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VAL Digest Saturday, November 22 2003 Volume 01 : Number 074
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Topics in Today's Digest:
Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
[VAL] Buying Diesel Sub
Re: [VAL] Off Topic a Bit - Tow vehicule - Diesel?
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #73 - Dinette or couch?; Backup alarm
Re: [VAL] 1956 Caravanner
Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
RE: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
Re: [VAL] Off Topic a Bit - Tow vehicule - Diesel?
[VAL] Best type of battery.
[VAL] Fridges
Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
re: [VAL] Fridges
Re: [VAL] Fridges
Re: [VAL] Fridges
RE: [VAL] Best type of battery.
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:10:22 -0800
From: William Kerfoot <wkerfoot@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
GAS,
How did you hear that your membership had been cutoff?
Bill Kerfoot
1973 23' Safari
WBCCI #5223
1973 Dodge W200 Powerwagon
1977 Lincoln Continental
Orange, CA
gshippen wrote:
>Scott,
>
>I realize my response was probably uncalled for, however I am still smarting
>from the news that my subscription to the Vintage Advantage was cut off
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:49:01 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
GAS...please enlighten us. The Vintage Club website and the back of the
Advantage both mention a "Friend" subscription, which does _not_ require
WBCCI membership no ownership of an Airstream. Here's a quote from the
website:
"For non-WBCCI Members, there is a Friend of the VAC yearly subscription to
the Vintage Advantage quarterly News Magazine. Fill out the enclosed
Subscription Form and send in your $20 to start receiving the magazine until
you get your first Airstream."
According to this, you should not have been cut off.
Roger
Roger Hightower
WBCCI #4165,VAC
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:02:59 -0600
From: "Ned P. Digh" <npdigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Buying Diesel Sub
REF: Thinking of purchasing a Used 1996 Suburban K2500 6.5l Turbo Diesel. I
do my own repairs to gas vehicles that I own but this would be my first
diesel. Does anyone know of anything I should be watching out for? Chris
Chris, I purchased a 1994 6.5 Sub 2500 about a year ago. I t is a super tow
vehicle, we have number of 7-10 day trips this year. Having said that, mine
had some bugs and as many on this list have said: diesel repairs are not
cheap. I have replaced two heater cores (unusal, but it happened and first
one was on trip several states away), two radiators (second one under
warranty), a fuel injector pump (expensive), alternator, and the heater
hose/pipe (a pipe with gaskets), and right now the speedometer is erratic.
The dealer says the speedo has a bad cluster that about $250 will fix. On the
plus side, it was reasonably priced and even with the repairs, we have a nice
comfortable tow vehicle and don't have a fortune invested. We also have an 82
Sub 6.2, which has served us well, but is under powered (2.54 rear end) and is
currently rusting away, but now is a very handy farm utility vehicle. I am
not writing this to discourage you, I still like my diesel. As several have
suggested, join one of the diesel groups to receive their newsletter and
service tips. If you are doing your own gas engine repairs, their materials
will be of great value to you. Ned Digh
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:00:08 -0600
From: "Jarrod White" <jarrodwhite@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Off Topic a Bit - Tow vehicule - Diesel?
I have a 96 GMC Sierra extended cab with the 6.5TD. I've been pleased with
it. I get about 20-22 mpg on the highway empty and about 15-16 towing and
in-town. I bought it used, but I've put 20k miles on it without any engine
problems or overheating (just regular oil changes at the GM dealer for about
$31 every 3k miles). It pulls my 66' Ambassador (28 feet) with ease,
although you don't have as much passing power at Interstate speeds because
of the high RPM's your already running (about 2200 to 2400 at 70 mph).
Jarrod
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:24:03 GMT
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #73 - Dinette or couch?; Backup alarm
I'm not familiar with an Airstream dinette except from floor plans.
I had an Aristocrat that had a dinette and it made a full size bed. The table top laid on ledges
on the seat boxes and the cushions were proportioned to lay down into a full size mattress. If
the cushions had been good sprung ones instead of foam blocking it would have been more comfortable.
It wasn't bad, though, and better than the convertabed sofas I have slept (sort of) on.
Al Grayson
As for the couch vs. dinette option, as a "DINK" (double income no kids) couple with few extra
sleeping requirements, we considered also making a conversion, too. However, after speaking with
lots of RV owners, the one thing we kept on hearing was that a couch was more convenient--that
dinettes are difficult to get in and out of, that a couch is easier for entertaining. So, I found
some retro looking tv trays at the Container Store and we'd figure we'd try living with the couch
configuration for a while. During the hurricane, we ended up
pretty much living out of our toaster--and we ended up figuring that it
wasn't worth the bother to change (plus it gives us more space stow the nephews when we drag them
along). That said, I have seen pretty decent online instructions for cutting the couch up into a
dinette setup. You end up sacrificing a bit of floor space and the result is a twin instead of
double bed, but the results look really nice: http://www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/
(click "during" then "dinette").
