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VAL Digest         Saturday, October 25 2003         Volume 01 : Number 046




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Topics in Today's Digest:

RE: [VAL] hitch lock
[VAL] David Pfeffer/Beaverton/IBM is out of the office.
[VAL] Floor Joining Questions
RE: [VAL] hitch lock
RE: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels
Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels
[VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity
Re: [VAL] VAC Online Library
RE: [VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity
Re: [VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity
Re: [VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity
Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels
[VAL] Back end dragging
Re: [VAL] Back end dragging
Re: [VAL] Back end dragging
Re: [VAL] hitch lock
Re: [VAL] Zolatone
Re: [VAL] Back end dragging
Re: [VAL] Back end dragging
Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels/Goodyear Marathon radials
Re: [VAL] Back end dragging
Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels/Goodyear Marathon radials
Re: [VAL] Back end dragging
Re: [VAL] hitch lock
Re: [VAL] Back end dragging
Re: [VAL] hitch lock

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:03:47 -0400
From: "Dash7 (Michigan)" <dash7_@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] hitch lock

Airstream does use a coupler that has a rolled lip around the front edge and 
the only place I could find a coupler lock to fit was at the local AS 
dealer.  Its model G-37 made by Guardian Industries in Tulsa OK and it fits 
over the lip and covers the bottom of the coupler.  I think I paid around 
$45 for in last July.  Guardians web site is at

http://www.guardianhitch.com/

Don (MI)


>From: "Lynn Evans" <Earth2lynn@comcast.net>

>What kind of lock can I get for the hitch?  I got one at Lowes but I
>couldn't get it to work die to the lever thing being too high and
>scratched it up and can't return it.  I looked at all sorts of pictures
>on the net on rv sites but I can't figure out how they work.  I have a
>small utility trailer with a key lock but it doesn't work on the A/S due
>to the lip around the ball holder part of the hitch.

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:00:15 -0600
From: David Pfeffer <pfefferd@us.ibm.com>
Subject: [VAL] David Pfeffer/Beaverton/IBM is out of the office.

I will be out of the office starting October 23, 2003 and will not return
until October 27, 2003.

I will be out of the office starting 08/16 returning on 08/25.

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:30:01 -0400
From: "dave@micsupply.com" <dave@micsupply.com>
Subject: [VAL] Floor Joining Questions

I have the foam panels between my rear axels insulating our tanks.  That foam is held up 
with 1 inch wide metal straps in criss cross fashion between the axels.  the straps are 
then sheet metal screwed into anything under there that will hold them.  hope this helps.

- --dave

http://www.dwmorrison.com/airstream.htm


Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:07:57 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@ual.com
Subject: RE: [VAL] Floor Joining Questions

You hold the foambaord in place with long #6 or #8 screws.  Make sure
that you don't overdrive them, otherwise the points will come up through
he 5/8th" plywood sub-floor into your linoleum or flooring.  You could
use adhesive, but then it isn't removable, and you have to find a way to
support the foamboard while the adhesive dries anyway.
Best of luck,
RJ

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:43:13 -0400
From: "Lynn Evans" <Earth2lynn@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] hitch lock

That is EXACTLY what I need...thanks for such prompt and exact info...I
am ordering it today. 

I love the instant gratification of the help I get here.  I promised
when I first started that when I became an "expert" of sorts myself I
would share my info just as enthusiastically.

My Mr sees me on line and says "Talkin' with your Airstream buddies,
huh? Next time ask them.....[any number of things]" 

He just doesn't get into online groups but [whisper]...I think it's the
male "I'm gonna figure it out without admitting I need help" syndrome!!!

He did ask, over breakfast this morning, what in the world we did with
our spare time before we had this "lawn ornament" and I couldn't for the
life of me remember!!!

