouldn't mind having an extra on hand, with the kids, you never know.

Scott Scheuermann

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Sweetbeee@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
  I have small
> Oddie Fastener knobs on drawers and cabinets.  The knob parts work but the
> base/sleeve on some of them no longer function.  I know who sells them in
the
> netherlands, but in large lots on some items, does anyone have any sources
here in
> the USA?  Any tips?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bebe Gordon
> 62 Tradewind
> Lafayette LA

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:44:00 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Thanks to all

I have to ask, what's an Oddie door fastener? Can some one send me a picture
or lead me to a link of one? This is new terminology for me.

Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT 

on 4/15/05 6:12 AM, Scott Scheuermann at s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net
wrote:

> You have a source for the Oddie door fastners?!? This is the first time in
> 8+ years I have heard anyone say that! Mine are intact, but I believe that
> there are several people that are in need of these cabinet door fastners. I
> wouldn't mind having an extra on hand, with the kids, you never know.
> 
> Scott Scheuermann
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Sweetbeee@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> I have small
>> Oddie Fastener knobs on drawers and cabinets.  The knob parts work but the
>> base/sleeve on some of them no longer function.  I know who sells them in
> the
>> netherlands, but in large lots on some items, does anyone have any sources
> here in
>> the USA?  Any tips?
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Bebe Gordon
>> 62 Tradewind
>> Lafayette LA
> 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:49:52 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets

Deborah -
Here's the link to the website on the Olympic rivet installation:

http://www.airstreamforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23&highlight=olympic

Peter has done a great job of explaining and posting pictures.

Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT 

on 4/15/05 5:20 AM, Deborah Bede at stillwaterstudio@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:


> And a related question for everyone on the list - I remember seeing some
> photos somewhere on someone's web site showing how to trim one of the "legs"
> of an Olympic rivet so it can be used next to a frame member - does anyone
> know where this can be found?
> 
> Thanks,
> Deborah

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:01:05 -0400
From: Dave Lowrey <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Thanks to all

Brad Norgaard wrote:

>I have to ask, what's an Oddie door fastener? Can some one send me a picture
>or lead me to a link of one? This is new terminology for me.
>
>  
>
Here you go:
http://www.materiaal.nl/eng/now/showproducts_cc1ta620.htm

Dave

- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
Dave & Ann Lowrey - WBCCI: 5074
dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com

1977 31' Sovereign International - Mid Bath

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:23:25 -0500
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] "Window Eyebrow" question

Message received back from Randy Sumner.

- -Tom
_________________________________________________

Bob..............That's exactly it.....Your great...your the only one in the
world (and now me) who knows where to find these items...Thanks!!!


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bpatt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] "Window Eyebrow" question


> You can find drip caps here:
> http://tinyurl.com/6srr7
>
>
> Bob Patterson
>
>
>>    Would you have a place to start looking for the aluminum Eye Brow over
>> the top of the windows......like on a "57"Clipper? I tried the Airstream
>> dealer and the profile the factory faxed him is completely different!( as
>> you know Airstreams from from the 50's and 60's had the same looking
>> piece over the windows)
>>    Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>>                                                                Randy

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:58:27 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Thanks to all

If I have it right, the Oddie door fastner is the latch used on the closet
doors of the late 50's through mid 60's models. It is the knob that you turn
to open and close your closet doors.

Scott
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Norgaard" <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Thanks to all


> I have to ask, what's an Oddie door fastener? Can some one send me a
picture
> or lead me to a link of one? This is new terminology for me.
>
> Brad Norgaard
> Phoenix
> '59 Trade Wind Twin
> VAC #2699, TCT
>
> on 4/15/05 6:12 AM, Scott Scheuermann at s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net
> wrote:
>
> > You have a source for the Oddie door fastners?!? This is the first time
in
> > 8+ years I have heard anyone say that! Mine are intact, but I believe
that
> > there are several people that are in need of these cabinet door
fastners. I
> > wouldn't mind having an extra on hand, with the kids, you never know.
> >
> > Scott Scheuermann
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Sweetbeee@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > I have small
> >> Oddie Fastener knobs on drawers and cabinets.  The knob parts work but
the
> >> base/sleeve on some of them no longer function.  I know who sells them
in
> > the
> >> netherlands, but in large lots on some items, does anyone have any
sources
> > here in
> >> the USA?  Any tips?
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Bebe Gordon
> >> 62 Tradewind
> >> Lafayette LA
> >
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:14:59 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Vulkem

