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VAL Digest          Saturday, March 12 2005          Volume 02 : Number 184




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Topics in Today's Digest:

RE: [VAL] Inverter/Charger
Re: [VAL] lamp
Re: [VAL] New Member With Many Questions:
RE: [VAL] Inverter/Charger
Re: [VAL] New Member With Many Questions:
Re: [VAL] Goodyear Marathon- not for me, Thanks
Re: [VAL] Goodyear Marathon- not for me, Thanks
[VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!
[VAL] tires on trailers
Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!
Re: [VAL] Inverter/Charger
Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!
[VAL] RE: 1965 Overlander toilet
Re: [VAL] "Favorites" list
[VAL] RV Service in Massachusetts?
Re: [VAL] Goodyear Marathon- not for me, Thanks
Re: [VAL] Battery Charging or lack thereof
RE: [VAL] '63 Overlander New Axle with Disc Brakes
Re: [VAL] Inverter/Charger
[VAL] Inverter/Charger
Re: [VAL] lamp
Re: [VAL] Inverter/Charger
[VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
[VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
Re: [VAL] RV Service in Massachusetts?
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
[VAL] Fwd: Contact Us from www.wbcci.org
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
Re: [VAL] lamp
RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
[VAL] Air Conditioning pan drain
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
Re: [VAL] Air Conditioning pan drain
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
Re: [VAL] RV Service in Massachusetts?
RE: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"
RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
RE: [VAL] lamp
Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
RE: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"
Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
RE: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
RE: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"
RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
Re: [VAL] RV Service in Massachusetts?
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
[VAL] another new member
Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
RE: [VAL] another new member
Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!
Re: [VAL] another new member
Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!
Re: [VAL] another new member
Re: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"
Re: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"
Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
Re: [VAL] another new member
Re: [VAL] another new member
RE: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
RE: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:01:04 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Inverter/Charger

For the life of me, I don't understand the sudden LPGphobia.  This is a safe
solid solution to many of RVers daily problem.  Whoever sold it as a safety
problem was doing marketing for their new electrical gadget.  It has no
basis in reality according to my years of bicycle and RV camping.

At the minimum I recommend carrying a half dozen of the small Coleman
cartridges and use them in a catalytic heater on a cold night, or in a small
gas barbecue cooking outside, or as the base for a small Century or Coleman
lantern or to heat water for your Zodi gas powered outdoor shower.  In other
words, there are a lot of safe and minimal ways to use gas and lose the
phobia.

Sincerely,

Bob Kiger

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Childress [mailto:daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:59 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Inverter/Charger
>
>
> I failed to indicate that the use of a "gas" generator also is not a
> option.  Cannot haul gas in van or truck or inside or outside the
> caravel.  It is a medical problem. It is either without lp or gas or
> without my wife.  I choose to do only without lp  and gas.   I do not
> consider boondocking or dry camping much fun by myself.
> Dan
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:51:07 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] lamp

Hey Kevin, WOW. I think I have seen the plate for that lamp 
before, but I never saw the actual lamp. Is it 12v ? What 
sort of base is in there to connect to power ?

Daisy
overlander64 wrote:

> Greetings Dan!

> There is another alternative that Airstream utilized in
> through the mid-1960s.  My '64 Overlander International was
> equipped with both the standard "scare light" as well as the
> optional porch light - - quite similar to household
> fixtures, but it attaches to an outlet on the side of the
> coach with a threaded device.  You can see photos of the
> fixture on my coach (it is easily removed for travel and
> there is a threaded cover that covers the outlet):

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:17:38 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] New Member With Many Questions:

Welcome !

Most all of the working systems of Airstreams are the same 
as other RV's, and so you don't need to go to an Airstream 
Dealer for those parts. The same is true for repair work. A 
good RV service center can take care of the gas, water and 
electrical systems and the running gear. If you need work on 
the skin, airplane repair shops can be a good resource.

I have also found a lot of parts at auto parts stores, NAPA 
actually has light lenses listed as Airstream parts.

Enjoy your new manual, I read mine from cover to cover twice 
after it came.

And please, replace your old gas furnace, it almost 
certainly has holes and will flat out kill you. Failing 
that, get it inspected by a gas service person.

Daisy

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:27:37 -0600
From: Daniel Childress <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Inverter/Charger

Bob

If you see hands swell up to look like polish sausages and shortness 
of breath you quickly realize that what may be safe or seem safe for 
others can be poison to some.

Dan

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:37:13 -0600
From: "Chaplain Kent" <Chaplainkent@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] New Member With Many Questions:

Welcome to the list. Best source for running lights is Airstream Dreams.
http://www.airstreamdreams.com/
Chaplain Kent
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: crankster@xxxxxxxxxx.net
  To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
  Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:02 AM
  Subject: [VAL] New Member With Many Questions:


  Hello Airstream Enthusiasts,
     My name is Brock Shields from Wagoner, OK (Somewhat N.E. corner of OK,
  30 mi. E. of Tulsa and 18 mi. N of Muskogee.
      An Okie almost from Muskogee... :-) .
     I've had for about a week now, a 1973 Excella 500. In my surfing the
  Net, I've come across the name of Helen Davis. A self-appointed
  national archivist for Airstream Owner & Shop Manuals (She very much
  chuckled when I referred to her as such). I hope to have those manuals
  tomorrow. What I've not found on the Internet is a source of NOS or
  authentic reproduction parts, specifically for the '73 Excella 500.
  There is nothing major wrong with the camper but there are a lot of
  little things. One item that is suspect is the burner unit on the water
  heater. Any help from the list for all parts to all components both
  cosmetic and mechanical will be most appreciated. The camper also needs
  a few running light lenses and a new front awning, etc. etc....

               On the Net,
       (and hopefully soon running down the road in the Silver Twinkie),

                         Brock Shields

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:39:42 EST
From: Imp67cc64@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Goodyear Marathon- not for me, Thanks

In a message dated 3/9/2005 11:59:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:

> John,
> >What other brand are you using?  I am in the process of selecting tires for 
> my
> >Safari.  Don't want Marathons again, but what else might be good?  Michelin
> >does not make a tire for my unit.  Anyone else have suggestions?
> >
> >Chris
> 

Chris, 
Sorry so late in reply, was out of town and away from computer.  I am now 
running Titan tires and have upgraded one load range just as a precaution since 
the trailer runs tandem axles and the additional load range adds another two 
plys to the side walls.

John

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:52:22 EST
From: Imp67cc64@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Goodyear Marathon- not for me, Thanks

In a message dated 3/9/2005 11:07:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
kodiak66joe@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:

> I have been collecting information regarding Marathon "S" D-rated tire
> failure.  I am curious as to which size Marathon D, what cold inflation
> pressure you were running, as to whether rubber or metal valve stems were
> used and what was the overall load per tire.  There is a correlation between
> failures and those items.
> 
> David
> 
> 

David,
It has been almost a year since the problem so I am not totally fresh on 
figures, but I run tires at max inflation per the sidewall spec; 65 lbs if memory 
serves right.  I do not have the trailer here to check size, but I believe I 
run 225/15's on that trailer and have and still use rubber valve stems; is this 
an issue?  I can change to metal stems if you think it is.   The first tire 
failed about 20 miles out from home after 700+ run that day, around 11pm so 
under relatively moderate temps (Atlanta, approx June 1, but not especially 
warm).  Trailer not used over summer, then next tire failed mid-sept night less 
than 80 miles out of town on a trip started around 8pm, probably similar to 
slightly cooler ambiant temps.

