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VAL Digest Thursday, March 3 2005 Volume 02 : Number 175
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Topics in Today's Digest:
[VAL] Keeping Fan Blades Clean
RE: [VAL] Keeping Fan Blades Clean
[VAL] TV Antennas and the future of TV
[VAL] Back to Magic Chef
[VAL] Re: oven
RE: [VAL] Keeping Fan Blades Clean
RE: [VAL] Re: starting an oven
Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
RE: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
RE: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
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Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
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Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:11:01 -0600
From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Keeping Fan Blades Clean
Why don't you cut a thin sheet of air conditioner filter into a circle and
install it on the back side ot the fan cage. That way all of the air to the
fan blades would be pulled through it and the dust would end up on the
filter instead of the blades.
Brian J.
Does anyone know if there were two small Kenco fans installed
>on the front
> > overhead cabinet of 1966 Airstreams.
> >
> > They look vintage but might have been an aftermarket? Anyway
>they are still
> > pushing air around nicely. Problem is that they seem to build up an
> > electostatic charge and attract tenacious dirt onto the blades.
> I have to
> > dismantle and clean them every month, just to keep them from
>yucking out my
> > fiance' :)
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:27:10 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Keeping Fan Blades Clean
Nice idea . . . sort of a air purifier on a fan.
What I ended up doing for the time being, is to remove and clean the cages.
Then I put them in storage, where I know I can find them :)
I thoroughly cleaned the Kenco Fans, which are very art deco with blue
plastic blades. I put my hand near the blade and it made a noise and then
stopped. I pulled my hand out and the fan resumed normal operation. So I
am going to leave off the cages and have only the fan blades exposed. They
are high enough and out of the way, to not get anyone into trouble (as in
"instant hair curler")
By leaving the blades exposed and not covered by the cages, I can clean them
eaasily and frequently. I think this is the Final Solution, but I will save
the cages :)
Thanks for everyone's help,
Bob Kiger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Jenkins [mailto:jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:11 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] Keeping Fan Blades Clean
>
>
> Why don't you cut a thin sheet of air conditioner filter into a
> circle and
> install it on the back side ot the fan cage. That way all of the
> air to the
> fan blades would be pulled through it and the dust would end up on the
> filter instead of the blades.
>
> Brian J.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if there were two small Kenco fans installed
> >on the front
> > > overhead cabinet of 1966 Airstreams.
> > >
> > > They look vintage but might have been an aftermarket? Anyway
> >they are still
> > > pushing air around nicely. Problem is that they seem to build up an
> > > electostatic charge and attract tenacious dirt onto the blades.
> > I have to
> > > dismantle and clean them every month, just to keep them from
> >yucking out my
> > > fiance' :)
>
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:09:19 -0700
From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] TV Antennas and the future of TV
The converstion to DTV will have greater inpact than what many believe. I
have been an early adopter of DTV/HDTV in the Denver area and have had to go
through the learning curve. First, for OTA (Over the air or antenna) DTV
reception, many existing TV antennas don't work well or at all. I soon
learned that a 10' RS antenna suitable for >60 mile reception for NTSC TV
did not work well for DTV in my local area. The main reason is DTV/HDTV is
nearly all UHF frequencies, while most antennas in use today have a VHF
orientation with small or no UHF reception capablities. The antenna on my
Sovereign is of this type which I plan to replace.
If you camp close to a DTV tower, practically a coat hanger will work. But
if you plan to received DTV/HDTV OTA, and camp in locations distant from DTV
towers, you will need a good DTV antenna. I have found the Channel Master
antenna with signal booster to work well for this purpose.
http://www.starkelectronic.com/cmuhf.htm
The model 4228 "8 Bay" UHF antenna with CM 7775 preamp, can pull DTV signals
from 100 miles away. The 4228 is about 30" x 30" making it fairly compact
for mounting on the roof of an a/s. I currently have this combo in my attic
and receive all local DTV channels indirectly bounced off a water tower 10
miles away. Very powerful antenna combo.
For many though, the best solution is to go with a satellite systems from
Dish Network of DirecTV. But I'd wait a while. Both of these companies are
converting their systems to MPEG4, a higher video compression technology
that will allow hundreds of local HDTV channels. Exisiting Dish/DTV HDTV
receivers cannot receive MPEG 4 channels.
Randy Unter
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:07:07 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
I caught a glimpse of the Magic Chef thread going by, while I was talking TV
antennas. I have a really clean 4 burner Magic Chef in my 1966 Safari. All
burners work perfectly. I light them with a butane stick, because I don't
like to leave lit and open pilots around.