I just ordered a couple of tubes of Vulkem for an Awning project I have
planned. My experience with using Vulkem is that once you open the tube any
unused portion in the tube will harden. My project will probably take less
than a tube, so what's left will be a loss. Is there a way that anyone has
found to seal the tube to stop the remaining Vulkem in the tube from
hardening.

Don

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:27:53 -0700
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vulkem

 Is there a way that anyone has
> found to seal the tube to stop the remaining Vulkem in the tube from
> hardening.
> 
> Don
 Don, 
Hot glue the end of the tube closed. Works great. Just like a new tube!
Colin Hyde

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:39:54 -0700
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets

Glyn:
    Just curious as to why you're never going to tow the Caravel?
>

> ...... It strikes me as funny for me to go to such lengths for these 
> skin tears
> and those tow little rivets because the Caravel is in place at the 
> back of
> the property with no plans for us to ever move from that spot as long 
> as we
> own her. 

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:56:52 +0000
From: safari_tim@xxxxxxxxxx.net (Tim S)
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vulkem

I just put a nail in the end of it, the size of the opening I cut.

Then put it in a freezer bag and stick the whole thing in the freezer.  When I need 
to use it, I just set it out for a half hour before I need it.  Then when done put it back in the freezer.

I have been able to keep one usable for several months this way.

- --
- -Tim 
www.ldservice.com/tim/tim

- -------------- Original message -------------- 

> I just ordered a couple of tubes of Vulkem for an Awning project I have 
> planned. My experience with using Vulkem is that once you open the tube any 
> unused portion in the tube will harden. My project will probably take less 
> than a tube, so what's left will be a loss. Is there a way that anyone has 
> found to seal the tube to stop the remaining Vulkem in the tube from 
> hardening. 
> 
> Don 
> 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:56:40 -0400
From: "Vasquez, David" <DVASQUEZ@mta-esa.org>
Subject: [VAL] International

Greetings People:
  I'm getting the international itch and have not heard anything as how we
are getting
Together and where to parade into the event this year. Anybody have some
info to share.
 
David Vasquez
WBCCI and VAC

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:18:58 -0500
From: Gerald <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Thanks to all

On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 10:01 -0400, Dave Lowrey wrote:
> Brad Norgaard wrote:
> 
> >I have to ask, what's an Oddie door fastener? Can some one send me a picture
> >or lead me to a link of one? This is new terminology for me.
> >
> >  
> >
> Here you go:
> http://www.materiaal.nl/eng/now/showproducts_cc1ta620.htm
> 
> Dave

And to think I thought that all quarter turn fasteners were from DZUS.
http://www.dfcis.com
http://www.milspecproducts.com/disclaimer.htm
http://www.dzus.com/Live/Dzus/CMS.nsf/Site/Home/Contacts/Key_Contacts
http://www.paneloc.com/bifix.htm
http://www.southco.com/landingpages/dzus/

Now they fight over the name and the products. The fundamental patents
must have expired so many make similar but probably not interchangeable
parts.


- -- 
Gerald J.
Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer
WBCCI #5623, VAC
All content copyright.

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:57:40 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vulkem

The other thing you can do is store it in a freezer

Ken J

At 11:27 AM 04/15/05 -0700, you wrote:
>  Is there a way that anyone has
> > found to seal the tube to stop the remaining Vulkem in the tube from
> > hardening.
> >
> > Don
>  Don,
>Hot glue the end of the tube closed. Works great. Just like a new tube!
>Colin Hyde
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:05:08 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets

    Joann,

    As you'll remember on the trip down when we bought the Caravel in
Sacramento we had a rented U-Haul 14 foot box truck hooked to her when we
pulled up in front of your place.  That's because Marilyn drives a 1991
Toyota Celica and I have a 1995 Toyota Camry wagon, neither one of which is
capable of pulling that kind of a load.

