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Topics in Today's Digest:
RE: [VAL] '63 Overlander New Axle with Disc Brakes
[VAL] Another Bike Rack Solution
[VAL] Comparing Airstreams ....
[VAL] Parts for RV's
[VAL] parts for Rv's
[VAL] Texas RV service recommendation
[VAL] Airstream video and book
Re: [VAL] Airstream video and book
[VAL] Request.
Re: [VAL] Airstream video and book
Re: [VAL] '63 Overlander New Axle with Disc Brakes
[VAL] Re: surge brakes
Re: [VAL] Airstream video and book
Re: [VAL] Airstream video and book
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:06:50 -0600
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] '63 Overlander New Axle with Disc Brakes
Greetings Uwe!
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- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Uwe Salwender
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:17 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Bike rack on rear AS bumper
My future trailer projects will all receive hydraulic
disc brakes for this very reason. The discs are
naturally much better balanced, present less unsprung
weight, and deliver real world stopping power with
superb self-cooling. I just put in an order for a set
of disc brake axles for my 1963 Overlander.
I look forward to eliminating the imbalance and
clumsiness of the conventional electric brakes, and
the associated problems over time.
Best,
Uwe Salwender
Orange CA
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I will be looking forward to learning of your experiences with this
installation. My plans include the same project for my '64 Overlander
in 2006.
Good luck with the axle/disc brake installation!
Kevin
Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:52:04 -0500
From: Rick Langer <farreach@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Another Bike Rack Solution
I went through the same process of wanting to put a rack on the back of my
trailer and it was members of this list that convinced me that it wasn't
such a good idea.
My solution was to take an old Thule roof type rack and convert it (easily)
to mount into the front stake holes of my truck bed. It's the type of rack
that holds the bike by the front fork. My set up holds three adult bikes.
The bikes take up a lot of room in the bed, but you can stuff a lot of stuff
around the bikes. I also carry a large utilility box (2'x2'x4 1/2') in the
aft end of the bed (short bed) and there is still enough room for the bikes.
This system works great for me. It's easy to put the bikes in and out. And
what's really important to us is that the bikes are always with the truck.
Even though a lot of biking is done in and from the campground, there are
many times when we take the bikes to somewhere else to use them. Another
benefit is when we are not camping the rack is always on the truck, so
loading the bikes for a trip to the local bike path takes less than 5
minutes. This is my best ever bike rack solution.
If anyone wants a picture, let me know.
Rick Langer
'66 GT #3847, VAC
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:05:22 EST
From: Indy116@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Comparing Airstreams ....
Hello everyone .....Would anyone have any information,experience, or
knowledge on a comparison between an Airstream or Spartan .....thanks so much for all
those our there who are giving us the knowledge to becoming fulltimers
.....within the year .....
Mary & INDIANA
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:59:02 EST
From: Indy116@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Parts for RV's
Hello to everyone out there ....while we were surfing the web we found this
that might be helpful to those who already have a trailer and need parts
.....hope it helps someone ...We are still looking for our trailer on our way to
becoming fulltimers this year .....All assistance is appreciated ....We live in
the city of Orange, California ...thanks so much ....Click here: GO-RV.com -
RV On-line Catalog
Mary & INDIANA
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:36:42 EST
From: Indy116@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] parts for Rv's
Hello to everyone out there ....while we were surfing the web we found this
that might be helpful to those who already have a trailer and need parts
.....hope it helps someone ...We are still looking for our trailer on our way to
becoming fulltimers this year .....All assistance is appreciated ....We live in
the city of Orange, California ...thanks so much . Hope this can help someone
out there
http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalog/index?index=A&dealerId=1247
Mary & INDIANA
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:38:35 -0600
From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Texas RV service recommendation
Dear listers-
We're camped at Guadalupe State park east of Boerne, TX tonight (north
of San Antonio). Last night was chilly: our furnace went on the blink.
So job one today was to get it fixed. we first stopped at the Airstream
dealer just east of San Antonio. They were quite disinterested in
working on our 1979, and had almost no parts. They referred us to a
large RV dealer north of San Antonio- Ancira RV. A huge operation, they
also had no parts for our Suburban furnace, and wouldn't even look at
it for 3 weeks. No exceptions for full-timers.
