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VAL Digest           Tuesday, March 22 2005           Volume 02 : Number 194




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] thanks
RE: [VAL] Is this another way of accessing the frame for repairs?
Re: [VAL] 40 Amp Fuse
RE: [VAL] 40 Amp Fuse
[VAL] fresh water pump
Re: [VAL] fresh water pump
Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement
Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement
[VAL] Battery question
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #193
[VAL] New Member/1965 Airstream Overlander
[VAL] 12 Volt Flourescent Fixtures?
Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement
Re: [VAL] New Member/1965 Airstream Overlander
RE: [VAL] fresh water pump
Re: [VAL] New Member/1965 Airstream Overlander
[VAL] battery box
[VAL] things to "see"
Re: [VAL] battery box
Re: [VAL] fresh water pump
Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement
Re: [VAL] Battery question
Re: [VAL] Battery question
Re: [VAL] fresh water pump
[VAL] Dan C's LP system?
Re: [VAL] fresh water pump
Re: [VAL] 12 Volt Flourescent Fixtures?

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:56:23 -0700
From: "JP Polly" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] thanks

to the list master, Tom -  thanks for your returning the list to normal.
Polly in CO

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:18:12 -0700
From: "Bob Hightower" <rhightower@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Is this another way of accessing the frame for repairs?

If you're referring to the patches in the photo on the lower right, they are the
'elephant ears' that patch the frame droop repair work. You see those on quite a
few 70's rigs.

Bob Hightower
WBCCI 11365


> This Airstream appears to have had work on it's rear panel?  
> I've not seen this type of "access" patch.
> Is it what I think it is - or maybe some other type of 
> repair? Thanks. RL 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50063&item=453
7362130&rd=1

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:40:08 -0700
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 40 Amp Fuse

Rick,

Several of the larger RV industry parts wholesalers still carry the 
larger AGU size fuses. Because they are not used these days, many  RV 
parts folks don't realize it. One example is: 
https://www.ntpdistribution.com/Via/index.jsp?RefAgent=R0014420  Once 
there go to page 2 (lower left corner) and look for PN 19-0036. They are 
sold in a two pack.
This online catalog is put up by Northwest Trailer Parts. Any RV parts 
store that does business with them can get the fuses.

Charlie

Rick Langer wrote:

>Sometime last year I blew what I think is the main fuse on my unit by
>contacting the battery cables with the battery frame.  The fuse is the old
>style glass fuse with the filiment visible inside the tube.  It was a 40 amp
>fuse.
>
>My problem is I can't find a replacement. The biggest fuse I can find is a
>30 amp which blows when there is a heavy load running through it.  Every
>place I go (auto and camping stores) they say 30 amp is the biggest they
>carry.
>
>Does anyone know where I might get this 40 amp fuse?  BTW, the one that blew
>looked very old, like maybe it was original.
>
>Thanks,
>Rick Langer
>'66 GT #3847
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:42:44 -0700
From: "Forrest McClure" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: RE: [VAL] 40 Amp Fuse

Charlie/Betty,

I believe there is some confusion over what type of glass tube fuse will
work in the original '66 fuse block. I think the AGU size you mention is
considerably larger in diameter than the AGP size and will not fit into the
fuse block clip. AGU sizes are still quite available, but it is the AGP size
that '66 Airstreams were fitted for, and they are hard to find.

Forrest

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:55:23 -0600
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] fresh water pump

Need to replace my fresh water pump.  Any suggestions?
Dan
14148

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:01:37 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] fresh water pump

Shur-Flo


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Subject: [VAL] fresh water pump


> Need to replace my fresh water pump.  Any suggestions?
> Dan
> 14148
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:01:24 -0600
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement

Maybe some day I will be able to answer questions, but for now......
I need to replace the stool in my bathroom on my 69 caravel.  It is a short 
one as it sets high upon the blackwater tank.  Tank is above the floor.  Do 
you have a suggestion as to brand, type?
Dan
14148

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:04:21 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement

Dan,

The Thetford Auqua lineup makes china bowl toilets that would meet your 
approval I'm sure.

Tom


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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement


> Maybe some day I will be able to answer questions, but for now......
> I need to replace the stool in my bathroom on my 69 caravel.  It is a 
> short one as it sets high upon the blackwater tank.  Tank is above the 
> floor.  Do you have a suggestion as to brand, type?
> Dan
> 14148
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:04:34 -0600
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Battery question

What battery do you suggest.  I  need maybe 3  12 volt or maybe 6  6volts. 
Should I be looking at the 12 volt or the 6 volt?  Need additional storage 
due to unable to use lp.
Dan
14148

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:27:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Tony Grange <tgrange73@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #193

VAL Digest <valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
Does anyone know where I might get this 40 amp fuse? BTW, the one that blew
looked very old, like maybe it was original.