John

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:59:54 EST
From: Imp67cc64@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!

In a message dated 3/9/2005 6:27:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:

> If 15" light truck tires came in D-rating, perhaps
> that would be a good alternative. It seems that
> Michelin makes a very nice light truck tire, which I
> run on my Suburban, and never had any problems with
> them.
> 

I would not consider putting truck tires on a tandem axle trailer.  You need 
trailer tires for the additional sidewall strength required when turning, 
especially in tight turns.

John

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:13:58 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] tires on trailers

What abot the Titan trailer tire.
http://www.titanstore.com/store/RADIAL_STII.html

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:31:20 -0500
From: "Jim Stewart" <9stewart@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!

I wonder what U-Haul trailers use? They have to be the most overloaded, 
abused, high mileage tires out there. U-Haul must be doing something right. 
People just fill those things up top to bottom, front to back and you don't 
see them tore up along side the road.

Jim
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Imp67cc64@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:59 AM
Subject: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!


> In a message dated 3/9/2005 6:27:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:
>
>> If 15" light truck tires came in D-rating, perhaps
>> that would be a good alternative. It seems that
>> Michelin makes a very nice light truck tire, which I
>> run on my Suburban, and never had any problems with
>> them.
>>
>
> I would not consider putting truck tires on a tandem axle trailer.  You 
> need
> trailer tires for the additional sidewall strength required when turning,
> especially in tight turns.
>
> John
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:54:06 EST
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Inverter/Charger

Bob 
in my 78 years on this earth I have only found 1 family of 4 dead because of 
an un vented heater.In my years of towing I have only had 1 gasline break on I 
10 . and when I opened the trailer door it was full of gas.There are no 2nd 
chances.
Jim Smith

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:26:27 -0800
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!

All bias ply trailer tires not long ago were doing double duty as light 
truck tires, ( or vice versa) they usually have a LT rating on the 
sidewall.
With all the quality problems with trailer tires lately, I just wonder 
if a light truck tire wouldn't be a better choice.
How is the sidewall stress higher on a slow turning tandem axle tire, 
over using the same tire on a Suburban?
Just watch the tire's sidewall when you make a U-turn with the truck.
I see issues with possible rubber compound, and load rating. ( truck 
tires don't come in a D-Load rating, in 15"size)


On Friday, March 11, 2005, at 05:59  AM, Imp67cc64@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/9/2005 6:27:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:
>
>> If 15" light truck tires came in D-rating, perhaps
>> that would be a good alternative. It seems that
>> Michelin makes a very nice light truck tire, which I
>> run on my Suburban, and never had any problems with
>> them.
>>
>
> I would not consider putting truck tires on a tandem axle trailer.  
> You need
> trailer tires for the additional sidewall strength required when 
> turning,
> especially in tight turns.
>
> John
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:34:25 -0500
From: "J. Rags" <nyraggedyman@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] RE: 1965 Overlander toilet

Well here goes (hopefully I see this message in the next digest)...

Hello folks -- first time at using an email list anywhere.  Maybe this
will show up!

1965 Globe Trotter...

If someone's parting out a 65 toilet (as Chuck and Lynn mention) I'd
be interested in the toilet seat brackets.  Can't find them anywhere
so far.  I'm going to try and keep this trailer as original as I've
received it -- but already there's a new toilet seat on this baby that
doesn't belong and it's not an exact match to the bowl size either!

Now I've got to wait a day to see if this message actually shows up!  Thanks!

NY_8Y360

| Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 05:29:10 +0000
| From: c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net
| Subject: [VAL] 1965 Overlander toilet
| 
| If anyone is replacing the toilet in their 65 trailer, and trashing
the old one, we
| could use the slide valve assembly. Will pay prevailing price for
the right part.
| 
| Chuck & Lynn
|

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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:58:43 -0800
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] "Favorites" list

test
Colin 

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:51:19 -0800 (PST)
From: luminumtraila <luminumtraila@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] RV Service in Massachusetts?

I'm not only new to Airstreams, I'm new to RVing alltogether and I need to find 
a replacement furnace for our '76 Safari.  Our home is heated by propane and I 
think I could get our serviceman to look at the trailer furnace, but right now 
I'm feeling I would be better off to replace it from the get go and have peace 
of mind.  Does anyone on the VAList have an RV Service center in Eastern 
Massachusetts or Southern New Hampshire that they would recommend to us?
 
Thanks!
- -Jamie

Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote RE: New Member With Many Questions
And please, replace your old gas furnace, it almost 
certainly has holes and will flat out kill you. Failing 
that, get it inspected by a gas service person.



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Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 19:54:08 -0500
From: "C. Hyde" <brownhyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Goodyear Marathon- not for me, Thanks

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Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:28:46 -0800
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Battery Charging or lack thereof

  It appears, to my uneducated eye, that the
> univolt is not charging the batteries, even though it is converting the
> 120V shore power to 12V for all of the lights.  Is is possible to check
> this and how?
> Bill Kerfoot

Bill,
Check the individual batteries with a volt meter without the Univolt on and
then with the univolt on. A fully charged 12v battery is usually around 12.8
volts however when it is being charged it should be around 13.8-14.2 volts.
This will probably vary depending on how sophisticated your charger is. The
old univolts were pretty unforgiving to batteries. I've used this method for
years on automotive charging systems and it has worked very well. As many
others have stated, I suspect your batteries are probably finished due to
overcharging.
Colin Hyde

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:12:01 -0500
From: <pcfranke@xxxxxxxxxx.netcom.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] '63 Overlander New Axle with Disc Brakes

3/9/2005 5:16:10 AM, Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:

>Camping season is starting agin. i can't
>wait!

There is a season???

            -- Lew #4239

'72 Safari
Stuck in Ohio -- again.

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:06:13 -0800
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Inverter/Charger

> >     I am in the process of purchasing a 12 volt system. That
> > being a battery
> > charger, converter and a pure Sine Wave inverter.  Does anyone have any
> > suggestions?
> > Dan Childress

Bob & Dan,
One of our suppliers has suggested a Prosine 1000, 1800 or the 2.0 . The
company that makes them is Xantrex and can be found at www.xantrex.com . The
1000 & 1800 (1500 and 2900 watt surge capacity) do not include a charger
however the 2.0 does. I was quoted around $700 for the 1000 model. We have
not used these yet so I have no idea if they are any good.
Good luck with it.
Colin Hyde

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 20:13:25 -0800
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: [VAL] Inverter/Charger

From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Inverter/Charger


 >     I am in the process of purchasing a 12 volt system. That
 > being a battery
 > charger, converter and a pure Sine Wave inverter.  Does anyone have any
 > suggestions?
> Dan Childress

 Bob & Dan,
 One of our suppliers has suggested a Prosine 1000, 1800 or the 2.0 . The
 company that makes them is Xantrex and can be found at www.xantrex.com .
The
 1000 & 1800 (1500 and 2900 watt surge capacity) do not include a charger
 however the 2.0 does. I was quoted around $700 for the 1000 model. We have
 not used these yet so I have no idea if they are any good.
 Good luck with it.
 Colin Hyde

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:56:29 -0600
From: overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] lamp

Greetings Daisy!

> Hey Kevin, WOW. I think I have seen the plate for that
lamp  before, but I never saw the actual lamp. Is it 12v ?
What  sort of base is in there to connect to power ?
>
> Daisy

The outlet itself is a standard grounded (3-prong) outlet -
- - it is a single outlet mounted on the center of the
mounting strap - - the outlet cover has a single round
opening in the center with a threaded cover that is tethered
to the outlet cover plate - - the base of the fixture has a
grounded (3-prong) plug with a circular ring that attaches
to the outlet cover using the threaded fixture.