    Our long-term plans include first replacing the Celica with a Toyota
Prius within the next year or two and then replacing the Camry with a Prius
wagon if Toyota ever chooses to make one.  Clearly neither one of those
vehicles are up to pulling my 3,000 pound (now) '69 Caravel either.  Anyway
we've always had a small trailer at the back of the property as overflow for
family and friends.  Kids just love the idea of "camping" in them  and to
that end, I'll get the pressurized water leaks sweated and then T into our
existing domestic sewer line so the Caravel will be completely self
sufficient.  My next door neighbor is a former plumber and has agreed to
supervise a crew to trench and install the ABS plumbing, water trap, etc.

    In all the years we had other trailers and bigger cars we towed them
quite infrequently.  I think one trip to Yosemite and a few to a state beach
campgrounds 45 minutes north of us on the Pacific Coast Highway.

    Regards,

    Glyn  

> From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:39:54 -0700
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Olympic Rivets
> 
> Glyn:
> Just curious as to why you're never going to tow the Caravel?
>> 
> 
>> ...... It strikes me as funny for me to go to such lengths for these
>> skin tears
>> and those tow little rivets because the Caravel is in place at the
>> back of
>> the property with no plans for us to ever move from that spot as long
>> as we
>> own her. 
> 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:14:46 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vulkem

I dont know about Vulkem as I use 5200 but to keep the unused porton from 
harding I keep it in the refrigator and have been known to eaven keep in the 
freezer.I have kept over a year and it was as usable as when new. This might work 
on Vulkem. Both are similar.
Jim Smith

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:49:30 -0500
From: overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] International

Greetings David!

> Greetings People:
>   I'm getting the international itch and have not heard
anything as how we are getting Together and where to parade
into the event this year. Anybody have some info to share.
>
> David Vasquez
> WBCCI and VAC
>
> -----------------------------------------------

I will be caravanning in with the Wagon Wheels Caravan, and
just checked the information that I have and all of my
information basically indicates that the pre-rally site will
be announced cloer to time for the International.  I believe
in the past, the actual pre-rally site was typically
announced about 45 to 60 days prior to the International
Rally via the VAC website as well as publication in the
Vintage Advantage -- I can't remember where I heard this (so
it may not be correct), but seem to remember mention being
made that a newsletter may be sent out to VAC membership
prior to the International Rally rather than a full copy of
the Vintage Advantage.

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers/Computer Club #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400
VORTEC/4.10 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:45:20 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] International

David,

I believe that this info will be included in Bob Herman's newsletter, which
will be mailed very soon (if it hasn't been already). It will be mailed to
all VAC members and VA subscribers.

Scott Scheuermann
VAC Membership

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vasquez, David" <DVASQUEZ@mta-esa.org>
> Greetings People:
>   I'm getting the international itch and have not heard anything as how we
> are getting
> Together and where to parade into the event this year. Anybody have some
> info to share.
>
> David Vasquez
> WBCCI and VAC

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:55:56 EDT
From: Hugheym@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame

Hello,
     I am looking for a window for a '69 International,  the window is the 
swing out portion on the curb side, located to the right of  the door. The 
window is 18 5/8 x 22 1/4. 
 
     If anyone has a lead on one please contact me. 
 
     I managed to get most of the twist put in the  frame when it was broken 
into. I am going to try one more time to remedy  the problem. If that doesn't 
work. I may have to get one from Andy at Inland  RV.  
 
     Thanks for your time.
 
 
Martin and Rachel  Hughey
WBCCI 10212, Vintage A/S
1969 International and 1961  Bambi

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:11:44 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vulkem

I too use the nail and the plastic bag, but the freezer is 
too full of ice cream !