To Rick,

Automotive stereo stores, the one that sell those ear shattering sound systems 
for Hondas, will often have large size glass fuses At least that is where I got 
some 50 amp fuses to have on hand as spares.

Tony Grange, WBCCI 4935

Leamington, Ontario

 


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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:22:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike <highcotton@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] New Member/1965 Airstream Overlander

Hey folks, I am Mike from Greenville, Mississippi.  I am new to Airstreaming and 
newer to this group.  I signed up a few days ago and have been reading the posts 
to try to glean whatever knowledge is there.  I got interested in Airstreams about 
6 months ago when I read an article in an interior design magazine about someone 
who bought one as a guest house.  After seeing the pictures, I knew I would own 
one---and soon.  After thoroughly researching through every source I could find, 
I knew that I wanted a vintage coach.  I lucked up on a 1965 Overlander International 
twin, which was all original except for the curtains and gaucho covering. I bought 
it and had a buddy tow it the 150 miles to my home where it is now occupying a 
prominent area of my back yard.  
There was no owners manual when I purchased it.  I am learning a lot about the coach, 
but there seems to be little direction that I can find on basic info.  I haven't 
done anything to it yet because I don't want to mess things up.  I am almost certain 
that I would never go boondocking... being the creature of comfort that I am, if I 
were to travel with it I would want to stay in a park with full hookups.  I do want 
it to be roadworthy, however.  I am about to have hookups for it installed in my 
back yard so that the coach can be enjoyed when I have outside parties.  Is there 
a direction someone can give me to tell me how to do the water/plumbing/electrical 
hookups?  I feel quite stupid asking for this info, but hey, gotta start somewhere, 
right?
I have really enjoyed this service and I hope to meet some of the people on here.  
Mike
Greenville, MS
Is there any place that I can be directed 

		
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:26:43 -0500
From: "Dave Lowrey" <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] 12 Volt Flourescent Fixtures?

A while back I stumbled on a web site that had a LOT of 12 volt fluorescent
light fixtures for RVs.

 

Of course, now that I am ready to buy some, I cant find the site. Googling
produces hits for just about every RV dealer on the web, so that isn't very
helpful.

 

I am looking to replace the fixtures over the twin beds on my '77 Sovereign.

 

Any pointers?

 

Thanks!

 

Dave

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:07:08 -0600
From: overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement

Greetings Dan!

> Maybe some day I will be able to answer questions, but for
now...... I need to replace the stool in my bathroom on my
69 caravel.  It is a short  one as it sets high upon the 
blackwater tank.  Tank is above the floor.  Do  you have a
suggestion as to brand, type? Dan
> 14148
- -------------------------------------------------
I had a similar situation with my '78 Minuet 6.0 Metre.  The
Thetford Bravura Low Profile was only slightly taller than
the original and fit the available space very well.  You can
find the specifications at:

http://www.thetford.com/permanent_bravura.cfm

Good luck with your search!

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers/Computer Club #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400
VORTEC/4.10 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:14:20 -0800
From: "Mark" <mark@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] New Member/1965 Airstream Overlander

Hello Mike...welcome to our world!

I think you've done a very good thing, and I have a hunch, from the sound of
your post, your 'new' Airstream will be the better for it too.  If you keep
it roadworthy, and take it out at least once a year, AND use it interimly
for a guest house and party retreat (assuming you don't have really wild
parties), you'll ensure that all your amenities and appliances will be kept
alive and active.  You and your new rig will have the best of both  worlds!

Congratulations!

As far as your full-hookup site goes, if you plan to hire the work done, you
might do well to find a good, licensed, water-feature landscaper.  They're
used to running high amp circuits and water lines, and servicing your site
would be a snap for anyone worth his biscuits.  While he's digging the
trench, you might have him do a little extra to accomodate a sewer/septic
tank line (might as well do it right, eh?).

If you have room, you might want to think about providing enough of a flat
spot to be able to move the rig fore and aft a bit, every once in a while
(no need to disconnect anything), to keep the tires from getting flat spots.