Lexxy/aka/Lynn
see our stuff at:
http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/index.htm 


>
>Airstream does use a coupler that has a rolled lip around the 
>front edge and 
>the only place I could find a coupler lock to fit was at the local AS 
>dealer.  Its model G-37 made by Guardian Industries in Tulsa 
>OK and it fits 
>over the lip and covers the bottom of the coupler.  I think I 
>paid around 
>$45 for in last July.  Guardians web site is at
>
>http://www.guardianhitch.com/

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:57:58 -0400
From: "Lynn Evans" <Earth2lynn@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels

>You could always remove the tires and wheels so anyone would 
>need to raise the trailer and insert a big dolly to tow it 
>away!  That would look pretty obvious then that it was stolen. 
> Or, would that be today's low-rider RV? ;)
>
>Tom in NC
>5303


Yep...and I can see my brick wall dragging along behind it!!!

BUT...now you bring up tires and wheels and they are next on my
list...in fact I am on my way to take a pix of my current ones to take
to a dealer to order new tires and wheel rims.  Any advice here? I will
wait until next monday in case someone has some help.

The Mr just says..."Hey...get some new tires and wheels on that
thing"...good thing I enjoy a challenge so much!!!

And I have one old hubcap that came with it...could it be useful to
anyone?  I have a stack of old miscellaneous stuff I will take pix of
when it's all over and just give away like I did the furnace motor.
Hey...I don't want it and this stuff is just laying around my barn.  I
had no idea so much of this stuff had value when I threw away several
good items when we were first cleaning it out....like a whole tiolet cuz
I didn't want to clean it...stupid me...I didn't know how tough it was
to fit another on in there!!!

We are using an old closet door cut up as the foundation for our dining
table...thought that was handy...I had to reinforce the interior
supports [where the gaps in the cardboard are] but it's working so far.

Lexxy/aka/Lynn 
[Alexis Lynn] in Augusta Ga.
 '67 Safari ...the never ending story!
http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/dewdrop.htm

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:31:47 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels

To make trailer borrowing more difficult, I take an old or a cheap ball
and saw off the threads, then I close the hitch on that and apply the
simple hitch lock that I use while towing. Makes it harder to pull the
trailer, but not impossible. I remember the adage one keeper of keys
told me long ago, "Locks are to remind honest people..." They won't stop
the serious thief.

It will take MORE than pictures of tires and wheels to purchase the
correct wheels and tires to fit. You need to know the rim load rating,
the rim diameter, the rim width, the offset, and the bolt pattern (bolt
circle, bolt size, center hole). Vintage Airstreams are notorious for
tight wheel well clearances, closer than the Rim and Tire Association
handbook calls for. Nearly all have experienced taking wheel and old
tire to the tire store and bringing it home to find it won't fit in the
wheel well. Better to take the whole trailer and let the tire dealer
find out they won't fit. Saves hassle in the long run. One argument for
switching from bias ply truck tires to radial trailer tires is that the
steel belt on the radial tire keeps it from growing so much when
inflated. When I did that to my Caravel last summer, I gained an inch of
wheel well clearance at the tight spot and quite a bit more sidewall
clearance. But to be sure, I took the trailer to the tire store and had
them mount a new tire on the spare rim, than checked to see if it would
fit, before they did the others (and balanced that one).

Gerald J.
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Reproduction by permission only.

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:38:38 -0500
From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@tompatterson.com>
Subject: [VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity

Forwarding Received Message.

- -Tom

- ----- Original Message -----
From: John Schubert
To: VAL Digest
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:21 PM
Subject: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity


List members,
I am looking for original or color copy sales brochure(s) for my 1983 27'
Excella as well as any other print stuff relating to it. E-mail me with any
information.

For those interested the Classic Caravan Club whose name is now the Classic
Airstream Club can be found online at
http://geocities.com/classicCaravanClub/

I am curious why no one has started a vintage and/or Airstream club seperate
of WBCCI? It seems logical given that there seems to be a viable contingent
that dont care for the WBCCI. I am not trying to start anything by asking
this, just curious.

John

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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:08:08 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] VAC Online Library

Looks like Toby is still rebuilding that page after the Webmaster change.

Roger

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:05:03 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@ual.com
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity

The Classic Airstream Club intraclub of the WBCCI disbanded at the last
International, didn't it?  Note the old dates on the website.