We have never used the oven since I bought the coach but it is really clean
inside, so I'm not scared to poke around in there.
Can anyone give me directions on how to manually start the oven? I'd rather
get it from an expert than blow myself to kingdom come with a lit butane
stick and the oven turned on.
Thanks,
Bob Kiger
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:21:07 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: oven
The adjustment sheet for the oven control of my '68 Caravel is on my web
page http://www.geraldj.networkiowa.com. Click on Caravel and scroll
to the bottom of that page.
Gas appliances with much age do present hazards as the gaskets, shaft
seals and regulator diaphragms haven't remained in prime condition.
Hence propane suppliers now insist that tank pressure regulators at
homes be replace regularly.
As I recall reading the pilot lighting instructions for my Caravel's oven it
mean pushing that lighted match or butane stick to the rear of the oven.
So that when it goes BOOM, my whole arm is exposed. So it may be
another 100 years before I decide to light that oven.
I know my mom threw out her gas stove at home about 1947 as soon as
she could buy an electric stove because she was tired of growing new
eyebrows and having to pick the oven door up off the opposite wall of
the kitchen from it exploding when being lighted. When camping out in
the boonies, getting a burn takes away more than all of the fun of the
trip.
Gerald J.
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:21:14 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Keeping Fan Blades Clean
I learned long long ago that fan blades slap on the side the air comes out
of, but BITE on the intake side.
Gerald J.
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:37:09 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Re: starting an oven
I pocked around while cleaning under the burners. There were two screw
adjusters. One went directly to the four burners. I assume this is to
adjust the amount of gas to the pilot burners. The other, slightly smaller
screw adjuster went to the back and down. It was a fair guess that this
screw adjuster was for the oven pilot.
I turned the screw one way and then the other while I had the fire stick on
the pilot light, which is located toward the rear of the long burner. The
pilot finally lit and then I cranked up the temperature knob and voile' . .
. Bakerama!
Yippee.
Bob Kiger
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Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:53:15 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
First you have to get down on your knees with a flashlight
and look in there. You can of course just turn it on and
hope for the best, but that can get exciting.
Under neath the main part of the oven you will see a big
main burner. It may look like a sort of razor clam or paddle
shaped thing, and it might have visible holes or they might
be buried in a slit. This is what does the actual heating.
On my '73 Magic chef, and nearly every other gas oven I have
wrassled with, there is also another thin tube that comes in
and ends in a metal contraption that has various fins. holes
and stuff. This is the pilot light. On most ovens, this
will stay lit. Mine as an indicator for OFF and then next to
it PILOT OFF. The first just sends gas to the pilot light
and the second kills the gas to the pilot light. If I leave
the pilot light lit, when I want to use the oven, I just
turn up the dial to the temp I want and soon there is a nice
whoosh.
In this pilot light contraption are thermal switches that
turn the gas off if the pilot light blows out, and more to
the point, one that must get hot before the gas will go to
the main burner.
If all goes well, you kneel, light the butane stick, hold it
near the pilot light and turn the gas on. The tiny pilot
light will burn blue for a while and then the thermal switch
will allow the gas to go to the main burner, which the pilot
light is waiting to ignite.
Now then, if you have a horrid old stove, I would think it a
good idea to get a gas stove guy to take a look at it. If,
for example, the main burner is rusted away, you may get
what sounds like a dragon in there. And if critters are
living in any of the tubes it might be exciting too. You may
also have a stove that doesn't have a pilot light and need
to light the main burner directly.
If you have your lighter lit before you turn the gas on, it
is generally more of a dignified proceeding.
As always, If I have mispoke, let's hear it.
Daisy
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:57:57 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
Daisy . . . Daisy . . . give me your answer, do!
I did exactly as you said and it works perfectly. My stove looks like brand
new. Not one stain in the oven. Probably because former owners didn't know
how to start it:)
I turned up the gas valve under the top burners, specifically the valve that
determines pilot gas pressure. Got a good blue flame that turned yellow and
then came forward, down the burner to the front of the oven. Let it run for
a while and then turned it off.
But the pilot wouldn't go off . . . it stayed lit, and the outside was warm.
So I have to turn down the pilot gas pressure before lighting the pilot. No
big deal. Today was the first time that I have tried it in almost 5 years.
Thanks again
Bob Kiger
Oceanside, CA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daisy Welch [mailto:jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:53 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
>
>
> First you have to get down on your knees with a flashlight
> and look in there. You can of course just turn it on and
> hope for the best, but that can get exciting.