I've recently read there is real merit to using nitrogen in your tires,
instead of atmosphere.  One of the many claims is the loss of pressure is
much less than with regular air...completely dry too, and prevents oxidation
inside the tire.  I think you'd be wise to devise tire covers, too, to keep
the UV off the sidewalls (usually a bigger tire problem than worn out
tread).

You'll probably want to use jacks or blocks under the frame for stability
and a more solid feel when walking inside.  They'll help support the frame
as it sits in the yard, too, but DO BE CAREFUL to check every now and then
to be sure your tires havent lost pressure and put a lot of extra weight on
the jacks...just crank down the front a bit, then bring it back up to snug.
If it suddenly takes a lot more cranks to lift the frame off of the jack in
the back...check your tire pressures!

I hope some of that is useful to you and, once again...welcome aboard!


All the best,

Mark in Modesto
1962 Tradewind

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:22:59 -0500
From: "eemerick" <eemerick@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] fresh water pump

I agree!
Ed WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign (Shur-Flo)
59 Traveler (Shur-Flo too!)

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Subject: Re: [VAL] fresh water pump


Shur-Flo


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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: [VAL] fresh water pump


> Need to replace my fresh water pump.  Any suggestions?
> Dan
> 14148
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:22:36 -0600
From: overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] New Member/1965 Airstream Overlander

Greetings Mike!

Welcome to the world of Vintage Overlander ownership!

> Hey folks, I am Mike from Greenville, Mississippi. . . . .
  I lucked up on a 1965 Overlander International twin,
which was all original except for the curtains and gaucho
covering. I bought it and had a buddy tow it the 150 miles
to my home where it is now occupying a prominent area of my
back yard.   There was no owners manual when I purchased it.
 I am learning a lot about the coach, but there seems to be
little direction that I can find on basic info.  I haven't
done anything to it yet because I don't want to mess things
up.  I am almost certain that I would never go
boondocking... being the creature of comfort that I am, if I
were to travel with it I would want to stay in a park with
full hookups.  I do want it to be roadworthy, however.  I am
about to have hookups for it installed in my back yard so
that the coach can be enjoyed when I have outside parties. 
Is there a direction someone can give me to tell me how to
do the water/plumbing/electrical hookups?  I feel quite
stupid asking for this info, but hey, gotta start somewhere,
right? I have really enjoyed this service and I hope to meet
some of the people on here.   Mike
> Greenville, MS
> Is there any place that I can be directed

> ---------------------------------

A good starting place would be to acquire a copy of the
original owners' manual.  While not as comprehsensive as
those published today (1964 was the first year for the
owners' manual), it would be helpful in becoming acquainted
with the systems in your coach.  Photo copies are available
through Secretarial Services - - you can learn the details
of contacting them through the link below:

http://www.airstream.net/FAQ/FAQ_3.html#Manuals

Two generic books that help with the basics of RVing would
include:

RV Repair and Maintenance Manual by Bob Livingston:


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0934798702/qid=1111461446/sr=8-3/ref=
pd_csp_3/102-4943441-7221702?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

The RV Handbook:  Essential How-To Guide for the RV Owner:


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0934798664/qid=1111461446/sr=8-1/ref=
pd_csp_1/102-4943441-7221702?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Good luck with your Overlander!

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers/Computer Club #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400
VORTEC/4.10 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:00:54 -0800 (PST)
From: robert brandt <rdbrandt_1930@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] battery box

We also have a 69 Caravel and I have no idea where I
would locate a 48 in. box.  Our battery power is one
12 volt deep cycle which has gone 5 days for us, of
course that is careful use.

Are you using 6 volt motorcycle batteries?

Rob and Carole
San Diego
69 Caravel
02 Tundra (has not towed yet)


		
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:16:09 -0600
From: "Dan Greenlee" <dangreenlee@ev1.net>
Subject: [VAL] things to "see"

<bodacious SNIPPAGE>
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Ebay Airstream --- things to "see" in the pictures
     This Airstream "seems to be" in need of new axles at about $800.00
each.  The
angle of the picture taken from the side might be deceiving but it appears
to
me that the wheel well cutouts are riding mighty low over the outline of the
tires themselves.