I would have to double-check, but I believe that the light
is a standard household fixture that was converted to
12-volt - - I have never tried using the light without shore
power, and for the past several years I have had a power
Inverter to further muddle my memory of how it works.  I
should be out in the lot and will check this weekend.

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers/Computer Club #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400
VORTEC/4.10 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:31:14 -0600
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Inverter/Charger

Thanks Dan

    I have looked at the 2.0 Prosine.  
Anyone out there have any experience with this??

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:34:38 -0600
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system

Has anyone every used a switch at the main 110 breaker panel.  One side 110
from shore and the other from the inverter?  This would power all outlets from
either source.

Dan

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:47:52 -0600
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

All

    Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.  Have mixed reviews as to
which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or the one with the auto
sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?

Dan

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:03:51 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RV Service in Massachusetts?

luminumtraila wrote:

> I'm not only new to Airstreams, I'm new to RVing alltogether and I need to 
find a replacement furnace for our '76 Safari.  Our home is heated by propane 
and I think I could get our serviceman to look at the trailer furnace, but right 
now I'm feeling I would be better off to replace it from the get go and have 
peace of mind.  Does anyone on the VAList have an RV Service center in Eastern 
Massachusetts or Southern New Hampshire that they would recommend to us?
YES!

Go to Dufours RV in Fitchburg !! (978)345-6047They are 
terrific ! they did all the work on my '73 and even berate 
me if I don't treat her well. Tell'em Daisy sent you !

I used to live in Lincoln MA.

Daisy

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:07:40 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

Hi Dan,
I'm a fan of this fan. Mine's in the front and if I open 
only the rear window it makes a fine breeze.

I have the plain old non-thinking one, partly because I'm 
cheep, partly because the more tricks something knows how to 
do the more things there are to go wrong....

Daisy

Dan Childress wrote:

> All
> 
>     Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.  Have mixed reviews as to
> which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or the one with the auto
> sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:12:49 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

Dan: I have the thermostat model, no rain thing. I love it. Quiet and 
quite sensitive. No problems. I wish I could find something for my 
house that worked as well. Somebody on the list was selling them but 
now I can't recall who it was.
Jo Ann
On Mar 2005, at 10:07 AM, Daisy Welch wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> I'm a fan of this fan. Mine's in the front and if I open only the rear 
> window it makes a fine breeze.
>
> I have the plain old non-thinking one, partly because I'm cheep, 
> partly because the more tricks something knows how to do the more 
> things there are to go wrong....
>
> Daisy
>
> Dan Childress wrote:
>
>> All
>>     Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.  Have mixed reviews 
>> as to
>> which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or the one with the 
>> auto
>> sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:15:46 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: [VAL] Fwd: Contact Us from www.wbcci.org

I recently contacted WBCCI regarding membership and some history on my 
parents' trailering days. I received this wonderful reply which I 
thought the rest of the list might enjoy.
Jo Ann Wheatley

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Kathy Adams" <kadams@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
> Date: March 2005 6:12:26 AM PST
> To: jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu
> Subject: RE: Contact Us from www.wbcci.org
>
> Jo Ann,
>
> In checking through our old membership directories I found that 
> Michael and
> Lena Canal's membership number was 31501 and they were members from 
> 1978
> through 1989.  Your father was president of the Gulf States Unit in 
> 1985.
> The Gulf States Unit has since merged with the Greater New Orleans 
> Unit.
> 31501 is a high membership number and we now assign most members a four
> digit number unless they request a five digit number so 31501 is open 
> if you
> want it.  When you fill out a membership application you will want to 
> be
> sure you indicate that 31501 is reserved for you.
>
> Did you go on caravans with them when you were young and perhaps go to 
> some
> rallies? We hope you will follow in your parents footsteps and join 
> WBCCI.
> We have the San Joaquin California Unit in your area so if you would 
> like a
> contact with this unit you may call or email Rosalyn Skadden, phone
> 559-255-8622 or skaddens@xxxxxxxxxx.com.  You join through the local unit and 
> both
> International dues and unit dues are paid in one check to the unit and 
> then
> your application would be forwarded to Headquarters office for number
> assignment and processing.
>
> Kathy Adams, Membership
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kadams@xxxxxxxxxx.org [mailto:kadams@xxxxxxxxxx.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 4:43 PM
> To: kadams@xxxxxxxxxx.org
> Subject: Contact Us from www.wbcci.org
>
>
>
> A new contact us request has been received from the website:
>
> Name: Jo Ann Wheatley
> Address: 2263 Flora St.
> City: San Luis Obispo
> State: CA
> Zip: 93401
> Phone: 805-541-0732
> Email: jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu
> Comments: My parents were member of WBCCI for several years in the 
> 1970's
> and 80's. Michael Canal and Lena Canal - my dad was president(?) of 
> the Gulf
> Coast region for a while and they went on quite a few caravans. Their 
> trailer
> was sold years ago. Can you tell me their "number" - I have recently 
> rebuilt
> a 1956 Bubble and may join the WBCCI also. I was interested in whether 
> their
> number might be available. Thanks for any help.
> Jo Ann Wheatley, Ph.D.

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:15:58 -0600
From: Blair <hitek_airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

I agree with Daisy re: simple is better.

  My experience is that the rain sensor is too sensitive and will go up and 
down in a light mist which will drive you crazy.

Blair


At 01:07 PM 3/11/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Dan,
>I'm a fan of this fan. Mine's in the front and if I open only the rear 
>window it makes a fine breeze.
>
>I have the plain old non-thinking one, partly because I'm cheep, partly 
>because the more tricks something knows how to do the more things there 
>are to go wrong....
>
>Daisy
>
>Dan Childress wrote:
>
>>All
>>     Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.  Have mixed reviews as to
>>which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or the one with the auto
>>sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:34:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Courtney Gwyn <rufuscourtney@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] lamp

I have two of those circular covered outlets on my 63 GT. Both are 110. I re-tethered 
the threaded cover-caps with some stainless ball chain.
 
I'd love to track down a porch light that would mount to one.
 
Any ideas?
 
Courtney
 
http://community.webshots.com/user/lotek112
 


overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
Greetings Daisy!

> Hey Kevin, WOW. I think I have seen the plate for that
lamp before, but I never saw the actual lamp. Is it 12v ?
What sort of base is in there to connect to power ?
>
> Daisy

The outlet itself is a standard grounded (3-prong) outlet -
- - it is a single outlet mounted on the center of the
mounting strap - - the outlet cover has a single round
opening in the center with a threaded cover that is tethered
to the outlet cover plate - - the base of the fixture has a
grounded (3-prong) plug with a circular ring that attaches
to the outlet cover using the threaded fixture.

I would have to double-check, but I believe that the light
is a standard household fixture that was converted to
12-volt - - I have never tried using the light without shore
power, and for the past several years I have had a power
Inverter to further muddle my memory of how it works. I
should be out in the lot and will check this weekend.

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers/Computer Club #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400
VORTEC/4.10 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:45:45 -0600
From: "David Tidmore" <dtidmore@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

Dan,
We have the full blown version (rain sensor and thermostat) on our '02
Bambi.  No problems with the rain sensor.  Unlike what some others have
experienced, ours waits until there is a pretty good rain coming down before
closing and then does not open back up until the rain has ended.  The
thermostat works well during the fall and spring when the nights cool off.


david


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Subject: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

All

    Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.  Have mixed reviews as to
which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or the one with the auto
sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?

