VAL Digest V2 #143

VAL Digest          Sunday, January 30 2005          Volume 02 : Number 143




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] WBCCI # 56
[VAL] The List: Is it dying?
Re: [VAL] The List: Is it dying?
Re: [VAL] The List: Is it dying?
[VAL] Furnace fixed!
Re: [VAL] Furnace fixed!
Re: [VAL] Furnace fixed!
Re: [VAL] Florida campgrounds
[VAL] Window question

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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:27:32 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] WBCCI # 56

When I first got the trailer I did not have a digital camera and all of the
before pictures were taken with a regular camera. I am going try in get some
scanned. I do have some after pictures posted at
http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/albums.php

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Brown" <BBrown3996@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] WBCCI # 56


> Don, do you have any before and after pictures  you could share with us?
>
> thanks!
> Brian
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] WBCCI # 56
>
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <estatewagons@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> >
> >
> >> One of the saddest Airstreams to show up on e-Bay - >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50063&item=4522953518&rd=1
> >
> > So true. When you look at something like this you wonder how could this
> > have
> > happened. The truth of the matter is, with very little exception, no
other
> > brand of vintage trailer could last through the abuse and lack of care
> > that
> > a large number of Airstreams have made it through. I have said before
that
> > I
> > did not buy my 1976 Sovereign, I rescued it back in 2000, it was a mess.
> > After I got it home I found a lot of old papers and post cards from the
> > first two owners who traveled across the country and I believe both were
> > WBCCI members. I even found in a thrash bag stuck in the closet the
> > remains
> > of WBCCI International rally stickers from 1983 to 1989 that I believe
was
> > from the trailers 2nd owners. I now have these stickers along with some
> > other rally stickers framed hanging on my wall. I think the trailer
> > changed
> > hands again around 1990 and went through a ten year dark period in
> > Harlingen, TX on a dirt lot before being pulled up to Dallas where I
found
> > it 2000. This was a "deer camp" about to happen if I would not have come
> > along when I did.
> >
> > I don't know the history of the old trooper, but if know it probably had
a
> > very good beginning with original owners who I am sure proudly attended
> > WBCCI rallies and events. But as happened before and will happen, these
> > old
> > Airstreams just keep on going way past their human owners. So I would
bet
> > that this little trailer was passed from one owner to another until the
> > lack
> > of care and maintenance relegated it to nothing more than a shelter to
> > live
> > in. Even in as bad of shape as it is, it could be rescued and with time,
> > patience and money brought back to life. Sad
> >
> > Don Hardman
> >
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:54:41 -0600
From: "J. Anderson" <janderson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] The List: Is it dying?

Seems like it's fading away...Dick Parins, Dick Kenan, Tiger Bob, Jim 
Greene, Elisa, Jim Dunmyer, Terry Tyler...and the late great Bill 
Scott...where are ye all now when we need thee?

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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:09:08 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] The List: Is it dying?

What brought this on.

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. Anderson" <janderson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
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Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: [VAL] The List: Is it dying?


> Seems like it's fading away...Dick Parins, Dick Kenan, Tiger Bob, Jim 
> Greene, Elisa, Jim Dunmyer, Terry Tyler...and the late great Bill 
> Scott...where are ye all now when we need thee?
> 
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:43:50 -0500
From: "Brian Brown" <BBrown3996@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] The List: Is it dying?

cold weather?
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
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Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] The List: Is it dying?


> What brought this on.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J. Anderson" <janderson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 5:54 PM
> Subject: [VAL] The List: Is it dying?
> 
> 
>> Seems like it's fading away...Dick Parins, Dick Kenan, Tiger Bob, Jim 
>> Greene, Elisa, Jim Dunmyer, Terry Tyler...and the late great Bill 
>> Scott...where are ye all now when we need thee?
>> 
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:48:34 -0500
From: "Brian Brown" <BBrown3996@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Furnace fixed!

Ok , this is my last post on this , I promise..LOL


I finally got the furnace pulled out.. (there's always on screw holding 
everything, as  you yank and pull thinking its just 30years of ageing in 
place)

I found Mud dobbers all inside the furnace combustion fan, and inside the 
heat exchanger... that fine Carolina red clay got into the motor shaft and 
make it squeel like a fan belt slipping...

