VAL Digest V1 #43

VAL Digest         Wednesday, October 22 2003         Volume 01 : Number 043




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] gray water holes - older days
[VAL] Airstream
Re: [VAL] Zolatone
RE: [VAL] opinions on vacume
[VAL] Wally the Vintage Airstream Cat
Re: [VAL] introduce myself
RE: [VAL] opinions on vacume
[VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
Re: [VAL] Zolatone
[VAL] Daisy's evil twin
Re: [VAL] opinions on vacume
[VAL] The Earliest Travelers
Re: [VAL] Zolatone

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:49:48 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] gray water holes - older days

Gophers, moles, thirteen stripe ground squirrels? All make holes,
actually only the ground squirrels leave them open to the surface, moles
and pocket gophers dislike light and rarely open their holes to the
surface. All their holes will accept huge amounts of water without
drowning the occupants. They aren't as simple as they seem from the
surface but seem to have a bit of hydraulics planned in them to divert
surface water from the living quarters. E.g. its futile, I've found to
try to drown the rascals with the garden hose.

Yup, my manual calls it a "gopher hole" too. Even in the index.

Gerald J.
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:13:44 -0400
From: "Don Geren" <dgeren@cbbi.net>
Subject: [VAL] Airstream

Hi, just an note to introduce myself to the list. I just recently purchased a
1965 17' Caravel and looking forward to its restoration. We have been
searching for such a camper and luckily found this unit.  It is in all
original condition but was covered with bees nest, rat crap,etc. Any of you
Airstreamers that have gone through this restoration or have one of these
smaller units please contact me direct at dgeren@cbbi.net  Thanks in advance
for your help  Don

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:17:20 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@midcoast.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Zolatone

Hi ,
Now that I have all my interior panels and wiring back in , does anyone have any
hints about spraying zolatone ? Will a spray tip for acrylic enamel work ? I read
some about it on website , but would like to hear about it from some who have
used it - like do I spray out the whole trlr at higher pressure and then go back
and spatter it at low , or spatter from each cup used ? Any experience`s ?
Chris

Don Geren wrote:

> Hi, just an note to introduce myself to the list. I just recently purchased a
> 1965 17' Caravel and looking forward to its restoration. We have been
> searching for such a camper and luckily found this unit.  It is in all
> original condition but was covered with bees nest, rat crap,etc. Any of you
> Airstreamers that have gone through this restoration or have one of these
> smaller units please contact me direct at dgeren@cbbi.net  Thanks in advance
> for your help  Don
>
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:25:42 -0400
From: "Lynn Evans" <Earth2lynn@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] opinions on vacume

As I was looking at small vacume cleaners to use on the A/S and
eventually on our boat I wondered what models others have found handy
for strength and weight and price.  I would like one that will blow too
and might have to get a small shop kind.

I already have a rechargeable battery, extended handle electric broom
type but it seems I will need some hose attachment for dust control.

Also...has anyone put in an air filter for allergies in their A/s?  A
small one to keep the dust of people in a small space down.

My Mr offered me a Sharper Image silent one for my 60th birthday last
week {wow!!}  does anyone use one on an A/S?

[I refused the gold earrings offered and am going for a sailmakers
sewing machine!! He isn't crazy enough to JUST get me an aircleaner...]

Lexxy/aka/Lynn 
[Alexis Lynn] in Augusta Ga.
 '67 Safari ...the never ending story!
http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/dewdrop.htm

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:45:31 -0400
From: Alexkensington@aol.com
Subject: [VAL] Wally the Vintage Airstream Cat

Hi All -
As some will remember I have two coachs from 1966 a safari 22' I tour with, and an 
Overlander 26', under restoration. I am in my season now performing at historcial 
reenactments all over the country. So My Overlander has been idle for a few weeks. 

While stopping home at Indianapolis for a week off, I discvoered a cat evidently had 
kittens under my floor in the belly pan! She's long gone and a tiny white and ginger 
tabby kitten,  dropped out on the grass in front of me from an area by the A frame 
which was opened up for wiring. 

I thought it was male but I am now not certain. "He's" a couple of week old and in great 
health, and I am feeding him replacement mother milk with a feeder. It's doing very well. 
Curious, playful and full of kitteny goodness. "He" will be a very handsom cat. 

I really love cats but my roomates are serious allergic and I must get him  or her, to a 
family. 

My next jump is to Mobile Alabama in a week, and I am taking I-65 most of the way from 
Indianapolis. So Who wants an Authentic Vintage Airstream tabby cat? The local non lethal 
Cat Haven has no vacancies, and some friends are thinking about it, but no one is biting 
yet. I have no photos yet to post .

