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VAL Digest          Saturday, January 8 2005          Volume 02 : Number 121




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Airstream One info
[VAL] I give up....
Re: [VAL] Airstream One info
Re: [VAL] I give up....
Re: [VAL] I give up....
RE: [VAL] Airstream One info
Re: [VAL] Re: Rivet Shaver
Re: [VAL] I give up....
[VAL] Re: NY registration
[VAL] Re: shower pans
[VAL] Re: "I'm in good hands in Colorado"
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #120
Re: [VAL] Re: "I'm in good hands in Colorado"
[VAL] Re: bathtub/shower caulking
Re: [VAL] Re: NY registration
Re: [VAL] Re: NY registration
[VAL] Made in America

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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:09:19 -0800
From: Stan Nicholson <stan@xxxxxxxxxx.ucsb.edu>
Subject: [VAL] Airstream One info

Just opened the Autoweek that came in today's mail, and Dutch 
Mandel's column reports on the RVIA convention in Louisville. He 
writes: "... this $12 billion industry grew 13.5 percent last year, 
and why trend watchers say it will continue. Which suits Rickard 
"Dicky" Riegel, president and CEO of Airstream, just fine. Riegel, a 
30-something poster boy is fit and trim, stands six foot seven 
inches, and his enthusiasm about Airstream--and sports and collector 
cars--is infectious. The hip aluminum cocoon we've come to love is 
hipper with the Airstream One concept. As a joint venture with Sony, 
it has electronic measures galore: an integrated VAIO laptop, remote 
Internet-accessible security cameras, high-speed cellular Internet 
connection, oversized TVs, PlayStation, low-profile TV antennas, 
flexible solar panels and even smart window technology where with a 
switch its windows darken. Make Dicky an offer on this one-off model 
and it could by yours, but be forewarned: Airstream gets twice the 
price per foot for its trailers than do its competitors, and there's 
no telling what this high-tech toy room would fetch."

So, is this really a trailer, or a motorhome? Wonder if I can 
retrofit our '72 Overlander. . .

Stan
#3136

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:10:29 EST
From: Streamliner86@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] I give up....

OK....I give up..what is a tambour????  

Regards,
Phil
1957 Streamline  Empress

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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:05:11 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream One info

I'm drooling, do you suppose it will be at the Tampa RV show ?

If so, full report with pix coming up.

Interesting about the flexible solar panels, I've been 
wanting those, but been told by various technical types that 
they are not proven technology yet.

Can't wait, it will certainly be at International.

Daisy

Stan Nicholson wrote:

> Just opened the Autoweek that came in today's mail, and Dutch Mandel's 
> column reports on the RVIA convention in Louisville. He writes: "... 
> this $12 billion industry grew 13.5 percent last year, and why trend 
> watchers say it will continue. Which suits Rickard "Dicky" Riegel, 
> president and CEO of Airstream, just fine. Riegel, a 30-something poster 
> boy is fit and trim, stands six foot seven inches, and his enthusiasm 
> about Airstream--and sports and collector cars--is infectious. The hip 
> aluminum cocoon we've come to love is hipper with the Airstream One 
> concept. As a joint venture with Sony, it has electronic measures 
> galore: an integrated VAIO laptop, remote Internet-accessible security 
> cameras, high-speed cellular Internet connection, oversized TVs, 
> PlayStation, low-profile TV antennas, flexible solar panels and even 
> smart window technology where with a switch its windows darken. Make 
> Dicky an offer on this one-off model and it could by yours, but be 
> forewarned: Airstream gets twice the price per foot for its trailers 
> than do its competitors, and there's no telling what this high-tech toy 
> room would fetch."
> 
> So, is this really a trailer, or a motorhome? Wonder if I can retrofit 
> our '72 Overlander. . .
> 
> Stan
> #3136
> 
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:12:17 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] I give up....

It's flaxible mat of thin strips of composite or wood that 
runs in a track and rolls up out of the way. An old 
fashioned  roll top desk has a tambour.

It is used for cupboard doors on 70's trailers.

if you go here and scroll down, you can see mine.

http://home.tiac.net/~jtdjtd/aspix/floor.html

Daisy

Streamliner86@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

> OK....I give up..what is a tambour????  
> 
> Regards,
> Phil
> 1957 Streamline  Empress
> 
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:22:04 -0500
From: "Brian Brown" <BBrown3996@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] I give up....

Its like a roll top desk lid, the sliding part

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Streamliner86@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:10 AM
Subject: [VAL] I give up....


> OK....I give up..what is a tambour????  
> 
> Regards,
> Phil
> 1957 Streamline  Empress
> 
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:18:06 -0600
From: "dtidmore" <dtidmore@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Airstream One info

Daisy,
The flexible solar panels have been around for awhile. They generate less
power per surface area compared to classic rigid panels, their life
expectancy is lower and they cost less.  Now that does not mean that they
are unproven, but rather that they just have different characteristics.  You
can overcome the efficiency issue if you can install more panels, but
understand that on the A/S roof you most likely will have to use the rounded
sides of the roof to accomplish this and then you are faced with the fact
that the sun will only hit a portion of the panels at any particular time.  