......
Mary Dotson
1961 Safari
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I have considered checking in my Overlander as I really like the backup lights on my Minuet - - not so
much that they help me - - rather their ability to warn approaching drivers when I back my trailer into
the side driveway at my house (I live on the main approach route for our
hospital's emergency room so there is quite often unexpected traffic on the street).
AL - My Chevy van has a neat little backup light/alarm that combines the beeper with a 20 W bulb. It has
a bayonet base that plugs in the backup light socket.
The Chevy dealer said it is not a GM item. Does anyone know where to get these? I would like to put one
in each backup light on my trailer.
[See my note below.]
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I think the back up light alarms are sold in most automotive parts
stores. Sometimes required of commercial trucks. (probably an OSHA
rule). Probably sold at J. C. Whitney too. Try a truck stop with some
parts on display too.
Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.
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AL -- Tried every truck stop store I stopped at from Oregon to Texas. None.
Trucks have separate alarms wired in, and truck semitrailers don't have a backup light circuit.
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:38:56 -0500
From: "Dash7 (Michigan)" <dash7_@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #66 - Backup lights
The bulb/beeper combo can be found at:
http://store.yahoo.com/rodi/des20100.html
This is a replacement for the 1156 bulb. Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the 3156 bulb.
Don (MI)
AL -- Thanks Don.
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #66 - Backup lights
My '68 Caravel has back up lights. And their wire shows on the trailer
and car wiring diagram, page 48. I've not made them work. Not high on my
list of priorities. When I need to see what the back end is doing while
backing in the dark, I use a magnetic flashlight on the back bumper. Its
narrow long beam helps tell where the trailer is wandering quite
handily.
Gerald J.
- - --
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.
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AL -- Backup lights are not so much for seeing where you are going when backing up as they are to
warn anyone hiding back there that that great big silver thing is about to come back! Thus the
backup alarm.
My backup lights (Signal-Stat "Acrystat") DO light up very well, that is, as much as I can see with
the mirrors.
I finally found a local parts house that can get the bulb bayonet base backup alarm/light: NAPA for
$22.86 (1156 replacement) here in Brownwood TX. They used to carry them in stock but sold so slowly
that they didn't reorder.
Yes, many parts houses do carry separate backup alarms but most cost more than the combined bulb/alarm
device, and require mounting and wiring-in. The bulb/alarm unit just plugs in in place of the original
1156 or 3156(?) bulb.
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:29:54 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1956 Caravanner
Bob,
As far as I know it hasn't been fixed.
Scott
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From: "Bob Patterson" <bpatt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1956 Caravanner
> I have a 53 model and would like to know how Tom fixed his after it
failed.
> Bob Patterson
>
>
> >FWIW - if it was Tom's trailer - it is a 1953........
> >
> >>Please keep in mind the need to keep the weight down in the '50's
models.
> >>One of our more active members did not and overloaded the front of his
> >>trailer. He got away with it for a while, but now is looking at frame
repair
> >>or replacement.
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:48:04 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
GAS, how can I make this any clearer. Your subscription to the Vintage
Advantage was NOT cut off due to lack of membership in the WBCCI!!!!
Membership in WBCCI is not and never was a requirement to receive the
newsletter. If you heard otherwise you heard wrong.
Membership in WBCCI IS required for VAC membership. The membership allows
you to attend all VAC functions, vote at meetings, run for office, and to
access all of the club's website. The only reasons you might of stopped
receiving the newsletter are forgetting to renew your subscription, or
moving and not informing us of your new address. It is also possible that
the company we hire to mail them out made a mistake, or that it was lost in
the mail, but you were not cut off from the newsletter by us.
Scott Scheuermann
VAC Membership
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
...I am still smarting from the news that my subscription to the Vintage
Advantage was cut off
because of my lack of membership in the WBCCI...
...Cheerfully grumbling,
GAS
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:54:54 -0800
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
GAS is correct. I was also a Friend of the VAC and cut off after the
enforcement of new rules requiring WBCCI membership.
I don't attend rallies so I will not be joining the WBCCI at this time in my
life. But it was nice getting the Vintage Advantage and access to the
membership area of the website.
- -Tim
- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]On Behalf Of Roger Hightower
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:49 AM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
GAS...please enlighten us. The Vintage Club website and the back of the
Advantage both mention a "Friend" subscription, which does _not_ require
WBCCI membership no ownership of an Airstream. Here's a quote from the
website:
"For non-WBCCI Members, there is a Friend of the VAC yearly subscription to
the Vintage Advantage quarterly News Magazine. Fill out the enclosed
Subscription Form and send in your $20 to start receiving the magazine until
you get your first Airstream."
According to this, you should not have been cut off.
Roger
Roger Hightower
WBCCI #4165,VAC
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:14:28 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Off Topic a Bit - Tow vehicule - Diesel?