Dan

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:46:20 EST
From: Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Air Conditioning pan drain

Hello:  I am 90% sure that my 1969 Tradewind has a drain clog from the 
Armstrong air conditioning unit.  Can someone tell me where the water drains out?  I 
see nothing on the underside of the trailer that looks like a drain.  Once I 
find where the water drains, how do I unclog the drain tube?  Would air 
pressure do it?  Thanks for any help.

Tom Fairbank
1969 Tradewind

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:50:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

- --- Dan Childress <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:

> All
> 
>     Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent. 
> Have mixed reviews as to
> which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or
> the one with the auto
> sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?
> 
> Dan

Dan,
I just bought 2 of the fantastic fans for my 1963
Overlander. I purchased them from this place:
http://members.aol.com/fantasticvent/5000rbt.htm

The page in this link shows teh fans that I chose.
They are reversable, with temperature sensor.
I was told that on low they're quiet enough to sleep
by....we'll see about that.
I imagine that it woul dbe nice for the fans to come
on when it gets too warm in the trailer. 
I just finished the rooftop installation today. It was
very easy. My 1963 roof openings did not need any
cutting at all. Later model trailers with the ovalled
corners wiull need to be made square with some tin
snips. 
I have 2 extra Airstream interior trim garnishes if
you need them for your vurved ceiling. My ceiling was
straight where the fans are, so I actually re-ordered
plain garnishes.
Check out teh Adohen website, there's a ton of useful
information.
I decided against the auto opening feature wit rain
sensor. I have read mixed reviews about those, whereas
very few people ever have problems with the less
luxurious fantastic vents.
Best wishes!

Uwe Salwender
Orange CA

Uwe Salwender
Orange, CA.

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:03:44 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Air Conditioning pan drain

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com>

1969 Tradewind has a drain clog from the
> Armstrong air conditioning unit.  Can someone tell me where the water
>drains out?  I  see nothing on the underside of the trailer that looks like
a >drain.  Once I  find where the water drains, how do I unclog the drain
tube?

It should drain on the street side wheel well. You can take the cover off of
the A/C and then remove to inner cover to get access to the blower, coils
and drain pan. That would be the best place to work on the blocked drain.
While you are there clean the coils, make a big difference in performance.

Don

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:02:17 -0800
From: rics <rics@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

sure, perfect. wanna just call me? r
On Mar 11, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Uwe Salwender wrote:

> --- Dan Childress <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
>
>> All
>>
>>     Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.
>> Have mixed reviews as to
>> which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or
>> the one with the auto
>> sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?
>>
>> Dan
>
> Dan,
> I just bought 2 of the fantastic fans for my 1963
> Overlander. I purchased them from this place:
> http://members.aol.com/fantasticvent/5000rbt.htm
>
> The page in this link shows teh fans that I chose.
> They are reversable, with temperature sensor.
> I was told that on low they're quiet enough to sleep
> by....we'll see about that.
> I imagine that it woul dbe nice for the fans to come
> on when it gets too warm in the trailer.
> I just finished the rooftop installation today. It was
> very easy. My 1963 roof openings did not need any
> cutting at all. Later model trailers with the ovalled
> corners wiull need to be made square with some tin
> snips.
> I have 2 extra Airstream interior trim garnishes if
> you need them for your vurved ceiling. My ceiling was
> straight where the fans are, so I actually re-ordered
> plain garnishes.
> Check out teh Adohen website, there's a ton of useful
> information.
> I decided against the auto opening feature wit rain
> sensor. I have read mixed reviews about those, whereas
> very few people ever have problems with the less
> luxurious fantastic vents.
> Best wishes!
>
> Uwe Salwender
> Orange CA
>
> Uwe Salwender
> Orange, CA.
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:10:21 -0800
From: rics <rics@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

oops sorry guys, responding to a message from my wife, ric
On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:02 AM, rics wrote:

> sure, perfect. wanna just call me? r
> On Mar 11, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Uwe Salwender wrote:
>
>> --- Dan Childress <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All
>>>
>>>     Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.
>>> Have mixed reviews as to
>>> which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or
>>> the one with the auto
>>> sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>
>> Dan,
>> I just bought 2 of the fantastic fans for my 1963
>> Overlander. I purchased them from this place:
>> http://members.aol.com/fantasticvent/5000rbt.htm
>>
>> The page in this link shows teh fans that I chose.
>> They are reversable, with temperature sensor.
>> I was told that on low they're quiet enough to sleep
>> by....we'll see about that.
>> I imagine that it woul dbe nice for the fans to come
>> on when it gets too warm in the trailer.
>> I just finished the rooftop installation today. It was
>> very easy. My 1963 roof openings did not need any
>> cutting at all. Later model trailers with the ovalled
>> corners wiull need to be made square with some tin
>> snips.
>> I have 2 extra Airstream interior trim garnishes if
>> you need them for your vurved ceiling. My ceiling was
>> straight where the fans are, so I actually re-ordered
>> plain garnishes.
>> Check out teh Adohen website, there's a ton of useful
>> information.
>> I decided against the auto opening feature wit rain
>> sensor. I have read mixed reviews about those, whereas
>> very few people ever have problems with the less
>> luxurious fantastic vents.
>> Best wishes!
>>
>> Uwe Salwender
>> Orange CA
>>
>> Uwe Salwender
>> Orange, CA.
>>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:18:17 -0800 (PST)
From: luminumtraila <luminumtraila@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RV Service in Massachusetts?

Daisy -- thanks for the information on Dufours in Fitchburg.  That's not too far 
from us at all.  We're in Carlisle, not far from Lincoln (I take art classes at 
Decordova).  Hope to meet you sometime!
 
Chyde -- thanks for information about furnaces and your services.  We do have a 
small catalytic heater that is working now, though it's a bit rusty.  It might 
need updating soon too.   The one in our '76 Safari that is not working is a 
Suburban Dyna-Trail NT-22A.  I think I read somewhere that there was a recall on 
this model and don't have any idea whether our furnace was serviced for that recall.  
Very scary!
 
Chyde wrote Re:  Airstream Service in MA
... Check out our
capabilities in my ad in the "Notices" section of the Vintage Airstream 
Club website  classifieds. www.airstream.net or in the latest issue of 
Airstream Life magazine www.airstreamlife.com .
If we can be of any help to you, just give me a call,
Thanks,
Colin Hyde
GSM Vehicles Inc.
2893 Florida Ave.
Plattsburgh, NY 12903
(518) 561-4784


Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote: 
YES!

Go to Dufours RV in Fitchburg !! (978)345-6047They are 
terrific ! they did all the work on my '73 and even berate 
me if I don't treat her well. Tell'em Daisy sent you !

I used to live in Lincoln MA.
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:37:07 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"

Nice presentation Courtney.  How do you feel cruising all across country
these days in a single axle travel trailer.  I still worry about all those
posts about tire blow out, landing on the skids etc.  Has it been an issue.

My 22 foot 1966 Safari was about as big as Aistream went before switching to
double axle.  If someone can verify this statement . . . please do.  So I am
constantly wondering whether the best future for my coach is permanent rest
in my lovely Mobile Community or putting something like a Park Model in and
either selling the Airstream to someone who has the resources and the skill
to keep it well on the road like you are doing OR doing both.