This couldn't be more off topic, so I apologise and ask for responses to me directly, or 
feel free to telephone 317-319-6577.  Let's find Wally a home even if it's made of Aluminum!

Alexander Kensington
1966 Safari & Overlander
WBCCI & VAC #8728
Indianapolis

Alexkensington@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:13:10 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] introduce myself

Joe, I think I may have a table for you, I picked it up at the VT 
international. It was from a 60's trailer. I chose to stay with my 70's 
plastic interior. Shall I send you a picture ?

Daisy

gshippen wrote:

> Hi Joe,
> Welcome to the VAL.  I too live in Wyoming and would like to think I may
> have even seen your trailer around.  We like to count Airstreams when
> traveling with the family.  Your trailer may be like our Globe Trotter which
> has a table that stows in the closet.  I'm still not sure if I like the
> arrangement but the gaucho couches are sure useful when you have a number of
> people huddling inside during a rainstorm.  Happy trails.
> Gerald Shippen
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Winkler" <joepatwink@netscape.net>
> To: <valist@tompatterson.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:05 PM
> Subject: [VAL] introduce myself
> 
> 
> 
>>Having joined this trailer thread I will now introduce myself.
>>  My wife and I just bought a 1964 Airstream Trailer that is 24feet, 5
> 
> inches from rear bumper to front of hitch (the bumper appears to be a
> retrofit from a Ford Pickup), we have been looking for a Airstream or a
> Silver Streak for about four years. We live in North Central Wyoming, in the
> Big Horn Basin, our children have grown up and left so we now have time to
> work on fixing up this trailer. We hope to use it in the mountains during
> the spring, summer, and fall. It will be used almost exclusivly away from
> hook-ups, sometimes as a base camp for hiking trips into the local
> wilderness areas. I am a teacher, my wife is in school to earn her teaching
> degree, so someday we hope to have large blocks of the summer to camp,
> search for wildflowers, hike, moutain climb, fish, or ride horses.
> 
>>   It doesn not have a grey water tank, only a black water. It has a large
> 
> fresh water tank but I do not know how large, the water system is all
> copper, not plastic like our other campers were.
> 
>>  It has a single axle. It has two furnaces, one with a blower and one
> 
> without. I think the one with a blower is a retrofit but do not know for
> sure. All the small compartment doors are disabled, where can you get new
> locks? It doesn't have a table or chairs.
> 
>>  Joe
>>
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:29:01 -0500
From: Jim Clark <jec1938@corecomm.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] opinions on vacume

Hi:
I can recommend the small size Shop Vac that is available at Target stores 
and apparently not at other outlets... It's about the size of a small water 
pail and has an internal bag... It has great suction and the price was very 
nominal... Check it out before you buy something expensive.

Jim


At 09:25 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote:
>As I was looking at small vacume cleaners to use on the A/S and
>eventually on our boat I wondered what models others have found handy
>for strength and weight and price.  I would like one that will blow too
>and might have to get a small shop kind.
>
>I already have a rechargeable battery, extended handle electric broom
>type but it seems I will need some hose attachment for dust control.
>
>Also...has anyone put in an air filter for allergies in their A/s?  A
>small one to keep the dust of people in a small space down.
>
>My Mr offered me a Sharper Image silent one for my 60th birthday last
>week {wow!!}  does anyone use one on an A/S?
>
>[I refused the gold earrings offered and am going for a sailmakers
>sewing machine!! He isn't crazy enough to JUST get me an aircleaner...]
>
>Lexxy/aka/Lynn
>[Alexis Lynn] in Augusta Ga.
>  '67 Safari ...the never ending story!
>http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/dewdrop.htm
>
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:12:16 -0600
From: "Randy Unter" <runter@earthlink.net>
Subject: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004

I'm not sure if we replied back to folks wanting to know about the '04 RM
Rally.  The planning committee is working on location and dates, so we'll be
posting that sometime soon when the details are known.
Thanks for your interest. We are looking forward to another succesful and
fun rally, most likely in the southern part of Colorado for access to those
cross countrying. Stay tuned.
Randy Unter
VAC Region 11 Rep

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:09:44 -0600
From: jere potter <potterjrp@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Zolatone

