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VAL Digest Monday, April 4 2005 Volume 02 : Number 207
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Topics in Today's Digest:
[VAL] was water tank, now rollovers
Re: [VAL] was water tank, now rollovers
Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
Re: [VAL] was water tank, now rollovers
Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
Re: [VAL] Gauge or thickness of 1972 airstream globetrotter aluminum skin
Re: [VAL] AGM batteries
[VAL] Description Needed
Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 01:43:30 -0500
From: John Dorsey <jrdorsey@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] was water tank, now rollovers
Wow, now you give me pause to think. Having recently rolled my vintage
tow vehicle I was looking at newer ones for the anti-lock brakes (with
which I'm pretty sure I would not have skidded into the ditch).
With the information about weakness in these new trucks maybe I will
see about fixing the old one. Hmmm......maybe if I used axles and the
brake controller from a new truck I could retrofit anti-locks, I want a
4x4 anyway :-)
Before and after pictures:
http://www.strato.net/~jrdorsey/truck/
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Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 08:44:47 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] was water tank, now rollovers
John, So tragic ! I was nearly in tears. I don't know why
damage to a lovely relic like that truck does that,
theoretically I suppose I should feel badly about the pig...
I hope you can summon up the energy to fix it, especailly
after all the work you did bringing its guts up to standard.
I love my great big noisy truck, but I wish I had the
mecanic skills to have a vintage puller.
Daisy
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:49:33 -0500
From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
Glyn,
The change was made on the 1969 model year. Rounded corners from
square corners. Not sure how far you can go up in model years. My
quess would be late 70's early 80's when the next model/body change
happened.
Paul Waddell
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Glyn Judson" <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
> Chuck,
>
> Thanks for the kind offer but I think the 1969's changed from what was
> previously used. As an example, I'm told that the switch is on the
bracket
> mid way between the fan motor and the curbside vent side, not in a box in
> the corner as I've seen in earlier models of mid '60's to '68.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glyn
>
> > From: c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> > Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 02:24:35 +0000
> > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
> >
> > I think I have an extra bracket and fan, not sure how well it works, but
it
> > was off our 1965 Overlander. If you still need it and you think it's the
same,
> > let me know and I will dig it out.
> > Regards,
> > Chuck & Lynn
> > 1965 Overlander
> > 1960 Tradewind
> > 1960 Traveler
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >
> >> All,
> >>
> >> every once in a while I post to the list the parts I still need to
> >> complete the interior restoration of our '69 Caravel in the hope
someone
> >> reading will have the parts I need and be willing to sell them.
> >>
> >> So this is what I still need:
> >>
> >> 1. Six cream colored, cone shaped, plastic window rod lift ends which
> >> seem to be peculiar to the 1969 Airstream only.
> >>
> >> 2. Bracket and motor for the overhead vent fan in the roof. I don't
> >> need the vent assembly, just the bracket, motor and fan. I can even
live
> >> with just the bracket if someone had just that as Ewe kindly gave me a
motor
> >> and fan.
> >>
> >> 3. Seven or eight feet of gold anodized aluminum I-beam curtain track
> >> and five gold brackets for under the front window.
> >>
> >> 4. Complete vintage Zip Dee awning eight feet or longer for the 1969
> >> model period (old design ends).
> >>
> >> Any help or even leads would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Glyn Judson
> >> 1969 Caravel #508
> >> Santa Monica CA
> >> Home: 310.453.1892
> >>
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 05:49:27 -0700
From: Royce <rkkessler@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] was water tank, now rollovers
John,
Sorry to hear about your panel truck. You are very fortunate to not been hurt
bad. My experience with anti-locks is not good. Two bad experiences that
almost caused loss of control due solely to the anti-locks and both on Ford
trucks, both company supplied vehicles. On those vehicles if you panicked
and tromped on the brakes hard the front wheels would start to alternately
hop off the pavement, very disturbing. On the other hand I believe you can
learn how to properly brake a vehicle without resorting to anti-lock or
pumping the brakes. My personal daily driver for over 24 years was a '55'
first series Chevy, and I recommend going to the trouble of redoing your
panel truck yet again. Nothing else in front of the AS will look as
good. :-)
RK
www.spearfishcreek.com
On Saturday 02 April 2005 11:43 pm, John Dorsey wrote:
> Wow, now you give me pause to think. Having recently rolled my vintage
> tow vehicle I was looking at newer ones for the anti-lock brakes (with
> which I'm pretty sure I would not have skidded into the ditch).
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Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 07:18:19 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
Paul,
thanks, that gives me hope that I can find the proper bracket assembly
on models later than mine. I'll see what I can find out.
Anyone with '70 on up models have this same curbside to streetside fan
bracket with switch included?
Thanks to all.......again,
Glyn
> From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:49:33 -0500
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
>
> Glyn,
>
> The change was made on the 1969 model year. Rounded corners from
> square corners. Not sure how far you can go up in model years. My
> quess would be late 70's early 80's when the next model/body change
> happened.