We drove two miles further down the frontage road to Boerne RV- a small
shop right next to Alamo RV park just of Interstate 10. They got us
right in, fixed the furnace in this afternoon, were friendly and
helpful, and reasonably priced. They had another Excella in the shop-
one that had been hit by a train (not pretty..) they are rebuilding. I
wouldn't hesitate to recommend them.
Boerne RV Servicing
Ron Zinsmeister
32990 I.H. 10 west (C)
Boerne, TX 78006
(830)816-3883
Best,
Chris K.
1979 @31' Int'l Sov.
<www.koehnjourney.blogspot.com>
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:25:05 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: [VAL] Airstream video and book
A professor friend of mine is going to have his students design an interior
for a 1957 26 foot Airstream shell. He is looking for a couple of things to
help introduce the topic to his students. One is an Airstream production
video from the 70's "that goes on and on forever about the production
process". Aparently back when it sold at the Airstream store it was $10.
Second is a book he thinks is titled "Airstream" with an introduction by
Robert Cummings.
Do any of you know where he might find either of these items for use in his
class in the very near future?
Scott
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From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: spare tire
> Marc,
>
> My 1960 Overlander was ordered new with the spare tire on the rear bumper.
> It is a heavy duty welded item. So at least back then Airstream thought it
> OK. However...like Kevin, I too have had body/frame seperation. I blame it
> on a rotten wood floor at the back, but the tire did not help any either!
>
> If you choose to ignore my and Kevin Allen's advice PLEASE do not use a
> light weight bolted on tire carrier on the bumper. I was travelling behind
> him a few years back when his failed. Believe me, you don't want to be
> anywhere near a bouncing tire!
>
> Scott
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:18:03 -0800
> From: "Marc Lizer" <marclizer@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Bike Rack on A/S
>
> Would a spare tire on the rear be manageable?
>
> marc
> 57 Overlander
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:02:35 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream video and book
Scott,
I haven't a clue but if anybody does know where copies of them are, I
want a set too.......please.
Glyn
> From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:25:05 -0500
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Airstream video and book
>
> A professor friend of mine is going to have his students design an interior
> for a 1957 26 foot Airstream shell. He is looking for a couple of things to
> help introduce the topic to his students. One is an Airstream production
> video from the 70's "that goes on and on forever about the production
> process". Aparently back when it sold at the Airstream store it was $10.
>
> Second is a book he thinks is titled "Airstream" with an introduction by
> Robert Cummings.
>
> Do any of you know where he might find either of these items for use in his
> class in the very near future?
>
> Scott
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: spare tire
>
>
>> Marc,
>>
>> My 1960 Overlander was ordered new with the spare tire on the rear bumper.
>> It is a heavy duty welded item. So at least back then Airstream thought it
>> OK. However...like Kevin, I too have had body/frame seperation. I blame it
>> on a rotten wood floor at the back, but the tire did not help any either!
>>
>> If you choose to ignore my and Kevin Allen's advice PLEASE do not use a
>> light weight bolted on tire carrier on the bumper. I was travelling behind
>> him a few years back when his failed. Believe me, you don't want to be
>> anywhere near a bouncing tire!
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:18:03 -0800
>> From: "Marc Lizer" <marclizer@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>> Subject: Re: [VAL] Bike Rack on A/S
>>
>> Would a spare tire on the rear be manageable?
>>
>> marc
>> 57 Overlander
>
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:11:14 -0800
From: "Dallas Blair" <photo@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Request.
I have an Silverstreak Clipper that I would like to find the year of ,,,,,if
anyone can help me...The number on the side of trailer is 7 2586,,,Thats all
I have... It is between 1947 and 52 I think, it has owl eyes and is 22'
long..Thanks Dallas I would like to place it on line to see if anyone can
help me.....Thanks Dallas Blair photo@xxxxxxxxxx.com
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:13:14 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream video and book
Scott,
Is the video different than the first segment in the Vintage Airstream
Caravan DVD? This segment is entitled "Building Dreams is Our Business"
(1968).
Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA
http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari
Scott Scheuermann wrote:
>A professor friend of mine is going to have his students design an interior
>for a 1957 26 foot Airstream shell. He is looking for a couple of things to
>help introduce the topic to his students. One is an Airstream production
>video from the 70's "that goes on and on forever about the production
>process". Aparently back when it sold at the Airstream store it was $10.