I could hook up my 1973 Ford CamperVan to the 1966 Airstream Safari and have
a dual condo rolling around North America?  Sound like a blast and a lot of
maintenance all at the same time.

Bob Kiger
www.cruiserbob.com
www.videography.org
Oceanside, CA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Courtney Gwyn [mailto:rufuscourtney@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> Subject: Re: [VAL] lamp
>
> Courtney
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:44:23 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

If the technology works than I would prefer to have the full blown version.
Here's why.  Because I have an old coach with a stock Univolt that isn't
broke and doesn't hum, the technique I use for exercising batteries is to
run non-dangerous DC appliances while I am out on errands, to draw down the
battery.

With my current existing Fantastic vent I am afraid to leave it on because,
if it rains, than the dumb unit will just stay open and water will splash in
all over my computer.  Your new smarter unit would, as you describe "waits
until there is a pretty good rain coming down before closing and then does
not open back up until the rain has ended".  That sounds perfect for many
reasons.

It protect the coach interior from water damage while continuing a fresh
stream of air so I don't get that "vintage smell" when I first enter the
coach AND it exercises my batteries before and after the rain event.

I'm sold!

Bob Kiger
www.cruiserbob.com
www.videography.org
Oceanside, CA

PS:  "It never Rains in California
	But kids, let me warn ya
	It storms . . . Man, it storms"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Tidmore [mailto:dtidmore@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:46 AM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
>
>
> Dan,
> We have the full blown version (rain sensor and thermostat) on our '02
> Bambi.  No problems with the rain sensor.  Unlike what some others have
> experienced, ours waits until there is a pretty good rain coming
> down before
> closing and then does not open back up until the rain has ended.  The
> thermostat works well during the fall and spring when the nights cool off.
>
>
> david
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Dan Childress
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:48 AM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?
>
> All
>
>     Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.  Have mixed reviews as to
> which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or the one with the auto
> sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?
>
> Dan
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:49:24 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] lamp

There was such an outdoor light on my Monitor. I think the light survived 
the destruction of the trailer, but I don't remember if the receptacle did. 
There was a switch inside for that outlet. I don't find modern fixtures set 
up that way in my catalogs, but they may still exist.

Electrically using a standard grounded 120 volt plug and receptacle 
would work with a 12 volt lamp if wired to the 12 volt system. Since there 
are 50 watt 12 volt lamps in the same edison base as a 40 or 60 watt 120 
volt lamp, nothing unique is required.

Unfortunately lamp life is very short when that 12 volt lamp and fixture 
gets plugged into a 120 volt receptacle. And that could be a hazardous 
situation if the lamp breaks.

On lamps for the scare lamp: The original was 1034, 28.7 watts total. The 
1154 appears to fit the same socket with a total of 20.3 watts. The 1157 
fits but draws more power, 32.3 watts. The 1176 is in between at 23.2 
watts.

Gerald J., WBCCI #5623, VAC

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:49:18 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system

I don't have that switch in my Airstream, but I've had it out on the pole 
for this house for at least 20 years to select REC or standby generator. Like 
Dean said for the moderate loads of the trailer, a three way light switch 
rated at 20 amps does that task inexpensively. If all your loads are 120 
volts, none at 240, then the single pole double throw switch is all you 
need. And the three way light switch is exactly that. Like a Leviton 636-
5523-2IS (Home Depot SKU 615150). You switch only the hot.

Another way to do it is to install a separate branch breaker for the 
inverter back feed, then interlock its handle with the main so that only 
one can be on at a time. I did that 15 years at in my barn at the new 
place. While not common home center items, I know several breaker 
makers do supply such interlocks in their commercial catalogs. In my 
situation I had to create the interlock  mechanism.

Then those same makers sell a double throw enclosed knife switch for just 
such a purpose. They come in ratings of 30, 60, 100, 200, and on up to at 
least 600 amps. And in one, two and three poles. Sometimes they are 
shown as a "transfer switch."

I think that some alternative energy inverters may also include the 
transfer switch within them. Some will interconnect to the power line so 
that if the solar panels have excess energy they will push it back to the 
power line hoping to turn the electric meter backwards, in effect using 
the power company for energy storage. Then those must have a 
provision for disconnecting the power line with power is off to keep from 
trying to back feed to the neighbors through the power lines which would 
present a severe shock hazard to the linemen fixing downed lines.

Some power companies do not appreciate running the meter 
backwards. They insist on separate meters with ratchets so they can pay 
only for the avoided fuel costs but charge full retail for energy taken from 
them. This is a contentious issue in many places.

Gerald J.

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:17:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Courtney Gwyn <rufuscourtney@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"

The phrase "ignorance is bliss" comes to mind......
 
Before I left I got new Marathons with metal valve stems. I knew Marathons 
had a bad rap, but I couldn't find anything else that made sense at the time.
 
I've checked the pressure regularly and it has only varied by 1/2 lb according 
to my digital guage.
 
I have noticed a seam/bulge on the sidewall. It worried me until Uwe told me 
he had noticed the same on his. I guess it's just how a Marathon looks.
 
I'm in LA now and my GT is in a friends driveway in San Diego temporarily. I'm 
looking for a place to store it nearer LA if anyone has any ideas...
 
Courtney
 
http://community.webshots.com/user/lotek112

Cruiserbob <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
Nice presentation Courtney. How do you feel cruising all across country
these days in a single axle travel trailer. I still worry about all those
posts about tire blow out, landing on the skids etc. Has it been an issue.

My 22 foot 1966 Safari was about as big as Aistream went before switching to
double axle. If someone can verify this statement . . . please do. So I am
constantly wondering whether the best future for my coach is permanent rest
in my lovely Mobile Community or putting something like a Park Model in and
either selling the Airstream to someone who has the resources and the skill
to keep it well on the road like you are doing OR doing both.

I could hook up my 1973 Ford CamperVan to the 1966 Airstream Safari and have
a dual condo rolling around North America? Sound like a blast and a lot of
maintenance all at the same time.

Bob Kiger
www.cruiserbob.com
www.videography.org
Oceanside, CA

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> Subject: Re: [VAL] lamp
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:18:43 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system

You have to have some sort of switch.  If you connect shore power and 
inverter wiring to the circuit breaker/fuse panel at the same time, you're 
asking for trouble.  The best way is to have an automatic switch.

Roger
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Subject: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system


> Has anyone every used a switch at the main 110 breaker panel.  One side 
> 110
> from shore and the other from the inverter?  This would power all outlets 
> from
> either source.
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:53:35 -0600
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system

Gerald,

    How about this solution.  My caravel will be powered by a 50 amp cord 
and my inverter will have also have two power lines coming out of the back 
(separate),  How about installing a 50 amp outlet at the front or side of 
the camper coming from the inverter.  This way the power would either come 
from the grid through the power cord to from the inverter from the same 
power cord.  What do you think?  Would not need additional switching inside 
the caravel as you know space is not in abundance.