Daisy

JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

> I dont know about Vulkem as I use 5200 but to keep the unused porton from 
> harding I keep it in the refrigator and have been known to eaven keep in the 
> freezer.I have kept over a year and it was as usable as when new. This might work 
> on Vulkem. Both are similar.
> Jim Smith
> 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:19:55 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] International

The rumor of a newsletter with all important info is 
actually true.

I just send the mailing labels to Bob Herman, so he better 
be doing something with them :]

I do have some preliminary info, but I better wait for the 
officials to say something in case there have been changes 
in the plan.

If you are wondering what we're talking about, the Vintage 
Club gathers at a place with in a few miles of the 
International Rally site the night before we are due in, and 
then we all line up and the cops come and stop traffic and 
we parade through the streets of Springfield MO, a whole 
line of elderly trailers, gleaming in the sun, flags flying. 
It is too cool to see and even better to be a part of.

The camping the night before is sometimes boondocking and 
sometimes in a campground with services, and there is always 
a small fee ( to bribe the police ?)

When Bob has recovered from mailing out the newsletter, I'm 
sure he will say something here !

If you are coming to International, this parade is one of 
the best parts !!! So join us !

Daisy

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:10:21 -0400
From: Bob Patterson <bpatt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vulkem

I hate getting stuck with a plugged up tube of Vulkem. What I do is cut a 
small window in the side of the cardboard tube and dip my rivets in the 
fresh goo. I then seal the window with shipping tape. If the window hardens 
just cut another small window.
Bob Patterson

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:10:40 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Cargo Shifting: Stainless steel Bowen water heater door. 

    All,

    PLEASE READ THIS WHOLE NOTE FIRST BEFORE RESPONDING.

    I have two complete Bowen water heaters.  I purchased my '69 Caravel  a
few years ago with a non-working Bowen G6A-1 water heater already in it and
have a G6A-2 in the garage that I recently bought on eBay.  I made the
installed one work from the parts of the two and now want to share a spare
door with the List from the G6A-2.

    OK, here's the deal.  If you, and I mean if YOU really need this door
for your own Airstream Bowen G6A-1 or -2  water heater and are the first to
respond AFTER YOU HAVE FIRST MEASURED YOUR HEATER and compared it to the
measurements I'll show below, I'll send it to you for the asking.

    I'm told that these doors are as scarce as hens teeth so it would be
very cool for one of you to benefit from my extra door.

    As with all my Cargo Shifting, there's no charge for it, I just ask that
you agree to cover the postage and at that, only after you've gotten it and
are happy with it. 

    Here are the measurements of mine that I ask you to compare first to
your needs before asking for it.

    Door width = 18"
    Door height = 14 9/16"
    Cutout height = 5"
    Cutout width = 7 13/16"
    Distance of cutout from left side of door edge = 1 5/8"
    Distance of cutout from top of door edge = 1"
    Height of slot = 1"
    Distance of slot from left side of door edge = 10 1/2"
    Distance of slot from top of door edge = 1"

    The door is in pretty darned good shape with no scratching on its
brushed stainless steel surface.  There is a very minor 1" vertical dent in
the metal coincident with the right hinge arm.  If you have a Bowen, you'll
know what I mean.

    There is no pilot lighting hole in the door, it must be a design
predating that feature.  I'm assuming that my Bowen G6A-1 water heater is
the original on my 1969 Caravel so this G6A-2 door might be from a slightly
newer heater but is identical to the one I already have.

    Good luck, 

    Glyn Judson
    1969 Caravel #508
    Santa Monica CA

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:32:09 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Springfield International

For those who have not received their April Blue Beret's yet, here are a 
couple of items of interest from the presidents corner.

Bus service between the rally site and the downtown Expo Center will be 
limted to the opening ceremony plus all evening programs. ..... Members 
who have relied on the WBCCI shuttle bus service during the day need to 
bring a vehicle or arrange to ride with other attendees. Seems Missouri 
doesn't allow school buses to transport adults. So they've contracted 
with the city at twice the cost for limited transportation.

I have been asked to let all canine aawners know that canine parking 
will be strictly enforced at the International Rally this year.

Food for thought and planning.