>
> Paul Waddell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glyn Judson" <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
>
>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> Thanks for the kind offer but I think the 1969's changed from what was
>> previously used. As an example, I'm told that the switch is on the
> bracket
>> mid way between the fan motor and the curbside vent side, not in a box in
>> the corner as I've seen in earlier models of mid '60's to '68.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Glyn
>>
>>> From: c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net
>>> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>>> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 02:24:35 +0000
>>> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>>> Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
>>>
>>> I think I have an extra bracket and fan, not sure how well it works, but
> it
>>> was off our 1965 Overlander. If you still need it and you think it's the
> same,
>>> let me know and I will dig it out.
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck & Lynn
>>> 1965 Overlander
>>> 1960 Tradewind
>>> 1960 Traveler
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> every once in a while I post to the list the parts I still need to
>>>> complete the interior restoration of our '69 Caravel in the hope
> someone
>>>> reading will have the parts I need and be willing to sell them.
>>>>
>>>> So this is what I still need:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Six cream colored, cone shaped, plastic window rod lift ends which
>>>> seem to be peculiar to the 1969 Airstream only.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Bracket and motor for the overhead vent fan in the roof. I don't
>>>> need the vent assembly, just the bracket, motor and fan. I can even
> live
>>>> with just the bracket if someone had just that as Ewe kindly gave me a
> motor
>>>> and fan.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Seven or eight feet of gold anodized aluminum I-beam curtain track
>>>> and five gold brackets for under the front window.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Complete vintage Zip Dee awning eight feet or longer for the 1969
>>>> model period (old design ends).
>>>>
>>>> Any help or even leads would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Glyn Judson
>>>> 1969 Caravel #508
>>>> Santa Monica CA
>>>> Home: 310.453.1892
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> This e-mail list is not sponsored by or affiliated in any way with
> Airstream
>>>> Inc, Thor Inc, the VAC, or the WBCCI.
>>>>
>>>> When replying to a message. please delete all unnecessary original text
>>>>
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>>>
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> Airstream
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>>
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:00:42 -0500
From: Dean L <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
We have a 70 and I took out the old fans years ago and replaced with
the FanTastic fan.
As I remember the bracket and fan was nothing special. Just make a tin
or strap iron bracket and attach a cheep 12 VDC automotive type fan.
The type used to keep truck windows fog free.
Don't make it into something it never was. It was just a simple fan.
Dean
On Apr 3, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Glyn Judson wrote:
> Paul,
>
> thanks, that gives me hope that I can find the proper bracket
> assembly
> on models later than mine. I'll see what I can find out.
>
> Anyone with '70 on up models have this same curbside to streetside
> fan
> bracket with switch included?
>
> Thanks to all.......again,
>
> Glyn
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Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 08:04:17 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
Dean,
Thank you for the suggestion but I'd like to install the original
bracket if I can find one for the sake of authenticity.
You wouldn't happen to have one of those brackets still kicking around
would you?
Thanks,
Glyn
> From: Dean L <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:00:42 -0500
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
>
> We have a 70 and I took out the old fans years ago and replaced with
> the FanTastic fan.
> As I remember the bracket and fan was nothing special. Just make a tin
> or strap iron bracket and attach a cheep 12 VDC automotive type fan.
> The type used to keep truck windows fog free.
> Don't make it into something it never was. It was just a simple fan.
> Dean
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Glyn Judson wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> thanks, that gives me hope that I can find the proper bracket
>> assembly
>> on models later than mine. I'll see what I can find out.
>>
>> Anyone with '70 on up models have this same curbside to streetside
>> fan
>> bracket with switch included?
>>
>> Thanks to all.......again,
>>
>> Glyn
>
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Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:36:08 -0500
From: root <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Gauge or thickness of 1972 airstream globetrotter aluminum skin
A simple test of heat treat on 2024 aluminum. Try to make a sharp bend
with a pair of pliers or a vice. 2024-0 may bend. Any of those heat
treated and aged will break in the bend. Aged 2024-0 may break just from
age.
Gerald J.
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:16:01 -0700
From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] AGM batteries
Tom-
I have positive hooked to positive and negative to negative, which
retains the 12V supply, but at twice the capacity. Yes, this is a
parallel circuit. Sorry for the brain gas.
Tom Wrote: "I'd bet yours are hooked up in "parallel" rather than
*series*. Correct?
Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303"
Chris Koehn
1979 31' Int'l Sovereign
<www.koehnjourney.blogspot.com>
On Lake Mead tonight
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:19:33 EDT
From: ABLUTIONS@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Description Needed
In order to buy curtain and shower curtain clips, I need to know what I am
looking for/at.... does anyone have a digital photo of these or a couple of
extras that I would be more than happy to purchase ? Have my fabric but am
stuck ! No one around here has any idea what to sell me & I can't really tell
them ! The clips on the present curtains are not original & I really would
like them to be as close as possible.
In His Grip,
Anne & Ronnie
'62 Globe Trotter
'13 Auto Motoring Tent
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:07:25 -0500
From: Dean L <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Looking for parts....again.
On Apr 3, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Glyn Judson wrote:
> Dean,
>
> Thank you for the suggestion but I'd like to install the original
> bracket if I can find one for the sake of authenticity.
>
> You wouldn't happen to have one of those brackets still kicking
> around
> would you?
>
> Sorry That was changed up at Bismark ND and is long gone by now..
Dean
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