Since you have installed so much LED lighting, the flexible panels might be
a good choice for your situation as you have much lower amp-hour
requirements than a rig using incandescent lighting and therefore the output
of the panels may well be in line with your typical daily battery drain.

David   

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From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
On Behalf Of Daisy Welch
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:05 AM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream One info

I'm drooling, do you suppose it will be at the Tampa RV show ?

If so, full report with pix coming up.

Interesting about the flexible solar panels, I've been 
wanting those, but been told by various technical types that 
they are not proven technology yet.

Can't wait, it will certainly be at International.

Daisy

Stan Nicholson wrote:

> Just opened the Autoweek that came in today's mail, and Dutch Mandel's 
> column reports on the RVIA convention in Louisville. He writes: "... 
> this $12 billion industry grew 13.5 percent last year, and why trend 
> watchers say it will continue. Which suits Rickard "Dicky" Riegel, 
> president and CEO of Airstream, just fine. Riegel, a 30-something poster 
> boy is fit and trim, stands six foot seven inches, and his enthusiasm 
> about Airstream--and sports and collector cars--is infectious. The hip 
> aluminum cocoon we've come to love is hipper with the Airstream One 
> concept. As a joint venture with Sony, it has electronic measures 
> galore: an integrated VAIO laptop, remote Internet-accessible security 
> cameras, high-speed cellular Internet connection, oversized TVs, 
> PlayStation, low-profile TV antennas, flexible solar panels and even 
> smart window technology where with a switch its windows darken. Make 
> Dicky an offer on this one-off model and it could by yours, but be 
> forewarned: Airstream gets twice the price per foot for its trailers 
> than do its competitors, and there's no telling what this high-tech toy 
> room would fetch."
> 
> So, is this really a trailer, or a motorhome? Wonder if I can retrofit 
> our '72 Overlander. . .
> 
> Stan
> #3136
> 
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:50:20 -0700
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Rivet Shaver

And Patti, there is always that big Q-Barn in New Mexico to work in. 
Only 5 hours from Colorado Springs.  (I forget where you will be, Boulder?)

Matt

Robert Davis wrote:

> Patricia V. Raimondo wrote:
>
>> Reality is, Colorado is going to be a lot farther away from Jackson 
>> Center than Long Island and I'm going to have to start doing the work 
>> myself!!!
>
>
> Patty,
>
> Think of your bros here in Colorado like Allstate...
> You're in good hands, we'll take care of you (and the rivets). ;-)
>
> Rob
>
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:53:16 -0500
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] I give up....

A roll-up door not unlike the roll-top desk.

Tom
WBCCI 5303

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From: <Streamliner86@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:10 AM
Subject: [VAL] I give up....


> OK....I give up..what is a tambour????  
> 
> Regards,
> Phil
> 1957 Streamline  Empress
> 
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:01:09 -0500
From: praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: [VAL] Re: NY registration

Hi Ann,

I had EXACT same problem here in NY as you have now. I took the bill of sale to 
my attorney who notorized it for me and then I drove back to the DMV and completed 
the registration! If you know your attorney well he/she will believe that your 
bill of sale is legit.

Patti

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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:08:34 -0500
From: praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: [VAL] Re: shower pans

Why do the shower pans have to stay fiberglass? Aluminum is much easier to work 
with. My shower is different then all of you will tubs because it is the floor of 
the bathroom. The plant put an aluminum pan in with sides that are caulked. Could 
that be done in a tub?

Patti

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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:17:34 -0500
From: praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: [VAL] Re: "I'm in good hands in Colorado"

Hey Rob!

You have no idea how excited I am to be moving to Colorado where I WILL have friends 
who can help me problem solve! I've had some blue moments over leaving a town where 
I'm the 4th generation of my family and leaving the ocean but I keep reminding myself 
that my quality of life will be so much better in an area where aluminum rules!!! 

Patti

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:43:19 EST
From: Indy116@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V2 #120

In a message dated 01/06/2005 10:01:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:

> http://www.tompatterson.com/gallery/Beer-Can-One-The-Koehns-1979-31- 
> Intl-Sovereign-and-N-A-tour>

Chris K.   thanks so much for displaying your 79'  Intl-Sovereign .....We are 
gathering knowledge on our journey to becoming fulltimes ...hopefully within 
the year ...if things work our properly ...  May I ask who did the restoration 
work for you and were they very expensive ... and do you have more photos of 
your shower and bathroom ....thanks so much ...
Mary & INDIANA 

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Classic White.jpg]

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:44:53 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <pattersontom@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: "I'm in good hands in Colorado"

One great resource in Colorado is the bone yard in Denver .....

