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VAL Digest        Wednesday, December 10 2003        Volume 01 : Number 092




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] PEX plumbing
RE: [VAL] PEX plumbing
RE: [VAL] Re:Black water tank maintence.

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:02:47 -0500
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] PEX plumbing

Ed, et. al.,

PEX stands for PolyEthylene, X(cross)linked.  Great stuff if you don't 
mind the price of the fittings, which are really expensive compared to 
PVC and Cu.  Check out the color coded tubing and the manabloc 
distribution setup at:

	http://www.manabloc.com

Once I start on the rescue projects in NM I plan to use that system for 
all my trailers.  Also the studio/darkroom/summer kitchen/workshops in 
what now is the stock shed.  (Maybe even the house; can you say, 
"Believer"?)

LOL

Matt

Edward Emerick wrote:
> Oh what timing!
> I am in the process of determining what to use on my 59 restoration
> project, PEX, copper, PVC or anything else someone might have had good
> luck with. I'm lucky as I have a gutted trailer (slowly going back
> together) and I think I have some flexibility with what is used. Are
> there any pluses or minuses that we should consider? To be honest I have
> never seen PEX, or maybe I have and never realized it. 
> Ed
> WBCCI/VAC 4425
> 68 Sovereign (all copper)
> 59 Traveler (TBD)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cooper
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] PEX plumbing
> 
> 
> I have to re-plumb part of my 67 TW, and may do it all with PEX.  It
> seems that there are several brands.  Qest is available in the local
> store and others on the internet.  I would like to run different
> connections from a manifold.  Your opinions on which band to use would
> be helpful.  Easy of use and long-term reliability are bigger issues
> than cost.
>  
> I'm leaning toward PEX because I don't see how I could get copper around
> the bends without removing showers and cabinets, and I have read that it
> is a little more tolerant to freezing.
>  
> Best Regards,
>    Jim
>  
>    jcchome@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> 
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:37:24 -0500
From: "Edward Emerick" <EEMERICK@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] PEX plumbing

Hello Brad,
How far is the water heater to the outlet in your trailer? I have an 18
footer and wondering if I need to wrap.
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425

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From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Brad Norgaard
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:58 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] PEX plumbing


Hi Ed and Jim,
When redoing my '59 Trade Wind several years ago, I chose to use PEX. It
is somewhat flexible while being very strong. It is re-enforced poly
tubing. It cuts easily and uses quick connect elbows, T's and valves.
I've not experienced any problems with it since installing it. When
installing, I wrapped a slotted insulation tube everywhere aft of the
water heater on the hot side. This keeps the water extremely hot and at
the rear, I can tell the hot from the cold water line quite easily. Good
luck in whatever your decision.

Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT 



> Oh what timing!
> I am in the process of determining what to use on my 59 restoration 
> project, PEX, copper, PVC or anything else someone might have had good

> luck with. I'm lucky as I have a gutted trailer (slowly going back
> together) and I think I have some flexibility with what is used. Are 
> there any pluses or minuses that we should consider? To be honest I 
> have never seen PEX, or maybe I have and never realized it. Ed
> WBCCI/VAC 4425
> 68 Sovereign (all copper)
> 59 Traveler (TBD)
> 
> 
> 
> I have to re-plumb part of my 67 TW, and may do it all with PEX.  It 
> seems that there are several brands.  Qest is available in the local 
> store and others on the internet.  I would like to run different 
> connections from a manifold.  Your opinions on which band to use would

> be helpful.  Easy of use and long-term reliability are bigger issues 
> than cost.
> 
> I'm leaning toward PEX because I don't see how I could get copper 
> around the bends without removing showers and cabinets, and I have 
> read that it is a little more tolerant to freezing.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Jim

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:40:21 -0500
From: "Edward Emerick" <EEMERICK@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Re:Black water tank maintence.

Hello All,
I think the following site might be of some help with this topic:
PoopReport.com
Good Luck
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign (man the things in that tank)
59 Traveler (What tank? Just a hole in the floor)

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[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Gerald N.
Johnson, electrical engineer
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:45 AM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re:Black water tank maintence.


I've found that the blue stuff in an open bucket I've used in my
outhouse has a great benefit on the odor wafting out to meet me when I
open the door. Just takes a splash per use. Not so much that the odor of
the blue stuff gets strong.

That black water tank needs to be anchored well, without room for being
jostled, else it will break the flange connection again. The toilet is
bolted to it and to the floor of the shower. Looseness in the tank and
toilet mounts probably is what broke up the flange to begin with.

Gerald J.
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