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VAL Digest         Tuesday, September 28 2004         Volume 02 : Number 020




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] 65 Caravel Gray Water Tank
[VAL] Caulking guns....
[VAL] RE: 56 Caravanner Woodwork
[VAL] RE: seam sealing
Re: [VAL] Caulking guns....
Re: [VAL] Caulking guns some more.
RE: [VAL] Caulking guns....
[VAL] Re: Gaucho modification
Re: [VAL] Re: Gaucho modification
Re: [VAL] 65 Caravel Gray Water Tank
Re: [VAL] 49 Liner

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:16:42 EDT
From: MaryDotson@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] 65 Caravel Gray Water Tank

There was an article in last summer's Vintage Advantage magazine (the VAC  
magazine) by Stuart Natoff about the grey tank he built for his 60-something  
Bambi.  I've seen his tank--and it doesn't hang low much at all.   However--as 
you will read in the article, it was a homebuild (but I'd say, a  pretty good 
one).
 
Mary Dotson
'61 Safari-9026
 
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:02:44 -0400
From: "Pete Gutillo"  <pete_gutillo@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] 65 Caravel Gray Water  Tank

Has anyone had experience with installing a Gray water Tank in a 65  Caravel 
or
similar model. We are in the process installing a complete new  toilet system
including a new Black Water Tank and would like to consider a  gray water tank
if there is room under the floor. Does anybody know if  there's any 
information
in the Achieves? about this?

Pete  Gutillo
65 Caravel

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:39:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: BC <Bill.Costa@xxxxxxxxxx.unh.edu>
Subject: [VAL] Caulking guns....

     Dr. J wrote...

> There is also a air hose driven caulking gun that doesn't require
> squeezing, but it costs more than $15 or 20 the last I looked.

     Aaron followed up with...

> Another alternative, though pricey is a battery powered caulk gun from
> Milwaukee or AEG same gun different colors.

     Anybody know if either type, air or electric, automatically back
     off on the pressure when you release the trigger?  Every manual
     one I've ever used, including the 'skeleton' style, have to be
     manually released or the tub will keep oozing after running a
     bead.  It's annoying when you forget and then have to clean the
     tip before running the next bead.

                                                         ...BC
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:35:19 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] RE: 56 Caravanner Woodwork

3/8" Birch Plywood (Cabinet grade), and birch 3/4" stock, finished with
only lacquer will match the original materials just fine.  There will be
an initial time period when the wood will look lighter until UV darkens
the lacquer (about 1 year), and even longer for the wood to develop that
50 year old patina/color, but luckily that is not too noticeable to the
average person.  Where a repair or new piece will be next to an older
section and be noticeable, you can use an aniline wood dye (raw sienna)
to pre-age the wood color almost perfectly.  I use the alcohol base
variety - doesn't raise the grain. I get it from
http://www.liberonsupply.com/liberon.html, but is also available from
local woodworking stores.

I get my wood from a local lumber yard that carries a good line of wood
species (Southern Lumber, San Jose).

Matching the cabinetry will pay off in the long run, nothing stands out
quite as bad, or affects resale value as poor woodwork will.

Best of luck,
RJ
VintageAirstream.com


> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:32:03 -0500
> From: "Casey McDonough" <cmcdonough1@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> Subject: [VAL] RE: VAL Digest V2 #15
>
> I'm restoring a 56 Caravanner and need to replace some of the
> woodwork. It
> is mostly all birch and it is stained natural (I think)  I'm
> wondering if
> anyone out there has replaced some pieces of wood and got
> things to match?
> Also, it looks like it was shellacked and maybe that made
> things darker.
> I'm using WATCO Danish oil - golden oak color.
> Thanks,
> Casey McDonough

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:43:52 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] RE: seam sealing

I fill up little syringes, (woodworking supply, used for glues), and
throw them and the opened tube into the freezer.  Takes about 30 mins to
defrost to use, and then throw them back in.. That way I've never lost
or wasted any sealant.

