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Re: [VAL] Parts help
Re: [VAL] Parts help
[VAL] my airstream info wanted
[VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
[VAL] Re: Reese question
Re: [VAL] Re: Reese question
Re: [VAL] Re: Reese question
RE: [VAL] Re: Reese question
[VAL] Corps of Engineers
Re: [VAL] Parts help
Re: [VAL] Corps of Engineers
Re: [VAL] Re: Reese question
Re: [VAL] Corps of Engineers
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:47:44 -0600
From: "William Durkee" <bdkli@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Parts help
Glyn
Could this be what you are looking for?
http://www.inlandrv.com/parts/34727-scrfuzzyplate.jpg
Bill Durkee
1969 Sovereign
03 Ram 1500 Quad
>
>Glyn Judson wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> There appears to be some sort of missing surround piece that
>>decorates
>>the edges of the vertical slots that the window actuating arms move in.
>>On
>>my Caravel there is a definite discoloration in the vinyl clad inner skin
>>that's about 1/2" wide all the way around all the slots. If there was
>>something there, it's been systematically removed from every slot.
>>
>> Does anyone know if in fact there should be something there and if I
>>can
>>get identical replacement parts somewhere?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Glyn
>> 1969 Caravel, #508
>> Santa Monica CA
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:21:36 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Parts help
Bill,
You 'da man! I guess that's what I want. I'll call them today.
Thanks,
Glyn
> From: "William Durkee" <bdkli@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:47:44 -0600
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Parts help
>
> Glyn
>
> Could this be what you are looking for?
> http://www.inlandrv.com/parts/34727-scrfuzzyplate.jpg
>
>
> Bill Durkee
> 1969 Sovereign
> 03 Ram 1500 Quad
>
>
>
>>
>> Glyn Judson wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> There appears to be some sort of missing surround piece that
>>> decorates
>>> the edges of the vertical slots that the window actuating arms move in.
>>> On
>>> my Caravel there is a definite discoloration in the vinyl clad inner skin
>>> that's about 1/2" wide all the way around all the slots. If there was
>>> something there, it's been systematically removed from every slot.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if in fact there should be something there and if I
>>> can
>>> get identical replacement parts somewhere?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Glyn
>>> 1969 Caravel, #508
>>> Santa Monica CA
>>>
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:39:00 -0500
From: BuzzHacker@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] my airstream info wanted
Hello all-
I purchased an Airstream a couple years ago and would like to know about the owners if anyone knows them.
I can see that they attended a rally or two from stickers in the interior.
The owners names were Mike and Judy Logan from Helena MT. If anyone knows anything about
them or my Airstream i sure would like to hear form you.
Jamie Natalie and Zachary
1973 Sovereign
2000 Suburban
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:58:43 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
All,
As many of you already know, I just bought a 1969 Caravel and finally
got it into place in the back of the property this morning. I went to plug
it in to my house current and can't fine the male plug or electrical box on
the outside of the trailer. My Owners Manual has a rough illustration
showing it coming out of the left rear corner but all I can see there is a
garden hose hookup and the T-handle for dumping the head holding tank.
There is a weather proof female outlet just aft of the main door but
that's just that, a female outlet. I presume that's a tap for operating
110v appliances adjacent to the outside of the trailer.
Can anyone give me a hint as to where to look for the 110v hookup?
Thanks,
Glyn
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:29:45 -0500
From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Glyn,
I think you have the corner bath in the rear/rt side. The bed is to the
left.
The univolt is normally under that bed, left back corner. The plug/cord is
in the back bumper. But, who knows! When things are 35 years old,
changes are sure to be made.
Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270
70 23' LY
66 Overlander
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
>
> Can anyone give me a hint as to where to look for the 110v hookup?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glyn
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:39:56 -0600
From: Dean <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Find your fuse panel, Look for the heavy black cord, Follow it
to the cord storage location. It should be along with the
sewer drain hose in your back bumper area.
Thank you
Dean L.
866-206-5962
On Dec 15, 2003, at 12:58 PM, Glyn Judson wrote:
All,
As many of you already know, I just bought a 1969 Caravel and
finally
got it into place in the back of the property this morning. I went to
plug
it in to my house current and can't fine the male plug or electrical
box on
the outside of the trailer. My Owners Manual has a rough illustration
showing it coming out of the left rear corner but all I can see there
is a
garden hose hookup and the T-handle for dumping the head holding tank.
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:40:14 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
In my '68 Caravel, the power inlet (as well as water inlet) are inside
the left storage compartment. There's a fitting at the bottom just like
a drain fitting with a cap to pass the hose and power cord. The power
cord is wired to the main panel at the rear of that compartment and is
run out the bottom through that drain fitting. 120 volts 30 amp plug on
a fairly substantial cord nearly an inch in diameter.
Gerald J.
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:49:03 -0800
From: "michelle" <safoocat@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Our hookup cord was in the storage box on the rear bumper.