As for a new independent vintage trailer or vintage Airstream club, it
is only a matter of time.  The support and interest is out there, but
most people are joiners.  What it is going to take is an energetic
leader to rise up with the ability and time to organize and create the
core nucleus - and the ability to infect other organizers around the
country with the same enthusiasm.

This is what keeps Craig Dorsey's Vintage-Vacations from being other
than a local event - lack of US wide involvement.

What gets most special interest clubs started is such an individual or
group of individuals. What was necessary to their success was a method
by which to promote and communicate, usually through the sponsorship and
support by a magazine or through a larger newsletter.

It's just a matter of time...

Later,
RJ

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Schubert
> To: VAL Digest
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:21 PM
> Subject: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity
>
>
> List members,
> I am looking for original or color copy sales brochure(s) for
> my 1983 27'
> Excella as well as any other print stuff relating to it.
> E-mail me with any
> information.
>
> For those interested the Classic Caravan Club whose name is
> now the Classic
> Airstream Club can be found online at
> http://geocities.com/classicCaravanClub/
>
> I am curious why no one has started a vintage and/or
> Airstream club seperate
> of WBCCI? It seems logical given that there seems to be a
> viable contingent
> that dont care for the WBCCI. I am not trying to start
> anything by asking
> this, just curious.
>
> John

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:41:46 -0500
From: <Balloon@rideair.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity

John,

I'm sure as you have found in life, it is far easier for most
people to sit around and complain about what is already
available to them, than to create something of their own. 

Proud Member,

Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270


> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Schubert
> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:21 PM
> > I am curious why no one has started a vintage and/or
> > Airstream club seperate
> > of WBCCI? It seems logical given that there seems to be a
> > viable contingent
> > that dont care for the WBCCI. I am not trying to start
> > anything by asking
> > this, just curious.
> >
> > John

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:49:14 -0700
From: "Bob Hightower" <rhightower@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity

>From looking at the web site, it appears that they are about to accept, or
have accepted, an offer to become a WBCCI intraclub. Seems like a needless
duplication.

Bob Hightower

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@tompatterson.com>
To: <valist@tompatterson.com>
Cc: <flynya@grapevine.net>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:38 AM
Subject: [VAL] Fw: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity


> Forwarding Received Message.
>
> -Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Schubert
> To: VAL Digest
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:21 PM
> Subject: Brochure, Classic, and curiousity
>
>
> List members,
> I am looking for original or color copy sales brochure(s) for my 1983 27'
> Excella as well as any other print stuff relating to it. E-mail me with
any
> information.
>
> For those interested the Classic Caravan Club whose name is now the
Classic
> Airstream Club can be found online at
> http://geocities.com/classicCaravanClub/
>
> I am curious why no one has started a vintage and/or Airstream club
seperate
> of WBCCI? It seems logical given that there seems to be a viable
contingent
> that dont care for the WBCCI. I am not trying to start anything by asking
> this, just curious.
>
> John
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:34:13 -0400
From: "T o m  :-\)" <tmeeker@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels

Lynn,

What does this hubcap look like?  I'm missing "just one" (isn't that usually
the case?) out of the set of 4.

The Airstream I need a hubcap for is a 1969 International Ambassador, dual
axle.

Tom in NC
WBCCI 5303

PS:  tires and wheels should be easy to come by - make sure they are NOT
automobile wheels OR tires as they need to be the "special" trailer tires,
we use Goodyear Marathon radials on ours.