Got it all cleaned out, sprayed some CRC on the shaft.. cleaned some more.. 
put it all back together.. and it runs soooooooooooooooooooooooo smooth... 
whisper quite... Now were talking...lol

24 degrees outside... and 85 degrees inside... got to love it!

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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:07:33 -0600
From: "J. Anderson" <janderson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Furnace fixed!

Way to go, Brian.  Did you have the heat exchanger checked out while the 
furnace is out?  I don't know if there is a good reliable layman's 
technique for finding leaks; maybe putting a bright light inside, with 
the furnace in a darkened room, or some such??  Odds are, with a furnace 
that old...they all will eventually fail, and the question is, how do 
you discover that it's failed?  Hence the recent thread on CO 
detectors--but that's not the effective early warning system you want.

Even though I generally am comfortable and capable working on stuff like 
furnaces, I tend to gravitate to paying someone who does it all the 
time, just to be on the safe side.  Although last summer, when I pulled 
out my furnace when rebuilding the galley, I took the furnace in to a 
local "reputable" furnace shop to give it a good cleaning and PM; and 
upon picking it up and paying the $30 fee, discovered two large wasp 
nests still inside the air intake!  So much for trusting the experts--at 
least "those" experts.

John

Brian Brown wrote:

> Got it all cleaned out, sprayed some CRC on the shaft.. cleaned some 
> more.. put it all back together.. and it runs 
> soooooooooooooooooooooooo smooth... whisper quite... Now were 
> talking...lol

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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:25:46 -0500
From: "Brian Brown" <BBrown3996@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Furnace fixed!

Well the blower assembly looks Brand new, and the heat exhchanger shows VERY 
little wear... I am totally shocked at how good a shape all the things are 
on this 30 year old unit.  It's like it was in storage all that time...

I do believe the orginal owners had it under shelter for 23 of those 30 
years.

I got lucky... I found a good one.. mud dobbers and wasp are not considered 
a wear item..lol   IF the person that replaced the blower motor assembly had 
of put the outside screen back in.. i wouldn't have had any problems. 

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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:34:06 -0500
From: John Dorsey <jrdorsey@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Florida campgrounds

Gary,
You might try Highlands Hammock state park in Sebring, Its about 70 
miles east of Sarasota.


> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:04:24 -0500
> From: Gary <verygary@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Florida campgrounds
>
> Thanks to Chaplain Kent for the led on ReserveaAmerica reservation
> service. I did find that the southeast map on the Florida Parks site 
> was
> the one I was looking for and just did not recognize where the Sarasota
> (was not listed) was on that map. It helps to look at a real map first 
> I
> suppose. I also did try to find available sites at the Oscar Scherer
> Park, the Myakka River Park and Little Manatee River Park. All four had
> no sites available in the four days before the Florida State Rally. 
> That
> started to concern me a bit. Checking north at Topsail, Henderson and
> St. Marks seemed to had plenty of sites open. I am showing around 480
> miles from the Destin area to the Sarasota area. I realize it is
> becoming obvious that I do not know much about Florida and am surprised
> about it's size. Next thing will be to find a campground more in the 
> 250
> to 300 mile range from Sarasota. Probably would help not to try and
> navigate reservation sites after 11 o'clock in the evening to stay
> focused. I am still open to other suggestions including private
> campgrounds.
> Thanks
> Gary Campbell
> 1962 Safari Double #3363 'Sylvia'
> Portland, Maine

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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:08:24 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: [VAL] Window question

Hi gang,

From time to time I receive questions from members who don't have internet
access. I just got one that I wanted to pass on to ya'all. Please respond
on-list. I will print and mail any answers.

The trailer is a 1969 Overlander located in GA. Here is the question:

Maybe you can help me: Someone broke the oval fixed window that is right by
my door handle and under a push out window. My window measures 9 & 7/8 X 20
& 5/8 (or 9/16). I have talked to people in Montevallo, AL and Corona CA.
Both thought they had a window but it turned out their windows were too
small. I am now trying to order a tempered glass - take out the frame I have
and replace the glass in the original frame. Since I haven't found a window
assembly I hope this will work. Do you have some suggestions?

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