>
> Under neath the main part of the oven you will see a big
> main burner. It may look like a sort of razor clam or paddle
> shaped thing, and it might have visible holes or they might
> be buried in a slit. This is what does the actual heating.
> On my '73 Magic chef, and nearly every other gas oven I have
> wrassled with, there is also another thin tube that comes in
> and ends in a metal contraption that has various fins. holes
> and stuff. This is the pilot light. On most ovens, this
> will stay lit. Mine as an indicator for OFF and then next to
> it PILOT OFF. The first just sends gas to the pilot light
> and the second kills the gas to the pilot light. If I leave
> the pilot light lit, when I want to use the oven, I just
> turn up the dial to the temp I want and soon there is a nice
> whoosh.
>
> In this pilot light contraption are thermal switches that
> turn the gas off if the pilot light blows out, and more to
> the point, one that must get hot before the gas will go to
> the main burner.
>
> If all goes well, you kneel, light the butane stick, hold it
> near the pilot light and turn the gas on. The tiny pilot
> light will burn blue for a while and then the thermal switch
> will allow the gas to go to the main burner, which the pilot
> light is waiting to ignite.
>
> Now then, if you have a horrid old stove, I would think it a
> good idea to get a gas stove guy to take a look at it. If,
> for example, the main burner is rusted away, you may get
> what sounds like a dragon in there. And if critters are
> living in any of the tubes it might be exciting too. You may
> also have a stove that doesn't have a pilot light and need
> to light the main burner directly.
>
> If you have your lighter lit before you turn the gas on, it
> is generally more of a dignified proceeding.
>
> As always, If I have mispoke, let's hear it.
>
> Daisy
>
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:14:54 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
Bob,
Check your oven temp control valve, and see if it has a "pilot off"
position, far to the left. Mine does, and that's how I turn it all off.
Roger
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:57 PM
Subject: RE: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
> Daisy . . . Daisy . . . give me your answer, do!
>
> I did exactly as you said and it works perfectly. My stove looks like
> brand
> new. Not one stain in the oven. Probably because former owners didn't
> know
> how to start it:)
>
> I turned up the gas valve under the top burners, specifically the valve
> that
> determines pilot gas pressure. Got a good blue flame that turned yellow
> and
> then came forward, down the burner to the front of the oven. Let it run
> for
> a while and then turned it off.
>
> But the pilot wouldn't go off . . . it stayed lit, and the outside was
> warm.
> So I have to turn down the pilot gas pressure before lighting the pilot.
> No
> big deal. Today was the first time that I have tried it in almost 5 years.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Bob Kiger
> Oceanside, CA
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daisy Welch [mailto:jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:53 PM
>> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>> Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
>>
>>
>> First you have to get down on your knees with a flashlight
>> and look in there. You can of course just turn it on and
>> hope for the best, but that can get exciting.
>>
>> Under neath the main part of the oven you will see a big
>> main burner. It may look like a sort of razor clam or paddle
>> shaped thing, and it might have visible holes or they might
>> be buried in a slit. This is what does the actual heating.
>> On my '73 Magic chef, and nearly every other gas oven I have
>> wrassled with, there is also another thin tube that comes in
>> and ends in a metal contraption that has various fins. holes
>> and stuff. This is the pilot light. On most ovens, this
>> will stay lit. Mine as an indicator for OFF and then next to
>> it PILOT OFF. The first just sends gas to the pilot light
>> and the second kills the gas to the pilot light. If I leave
>> the pilot light lit, when I want to use the oven, I just
>> turn up the dial to the temp I want and soon there is a nice
>> whoosh.
>>
>> In this pilot light contraption are thermal switches that
>> turn the gas off if the pilot light blows out, and more to
>> the point, one that must get hot before the gas will go to
>> the main burner.
>>
>> If all goes well, you kneel, light the butane stick, hold it
>> near the pilot light and turn the gas on. The tiny pilot
>> light will burn blue for a while and then the thermal switch
>> will allow the gas to go to the main burner, which the pilot
>> light is waiting to ignite.
>>
>> Now then, if you have a horrid old stove, I would think it a
>> good idea to get a gas stove guy to take a look at it. If,
>> for example, the main burner is rusted away, you may get
>> what sounds like a dragon in there. And if critters are
>> living in any of the tubes it might be exciting too. You may
>> also have a stove that doesn't have a pilot light and need
>> to light the main burner directly.