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lynn Evans" <Earth2lynn@comcast.net>
To: <valist@tompatterson.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels


: >You could always remove the tires and wheels so anyone would
: >need to raise the trailer and insert a big dolly to tow it
: >away!  That would look pretty obvious then that it was stolen.
: > Or, would that be today's low-rider RV? ;)
: >
: >Tom in NC
: >5303
:
:
: Yep...and I can see my brick wall dragging along behind it!!!
:
: BUT...now you bring up tires and wheels and they are next on my
: list...in fact I am on my way to take a pix of my current ones to take
: to a dealer to order new tires and wheel rims.  Any advice here? I will
: wait until next monday in case someone has some help.
:
: The Mr just says..."Hey...get some new tires and wheels on that
: thing"...good thing I enjoy a challenge so much!!!
:
: And I have one old hubcap that came with it...could it be useful to
: anyone?  I have a stack of old miscellaneous stuff I will take pix of
: when it's all over and just give away like I did the furnace motor.
: Hey...I don't want it and this stuff is just laying around my barn.  I
: had no idea so much of this stuff had value when I threw away several
: good items when we were first cleaning it out....like a whole tiolet cuz
: I didn't want to clean it...stupid me...I didn't know how tough it was
: to fit another on in there!!!
:
: We are using an old closet door cut up as the foundation for our dining
: table...thought that was handy...I had to reinforce the interior
: supports [where the gaps in the cardboard are] but it's working so far.
:
: Lexxy/aka/Lynn
: [Alexis Lynn] in Augusta Ga.
:  '67 Safari ...the never ending story!
: http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/dewdrop.htm
:
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:54:10 -0500
From: "William Durkee" <bdkli@hotmail.com>
Subject: [VAL] Back end dragging

Hello,

I am Bill and live in Memphis.  I just purchased my first Airstream.  It is 
a 69, 31ft Sovereign.  Brought it home from Ohio this last week.  Had a 
problem with the original hitch it was to tall.  So I bought a new one and 
made the ball 19 inches high.  This helped with leveling the trailer and I 
thought it help keep the back end from dragging, but I soon discovered that 
there are many driveways that just were not built with my trailer in mind.

I was thinking of raising the trailer height by adding a spacer in between 
the trailer frame and the frame that actually has the suspension attached to 
it.  So I thought I would join the discussion group and see if this was a 
good idea of if there might be a better option out there.

Bill

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:26:10 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging

Make sure it has full size tire, but not so big that the hit the wheel
wells.

Gerald J.
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:19:23 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging

If you have the right tires and a weight distributing hitch and the proper
hitch ball height , rear end dragging should not be a problem. I have a 1976
31' A/S and I have pulled in and out of steep driveways without a problem.
But if the front of the trailer is setting high, the rear will be to low.
You probably need to back your tow vehicle up to the trailer on leveel
ground but not hook up. Level the trailer and then check the drop on your
hitch from the receiver to the ball You might need to get a new hitch with
the right drop to make it work.

Don Hardman
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Durkee" <bdkli@hotmail.com>
To: <valist@tompatterson.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:54 PM
Subject: [VAL] Back end dragging


> Hello,
>
> I am Bill and live in Memphis.  I just purchased my first Airstream.  It
is
> a 69, 31ft Sovereign.  Brought it home from Ohio this last week.  Had a
> problem with the original hitch it was to tall.  So I bought a new one and
> made the ball 19 inches high.  This helped with leveling the trailer and I
> thought it help keep the back end from dragging, but I soon discovered
that
> there are many driveways that just were not built with my trailer in mind.
>
> I was thinking of raising the trailer height by adding a spacer in between
> the trailer frame and the frame that actually has the suspension attached
to
> it.  So I thought I would join the discussion group and see if this was a
> good idea of if there might be a better option out there.
>
> Bill
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:56:03 -0600
From: jere potter <potterjrp@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock

lynn- what works for me is simply to lock in a spare ball in the 
socket, so it is "occupied".
I discovered that my hitch lever, even if locked, will allow it to be 
dropped onto the ball.
(My trailer came with one of the hitch locks, that also did not fit). 
So now, I insert a spare hitch ball, then lock the lever with a 
padlock. Unlikely that somebody will spend the time trying to line all 
that up to fit in a receiver to take it away. But as they say, if 
somebody wants to steal it,they will find a way.
Jere Potter,
Fort Collins, CO
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 09:43 PM, Lynn Evans wrote:

> What kind of lock can I get for the hitch?  I got one at Lowes but I
> couldn't get it to work die to the lever thing being too high and
> scratched it up and can't return it.  I looked at all sorts of pictures
> on the net on rv sites but I can't figure out how they work.  I have a
> small utility trailer with a key lock but it doesn't work on the A/S 
> due
> to the lip around the ball holder part of the hitch.
>
> I'm thinkin I got too much in this thing now not to lock it when I go
> out of town!!!  Thought about chaining it to the brick fence but they
> could just pull down the brick wall and I'd have to rebuild that.  I do
> try and park the other car in front of it...or I willl now I have
> thought of it.
>
> Lexxy/aka/Lynn
> [Alexis Lynn] in Augusta Ga.
>  '67 Safari ...the never ending story!
> http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/dewdrop.htm
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:12:15 -0600
From: jere potter <potterjrp@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Zolatone

   No original zolatone- prev owner had painted with flat yellow latex, 
but was well adhered, so I primed over that. Zolatone 
recommended/stressed to use primer even over prev painted surfaces. The 
acrylic in the primer makes it very sticky and durable.
Jere Potter
Ft Collins, CO
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 04:17 PM, Chris Elliott wrote:

> Jere ,
>   So you primed over the old zolotone ? 

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:06:10 -0700
From: "Tuna" <rctowns@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging

it occurs to me that your henschen duratorques (suspension) may be due for
replacement - if the trailer is riding too low at the axle(s), it'll tend to
lift the hitch end, and the rear will be too low. just a thought.... you
might check andy's duratorque page at the inland rv site:

http://inlandrv.com/articles/dura-torque-axle-92001.htm

tuna
reno, nv

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@earthlink.net>
To: <valist@tompatterson.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging


> If you have the right tires and a weight distributing hitch and the proper
> hitch ball height , rear end dragging should not be a problem. I have a
1976
> 31' A/S and I have pulled in and out of steep driveways without a problem.
> But if the front of the trailer is setting high, the rear will be to low.
> You probably need to back your tow vehicle up to the trailer on leveel
> ground but not hook up. Level the trailer and then check the drop on your
> hitch from the receiver to the ball You might need to get a new hitch with
> the right drop to make it work.
>
> Don Hardman

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:41:35 -0700
From: "bob" <bovi@fortunehitech.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging

I have been many places where I had to drop the hitch bars to get in and
out. This lets the front of the trailer down some and back up. Bob

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:23:57 -0600
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels/Goodyear Marathon radials

Hi Tom,

What is the size and specification on those Goodyear Marathon radials?  And
what trailer are you using them on?

GAS

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:26:27 -0600
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging

Bill you will notice in the old Wally Byam Caravan photos they actually did
raise some of the longer trailers on the African trip.  GAS
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "William Durkee" <bdkli@hotmail.com>
To: <valist@tompatterson.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:54 PM
Subject: [VAL] Back end dragging


> Hello,
>
> I am Bill and live in Memphis.  I just purchased my first Airstream.  It
is
> a 69, 31ft Sovereign.  Brought it home from Ohio this last week.  Had a
> problem with the original hitch it was to tall.  So I bought a new one and
> made the ball 19 inches high.  This helped with leveling the trailer and I
> thought it help keep the back end from dragging, but I soon discovered
that
> there are many driveways that just were not built with my trailer in mind.
>
> I was thinking of raising the trailer height by adding a spacer in between
> the trailer frame and the frame that actually has the suspension attached
to
> it.  So I thought I would join the discussion group and see if this was a
> good idea of if there might be a better option out there.
>
> Bill
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:41:33 -0400
From: "T o m  :-\)" <tmeeker@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels/Goodyear Marathon radials

Well, they are Goodyear Marathon "special trailer" tires, 15" wheels.  I
don't have the specs in front of me right this second but they are
"standard" size.  I'm using the same size on the older 1969 29' Intl
Ambassador as we are on our newest 1995 34' Excella Classic.

If I get out to the garage tonight I'll look up the sidewall info and post
it here.