Don't know anything about the GM diesels, but my '96 Dodge pickup with a
Cummins diesel engine just passed 250,000 miles. The most costly thing ever
done to it was to replace the A/C compressor. A very reliable vehicle.
Scott
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:59:59 -0600
From: "William Durkee" <bdkli@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Best type of battery.
I wanted to get a feel for how everyone felt about batteries. I have done
some research and discovered that it would seem the best option is a true
deep cycle battery(Trojan). The AS currently has a very inexpensive and
small car battery and I do not think it will do much for us away from a good
power source. I do have a new 40 amp converter which seems to do well with
keeping the power supplied and keeping the battery charged while onshore.
It also still has the vent tube for the original battery, but is currently
not being used. Does anyone know is it best to keep the battery in a box
hooked up to the vent tube?
Bill Durkee
1969 Sovereign
03 Ram 1500 Quad
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:41:09 -0500
From: "nickruthwarren" <nickruthwarren@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Fridges
I have just found out I have to replace the Dometic Fridge in our Tradewind.
Any idea where I can get a retro looking RV Fridge? There is a particullarly
good example of what I'm looking for at Vintage Vacations (
http://www.vintage-vacations.com/61airstream_2.htm ).
Ruth Warren
1961 Tradewind
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:08:52 -0700
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
Scott,
I would rather not belabor this point, however please see Roger Hightower's
contribution to the list and contact me off list and I will copy my
correspondence to you from Wayne Moore.
Thank you,
Gerald Anthony Shippen
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From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fall Vintage Advantage
> GAS, how can I make this any clearer. Your subscription to the Vintage
> Advantage was NOT cut off due to lack of membership in the WBCCI!!!!
> Membership in WBCCI is not and never was a requirement to receive the
> newsletter. If you heard otherwise you heard wrong.
>
> Membership in WBCCI IS required for VAC membership. The membership
allows
> you to attend all VAC functions, vote at meetings, run for office, and to
> access all of the club's website. The only reasons you might of stopped
> receiving the newsletter are forgetting to renew your subscription, or
> moving and not informing us of your new address. It is also possible that
> the company we hire to mail them out made a mistake, or that it was lost
in
> the mail, but you were not cut off from the newsletter by us.
>
> Scott Scheuermann
> VAC Membership
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>
> ...I am still smarting from the news that my subscription to the Vintage
> Advantage was cut off
> because of my lack of membership in the WBCCI...
> ...Cheerfully grumbling,
> GAS
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:35:00 -0800
From: "Tim Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: re: [VAL] Fridges
Ruth
Good luck with you search. I was able to install a modern fridge and use the original wood panel cut
down to fit the door.
Looks good. Just another option if you cannot find what your looking for.
- -Tim
tim@telecom-pros.com
www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0320
"nickruthwarren" <nickruthwarren@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
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>I have just found out I have to replace the Dometic Fridge in our Tradewind.
>Any idea where I can get a retro looking RV Fridge? There is a particullarly
>good example of what I'm looking for at Vintage Vacations (
>http://www.vintage-vacations.com/61airstream_2.htm ).
>
>Ruth Warren
>1961 Tradewind
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:04:01 -0500
From: "Jim Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fridges
What a great looking trailer. Wow!
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
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From: "nickruthwarren" <nickruthwarren@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:41 PM
Subject: [VAL] Fridges
> I have just found out I have to replace the Dometic Fridge in our
Tradewind.
> Any idea where I can get a retro looking RV Fridge? There is a
particullarly
> good example of what I'm looking for at Vintage Vacations (
> http://www.vintage-vacations.com/61airstream_2.htm ).
>
> Ruth Warren
> 1961 Tradewind
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:21:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fridges
Send vintage-vacations an email - they might tell you
what that fridge is?
Toby
- --- nickruthwarren <nickruthwarren@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> I have just found out I have to replace the Dometic
> Fridge in our Tradewind.
> Any idea where I can get a retro looking RV Fridge?
> There is a particullarly
> good example of what I'm looking for at Vintage
> Vacations (
> http://www.vintage-vacations.com/61airstream_2.htm
> ).
>
> Ruth Warren
> 1961 Tradewind
>
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:24:04 -0600
From: "Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.isunet.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Best type of battery.
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From: "William Durkee" <bdkli@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:59:59 -0600
><SNIP>
>It also still has the vent tube for the original battery, but is currently
>not being used. Does anyone know is it best to keep the battery in a box
>hooked up to the vent tube?
>
>Bill Durkee
>1969 Sovereign
>03 Ram 1500 Quad
>
It is best to keep the battery in a box and hooked to the vent tube. The battery produces fumes,
primarily a mixture of hydrogen, and oxygen with a smattering of sulfuric acid. The gas is greatest
with a heavy load or near fully charge, or during an equalizing charge. The ratio of hydrogen to
oxygen is optimum for the biggest bang. The sufulric acid content eats metals and wood. All need to
be vented. Some of us prefer that the battery be outside the trailer.
Gerald J.
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