Dan

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:43:45 -0600
From: Dean L <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system

Yes,  You must use a 3 way switch with inverter on one leg and the 
shore power on the other side.
The swinger will feed the outlets in your trailer.
Also,  you must isolate your Unvolt from the system.  otherwise you 
will be trying to charge your battery from your inverter...  Now that 
is going in a circle...  It just won't work..
Another thing.. Isolate the AC and your fredg and water heater if 
electric while you are on inverter power as they will just kill your 
batteries.
Dean

On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Dan Childress wrote:

> Has anyone every used a switch at the main 110 breaker panel.  One 
> side 110
> from shore and the other from the inverter?  This would power all 
> outlets from
> either source.
>
> Dan

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:48:56 EST
From: HHamp5246@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

In a message dated 3/11/2005 1:13:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu writes:


>     Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.  Have mixed reviews 
> >> as to which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or the one with 
> the 
> >> auto sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?>
> 
> I have the thermostat model with the auto rain sensor.  It's great.  The 
> only thing I don't like about it is if I don't have enough power to run the air 
> and when it's raining it closes so no cool breeze.
> 
> I just bought a Max Air cover for it.... one day I'll actually install it <g>
> 
> 
> If I have any problems I just call FV and they send me whatever part I need. 
> I'm on my third motor.
> 
> Hunter



http://members.aol.com/ILuvBrady/summer2004.htm

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy 
shit...what a ride!"

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:49:44 -0800 (PST)
From: DAVID GRYVNAK <gryvnakd@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"

Courtney, If you have a bulge on the sidewall, look out.  It should never be there.  
That tire is defective.  I'd get that tire to goodyear and have them replace it.  
I would not endanger my family by funning on that tire.

Courtney Gwyn <rufuscourtney@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:The phrase "ignorance is 
bliss" comes to mind......

Before I left I got new Marathons with metal valve stems. I knew Marathons had a 
bad rap, but I couldn't find anything else that made sense at the time.

I've checked the pressure regularly and it has only varied by 1/2 lb according to 
my digital guage.

I have noticed a seam/bulge on the sidewall. It worried me until Uwe told me he had 
noticed the same on his. I guess it's just how a Marathon looks.

I'm in LA now and my GT is in a friends driveway in San Diego temporarily. I'm 
looking for a place to store it nearer LA if anyone has any ideas...

Courtney

http://community.webshots.com/user/lotek112

Cruiserbob wrote:
Nice presentation Courtney. How do you feel cruising all across country
these days in a single axle travel trailer. I still worry about all those
posts about tire blow out, landing on the skids etc. Has it been an issue.

My 22 foot 1966 Safari was about as big as Aistream went before switching to
double axle. If someone can verify this statement . . . please do. So I am
constantly wondering whether the best future for my coach is permanent rest
in my lovely Mobile Community or putting something like a Park Model in and
either selling the Airstream to someone who has the resources and the skill
to keep it well on the road like you are doing OR doing both.

I could hook up my 1973 Ford CamperVan to the 1966 Airstream Safari and have
a dual condo rolling around North America? Sound like a blast and a lot of
maintenance all at the same time.

Bob Kiger
www.cruiserbob.com
www.videography.org
Oceanside, CA

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> Subject: Re: [VAL] lamp
>
> Courtney
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:51:02 EST
From: HHamp5246@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

In a message dated 3/11/2005 1:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
hitek_airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:


>   My experience is that the rain sensor is too sensitive and will go up and 
> 
> down in a light mist which will drive you crazy.

That's whay there's a way to stop that.  Turn it on and get it going... then 
turn it back off when the thing opens all the way.  When it starts down grab 
the motor dial and stop it.

That deactivates the rain sensor.

Don't forget to reactivate it though..... or in my case sleep in the wet 
spot. )c:

To reactivate it simply turn the dial to 0 and then back on...... it'll 
continue closing.

Hunter 

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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy 
shit...what a ride!"

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:57:27 EST
From: HHamp5246@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

In a message dated 3/11/2005 2:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
rics@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:


> oops sorry guys, responding to a message from my wife, ric

So.... I shouldn't call?

<g>

Hunter

http://members.aol.com/ILuvBrady/summer2004.htm

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy 
shit...what a ride!"

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:14:13 GMT
From: <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"

Hey Courtney ,and all
  Your back on the list I see , I have`nt checked my messages in months
(amazing how much you can fit in mailbox).We used to talk about caravels.I 
see your traveling west coast as well, I left maine in early sept, moseyed 
my way thru so.dakota wyoming, crosssed donner pass before 2 ft snow next 
day , western sierra nevada ,no.cal ,mohave ,spent last couple of months 
in the dez around Blythe, Ca and am about to head No.az ,n.m ,and home .
   No tire troubles yet thank goodness in the 63 flying cloud , weighed in 
@3968 # when I left, more now with rocks I collected .Enjoyed your pics , 
will post mine upon my return . I`d worry more about your wheels ,Bob .
  Hi to all the rest of you airstreamers .Wish Id run into more of you on 
the way ,have met acouple of ya though ...
Chris Elliott ,63 flying cloud (lil` grasshopper )

> The phrase "ignorance is bliss" comes to mind......
>  
>> I'm in LA now and my GT is in a friends driveway in San Diego 
temporarily. I'm looking for
a place to store it nearer LA if anyone has any ideas...
>  
> Courtney
>  
> http://community.webshots.com/user/lotek112
> 
> Cruiserbob <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> Nice presentation Courtney. How do you feel cruising all across country
> these days in a single axle travel trailer. I still worry about all those
> posts about tire blow out, landing on the skids etc. Has it been an 
issue.
> 


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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:14:04 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

Hunter wrote:
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
> well-preserved body,
> but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy
> shit...what a ride!"

I say:
After doing a double rollover off a cliff on Hwy 1 70 miles south of El
Rosario . . . in the badlands of Baja and walking away from it to live
another day, I don't agree with your saying.  Surely there must be a
compromise.

Bob Kiger
owner of what used to be a pristine 1966 Ford E-250 Camper Special.

PS. Fortunately, when I crashed, my Airstream Safari was not in tow, but
with the lane width that exists in Baja, the 6-12" drop-offs on the
pavement, the speed of traffic and the treacherous turns I can't imagine
pulling my dear Safari down Hwy 1 !!!  If anyone want to see the full story
of my Baja crash post the list and I'll put it up in PDF form. Otherwise . .
. nuf said.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:24:34 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RV Service in Massachusetts?

luminumtraila wrote:

> Daisy -- thanks for the information on Dufours in Fitchburg.  That's not 
too far from us at all.  We're in Carlisle, not far from Lincoln (I take art 
classes at Decordova).  Hope to meet you sometime!
>  
> Chyde -- thanks for information about furnaces and your services.  We do 
have a small catalytic heater that is working now, though it's a bit rusty.  It 
might need updating soon too.   The one in our '76 Safari that is not working 
is a Suburban Dyna-Trail NT-22A.  I think I read somewhere that there was a 
recall on this model and don't have any idea whether our furnace was serviced 
for that recall.  Very scary!
Dufours put in a new furnace for me, mine had a 110 only 
park model furnace. The service Dpt can cope with the recall 
too and advise you on the best one to get.


Daisy

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:28:46 -0500
From: <pcfranke@xxxxxxxxxx.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

3/11/2005 5:47:52 AM, "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:

>    Looking at installing a fantastic fan vent.  Have mixed reviews as to
>which one to purchase.  The one with a thermostat or the one with the auto
>sensor in case of rain.  Any experience?

Jackson Center installed one (with both thermostat and rain sensor) for me last 
October in the forward vent opening.  Used it in Texas this 
winter in the sun and with ambient temps up to 85.  Worked fantastic-ally.  Never 
had to run the AC (as we always have in previous winters), 
never had to open more than the one window in back, always shut down when real rain 
began, never failed.  As cynical as I am. I can not 
fault it.