Cherokee RV (near I-70 & I-25) on 5050 Humboldt, Denver, CO (303.295.3433)

They have a lot of RV parts etc. and if nothing else, are well worth touring.
I did
enjoy seeing what all they had on my one exploration trip there.
- -Tom>
> You have no idea how excited I am to be moving to Colorado where I WILL have
friends who can help me problem solve! I've had some blue moments over leaving
a town where I'm the 4th generation of my family and leaving the ocean but I
keep reminding myself that my quality of life will be so much better in an
area where aluminum rules!!!
>
> Patti

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:42:29 -0600
From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: bathtub/shower caulking

Daisy,
I agree with you- none of the elements of the work I did to our shower 
would be wise to attempt when you're living in the trailer. Ours was 
out of commission for a couple of weeks during this process.
That said, we are happy with the results, the shower functions as we'd 
hoped, and gravity has become our friend..
Best,

Chris K
<www.koehnjourney.blogspot.com>

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:32:46 -0500
From: "Myrna Warren" <uncleneal@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: NY registration

Reminds me of a story I read years ago in an antique car restoration book.
Seems a fellow had bought an old car from England, and when he went to
register it in NY, the title wasn't notarized.  It had the English
equlivilant to a notary stamp on it, but it didn't say "notary public" so
they wouldn't accept it.  No amount of explaining would suffice.  So he
found a notary in NY that would "notarize" the English signature and took it
back the next day.  The lady at DMV was just as happy as a dead pig in the
sunshine with that.  Never did occur to her to wonder how a notary in NY
could notarize a signature in England, it just had to have the magic words
on it.

Probably one of the reasons that Georgia doesn't require a notary on vehicle
titles any more.  They're just about worthless.  In fact, Georgia doesn't
even require titles on vehicles older than 1986 or trailers that weigh less
than 2,000 pounds.

Neal


Subject: [VAL] Re: NY registration


> Hi Ann,
>
> I had EXACT same problem here in NY as you have now. I took the bill of
sale to my attorney who notorized it for me and then I drove back to the DMV
and completed the registration! If you know your attorney well he/she will
believe that your bill of sale is legit.
>
> Patti

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:54:30 -0600
From: "D.L." <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: NY registration

I am a Notary in Iowa and we WILL NO Notarize anything unless We See 
the person sign it also we must check to make sure the signer is Who he 
says he is.
That is why you have a Notary.

Thank you
Dean L
612-605-7205   home
712-270-2000   cell
dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net


On Jan 7, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Myrna Warren wrote:

> Reminds me of a story I read years ago in an antique car restoration 
> book.
> Seems a fellow had bought an old car from England, and when he went to
> register it in NY, the title wasn't notarized.  It had the English
> equlivilant to a notary stamp on it, but it didn't say "notary public" 
> so
> they wouldn't accept it.  No amount of explaining would suffice.  So he
> found a notary in NY that would "notarize" the English signature and 
> took it
> back the next day.  The lady at DMV was just as happy as a dead pig in 
> the
> sunshine with that.  Never did occur to her to wonder how a notary in 
> NY
> could notarize a signature in England, it just had to have the magic 
> words
> on it.
>
> Probably one of the reasons that Georgia doesn't require a notary on 
> vehicle
> titles any more.  They're just about worthless.  In fact, Georgia 
> doesn't
> even require titles on vehicles older than 1986 or trailers that weigh 
> less
> than 2,000 pounds.
>
> Neal
>
>
> Subject: [VAL] Re: NY registration
>
>
>> Hi Ann,
>>
>> I had EXACT same problem here in NY as you have now. I took the bill 
>> of
> sale to my attorney who notorized it for me and then I drove back to 
> the DMV
> and completed the registration! If you know your attorney well he/she 
> will
> believe that your bill of sale is legit.
>>
>> Patti
>
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:57:43 -0500
From: Bob Patterson <bpatt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Made in America

For those of us who have only seen this 3 times here it is again......



John Ratzenberger's Made in America
http://tv.yahoo.com//tvpdb?d=tvs&id=166030958&lineup=us_OH34469&channels=us_TRAV&.intl=us
68 Jan 07 
08:30pm 
http://calendar.yahoo.com/?v=60&TITLE=John+Ratzenberger%27s+Made+in+America+(TRAV+68)&TYPE=22&VIEW=d&DUR=
0030&ST=20050107t203000&URL=http://tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?.src=my%26d=tvp%26lineup=us_OH34469%26channels=
us_TRAV%26id=168637535%26chspid=166030958%26chname=TRAV%2b68%26progutn=1105147800%26.intl=us&DESC=
Airstream%27s+rivets+and+aluminum%3b+Hartmann+Luggage.&.intl=us
Add to My Calendar
Series/Documentary, 30 Mins.

"Airstream"
Airstream's rivets and aluminum; Hartmann Luggage.

Original Airdate: January 13, 2004.

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