I've read that a good gauge of whether a trailer needs new axles can be done
when simply viewing a picture is to "see" how low the trailer the wheel well
is over the tire wheels, not the tire but the wheels themselves.
<SNIP>

Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303
<MO SNIPPAGE>

 More helpful info..How low is too low?
  '66 Overlander.
   DanG,

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:51:45 -0600
From: Daniel Childress <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] battery box

Rob
   We are using the batteries for everything.  No lp. Batteries will 
power refer, lights, entire
Caravel.
   We are also looking at a Tundra as a tow vehicle.  Presently using a Sienna.
Dan

>We also have a 69 Caravel and I have no idea where I
>would locate a 48 in. box.  Our battery power is one
>12 volt deep cycle which has gone 5 days for us, of
>course that is careful use.
>
>Are you using 6 volt motorcycle batteries?
>
>Rob and Carole
>San Diego
>69 Caravel
>02 Tundra (has not towed yet)
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:53:21 -0800
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] fresh water pump

Dan,
If your fresh water pump is a PAR belt driven model, then it might well 
be worth to rebuild it.
Wets Marine offers rebuild kits by pump number, as these pumps were 
widely used in Marine applications for their reliability and quiet 
operation.
Rebuilding takes all but 30 minutes, and you end up with a much more 
valuable product than most of the rotary replacement pumps.
My old PAR pump even has a dampening chamber built in to prevent water 
hammer noises with the pump running.
If your trailer does not have one of these pumps, then the Shur-Flo 
that was recommended certainly is your best choice, in my opinion.

Uwe Salwender
Orange CA


> Need to replace my fresh water pump.  Any suggestions?
> Dan
> 14148

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:55:27 -0800
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Black & Gray Water Tank Replacement

Dan,
I purchased a Sea Land Traveller lite low profile toilet from 
www.rvpartsoutlet.com, when my Tradewind's old plastic toilet became 
too much of an eyesore.
It is an excellent product that I can highly recommend. We've use dit 
for 2 seasons now, and it still looks like brand new.
Cheers,
Uwe




On Monday, March 21, 2005, at 04:01  PM, Dan Childress wrote:

> Maybe some day I will be able to answer questions, but for now......
> I need to replace the stool in my bathroom on my 69 caravel.  It is a 
> short one as it sets high upon the blackwater tank.  Tank is above the 
> floor.  Do you have a suggestion as to brand, type?
> Dan

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:58:24 -0800
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Battery question

On Monday, March 21, 2005, at 04:04  PM, Dan Childress wrote:

> What battery do you suggest.  I  need maybe 3  12 volt or maybe 6  
> 6volts. Should I be looking at the 12 volt or the 6 volt?  Need 
> additional storage due to unable to use lp.
> Dan
> 14148
>

Dan,
Remember that 6V batteries will only do you any good if they're paired. 
( or in your case, paired in multiples of 2 )
So, if you have 12V batteries, and one of them has a problem, then you 
still have the second or third 12V battery to get you by.
If one of the 6V batteries goes, then you have no more use out of the 
second one in that particular pair, even if it's still good.
Just a thought for you to consider..

Uwe

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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:00:42 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Battery question

I personally use the Optima batteries, if you are asking me.  Two of the 
deep cycle blue colored Optima batteries are installed in our Airstream and 
I really that brand due to the "all glass mat" or AGM construction.  The AGM 
batteries can be mounted upside down and they still won't "leak" because of 
the all glass mat design.  These deep cycle ones seem to hold a charge for a 
very, very long time.

However, the AGM design of the Optimas isn't inexpensive as two batteries 
cost me just over $300.00.  That said, they do have a no questions asked 
3-year over the counter exchange and they are warranted for 5 or 6 years.  I 
won't go back to the wet cell batteries again, not for the RV and I might 
put in Optima AGM batteries in our tow vehicle whenever that time comes; I 
like them that much.

Tom Meeker

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To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: [VAL] Battery question


> What battery do you suggest.  I  need maybe 3  12 volt or maybe 6  6volts. 
> Should I be looking at the 12 volt or the 6 volt?  Need additional storage 
> due to unable to use lp.
> Dan
> 14148
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:01:18 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] fresh water pump

    Uwe and all,

    I might also add that you can get used PAR pumps of the type you
describe almost by the bushel basket at Minney's Ships Chandlery in Newport
Beach CA 949.548.4192, not to far from you.

    I have one on our sailboat that I use as a bilge pump (with liberal
screening and filtering) that I bought there for as I recall, about $25.00.
In addition,  I have one in our '69 Caravel for the fresh water pressure
system.   I also have a few spares hear at the house that I also bought
there just on spec.