Tom

From: "gshippen" <gshippen@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock/wheels/Goodyear Marathon radials


: Hi Tom,
:
: What is the size and specification on those Goodyear Marathon radials?
And
: what trailer are you using them on?
:
: GAS

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:43:51 -0400
From: "T o m  :-\)" <tmeeker@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging

Good idea, Bob.

Has anyone given thought to adding the steel wheels to the end of the
trailer frame like some l-o-n-g motorhomes have that have a big distance
from the wheels to the rear bumper?

Tom
WBCCI 5303

From: "bob" <bovi@fortunehitech.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging


: I have been many places where I had to drop the hitch bars to get in and
: out. This lets the front of the trailer down some and back up. Bob

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:56:53 -0400
From: "T o m  :-\)" <tmeeker@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock

No, I doubt anyone would go to the trouble of lining up the threaded shaft
of the hitch ball but it wouldn't be too difficult to do if they brought
along a washer and nut to install your hitch ball onto 'their' receiver bar.
Then they'd have to raise or lower the trailer or their vehicle so they
could then back up to the receiver bar.

How many times have we seen people just pull out from their trailer when
they finally get parked and leave the receiver bar hanging from the trailer
hitch, complete with their other hitch equipment like load levelers, etc.?

If anyone is really determined to take your trailer they will.  Even
heavy-duty tow chains could be used to elevate the hitch end of the trailer
and tow it away where they can then take their time hitching it up right so
they don't look too suspicious.  Now, an Airstream being towed just by
chains hanging from the back of a vehicle *should* set off alarms in
anybody's brain that something is *wrong* with that picture!  Things being
what they are today and our police busy on the bigger events in our new
lives might not have the time nor the energy to investigate a scene like
this.  When I reported the break-in of my tow vehicle they took my report by
telephone - they sent no one to the house - they trusted me that I would not
file a false report as that is unlawful.  Well, so is stealing your trailer
unlawful and I bet they'd STILL send no one out!

You have to do whatever you have to do so *you can feel safe* parking your
prized Airstream.  In South Florida thieves even steal aluminum light poles!
Right, they cut them down, cut them up and haul them to the recyclers.
Imagine that!  And the recyclers - well they just know it's aluminum.
Right!  And they don't get involved either.  Can you imagine finding
streetlights missing from the Expressways of Miami?  It happens!  And,
thieves have even stolen the copper wiring that runs from pole to pole which
is underground in conduit.  Brazen aren't they?

Maybe we should invent the type of trailer frame that come apart, just like
our receiver hitches do.  Bet that would throw some thieves for a loop.

Tom
WBCCI 5303

From: "jere potter" <potterjrp@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock


: lynn- what works for me is simply to lock in a spare ball in the
: socket, so it is "occupied".
: I discovered that my hitch lever, even if locked, will allow it to be
: dropped onto the ball.
: (My trailer came with one of the hitch locks, that also did not fit).
: So now, I insert a spare hitch ball, then lock the lever with a
: padlock. Unlikely that somebody will spend the time trying to line all
: that up to fit in a receiver to take it away. But as they say, if
: somebody wants to steal it,they will find a way.
: Jere Potter

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:02:03 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Back end dragging

Looking through my RV catalogs last night, I saw them for trailers and
motor homes. Been available for a long time as far as I know. Question
may be, "Is the back of the frame strong enough to lift the trailer
without bending it?"

Think sagging Henschen axles. The geometry is such that an inch low at
the axles makes the back end nearly 2 inches low. An inch high the hitch
only drops the rear about an inch.

I did notice last weekend, while digging for shocks for the trailer I'm
building, that Monroe has shock attachment kits to fit the Dexter
torsion axles that are easier to acquire than Henschen axles (multiple
sources and far better prices, but they require a bit of engineering to
order the correct assembly).

Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:07:37 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hitch lock

I use the old hitch ball, but I sawed off the stud to keep it from being
bolted to a hitch bar.

I think I've seen the rig unhitched by pulling the receiver bar pin and
leaving all the stuff there and handy. 

I've known of energized copper over 7200 volts wires being stolen from
the poles in the Black Hills.

Gerald J.
- -- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.

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