Charlie

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:44:35 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

> I have been asked to let all canine owners know that canine parking
> will be strictly enforced at the International Rally this year.
>
> Food for thought and planning.

Well that's no problem, my canine, "Duke" owns me. I guess he can park
anywhere he wants to.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:15:41 EDT
From: HHamp5246@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

In a message dated 4/15/2005 5:32:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:


> I have been asked to let all canine aawners know that canine parking 
> will be strictly enforced at the International Rally this year.
> 
I wonder if they made Wally Byam, and his two dogs, park in canine parking.

Hunter 


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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy 
shit...what a ride!"

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:18:04 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

Strictly enforced canine parking?  Please explain, Charlie.

Tom

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlie/Betty Burke" <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>; "Airstream Listserver" 
<AirstreamList@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:32 PM
Subject: [VAL] Springfield International


> For those who have not received their April Blue Beret's yet, here are a
> couple of items of interest from the presidents corner.
>
> Bus service between the rally site and the downtown Expo Center will be
> limted to the opening ceremony plus all evening programs. ..... Members
> who have relied on the WBCCI shuttle bus service during the day need to
> bring a vehicle or arrange to ride with other attendees. Seems Missouri
> doesn't allow school buses to transport adults. So they've contracted
> with the city at twice the cost for limited transportation.
>
> I have been asked to let all canine aawners know that canine parking
> will be strictly enforced at the International Rally this year.
>
> Food for thought and planning.
>
> Charlie
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:25:55 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Dawg Rulz re:Springfield International

Most likely people other than Wally didn't *know* they could take their dogs 
or other pets along in those early days?  That would have been a real luxury 
in the days when luxuries weren't common for "common folk".  Not many people 
had a stash of cash to spend on their animals like we do for ours today that 
I have read about.  Of course, since I'm just a youngster myself I didn't 
know anyone personally who did either.

Could it be that due to Wally and other pet owners that we have the *rulz* 
we have today where we are almost made to ride "in the back of the trailers" 
or at least to park in the back of the park?  Nah .... but some part of our 
society caused us trailerites to not only be thought of as "trailer trash" 
but now our animals get "trashed", too?  Tain't fair!

Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303


From: <HHamp5246@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:
>> I have been asked to let all canine aawners know that canine parking
>> will be strictly enforced at the International Rally this year.

> I wonder if they made Wally Byam, and his two dogs, park in canine 
> parking.
>
> Hunter 

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:28:11 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

Well, there you go!  Dawgs rule sez: park where you want! ;)

Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303


From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>

>> I have been asked to let all canine owners know that canine parking
>> will be strictly enforced at the International Rally this year.
>>
>> Food for thought and planning.
> 
> Well that's no problem, my canine, "Duke" owns me. I guess he can park
> anywhere he wants to.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:36:46 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vulkem

Great idea, Bob!

Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Patterson" <bpatt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vulkem


>I hate getting stuck with a plugged up tube of Vulkem. What I do is cut a 
>small window in the side of the cardboard tube and dip my rivets in the 
>fresh goo. I then seal the window with shipping tape. If the window hardens 
>just cut another small window.
> Bob Patterson
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:36:30 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Stuff I still need.

    Tom,

    It was fun talking to you a few minutes ago.  Attached is an image of
the gold l-track I need 68" of for the bottom of the galley curtains.  I
also snapped a shot of my way cool accessory step that I bought on eBay.

    The last image is of Marilyn in the Caravel hugging Bruce about a month
ago.  He's even slightly bigger now.

    Send me the link to that gal's parts list will you?

    Thanks,

    Glyn

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x-mac-creator="6F676C65"; x-mac-type="4A504547]

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:45:15 EDT
From: Vspinot@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] (no subject)

Hello All---Looking for a tow vehicle for my newly aquired 31', 1980  
Excella. It weighs 6200 lbs. Thinking about a F250 or F350 diesel. Some have  dual 
tires; is this a decided advantage when towing? Thanks, Dick  Erath.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:05:46 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame

What size is your trailer?