>
>Second is a book he thinks is titled "Airstream" with an introduction by
>Robert Cummings.
>
>Do any of you know where he might find either of these items for use in his
>class in the very near future?
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:01:32 EST
From: Dillonvdill@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] '63 Overlander New Axle with Disc Brakes
Greetings,
Has anyone tried or thought of putting the old fashioned U-haul type surge
brake
hitch on the trailer tonge to operate the old fashioned hydralic brakes on
the
1950's AS's? I have a '58 26' Overlander that has the original hydralic
(non-operating) brakes and to my knowledge has not been converted to
electric.
V. Dillon
1956 Flying Coud 22'
1958 Overlander 26'
1966 Caravell 17'
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:31:32 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: surge brakes
I'm not sure about the legality of surge brakes on modern trailers. There have been
controllers that allow backing up and maybe even braking while backing. The
simple surge master cylinders didn't do that. Made for rotten backing with the
trailer brakes locked.
Some modern (and large) farm wagons now come with surge brakes. They have
added shock absorbers on the telescoping tongues to moderate braking when
the tractor speed changes abruptly.
I much prefer electric brakes though I can conceive of electric over hydraulic that
would use the modern electric brake controller to control the hydraulic brakes on
the trailer. The original hydraulic brakes planned on tapping the tow vehicle
hydraulic brake system with the loss of safety posed by breaking that flexible hose
between tow vehicle and trailer. In those days, the tow vehicle brakes were a
simpler system so adding the trailer hydraulic brakes didn't upset any balance.
Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:56:51 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream video and book
Scott -
I think I can point you in the right direction on both of these items. The
video piece was on the VAC DVD that was available a few years back. I
believe it is out of production at the moment because of compatibility
issues with all of the different DVD players on the market. The second item
is a book simply entitled 'Airstream' by Robert Landau and James Phillippi
dated 1984. I found mine at Oasis RV in Tucson several years ago.
Email me off list for add'l info.
Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT
on 1/14/05 5:25 PM, Scott Scheuermann at s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net
wrote:
> A professor friend of mine is going to have his students design an interior
> for a 1957 26 foot Airstream shell. He is looking for a couple of things to
> help introduce the topic to his students. One is an Airstream production
> video from the 70's "that goes on and on forever about the production
> process". Aparently back when it sold at the Airstream store it was $10.
>
> Second is a book he thinks is titled "Airstream" with an introduction by
> Robert Cummings.
>
> Do any of you know where he might find either of these items for use in his
> class in the very near future?
>
> Scott
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:58:19 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream video and book
Brad,
I think that you are correct, the book is available at several used book
sites for $145. It was available at Jackson Center a few years ago. It
was published by Peregrine Smith Books of Salt Lake City, now, I think,
Gibbs Smith, publisher also of Salt Lake City.
Bill Kerfoot
WBCCI/VAC #5223
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
1979 23' Airstream Safari
Orange, CA
http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Bill-Beth-1979-Safari
Brad Norgaard wrote:
>Scott -
>I think I can point you in the right direction on both of these items. The
>video piece was on the VAC DVD that was available a few years back. I
>believe it is out of production at the moment because of compatibility
>issues with all of the different DVD players on the market. The second item
>is a book simply entitled 'Airstream' by Robert Landau and James Phillippi
>dated 1984. I found mine at Oasis RV in Tucson several years ago.
>
>Email me off list for add'l info.
>
>Brad Norgaard
>Phoenix
>'59 Trade Wind Twin
>VAC #2699, TCT
>
>on 1/14/05 5:25 PM, Scott Scheuermann at s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>A professor friend of mine is going to have his students design an interior
>>for a 1957 26 foot Airstream shell. He is looking for a couple of things to
>>help introduce the topic to his students. One is an Airstream production
>>video from the 70's "that goes on and on forever about the production
>>process". Aparently back when it sold at the Airstream store it was $10.
>>
>>Second is a book he thinks is titled "Airstream" with an introduction by
>>Robert Cummings.
>>
>>Do any of you know where he might find either of these items for use in his
>>class in the very near future?
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>
>
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