VAL Digest V2 #169

VAL Digest          Friday, February 25 2005          Volume 02 : Number 169




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] Dometic Penguin A/C
[VAL] RE: question about curtain and window parts
Re: [VAL] Dometic Penguin A/C
Re: [VAL] RE: question about curtain and window parts
Re: [VAL] question about curtain and window parts
[VAL] Trip to Scaly Mountain NC
Re: [VAL] Silver Streaks...
Re: [VAL] Planning a trip to Yellowstone?
Re: [VAL] Planning a trip to Yellowstone?
[VAL] Silver Streak information
Re: [VAL] Dometic Penguin A/C

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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:54:58 -0700
From: "Forrest McClure" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dometic Penguin A/C

I have just about finished installing a Dometic Penguin A/C on my '66 Globe
Trotter. On the outside I used a drip pan that conforms to the curvature of
the roof, but on the inside the air box is designed for a flat ceiling and
doesn't conform to the curvature. Is there an adaptor I can buy that fits
between the ceiling and airbox so that it fits properly?

Forrest

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:06:03 -0800
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] RE: question about curtain and window parts

No replacements seem to be available and the newer slides are a
different size, but here's how to fix any you have:
http://vintageairstream.com/Myrtle/sliders.html

The arm sliders are available from many Airstream dealers, or you can
make your own:
http://vintageairstream.com/rr_topics_windowoperators.html


Best of luck,
RJ

> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:30:44 EST
> From: Vettenut1972@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] question about curtain and window parts
>
> I have a 1961 tradewind and need help with obtaining parts. I
> need the tabs
> that slide in the small "C" channel that sew to the curtain
> material. Also I
> need a few of the small nylon? sliders that go in the hehr
> windows, the ones
> that go in the ends of the arms of the openers. It looks like
> they were one piece
> that folded around the arm and went through the hole. There
> is a spring that
> goes between the sides when they are folded together to keep
> them snug in the
> window frame track. Any help would be appreciated, Phil

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:26:51 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dometic Penguin A/C

You would think one would be available since these is the same AC used by
Airstream.
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Forrest McClure" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
 Is there an adaptor I can buy that fits
> between the ceiling and airbox so that it fits properly?

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:44:00 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: question about curtain and window parts

RJ, what a great site with wonderful pictures and well organized restoration
data.

Don Hardman
1976 31' Sovereign

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:06 AM
Subject: [VAL] RE: question about curtain and window parts


> No replacements seem to be available and the newer slides are a
> different size, but here's how to fix any you have:
> http://vintageairstream.com/Myrtle/sliders.html
>
> The arm sliders are available from many Airstream dealers, or you can
> make your own:
> http://vintageairstream.com/rr_topics_windowoperators.html
>
>
> Best of luck,
> RJ

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:44:01 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] question about curtain and window parts

Curtain sliders are available in several sizes and shapes from good RV dealers 
and from shops that make curtains and drapes. The prices and selection are 
better in the catalogs at the drapery shops. It almost takes ordering samples to 
learn the sizes to see if they fit.

The Webster City RV catalog I have in my lap (www.webstercityrv.com) calls 
them "window carriers." They have in packs of 14:
A110, Cord Draw Carrier $6.49
A102 large Sliding eye carrier $3.19
A103 Small Sliding eye carrier $3.19
A101 two wheel carrier $3.19
A109 Two Wheel carrier with hook $4.49
A108 Small sew in carrier $3.59
A107 Large Sew in carrier $7.99
A106 Overhead snap carrier $5.99
A104 Snap Carrier $3.89
A105 Internal Snap Carrier $3.89
A111 "Airstream" drape carrier $4.49
Plus A118 Camper tabs, 12 for $2.99. These are maker's numbers from RV Designer 
Collection which includes tracks and stops and stuff.

Sometimes the drapery shop catalogs will have engineering drawings with 
dimensions to the nearest .001" and far better prices.

Gerald J.