Tom


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Hugheym@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Cc: <Hughem@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 2:55 PM
Subject: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame


> Hello,
>     I am looking for a window for a '69 International,  the window is the
> swing out portion on the curb side, located to the right of  the door. The
> window is 18 5/8 x 22 1/4.
>
>     If anyone has a lead on one please contact me.
>
>     I managed to get most of the twist put in the  frame when it was 
> broken
> into. I am going to try one more time to remedy  the problem. If that 
> doesn't
> work. I may have to get one from Andy at Inland  RV.
>
>     Thanks for your time.
>
>
> Martin and Rachel  Hughey
> WBCCI 10212, Vintage A/S
> 1969 International and 1961  Bambi
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:40 -0500
From: Gerald <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] (no subject)

On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 19:45 -0400, Vspinot@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> Hello All---Looking for a tow vehicle for my newly acquired 31', 1980  
> Excella. It weighs 6200 lbs. Thinking about a F250 or F350 diesel. Some have  dual 
> tires; is this a decided advantage when towing? Thanks, Dick  Earth.

Only the 350 can be had with dual tires.

First thing you need is a towing rating more than 6200 pounds. Probably
figure at least 7500 pounds to allow for the stuff you will add to the
trailer. Maybe more.

Dual tires are mostly needed when the trailer weight on the truck is
high. That's more likely in a 5th wheel, than a normal Airstream. The
added width is a pain finding more curbs to hit and fewer passages it
can go through. The added tires add maintenance and don't quite add
their total load capability because two tires don't ever have exactly
the same diameter. Sometimes larger trucks stick with large wide singles
rather than duals because of these details.

Gerald J.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:36:14 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <HHamp5246@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> I wonder if they made Wally Byam, and his two dogs, park in canine
parking.
>
> Hunter

If they have a canine section, what about a cat section. Or if you have both
cats and dogs a dog/cat section. You deficiently need an old people section
and then and old people section with dogs or dogs and cats. Of course you
have a have a section for people with kids and then people with kids and
dogs and/or cats. What about a singles section.

Bottom line you don't need to separate people, just require that "people" be
responsible. If they are not, they are out. My 2/cents.

Don

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:47:16 EDT
From: Hugheym@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame

Tom, 
 
    It is 27 foot. 
 
    Martin 

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:03:05 EDT
From: HHamp5246@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] (no subject)

In a message dated 4/15/2005 7:45:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Vspinot@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:


> Excella. It weighs 6200 lbs. Thinking about a F250 or F350 diesel. Some 
> have  dual 
> tires; is this a decided advantage when towing? Thanks, Dick  Erath.

Hi Dick,

I have an F-250 and I love it, great puller.

Forget about the dually truck, you really only need duallies for fifth wheel 
and gooseneck trailers....to support the pin weight.

Hunter 

http://members.aol.com/ILuvBrady/summer2004.htm

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy 
shit...what a ride!"

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:04:12 EDT
From: HHamp5246@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

In a message dated 4/15/2005 8:30:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:


> 
> Bottom line you don't need to separate people, just require that "people" be
> responsible. If they are not, they are out. My 2/cents.

Mine too Don.... I think they should have a section for people who hate 
dogs...instead of segregating the dog owners.

Hunter 

http://members.aol.com/ILuvBrady/summer2004.htm

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy 
shit...what a ride!"

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:39:05 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

How fast would that section fill up?  How many sites would have to reserved? 
;)  Good idea though.

Maybe they'd also have a section for grumpy old people, too.  That should 
fill up real fast! ;))

Pretty bad when people can't get together for a week and just "put up with" 
their fellow man, er, or club member.  I hope no one keeps my dogs up!  They 
do need their sleep.

Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303

>> Bottom line you don't need to separate people, just require that "people" 
>> be
>> responsible. If they are not, they are out. My 2/cents.

> Mine too Don.... I think they should have a section for people who hate
> dogs...instead of segregating the dog owners.
>
> Hunter 

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:50:12 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

Do they have a special section for senile old farts with very old strange 
trailers and a little white dog named "Hemorid"???Those who know me know I aint 
normal
Jim Smith

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:02:16 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] cable TV vs. satellite TV

Is it at all possible to "try out" a satellite TV service without a 2-year
commitment?