Michelle
What the heart once owned and
had, it shall never lose.
~Henry Ward Beecher~
Can anyone give me a hint as to where to look for the 110v hookup?
Thanks,
Glyn
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:01:22 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
Dean, Gerald, Paul and Michelle,
Thanks for all the willing help. I feel like such a bonehead. There
was the massive cord (you weren't kidding Gerald) resting in the back bumper
alongside the sewer hose. It's now plugged in and the refrigerator is
cooling down as I write this.
One by one, I'm slowly getting to know all systems aboard and am
currently installing a nice Sony car radio in the forward overhead locker.
Even finding 12v for it was a large chore as the ground wiring was iffy and
not connected to anything, something I only found out after gently tugging
and having it come free in my hands. The real ground was taped to it and
the whole time I was trying to get my multimeter to read a floating piece of
12" wire.
All is now well and I just finished a peanut butter and jelly sandwich
so I'm raring to go. If you hear lovely music emanating from afar in the
next half hour, that'll my radio installation.
Once again, thanks all,
Glyn
> From: "michelle" <safoocat@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:49:03 -0800
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] AC male plug, HELP!!
>
> Our hookup cord was in the storage box on the rear bumper.
> Michelle
>
> What the heart once owned and
> had, it shall never lose.
> ~Henry Ward Beecher~
>
> Can anyone give me a hint as to where to look for the 110v hookup?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glyn
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:57:55 -0500
From: "Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re: Reese question
Got a question for those familiar with swing bar limitations. When my
Hensley crashed this summer I replaced it on my 03 Safari with a Reese
system. The bars are rated at 1,200 lb. class V. (also replaced the
square receiver on the back of the Suburban with a class V) It occured
to me that I could use the same bars and hitch with my 54 Flying Cloud
by just adding the clamps to the A frame. (I was only using a sway
controller towing the FC) BUT are the new bars too heavy for the FC?
The Safari weighs in at 6,500 lbs. the FC only 2,600. It seemed like a
cool idea to have one system with a few extra parts that could be used
for both trailers. Same idea, I could add the ball to the side of the
Reese hitch, and the ball with plate to the Safari A frame and use the
sway controller with both trailers also. Have I lost you all?
Patti (having a blonde moment)
Long Island, NY
1954 Flying Cloud
2003 Safari
02 2500 Suburban
WBCCI # 3321
Washington DC Unit
VAC
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:02:26 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Reese question
I believe that the bars are too heavy duty for your FC, and perhaps your
Safari as well. My Overlander only uses 500# bars! You may wish to check
with Reese and or Airstream to see if you would be doing damage to either
trailer. However I believe that you did the right thing with the heavy duty
receiver on your Suburban!
Scott
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From: "Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Got a question for those familiar with swing bar limitations. When my
> Hensley crashed this summer I replaced it on my 03 Safari with a Reese
> system. The bars are rated at 1,200 lb. class V. (also replaced the
> square receiver on the back of the Suburban with a class V) It occured
> to me that I could use the same bars and hitch with my 54 Flying Cloud
> by just adding the clamps to the A frame. (I was only using a sway
> controller towing the FC) BUT are the new bars too heavy for the FC?
> The Safari weighs in at 6,500 lbs. the FC only 2,600. It seemed like a
> cool idea to have one system with a few extra parts that could be used
> for both trailers. Same idea, I could add the ball to the side of the
> Reese hitch, and the ball with plate to the Safari A frame and use the
> sway controller with both trailers also. Have I lost you all?
>
>
> Patti (having a blonde moment)
> Long Island, NY
> 1954 Flying Cloud
> 2003 Safari
> 02 2500 Suburban
> WBCCI # 3321
> Washington DC Unit
> VAC
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:05:38 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Reese question
The bars are probably way too stiff for the FC. The bars are available
separately.
Gerald J.
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:57:27 -0600
From: Kevin D Allen <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Re: Reese question
Greetings Patti!
I concur with Scott. I believe that you are likely to find that the
1,200 pound weight distribution bars are too heavy for both your Safari
and Flying Cloud. With your C/K 2500 Suburban, you have the firm
suspension that I have with my K2500 Suburban, and I know that I have
discovered that 500 pound bars are ideal for my '78 Argosy Minuet (3,100
pounds gross weight with 550 pound hitch weight); and I use 700 pound
bars with my '64 Overlander (6,000 pounds gross weight with 750 pounds
hitch weight). Neither of my trailers cause the Suburban to squat much
more than 1.5 inches before the weight distribution bars are attached.
The one thing that I might mention is that I utilize the Reese Dual Cam
sway control with both trailers and is a big part of my reason for
paying such close attention matching hitch weight to spring bars as it
just seems like the Dual Cam system works better with the closely
matched bars.