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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:44:54 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Trip to Scaly Mountain NC

    Hello all
    Our recent trip to Scaly Mountain NC was great. We stayed at the River
Vista campground in Dillard GA, which is a short 10 minute drive to Scaly.
Couldn't find a campground in Scaly since it's a very small place. They have a
small ski area which was open for tubing only and they have a BP station.
Tubing cost $15 per person for 2 hours. The kids loved it! Sky Valley is close
by too, but they are closed for renovations, new owners. Sapphire Valley in
Cashiers NC is about 30-45 minutes and they had the ski slopes open. It's
nicer than Scaly Mountain, but more crowded and expensive.
    As for other campgrounds in the area we drove thru Black Rock Mountain
State Park, Georgia's highest State Park. The campground was pretty nice,
W/E/Cable. Sites are pretty level w/gravel awesome views, some you would have
to watch your step when opening the awning, not that you'd want to block the
view but to just get a picture of your rig parked there. Very quite and
scenic.
    Tallulah Gorge State Park is just down the road about 15-20 minute drive.
The campground was open but no host during winter months, someone comes by
around 9-10 A.M. to collect envolepes/registration from the drop box and pick
up trash and clean facilities. The center row was the only ones with water
turned one, but all have W/Elec. This one also has more stuff for the kids to
do. The Swinging Bridge is a must do as is going to the gorge floor.
    Some of the other campgrounds:
    Dillard RV Park- $15.00 per night W/E/S/CTV also has some nice sites for
over nighters. There are permanent residents in it too. We drove thru at night
and couldn't see well enough to park in a site away from the resident. Hard to
get around in.
    River Campground- Didn't drive thru, saw it from the road passing by.
Looks interesting since it's along the river. They have covered shelters that
you park your rig under. Our trip it rained and cut it short, maybe should
have stayed here.
    Mountain City RV park- Also has a mobile home store.
    There is another one called (I think) Tallulah River Valley RV Resort. It
was closed and looks like they are redoing it or was just closed for the
winter. We put this one in our places to go this summer. Looks like lots of
stuff for the kids to do and the stream/river was fantastic view, looked liked
some of the sites are right on it close enough to stand in while getting the
power cord out of the trunk on my '73 Ambassador.
    Over all it was a great trip, which all camping trips are even if it does
rain. The kids still got to enjoy playing in the snow and we all had fun. When
the rain came we headed back South. We stopped in Andersonville GA. For you
Civil War buffs you'd like this. The Andersonville prison and POW Museum is
across the street from the town. We've been before but not to the town or with
our camper. Woodall's said they have a campground and yes there is one. It's
about 40 sites W/E/S/CTV $15.00 per night.
The sites are very close together and not laid out very well. Fortunately
there were only 4 other campers there, that look like they stay there full
time, and we had our pick of the remaining sites. There's no fire rings at the
sites, probably because they are so close together, but there is a fire pit or
two in the tent area. No tenters either. The kids loved this place. Nice field
located between two small cemeteries with a small hill for them to run down.
There is an old church that was built in 1927 that my wife and her sister
wanted to see, it was closed but the woman at the welcome center/city hall
gave them the key (a large skeleton key) so we could go in and see it. There
are several things in the town worth seeing, in October they have a
reenactment battle and a lot of visitors for it. We may go back for this.

Hope you enjoy the info.
Take care
Bobby Gill
Valdosta, GA

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:45:11 -0500
From: <pcfranke@xxxxxxxxxx.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Silver Streaks...

Must be the weather.  Saw a Silver Streak for sale in a lot along TX-36 on the south 
side of Bellville just past the intersection with TX-159.   
Didn't stop, but it looked pretty clean on the drive-by.

                -- Lew #4239

'72 Safari
Luxuriating in Brenham

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:54:00 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Planning a trip to Yellowstone?

Brian
Posted that in Scaly Mountain trip.
What part of NC are you in?
Bobby
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  i want to hear about Scaly mountain... I live in NC

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:19:05 -0700
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Planning a trip to Yellowstone?

Hi Bobby,

I live 45 miles from Yellowstone National Park.  And have camped in the Park
many times over the course of my lifetime.  While we have many favorite
places in and around the Park, I would have to say that the finest camping
is actually in Teton National Park adjacent to YNP.  You can park your
Airstream there and drive throughout the region.  Several campgrounds in
GTNP are Signal Mountain Campground, Coulter Bay and any of the Park Service
campgrounds nearby would be great.  All located around Jackson Lake and
provide wondrous views of the Teton Mountain Range.