I very much want to install a dish on top of our 34' Airstream, depending on
price it will either be manual or automatic (but I can aim a dish, right?
Can't be that difficult).

I'd also like to pick up a portable dish and make a stand for it for those
times you can't "see" a satellite due to the trees.

As I understand it I need to have either Dishnet or DirectTV "install" a
system - seems that today it doesn't matter how many rooms you need it's the
same cost.  Then, with the antenna on the roof or the portable antenna for the
Airstream I just take one of my boxes from the house, hook it up in the
Airstream and Voila! I've got "cable" or "satellite" TV in the Airstream.

Is this correct thinking?  Am I missing anything here?

Is it even possible to "rent" a satellite TV setup?

Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:03:55 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International

So those that know you know you are not kidding then?  ;)

Tom


From: <JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Springfield International


> Do they have a special section for senile old farts with very old strange
> trailers and a little white dog named "Hemorid"???Those who know me know I 
> aint
> normal
> Jim Smith 

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:06:59 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame

OK, then your window to the right of the door is smaller than the ones on 
the 31' Sovereigns.  I'll keep an eye out for you.

Tom

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Hugheym@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame


> Tom,
>
>    It is 27 foot.
>
>    Martin
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:29:49 -0700
From: shay80@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #218

Let's hear from chuck schmitz again re: tail lights.   the email address
given is unrecognizable by the web.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:37:24 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #218

what was the email address?

Tom


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <shay80@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:29 PM
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #218


> Let's hear from chuck schmitz again re: tail lights.   the email address
> given is unrecognizable by the web.
>
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Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:19:47 +0000
From: c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: Re: [VAL] Cargo Shifting: Stainless steel Bowen water heater door. 

Hi Gln, Chuck here. I have checked the measurements on my water heater, and it looks 
like a match.  If it still available, I sure could use it. Contact me off list if you 
like at c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net, or whatever the proper protocal is to respond.

Thanks, 
Chuck & Lynn

- -------------- Original message -------------- 

> All, 
> 
> PLEASE READ THIS WHOLE NOTE FIRST BEFORE RESPONDING. 
> 
> I have two complete Bowen water heaters. I purchased my '69 Caravel a 
> few years ago with a non-working Bowen G6A-1 water heater already in it and 
> have a G6A-2 in the garage that I recently bought on eBay. I made the 
> installed one work from the parts of the two and now want to share a spare 
> door with the List from the G6A-2. 
> 
> OK, here's the deal. If you, and I mean if YOU really need this door 
> for your own Airstream Bowen G6A-1 or -2 water heater and are the first to 
> respond AFTER YOU HAVE FIRST MEASURED YOUR HEATER and compared it to the 
> measurements I'll show below, I'll send it to you for the asking. 
> 
> I'm told that these doors are as scarce as hens teeth so it would be 
> very cool for one of you to benefit from my extra door. 
> 
> As with all my Cargo Shifting, there's no charge for it, I just ask that 
> you agree to cover the postage and at that, only after you've gotten it and 
> are happy with it. 
> 
> Here are the measurements of mine that I ask you to compare first to 
> your needs before asking for it. 
> 
> Door width = 18" 
> Door height = 14 9/16" 
> Cutout height = 5" 
> Cutout width = 7 13/16" 
> Distance of cutout from left side of door edge = 1 5/8" 
> Distance of cutout from top of door edge = 1" 
> Height of slot = 1" 
> Distance of slot from left side of door edge = 10 1/2" 
> Distance of slot from top of door edge = 1" 
> 
> The door is in pretty darned good shape with no scratching on its 
> brushed stainless steel surface. There is a very minor 1" vertical dent in 
> the metal coincident with the right hinge arm. If you have a Bowen, you'll 
> know what I mean. 
> 
> There is no pilot lighting hole in the door, it must be a design 
> predating that feature. I'm assuming that my Bowen G6A-1 water heater is 
> the original on my 1969 Caravel so this G6A-2 door might be from a slightly 
> newer heater but is identical to the one I already have. 
> 
> Good luck, 
> 
> Glyn Judson 
> 1969 Caravel #508 
> Santa Monica CA 
> 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:24:54 -0500
From: overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for '69 window frame

Greetings Martin and Rachel!