Chris- I recently painted my Globetrotter with Zolatone, it is not as 
hard as you might imagine. Hardest part for me was finding a source for 
the paint, and special acrylic primer. Primer cost $15 a gallon, and 
was more difficult to apply , due to consistency, but necessary. The 
paint itself cost $80/gal, (I ordered 1 primer, but two of the paint, 
in case I needed extra-same lot), selecting a sample online. The 
zolatone came with good instruction booklet, and an actual sample card, 
with specifics on which paint gun to use. But I used an inexpensive, 
pressure gun from Harbor freight tools, on sale at $79, even though I 
had two other siphon sprayers. The paint itself goes on easily, but it 
is the weirdest stuff, with a consistency of curdled milk. When it hits 
the surface, the microglobules of other colors get released, and create 
the splatter effect. Already it is showing excellent durability, as I 
re-outfit the interior.
If you would like more details, I can provide details. Try this link:
http://www.zolatoneaim.com/                      Sure, you can do it!!
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 07:17 AM, Chris Elliott wrote:

> Hi ,
> Now that I have all my interior panels and wiring back in , does 
> anyone have any
> hints about spraying zolatone ? Will a spray tip for acrylic enamel 
> work ? I read
> some about it on website , but would like to hear about it from some 
> who have
> used it - like do I spray out the whole trlr at higher pressure and 
> then go back
> and spatter it at low , or spatter from each cup used ? Any 
> experience`s ?
> Chris

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:22:12 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@tiac.net>
Subject: [VAL] Daisy's evil twin

For those of you who like the layout of my 73 Ambassador 29'trailer, 
rear double bed,

there is it's brother on Ebay right now. No idea what shape it's in.

  2438526954 	

Daisy

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:38:29 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] opinions on vacume

Lynn,

I have two of the Sharper Image air purifiers at home. I take one with me
when traveling in the Airstream. It is truly amazing how much dust it takes
out of the air in our trailer, but then again we do have a jalousie window,
which never does shut tightly. That said, we often find ourselves parked
where there is a lot of dust and dirt.

Scott
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lynn Evans" <Earth2lynn@comcast.net>

> My Mr offered me a Sharper Image silent one for my 60th birthday last
> week {wow!!}  does anyone use one on an A/S?

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:52:08 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@airstream.net>
Subject: [VAL] The Earliest Travelers

Hi Gang, 

Is anyone interested in how our behavior of exploring and satisfying our
wanderlust came into being? If yes, here are two websites. Both are written
from the prehistoric perspective and describe how we got this way and why.

The first one is 5 pages long. It can be found at:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=0008C127-C322-1F80-B
57583414B7F0103&pageNumber=1&catID=2

The second one is 6 pages long. It can be found at:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0007B7DC-6738-1DC9-AF71809EC588EE
DF&pageNumber=1&catID=2

Terry 

mailto:tylerbear@airstream.com

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:47:54 -0600
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Zolatone

Chris,
Did you have all wood work removed prior to repainting?  What kind of shape
were the fiberglass ends  in?  My Globe Trotter has some severe cracking and
delamination in the bathroom.  I have been considering using bondo to
restore the surface prior to painting.
GAS
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "jere potter" <potterjrp@comcast.net>
To: <valist@tompatterson.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Zolatone


> Chris- I recently painted my Globetrotter with Zolatone, it is not as
> hard as you might imagine. Hardest part for me was finding a source for
> the paint, and special acrylic primer. Primer cost $15 a gallon, and
> was more difficult to apply , due to consistency, but necessary. The
> paint itself cost $80/gal, (I ordered 1 primer, but two of the paint,
> in case I needed extra-same lot), selecting a sample online. The
> zolatone came with good instruction booklet, and an actual sample card,
> with specifics on which paint gun to use. But I used an inexpensive,
> pressure gun from Harbor freight tools, on sale at $79, even though I
> had two other siphon sprayers. The paint itself goes on easily, but it
> is the weirdest stuff, with a consistency of curdled milk. When it hits
> the surface, the microglobules of other colors get released, and create
> the splatter effect. Already it is showing excellent durability, as I
> re-outfit the interior.
> If you would like more details, I can provide details. Try this link:
> http://www.zolatoneaim.com/                      Sure, you can do it!!
> On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 07:17 AM, Chris Elliott wrote:
>
> > Hi ,
> > Now that I have all my interior panels and wiring back in , does
> > anyone have any
> > hints about spraying zolatone ? Will a spray tip for acrylic enamel
> > work ? I read
> > some about it on website , but would like to hear about it from some
> > who have
> > used it - like do I spray out the whole trlr at higher pressure and
> > then go back
> > and spatter it at low , or spatter from each cup used ? Any
> > experience`s ?
> > Chris
>
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