    Glyn 

> From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:53:21 -0800
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] fresh water pump
> 
> Dan,
> If your fresh water pump is a PAR belt driven model, then it might well
> be worth to rebuild it.
> Wets Marine offers rebuild kits by pump number, as these pumps were
> widely used in Marine applications for their reliability and quiet
> operation.
> Rebuilding takes all but 30 minutes, and you end up with a much more
> valuable product than most of the rotary replacement pumps.
> My old PAR pump even has a dampening chamber built in to prevent water
> hammer noises with the pump running.
> If your trailer does not have one of these pumps, then the Shur-Flo
> that was recommended certainly is your best choice, in my opinion.
> 
> Uwe Salwender
> Orange CA
> 
> 
>> Need to replace my fresh water pump.  Any suggestions?
>> Dan
>> 14148
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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:03:11 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Dan C's LP system?

Dan,

What happened to the LP system?

Tom Meeker


From: "Daniel Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>


> Rob
>   We are using the batteries for everything.  No lp. Batteries will power 
> refer, lights, entire
> Caravel.
>   We are also looking at a Tundra as a tow vehicle.  Presently using a 
> Sienna.
> Dan
>
>>We also have a 69 Caravel and I have no idea where I
>>would locate a 48 in. box.  Our battery power is one
>>12 volt deep cycle which has gone 5 days for us, of
>>course that is careful use.
>>
>>Are you using 6 volt motorcycle batteries?
>>
>>Rob and Carole
>>San Diego
>>69 Caravel
>>02 Tundra (has not towed yet) 

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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:05:50 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] fresh water pump

http://yachtworld.com/byp/categories/SailingRacing/SailingSailboatEquipment_ALL.html.uk


Loads of ship suppliers; new and used I presume.

Tom Meeker


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From: "Glyn Judson" <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [VAL] fresh water pump


>    Uwe and all,
>
>    I might also add that you can get used PAR pumps of the type you
> describe almost by the bushel basket at Minney's Ships Chandlery in 
> Newport
> Beach CA 949.548.4192, not to far from you.
>
>    I have one on our sailboat that I use as a bilge pump (with liberal
> screening and filtering) that I bought there for as I recall, about 
> $25.00.
> In addition,  I have one in our '69 Caravel for the fresh water pressure
> system.   I also have a few spares hear at the house that I also bought
> there just on spec.
>
>    Glyn
>
>> From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:53:21 -0800
>> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>> Subject: Re: [VAL] fresh water pump
>>
>> Dan,
>> If your fresh water pump is a PAR belt driven model, then it might well
>> be worth to rebuild it.
>> Wets Marine offers rebuild kits by pump number, as these pumps were
>> widely used in Marine applications for their reliability and quiet
>> operation.
>> Rebuilding takes all but 30 minutes, and you end up with a much more
>> valuable product than most of the rotary replacement pumps.
>> My old PAR pump even has a dampening chamber built in to prevent water
>> hammer noises with the pump running.
>> If your trailer does not have one of these pumps, then the Shur-Flo
>> that was recommended certainly is your best choice, in my opinion.
>>
>> Uwe Salwender
>> Orange CA
>>
>>
>>> Need to replace my fresh water pump.  Any suggestions?
>>> Dan
>>> 14148
>>
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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:28:36 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 12 Volt Flourescent Fixtures?

Hi Dave,

Week before last when we spent 8 days at the Top of Georgia Airstream Park I 
had the good fortune of meeting lots of very nice people and we also shared 
lots of tips and tricks about our Airstreams.

One of the neatest things I witnessed was the installation of two 120-volt 
fluorescent lights hidden behind the window cornices that are above all of 
our windows in our Airstream trailers.  This fellow had these 120-volt 
fluorescent lamps hooked up to 12-VOLT instead of the 120-volt you'd expect. 
The result?  A warm, homey glow to the front of the trailer where the living 
area was.  These were the 20-inch variety and have been there for over TEN 
years or more.

It stands to reason that a 120-volt fluorescent bulb will light off the gas 
with a 12-volt power supply.  After all, you are not trying to light up a 
filament for light like a regular light bulb, all you are doing is warming 
up tiny filaments which light off the fluorescent gas inside the tube.

Before you go spending a FORTUNE on 12-volt fluorescent light fixtures give 
this idea a try.  I plan to add a couple of these lights to my 34-ft 
Classic.

Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303



From: "Dave Lowrey" <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] 12 Volt Flourescent Fixtures?


>A while back I stumbled on a web site that had a LOT of 12 volt fluorescent
> light fixtures for RVs.
> Of course, now that I am ready to buy some, I cant find the site. Googling
> produces hits for just about every RV dealer on the web, so that isn't 
> very
> helpful.
> I am looking to replace the fixtures over the twin beds on my '77 
> Sovereign.
> Any pointers?
> Dave 

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