Silicone is almost impossible to remove from bare aluminum, that's the
biggest issue.  I curse the existence of long dead previous owners
whenever I have to try and remove their attempts to chase leaks...  :>)

Later,
RJ
'65 Caravel
'56 Flying Cloud

Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:59:02 -0700
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: seam sealing

Just a note regarding Vulkem. Does it ever come in small tubes - say,
toothpaste size? Those big caulking gun size ones are horrible to use -
I hate caulking guns anyway. They are very irksome to work with - you
need a gorilla to squeeze a steady bead with them. I got so aggravated
with the gun that I bought some of GE's new aluminum SILICONE sealer
stuff and despite all advice to the contrary on this board, have been
using it in lieu of Vulkem. Guess I'll be pillared and kicked out into
the cold after this confession, but the stuff works great - it is
specifically made to be used on aluminum, stays pliable forever, has a
wide temp range and comes in a great little tube with a neato
applicator tip. Long live GE!
Jo Ann

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:00:03 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Caulking guns....

I've not bought or tested any of the power caulking guns. Right now I'm 
caulking where it won't ever be seen again and its already grubby from 
being close to the ground, so a snotty nose on the tube isn't a problem.

Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:15:34 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Caulking guns some more.

I did a google search on the word and phrase: power "caulking gun"
There were 11,800 hits. And several of the first 20 seemed to have 
reviews or comments as well as sources. There seem to be many makes, 
some useful, some not.

Gerald J.

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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:41:16 -0700
From: "Tim S." <safari_tim@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Caulking guns....

I picked up a manual caulking gun at the local hardware store that was
labeled 'no drip'.

It has a little lever that goes across the release bar that puts slight
pressure on it to release the pressure on the tube.  Works great.

It also had a built in tip cutter and a metal piece that breaks the seal on
new tubes.

Price was around $18.

- -Tim
www.ldservice.com/tim/tim



     Anybody know if either type, air or electric, automatically back
     off on the pressure when you release the trigger?  Every manual
     one I've ever used, including the 'skeleton' style, have to be
     manually released or the tub will keep oozing after running a
     bead.  It's annoying when you forget and then have to clean the
     tip before running the next bead.

                                                         ...BC
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:38:21 -0500
From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: Gaucho modification

Joe et al:
I've sent out pix to those who have asked. If you all think it's 
warranted I could post them somewhere on the web.

Regards,

Chris K
#8638
1979 Int'l Sovereign Land Yacht
currently holed up near Aylmer, Ontario

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:28:34 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Gaucho modification

    Chris,

    I for one thank you.  They were instructive.

    Glyn Judson

> From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:38:21 -0500
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] Re: Gaucho modification
> 
> Joe et al:
> I've sent out pix to those who have asked. If you all think it's
> warranted I could post them somewhere on the web.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chris K
> #8638
> 1979 Int'l Sovereign Land Yacht
> currently holed up near Aylmer, Ontario
> 
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:21:30 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 65 Caravel Gray Water Tank

A thought on how to have a grey water tank.  Under most sinks there is 
a discharge line, in this case probably going to outside.  Try 
placing/fitting a five (or so) gallon plastic water container and 
routing the  discharge line into the container.  When filled simply 
remove and dump in a convenient sewer outlet, toilet, or in the bushes. 
  You can put one of those double water hose connectors (with turn off 
valves) on new discharge lines so you can route the water to the 
outside when appropriate or to the inside container.

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:21:05 +0000
From: c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: Re: [VAL] 49 Liner

Hi Dallas, chuck & Lynn here.  Well, what happened, did you buy the 53? Anything else 
new?  It was great talking to you, boy do I envy you. what a great bunch of trailers you 
have.  The polishing is going rather slow on the 49, I don't think it was ever polished, 
so 55 years of oxidation.  Whew!!!!!!.  Keep it touch, today was my granddaughters 1st 
birthday, man is she cute.  
Well, hope to hear from you soon, 
Regards,
Chuck & Lynn

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> Chuck, I have a question for you...If you had a chance to buy a 1953 
> 17'6" Airstream with a good interior and original,,,,plus a pretty good 
> exterior........Would you buy it for 5000..?..I think its worth close to 
> 10000 but I am not too brave today. would .appreciate your opinion . 
> Dallas. The 17' 6" trailer is smallest one they made that year... 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:56 PM 
> Subject: [VAL] 49 Liner 
> 
> 
> > My wife and I are aquiring a 1949 Airstream Liner. We have checked out 
> the photos on the Vintage Airstream archive picture page, but need more 
> interior info and pictures for restoration. If anyone out there has a 49 
> Liner and could sare some interior pictures of their units, it would be of 
> grat help to us. 
> > Thanks in Advance, 
> > Chuck & Lynn 
> > 1965 Overlander 
> > 1960 Tradewind Int. 
> > 1949 Liner 
> > 
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