Kevin
Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359
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From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Patricia V Raimondo
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:58 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: Reese question
Got a question for those familiar with swing bar limitations. When my
Hensley crashed this summer I replaced it on my 03 Safari with a Reese
system. The bars are rated at 1,200 lb. class V. (also replaced the
square receiver on the back of the Suburban with a class V) It occured
to me that I could use the same bars and hitch with my 54 Flying Cloud
by just adding the clamps to the A frame. (I was only using a sway
controller towing the FC) BUT are the new bars too heavy for the FC?
The Safari weighs in at 6,500 lbs. the FC only 2,600. It seemed like a
cool idea to have one system with a few extra parts that could be used
for both trailers. Same idea, I could add the ball to the side of the
Reese hitch, and the ball with plate to the Safari A frame and use the
sway controller with both trailers also. Have I lost you all?
Patti (having a blonde moment)
Long Island, NY
1954 Flying Cloud
2003 Safari
02 2500 Suburban
WBCCI # 3321
Washington DC Unit
VAC
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:31:06 -0500
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Corps of Engineers
Hi Gang,
This is our week at the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Campground adjacent to
the St. Lucie Locks in Stuart, Florida. The access road to it is two roads
west of the intersection of I-95 and US 76.
On the same road just before the COE campground is Martin County Phipps RV
Park (drive-up only, never a "no vacancy" sign, dump station, central water
spigots, showers, pay telephone, $10 a night, boondocking only).
The price went up this year from $6 last year. Apparently, some RVers were
abusing the 30 day rule and the City Council did something about it. The rub
is there are Coast to Coast RV Resorts nearby with full hookups for $10 a
night.
As an aside, we were again offered a campground host job at the COE (5 hours
a day for 5 days a week). We declined. Next week, we'll be in New Orleans
for the holidays.
Later,
Terry
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:36:51 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Parts help
Bill,
I ordered 10 of those window lifter fuzzies from Inland.
Thanks for the lead,
Glyn
> From: "William Durkee" <bdkli@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:47:44 -0600
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Parts help
>
> Glyn
>
> Could this be what you are looking for?
> http://www.inlandrv.com/parts/34727-scrfuzzyplate.jpg
>
>
> Bill Durkee
> 1969 Sovereign
> 03 Ram 1500 Quad
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:54:15 -0500
From: Blair <hitek_airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Corps of Engineers
Terry - If you get this in time you may be able to see the launch from
Canaveral in 40 minutes at 9:38 tonight
Check out Space.com
Blair
Hangin in Key West
At 08:31 PM 12/15/2003, you wrote:
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>Hi Gang,
>
>This is our week at the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Campground adjacent to
>the St. Lucie Locks in Stuart, Florida. The access road to it is two roads
>west of the intersection of I-95 and US 76.
>
>On the same road just before the COE campground is Martin County Phipps RV
>Park (drive-up only, never a "no vacancy" sign, dump station, central water
>spigots, showers, pay telephone, $10 a night, boondocking only).
>
>The price went up this year from $6 last year. Apparently, some RVers were
>abusing the 30 day rule and the City Council did something about it. The rub
>is there are Coast to Coast RV Resorts nearby with full hookups for $10 a
>night.
>
>As an aside, we were again offered a campground host job at the COE (5 hours
>a day for 5 days a week). We declined. Next week, we'll be in New Orleans
>for the holidays.
>
>Later,
>
>Terry
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:04:44 -0500
From: "T o m" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Reese question
How did your Hensley crash, Patti?
Tom
From: "Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re: Reese question
> Got a question for those familiar with swing bar limitations. When my
> Hensley crashed this summer I replaced it on my 03 Safari with a Reese
> system. The bars are rated at 1,200 lb. class V. (also replaced the
> square receiver on the back of the Suburban with a class V) It occured
> to me that I could use the same bars and hitch with my 54 Flying Cloud
> by just adding the clamps to the A frame. (I was only using a sway
> controller towing the FC) BUT are the new bars too heavy for the FC?
> The Safari weighs in at 6,500 lbs. the FC only 2,600. It seemed like a
> cool idea to have one system with a few extra parts that could be used
> for both trailers. Same idea, I could add the ball to the side of the
> Reese hitch, and the ball with plate to the Safari A frame and use the
> sway controller with both trailers also. Have I lost you all?
>
>
> Patti (having a blonde moment)
> Long Island, NY
> 1954 Flying Cloud
> 2003 Safari
> 02 2500 Suburban
> WBCCI # 3321
> Washington DC Unit
> VAC
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:33:55 -0500
From: Dick Kenan <as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Corps of Engineers
At 08:54 PM 12/15/2003, you wrote:
>Terry - If you get this in time you may be able to see the launch from
>Canaveral in 40 minutes at 9:38 tonight
>
>Check out Space.com
I did check and it said the launch is December 16, tomorrow...Oh, tonight's
launch was scrubbed, so it will go tomorrow night at 9:34 pm. So, Terry,
you should be able to see it easily.
- - Dick
(5368)
"The trouble with most folks isn't so much their ignorance, as knowing so
many things that ain't so."
- -- Josh Billings
- ---------------------------------------
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
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