In the Tetons June is for rain, July is for wild flowers, August is for
fishing and September is for camping!  In September there is less traffic,
lots of animals and cool, clear nights.  If you are a star gazer this is for
you.  We have viewed the aura borealis over the Tetons in August--nothing
more spectacular than that!

In YNP the campgrounds near Yellowstone Lake are nice, Bay Bridge CG and
Fishing Bridge CG.  Then there is Mammoth CG, Pebble Creek and others.

Still Grand Teton NP provides the most spectacular views. You can always
find animal watching---as mentioned by the others.  Buffalo, grizzly, black
bears, otters, rocky mountain sheep and many other species too numerous to
mention all reside within the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem.

Then you need to depart over Bear Tooth Pass.  I recently pulled the
Globetrotter over that way and was stopped at the summit by a lady who had
filmed the GT all the way, needless  to say she sent me numerous photos  of
that spectacular region and our little trailer negotiating the curves
through snow fields, sleet, rain and sunshine!

Good luck and happy trails!
Gerald Shippen

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:55:16 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Silver Streak information

Here is the latest information from Ben Harper in respect to his Grandfather's
Silver Streak inventory, as he posted it on my website, at:
http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/discus/messages/2/237.html

- -Tom

_____________________________________________________________________________

 Hello All,

I just wanted to let everyone know that I will be traveling for the next
several weeks and that I will complete the task of creating an inventory
listing upon my return.

I have settled on a process for liquidating the inventory. I am setting up a
website, which should be up and running by 3/20/2005, called
www.vintagestreak.com

The site will have digital photo's of all the inventory, oem part number of
the part, quantities and a base price. I have taken everyones recommendations
into consideration and have decided on the following as the best course of
action and process.

Large quantity items will have a fixed price per item.
Low quantity items will be place in a bid pool (auction style) highest bidder
in a assigned time frame gets the part.

Rare - unobtainable original stock - aluminum section cuts, axles, brake
magnets, etc will be split, as indicated before, into lots. 50% for
restoration companies 50% for individual purchase. These items will also go
into a bid pool. Individuals will be limited to a quantity number, and
restorers will not be allowed to bid on the individual pool items. I am
working on a way to insure that these rules will be adhered to.

Documents, Drawings, Spec Sheets, MFG Construction / Repair Manuals, Owners
Manuals, and Appliances will also be sold. But one copy of every document will
be donated to the following sources / individuals for preservation and
sharing. Tom Patterson, Juergen Eichermueller, RV Museum & Hall of Fame in
Elkhart, IN., as well as I will keep a copy for historical preservation. As I
stated before there are thousands of design plans, spec sheets, and Owner and
MFG manuals so I believe that there will be enough to go around.

I hope that the process I have selected meets with most everyones agreement.

I would also like to let everyone know that the money that they spend on these
parts will be going to a good cause. I have decided to donate all of the
proceeds to charity. American Cancer Society in my Grandmothers name and
Children Hosipital Systems in my Grandfathers name. This is something I know
they would appreciate.

So again I would like to thank all of you for your suggestion, as well as
thank you in advance for your patronage.

Sincerely
Benjamin Z Harper

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:42:26 -0700
From: "Forrest McClure" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dometic Penguin A/C

I also wrote to Oasis RV in Tucson about this and here is their reply:

There is not an adapter made to do this.You can take up the gap by either
shaving off the corners of the ceiling assy. or add on some foam vent gasket
and a white trim along the upper edge of the assy. Please call parts at
800-658-5863 or 520-889-6361 if we can help.
Thank you,
Ricky Bunnell-parts mgr.

I don't know that Airstream would be of any help since today's Airstreams
have a flatter roof than the ones made in '66. I know I've looked at the
ceiling assy. installed in current Airstreams and there is no adapter or
modification whatever.

I have thought that the only thing I can do is to shave the sides and
corners down, but would like to know what others in the group have done.

Forrest

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