> Hello,
>      I am looking for a window for a '69 International,
the window is the  swing out portion on the curb side,
located to the right of  the door. The  window is 18 5/8 x
22 1/4.
>
>      If anyone has a lead on one please contact me.
>
> Martin and Rachel  Hughey
> WBCCI 10212, Vintage A/S
> 1969 International and 1961  Bambi
>
> -----------------------------------------------

An option might be Ace Fogdall RV in Cedar Falls, Iowa. 
They had quite a selection of Airstream window glass (other
than Corning) that they uncovered when the moved from
University Avenue to their new store near US 20.  You can
find their contact information at the following link:

http://www.acefogdallrv.com/index.html

Florence or Christy in the parts department can probably
fill you in on the availability of the needed window from
their NOS inventory that was uncovered.

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers/Computer Club #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400
VORTEC/4.10 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
Convertibel (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:36:36 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Cargo Shifting: Stainless steel Bowen water heater door. 

    Chuck,

    It's not spoken for as yet so there's no reason why you shouldn't get
it.  Send me your postal address and I'll get it into the mail Monday
morning.  Congratulations,  you've won!!

    Later,

    Glyn

    

> From: c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:19:47 +0000
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Cargo Shifting: Stainless steel Bowen water heater door.
> 
> Hi Gln, Chuck here. I have checked the measurements on my water heater, and it
> looks like a match.  If it still available, I sure could use it. Contact me
> off list if you like at c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net, or whatever the proper protocal is to
> respond.
> 
> Thanks, 
> Chuck & Lynn
> 
> -------------- Original message --------------
> 
>> All, 
>> 
>> PLEASE READ THIS WHOLE NOTE FIRST BEFORE RESPONDING.
>> 
>> I have two complete Bowen water heaters. I purchased my '69 Caravel a
>> few years ago with a non-working Bowen G6A-1 water heater already in it and
>> have a G6A-2 in the garage that I recently bought on eBay. I made the
>> installed one work from the parts of the two and now want to share a spare
>> door with the List from the G6A-2.
>> 
>> OK, here's the deal. If you, and I mean if YOU really need this door
>> for your own Airstream Bowen G6A-1 or -2 water heater and are the first to
>> respond AFTER YOU HAVE FIRST MEASURED YOUR HEATER and compared it to the
>> measurements I'll show below, I'll send it to you for the asking.
>> 
>> I'm told that these doors are as scarce as hens teeth so it would be
>> very cool for one of you to benefit from my extra door.
>> 
>> As with all my Cargo Shifting, there's no charge for it, I just ask that
>> you agree to cover the postage and at that, only after you've gotten it and
>> are happy with it.
>> 
>> Here are the measurements of mine that I ask you to compare first to
>> your needs before asking for it.
>> 
>> Door width = 18"
>> Door height = 14 9/16"
>> Cutout height = 5"
>> Cutout width = 7 13/16"
>> Distance of cutout from left side of door edge = 1 5/8"
>> Distance of cutout from top of door edge = 1"
>> Height of slot = 1"
>> Distance of slot from left side of door edge = 10 1/2"
>> Distance of slot from top of door edge = 1"
>> 
>> The door is in pretty darned good shape with no scratching on its
>> brushed stainless steel surface. There is a very minor 1" vertical dent in
>> the metal coincident with the right hinge arm. If you have a Bowen, you'll
>> know what I mean.
>> 
>> There is no pilot lighting hole in the door, it must be a design
>> predating that feature. I'm assuming that my Bowen G6A-1 water heater is
>> the original on my 1969 Caravel so this G6A-2 door might be from a slightly
>> newer heater but is identical to the one I already have.
>> 
>> Good luck, 
>> 
>> Glyn Judson 
>> 1969 Caravel #508
>> Santa Monica CA 
>> 
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