>>
>> If you have your lighter lit before you turn the gas on, it
>> is generally more of a dignified proceeding.
>>
>> As always, If I have mispoke, let's hear it.
>>
>> Daisy
>>
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:28:09 -0800
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
My oven temperature knob is a red, Harper - All Temp althought the unit is a
Magic Chef. There is an OFF position but nothing that says "Pilot Off".
Thanks for helping,
Bob Kiger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Hightower [mailto:rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:15 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Check your oven temp control valve, and see if it has a "pilot off"
> position, far to the left. Mine does, and that's how I turn it all off.
>
> Roger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:57 PM
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
>
>
> > Daisy . . . Daisy . . . give me your answer, do!
> >
> > I did exactly as you said and it works perfectly. My stove looks like
> > brand
> > new. Not one stain in the oven. Probably because former owners didn't
> > know
> > how to start it:)
> >
> > I turned up the gas valve under the top burners, specifically the valve
> > that
> > determines pilot gas pressure. Got a good blue flame that
> turned yellow
> > and
> > then came forward, down the burner to the front of the oven.
> Let it run
> > for
> > a while and then turned it off.
> >
> > But the pilot wouldn't go off . . . it stayed lit, and the outside was
> > warm.
> > So I have to turn down the pilot gas pressure before lighting
> the pilot.
> > No
> > big deal. Today was the first time that I have tried it in
> almost 5 years.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Bob Kiger
> > Oceanside, CA
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Daisy Welch [mailto:jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:53 PM
> >> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> >> Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
> >>
> >>
> >> First you have to get down on your knees with a flashlight
> >> and look in there. You can of course just turn it on and
> >> hope for the best, but that can get exciting.
> >>
> >> Under neath the main part of the oven you will see a big
> >> main burner. It may look like a sort of razor clam or paddle
> >> shaped thing, and it might have visible holes or they might
> >> be buried in a slit. This is what does the actual heating.
> >> On my '73 Magic chef, and nearly every other gas oven I have
> >> wrassled with, there is also another thin tube that comes in
> >> and ends in a metal contraption that has various fins. holes
> >> and stuff. This is the pilot light. On most ovens, this
> >> will stay lit. Mine as an indicator for OFF and then next to
> >> it PILOT OFF. The first just sends gas to the pilot light
> >> and the second kills the gas to the pilot light. If I leave
> >> the pilot light lit, when I want to use the oven, I just
> >> turn up the dial to the temp I want and soon there is a nice
> >> whoosh.
> >>
> >> In this pilot light contraption are thermal switches that
> >> turn the gas off if the pilot light blows out, and more to
> >> the point, one that must get hot before the gas will go to
> >> the main burner.
> >>
> >> If all goes well, you kneel, light the butane stick, hold it
> >> near the pilot light and turn the gas on. The tiny pilot
> >> light will burn blue for a while and then the thermal switch
> >> will allow the gas to go to the main burner, which the pilot
> >> light is waiting to ignite.
> >>
> >> Now then, if you have a horrid old stove, I would think it a
> >> good idea to get a gas stove guy to take a look at it. If,
> >> for example, the main burner is rusted away, you may get
> >> what sounds like a dragon in there. And if critters are
> >> living in any of the tubes it might be exciting too. You may
> >> also have a stove that doesn't have a pilot light and need
> >> to light the main burner directly.
> >>
> >> If you have your lighter lit before you turn the gas on, it
> >> is generally more of a dignified proceeding.
> >>
> >> As always, If I have mispoke, let's hear it.
> >>
> >> Daisy
> >>
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Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:16:51 -0500
From: joepatwink@xxxxxxxxxx.net (Joe Winkler)
Subject: [VAL] starting an =?ISO-8859-1?B?oG92ZW4=?=
We have shut off the burner pilots because its easier to light them with a butane
fireplace lighter. The oven pilot we use because as someone already has said, you
have to keep the thermocouple hot for the oven to release the gas to the burner.
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:32:42 -0700
From: "Forrest McClure" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
Bob,
I likely have the exact same Magic Chef range as you, since I also have a
'66, but we use our range all the time. Lift the stove top open, under it,
on the left (most likely) will be a valve, turn the handle so that it is 90
degrees to the gas pipe and that will shut off all gas to the range, and
will turn off your oven pilot light. That is the position it should always
be in while traveling, on the move, or in storage since when the handle in
down, parallel to the gas pipe there will be gas going to the stovetop's
pilot light as well as the oven pilot light. Likewise there is a smaller
handle valve near the front, under the stove top, that works the same way
and it independently turns on the gas to and from the oven pilot light. The
range is potentially dangerous because if you forget to close the valves,
and don't shut off the gas at the LPG bottles then they will continuously
leak gas into the interior of your coach, unless of course they are lit.