         -- Lew #4239

'72 Safari
Stuck in Ohio -- again.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:42:50 -0500
From: "Mary Haque" <jijitrish@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] another new member

Hello,
My name is Mary and I just purchased my first Airstream. I bought a 1962
Tradewind off of ebay...I named her Dorthy
as she was delivered from Kansas. I live in Lilburn Ga. (Atlanta) and have
Dorthy in dry storage in Helen Ga.
Just pulling up to the park and seeing her makes me smile. I have been
watching this site for the last few weeks, all of the help is wonderful.  I
have a question please...The wood in Dorthy needs some help. She is all
original so I don't want any of that to change. I need to know what to use to
bring it back to life. It seems dry and colorless.
I thank you for help,
Mary

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:47:49 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

I trust that everyone knows better than to post the list as suggested.  Bob, 
you need to reread the list guidelines.  This is definitely off-topic.

- -Tom

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?


>   If anyone want to see the full story
> of my Baja crash post the list and I'll put it up in PDF form. Otherwise . 
> .
> . nuf said.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:08:59 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] another new member

Oh God!  Another reminder of a project for my ToDo list :)  I use Murphy's
oil soap to clean wood and Old English Lemon Oil to bring out the luster and
prevent dryness.  Now that you've got me going I have a weekend project.

Bob Kiger
www.cruiserbob.com
Oceanside, CA

PS.  Please post pix of your new coach so we can all see it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Haque [mailto:jijitrish@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:43 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] another new member
>
>
> Hello,
> My name is Mary and I just purchased my first Airstream. I bought a 1962
> Tradewind off of ebay...I named her Dorthy
> as she was delivered from Kansas. I live in Lilburn Ga. (Atlanta) and have
> Dorthy in dry storage in Helen Ga.
> Just pulling up to the park and seeing her makes me smile. I have been
> watching this site for the last few weeks, all of the help is
> wonderful.  I
> have a question please...The wood in Dorthy needs some help. She is all
> original so I don't want any of that to change. I need to know
> what to use to
> bring it back to life. It seems dry and colorless.
> I thank you for help,
> Mary
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:18:17 -0800
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!

On Friday, March 11, 2005, at 06:31  AM, Jim Stewart wrote:

> I wonder what U-Haul trailers use? They have to be the most 
> overloaded, abused, high mileage tires out there. U-Haul must be doing 
> something right. People just fill those things up top to bottom, front 
> to back and you don't see them tore up along side the road.
>
> Jim
>
Hi Jim,

I rented seveal U-Haul box trailers in the last few years, and they all 
had Good Year tires on them, but not Marathons. They were proprietary 
to U-Haul, I think. I have never seen the same tires on any other 
trailer. I remember because I checked trhe tire pressure before heading 
out with the loaded trailer.

Uwe Salwender
Orange CA

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:29:18 -0500
From: "Mary Haque" <jijitrish@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] another new member

Thank you!
Mary
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Cruiserbob<mailto:bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
  To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com<mailto:valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
  Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [VAL] another new member


  Oh God!  Another reminder of a project for my ToDo list :)  I use Murphy's
  oil soap to clean wood and Old English Lemon Oil to bring out the luster
and
  prevent dryness.  Now that you've got me going I have a weekend project.

  Bob Kiger
  www.cruiserbob.com<http://www.cruiserbob.com/>
  Oceanside, CA

  PS.  Please post pix of your new coach so we can all see it.

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Mary Haque [mailto:jijitrish@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
  > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:43 PM
  > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com<mailto:valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
  > Subject: [VAL] another new member
  >
  >
  > Hello,
  > My name is Mary and I just purchased my first Airstream. I bought a 1962
  > Tradewind off of ebay...I named her Dorthy
  > as she was delivered from Kansas. I live in Lilburn Ga. (Atlanta) and
have
  > Dorthy in dry storage in Helen Ga.
  > Just pulling up to the park and seeing her makes me smile. I have been
  > watching this site for the last few weeks, all of the help is
  > wonderful.  I
  > have a question please...The wood in Dorthy needs some help. She is all
  > original so I don't want any of that to change. I need to know
  > what to use to
  > bring it back to life. It seems dry and colorless.
  > I thank you for help,
  > Mary
  >
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:38:16 -0500
From: "Jim Stewart" <9stewart@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!

You are right, I looked at some today. They were made by Goodyear, and had 
"property of U-Haul not for resale" written on the side. The ones I looked 
at were on a rather small trailer. They were ST 205/75/14D  This is a bias 
ply tire. They looked very sturdy.

Jim
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Uwe Salwender" <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Truck tires on trailers: Just say NO!!!


> On Friday, March 11, 2005, at 06:31  AM, Jim Stewart wrote:
>
>> I wonder what U-Haul trailers use? They have to be the most overloaded, 
>> abused, high mileage tires out there. U-Haul must be doing something 
>> right. People just fill those things up top to bottom, front to back and 
>> you don't see them tore up along side the road.
>>
>> Jim
>>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I rented seveal U-Haul box trailers in the last few years, and they all 
> had Good Year tires on them, but not Marathons. They were proprietary to 
> U-Haul, I think. I have never seen the same tires on any other trailer. I 
> remember because I checked trhe tire pressure before heading out with the 
> loaded trailer.
>
> Uwe Salwender
> Orange CA
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:49:12 -0500
From: "Wally" <maltnhops@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] another new member

Mary,

   Airstream originally used and recommended Watco Danish Oil for the wood 
in your Tradewind.  It's likely to take several coats to finally bring back 
some luster.  The wood gets very "thirsty" after years of neglect.

Good luck,
Wally
www.vintageairstreamer.com


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mary Haque" <jijitrish@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] another new member


> Thank you!
> Mary
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cruiserbob<mailto:bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>  To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com<mailto:valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>  Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:08 PM
>  Subject: RE: [VAL] another new member
>
>
>  Oh God!  Another reminder of a project for my ToDo list :)  I use 
> Murphy's
>  oil soap to clean wood and Old English Lemon Oil to bring out the luster
> and
>  prevent dryness.  Now that you've got me going I have a weekend project.
>
>  Bob Kiger
>  www.cruiserbob.com<http://www.cruiserbob.com/>
>  Oceanside, CA
>
>  PS.  Please post pix of your new coach so we can all see it.
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Mary Haque [mailto:jijitrish@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
>  > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:43 PM
>  > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com<mailto:valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>  > Subject: [VAL] another new member
>  >
>  >
>  > Hello,
>  > My name is Mary and I just purchased my first Airstream. I bought a 
> 1962
>  > Tradewind off of ebay...I named her Dorthy
>  > as she was delivered from Kansas. I live in Lilburn Ga. (Atlanta) and
> have
>  > Dorthy in dry storage in Helen Ga.
>  > Just pulling up to the park and seeing her makes me smile. I have been
>  > watching this site for the last few weeks, all of the help is
>  > wonderful.  I
>  > have a question please...The wood in Dorthy needs some help. She is all
>  > original so I don't want any of that to change. I need to know
>  > what to use to
>  > bring it back to life. It seems dry and colorless.
>  > I thank you for help,
>  > Mary
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:01:01 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"

Courtney,

There are several places in Orange County, Email me if you need some info.

Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA

http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari

Courtney Gwyn wrote:

> 
>I'm in LA now and my GT is in a friends driveway in San Diego temporarily. 
I'm looking for a place to store it nearer LA if anyone has any ideas...
> 
>Courtney

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:33:24 -0800
From: Uwe Salwender <salwender@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] lamp as a "light into the future"

On Friday, March 11, 2005, at 02:49  PM, DAVID GRYVNAK wrote:

> Courtney, If you have a bulge on the sidewall, look out.  It should 
> never be there.  That tire is defective.  I'd get that tire to 
> goodyear and have them replace it.  I would not endanger my family by 
> funning on that tire.
>
> Courtney Gwyn <rufuscourtney@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:The phrase "ignorance is 
> bliss" comes to mind......
>
> Before I left I got new Marathons with metal valve stems. I knew 
> Marathons had a bad rap, but I couldn't find anything else that made 
> sense at the time.
>
> I've checked the pressure regularly and it has only varied by 1/2 lb 
> according to my digital guage.
>
> I have noticed a seam/bulge on the sidewall. It worried me until Uwe 
> told me he had noticed the same on his. I guess it's just how a 
> Marathon looks.
>
> I'm in LA now and my GT is in a friends driveway in San Diego 
> temporarily. I'm looking for a place to store it nearer LA if anyone 
> has any ideas...
>
> Courtney

All 4 of my Marathons have a slight "negative"  bulge in the sidewall, 
in one spot. It runs from the rim bead to the beginning of the tread.  
All 4 of my Michelin Radials on my Suburban have this also.
There's a definite difference between separation, and manufacturing 
'marks".  I was referring to these manufacturing marks when I talked to 
Courtney.
A bubble, or protruding bulge, or tread separation, would definitely be 
a very bad thing.

Uwe Salwender
Orange CA

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:44:20 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system

The outlet on the inverter surely would make a solid switch, except for 
that problem Dean pointed out. That umbilical also supplies the battery 
charger and there's no progress made trying to charge the battery from 
the output of the inverter running on that same battery. Its a less than 
perpetual motion machine.

The 20 amp switch I've been mentioning is just the size of a standard light 
switch, doesn't need much space, and could be located alongside the 
main panel which in my '68 Caravel is under the couch accessible only 
from outside.

If you are rewiring to need a 250 volt 50 amp cord, you will using up lots of 
that space for a new main panel and there should be room in that for 
interlocked breakers for inverter power. You need to have the charger 
on a separate breaker interlocked like the main so you can't have 
charger and inverter and shore power running at the same time.

Isolating other loads unsuitable for inverter loads makes the breaker 
interlocking more complex. Somewhere along the line, its simpler and 
more compact to simply go brute force to a real transfer switch and a 
separate panel for the transferable loads. Look in the Northern Catalog 
for such panels made for use with standby generators.

Gerald J., WBCCI #5623, VAC

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:03 -0700
From: Royce <rkkessler@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] another new member

Mary,

Welcome to the group.  I have been working wood for over 35 years now and 
sometimes restore old pieces.  I would recommend using a white or gray 
abrasive pad with mineral spirits followed by a soft cotton cloth to clean 
the wood surface.  Follow that with a very thin coverage coat of tung oil 
blend.  Make sure it is real tung oil or blend you own, I can provide details 
if you are interested.  The best commercial tung oil blend is Waterlox. Make 
sure you have plenty of ventilation and use gloves.  You will find the tung 
oil is much more durable than other oil blends and is easy to restore when 
needed.  I use tung oil or a blend on the wood canoes, furniture, and harps 
that I build.

Royce
www.spearfishcreek.com

On Friday 11 March 2005 05:42 pm, Mary Haque wrote:
> Hello,
> My name is Mary and I just purchased my first Airstream. I bought a 1962
> Tradewind off of ebay...I named her Dorthy
> as she was delivered from Kansas. I live in Lilburn Ga. (Atlanta) and have
> Dorthy in dry storage in Helen Ga.
> Just pulling up to the park and seeing her makes me smile. I have been
> watching this site for the last few weeks, all of the help is wonderful.  I
> have a question please...The wood in Dorthy needs some help. She is all
> original so I don't want any of that to change. I need to know what to use
> to bring it back to life. It seems dry and colorless.
> I thank you for help,
> Mary
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:36:08 -0600
From: overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] another new member

Greetings Mary!

Welcome to the List and the world of Vintage Airstream
ownership!

> Hello,
> My name is Mary and I just purchased my first Airstream. I
bought a 1962 Tradewind off of ebay...I named her Dorthy as
she was delivered from Kansas. I live in Lilburn Ga.
(Atlanta) and have Dorthy in dry storage in Helen Ga. Just
pulling up to the park and seeing her makes me smile.
> I have been watching this site for the last few weeks, all
of the help is wonderful.  I have a question please...The
wood in Dorthy needs some help. She is all original so I
don't want any of that to change. I need to know what to use
to bring it back to life. It seems dry and colorless. I
thank you for help,
> Mary
>
Basically, you can use the same cleaning and preservation
products on your coach's woodwork that you would use on your
fine furniture.  When I first purchased my Overlander, I
completed a thorough cleaning with Murphys Oil Soap (there
was a heavy cigarette smoke/grease film on my coach's
interior), and then I followed up with Watco Oil finish
products for my spruce-up.  One thing that I found helpful
was to try any product that I wanted to use on the cabinetry
in an inconspicuous spot (such as interior of pantry or
cabinet door) to verify that it wouldn't produce undesirable
results.

Good luck with your Coach!

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers/Computer Club #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400
VORTEC/4.10 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:44:59 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system

Dr G.

Could we who have an original Univolt put a switch in front of the Univolt
that could manually overide the Univolts charging capacity and keep the A/C
going to the unit OR is Univolt an integral part of the A/C path?  If it is,
why?

Bob Kiger
Oceanside, CA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr. Gerald Johnson [mailto:geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 6:44 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
>
>
> The outlet on the inverter surely would make a solid switch, except for
> that problem Dean pointed out. That umbilical also supplies the battery
> charger and there's no progress made trying to charge the battery from
> the output of the inverter running on that same battery. Its a less than
> perpetual motion machine.
>
> The 20 amp switch I've been mentioning is just the size of a
> standard light
> switch, doesn't need much space, and could be located alongside the
> main panel which in my '68 Caravel is under the couch accessible only
> from outside.
>
> If you are rewiring to need a 250 volt 50 amp cord, you will
> using up lots of
> that space for a new main panel and there should be room in that for
> interlocked breakers for inverter power. You need to have the charger
> on a separate breaker interlocked like the main so you can't have
> charger and inverter and shore power running at the same time.
>
> Isolating other loads unsuitable for inverter loads makes the breaker
> interlocking more complex. Somewhere along the line, its simpler and
> more compact to simply go brute force to a real transfer switch and a
> separate panel for the transferable loads. Look in the Northern Catalog
> for such panels made for use with standby generators.
>
> Gerald J., WBCCI #5623, VAC
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:18:03 -0700
From: "Forrest McClure" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system

Bob,

This is something that I have done, and it works well. Put the switch in the
line from the Circuit Breaker box to the Univolt. I used the type of switch
that has a indicator light built into it to remind me that the Univolt was
charging the battery.

Forrest

> -----Original Message-----
> From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]On Behalf Of Cruiserbob
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:45 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Switch for inverter 12 volt to 110 system
>
>
> Dr G.
>
> Could we who have an original Univolt put a switch in front of the Univolt
> that could manually overide the Univolts charging capacity and
> keep the A/C
> going to the unit OR is Univolt an integral part of the A/C path?
>  If it is,
> why?
>
> Bob Kiger
> Oceanside, CA

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:44:09 -0800
From: "Tim S." <safari_tim@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fantastic Fan - Automatic?

It could be just because I don't know any better, so set me straight ;-)

Are people actually pulling out original, functional, aluminum vents and
installing a plastic vent?

Makes me go hmmmm....

- -Tim

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