Although it is unlikely that you would forget to turn off all three valves
there is also the possibility that a pilot light might go out either from
air in the line or from misadjustment. So, the best thing is to always lift
the lid of the stovetop and shut off the main or larger valve there whenever
you are finished using the range. The reason I've gone into this in detail
is that you said you prefer to light the burners individually with a lighter
instead of letting the pilot light do it, well if that is what you want to
do, just be sure that the adjustment screw in the valve to the stovetop
pilot light is screwed down all the way so as to shut off all gas to it.
This is as clear as mud, isn't it? Perhaps this is something that should be
demonstrated at our next Rocky Mt. VAC rally?
Forrest
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
> My oven temperature knob is a red, Harper - All Temp althought the unit is
a
> Magic Chef. There is an OFF position but nothing that says "Pilot Off".
>
> Thanks for helping,
> Bob Kiger
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Hightower [mailto:rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:15 PM
> > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Check your oven temp control valve, and see if it has a "pilot off"
> > position, far to the left. Mine does, and that's how I turn it all off.
> >
> > Roger
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cruiserbob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:57 PM
> > Subject: RE: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
> >
> >
> > > Daisy . . . Daisy . . . give me your answer, do!
> > >
> > > I did exactly as you said and it works perfectly. My stove looks like
> > > brand
> > > new. Not one stain in the oven. Probably because former owners didn't
> > > know
> > > how to start it:)
> > >
> > > I turned up the gas valve under the top burners, specifically the
valve
> > > that
> > > determines pilot gas pressure. Got a good blue flame that
> > turned yellow
> > > and
> > > then came forward, down the burner to the front of the oven.
> > Let it run
> > > for
> > > a while and then turned it off.
> > >
> > > But the pilot wouldn't go off . . . it stayed lit, and the outside was
> > > warm.
> > > So I have to turn down the pilot gas pressure before lighting
> > the pilot.
> > > No
> > > big deal. Today was the first time that I have tried it in
> > almost 5 years.
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > >
> > > Bob Kiger
> > > Oceanside, CA
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Daisy Welch [mailto:jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:53 PM
> > >> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [VAL] Back to Magic Chef
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> First you have to get down on your knees with a flashlight
> > >> and look in there. You can of course just turn it on and
> > >> hope for the best, but that can get exciting.
> > >>
> > >> Under neath the main part of the oven you will see a big
> > >> main burner. It may look like a sort of razor clam or paddle
> > >> shaped thing, and it might have visible holes or they might
> > >> be buried in a slit. This is what does the actual heating.
> > >> On my '73 Magic chef, and nearly every other gas oven I have
> > >> wrassled with, there is also another thin tube that comes in
> > >> and ends in a metal contraption that has various fins. holes
> > >> and stuff. This is the pilot light. On most ovens, this
> > >> will stay lit. Mine as an indicator for OFF and then next to
> > >> it PILOT OFF. The first just sends gas to the pilot light
> > >> and the second kills the gas to the pilot light. If I leave
> > >> the pilot light lit, when I want to use the oven, I just
> > >> turn up the dial to the temp I want and soon there is a nice
> > >> whoosh.
> > >>
> > >> In this pilot light contraption are thermal switches that
> > >> turn the gas off if the pilot light blows out, and more to
> > >> the point, one that must get hot before the gas will go to
> > >> the main burner.
> > >>
> > >> If all goes well, you kneel, light the butane stick, hold it
> > >> near the pilot light and turn the gas on. The tiny pilot
> > >> light will burn blue for a while and then the thermal switch
> > >> will allow the gas to go to the main burner, which the pilot
> > >> light is waiting to ignite.
> > >>
> > >> Now then, if you have a horrid old stove, I would think it a
> > >> good idea to get a gas stove guy to take a look at it. If,
> > >> for example, the main burner is rusted away, you may get
> > >> what sounds like a dragon in there. And if critters are
> > >> living in any of the tubes it might be exciting too. You may
> > >> also have a stove that doesn't have a pilot light and need
> > >> to light the main burner directly.
> > >>
> > >> If you have your lighter lit before you turn the gas on, it
> > >> is generally more of a dignified proceeding.
> > >>
> > >> As always, If I have mispoke, let's hear it.
> > >>
> > >> Daisy
> > >>
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