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VAL Digest V1 #36
VAL Digest Wednesday, October 15 2003 Volume 01 : Number 036
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Topics in Today's Digest:
Re: [VAL] Hard-to-find flare fitting
Re: [VAL] Dent
Re: [VAL] Dent
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #35 - Rusty refrigerator racks
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #35 - Battery box
[VAL] Travel Trailer Crash Analysis - RCMP
Re: [VAL] Refrigerator shelves
Re: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
Re: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
[VAL] Re: electric hitch
[VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] Towing with a car
Re: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
Re: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
Re: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
RE: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
Re: [VAL] Refrigerator shelves
Re: [VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
Re: [VAL] Dent
Re: [VAL] Dent
Re: [VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] winterizing
Re: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
[VAL] Re: Dent removal
[VAL] Airstream TV Show
Re: [VAL] Airstream TV Show
Re: [VAL] Airstream TV Show
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:52:30 -0500
From: dean <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Hard-to-find flare fitting
Also try a GOOD Heating and Cooling shop. They have catalogs
that will have fittings like you want.
Dean
On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 12:12 AM, Rob Super wrote:
> I'm looking for a flare fitting (for gas line):
>
> tee, 5/8 x 3/8 x 3/8 (prefer the 5/8 to be on the run, but any
> location OK)
>
> Rob
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:28:51 -0400
From: "Bobby Gill" <Gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dent
Hello. My '73 Ambassador has lots of battle damage that it has received over
the years
from the various owners that has towed it around since it rolled out of the
factory in 1973.
There's a few that I will eventually fix, mainly the one where someone backed
into an overhang
or low limb that dented the top above the aft window.
For the most part the others don't seem to be of great concern at least to me,
heck it's 30 years old for crying out loud, it should have a few wrinkles and
scratches.
When we have it set up at a campground and the awnings are out and the kids
are roasting
marshmallows, never once has either said "geez dad our camper sure has a lot
of dents and
scratches, can we get a new one" or "oh my what an ugly trailer".
They do like it even though it's old, sleeping on the floor, who was Airstream
kidding
when they said it sleeps "four". But the kids enjoy every minute of every trip
that we take
with the scratched up and dented 1973 Airstream Ambassador, easy to pick out
at a campground too,
usually the only A/S around. Guess all the others still around with dents just
stay home to save the
embarrassment/humiliation of being seen in public. Not ours, it still shines
in the sun,
with the Zip Dee awnings out, kids playing having fun, it looks good, from a
distance.
It could be posing for a photo shoot. But most importantly instead of being
all primp and polish
(mirror shine), it's still providing our family a lot of enjoyment.
Bobby
'73 Ambassador (Old Beater)
Valdosta, GA
----- Original Message -----
From: Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: [VAL] Dent
Hello: I can't believe after 34 years of no dents that I have managed to
back
into a tree branch and now my 69 Tradewind has a dent in the rear street
side, right where the curve is. If I could get to the inside it looks like
I
could just push it out and would only have a small scratch. How do the
suction
puller things work on the skin? Would I be better to cut a hole on the
inside
of the bathroom cabinet and try to tap out the dent from the inside? Any
suggestions would be helpful.
Tom Fairbank
1969 Tradewind
1998 Expedition puller
Idiot driver
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:31:57 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dent
In the antiques world, it's know as patina. If you remove it, the value
of the object goes way down.
I've got quite a bit of patina myself nowadays, But I don't think I'll
get a new skin or put suction cups on yet.....
Daisy
Bobby Gill wrote:
> Hello. My '73 Ambassador has lots of battle damage that it has received over
> the years
> from the various owners that has towed it around since it rolled out of the
> factory in 1973........
> heck it's 30 years old for crying out loud, it should have a few wrinkles and
> scratches.
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:57:56 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #35 - Rusty refrigerator racks
I used to work in a factory that made wire racks for Magic Chef ovens.
There was a considerable reject rate on the racks. A lot of the chrome
was flaky and/or rough textured, discolored, and some of the wire spot
welds came loose in the chroming baths. And this was with brand new wire.
So don't expect perfect results having old pitted, rusty racks rechromed.
The old chrome will have to be completely removed, the racks acid dipped
to eat all the rust out of the pits, and then treated and plated.
A 30 year old fridge isn't long for this world anyway, so I don't think
I'd go to such trouble and expense. I do have a 1958 GE (house)
refrigerator that is still going strong after 45 years. It has anodized
aluminum shelves, so no chrome pitting and flaking.
Al Grayson
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:13:14 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #35 - Battery box
After having a new aluminum battery box made, you might have a spray-in
pickup bed liner shop coat the insides of your new battery box. You can
also get this stuff in spray cans and do-it-yourself. It's very much like
plastic tool handle coating. It needs to be thick so it doesn't get any
holes in it where acid can get under the coating and corrode the box.
How about just putting a layer of bicarbonate of soda in a plastic tray
for the battery to sit in?
Also make sure your new battery is clamped snugly in place. For a battery
to rattle around shortens its life.
Al Grayson
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>
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Leggett <pklhead2@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Battery Storage
>
> The only plastic battery box I have found that will accommodate Trojan
T105's is made by Blue Seas and stocked by West Marine for sailboat
applications. Unfortunately it is a large box with the batteries
oriented wide side-to wide side instead of narrow side to side, making
the box deeper than I would've liked for the trailer tongue - almost more
square than rectangular. I also found an outfit in Sacramento CA that
makes aluminum stuff ( http://www.taylorwings.com/ ) and battery boxes
for 18-wheelers and they were more than willing to make up custom-sized
aluminum boxes to your spec for about the same money, compared to the
stuff you find in their web catalog. Summit Racing also sells individual
aluminum battery boxes, but none large enough for a Trojan 6Volt.
>
> I haven't gotten to the point of implementing yet, and I have a spare
tire to displace, but I'm more inclined to have an aluminum battery box
made and stay in keeping with the older Airstream styling than to go
plastic.
>
> John Leggett
> San Francisco
> WBCCI #1154
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:26:19 -0400
> From: "Patty and Chris Peters" <candppeters@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> Subject: [VAL] Battery Storage
>
> I've replaced the 12v batteries in my 88 25' excella (has 2 battery
boxes in the front). I bought 2 T105s and they don' fit! tried to build
a box for the tongue but not enough clearance between the trailer and the
LP gas bottles. Can you get larger battery boxes to replace the existing
ones?
> Any creative solutions? Thanks!
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:58:13 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Travel Trailer Crash Analysis - RCMP
Note Eric Brewer's comments:
1) Gain on brake controller set low
2) Tire pressures improper - you can be sure this is LOW pressure and not
high
3) Hitch loading improper - This can be either too low OR too high
If any of you have constructive comments you might consider forwarding
them to Mr. Brewer.
Al
From: www.accidentreconstruction.com/disc3/_disc1/0000012b.htm
Travel Trailer Control Loss
From: Eric Brewer crash_guy_99@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Date: 10/26/00
Time: 1:03:50 AM
Remote Name: 204.244.93.214
Comments
I am a collision reconstructionist for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police
in Kamloops British Columbia Canada. The area I look after is mountainous
and we have an extensive tourist population. During the past year we have
experienced a number of fatal and injury collisions involving SUV type
vehicles pulling ball and hitch type travel trailers. One of the common
threads in the crashes has been the brake settings on the towing vehicle
brake box. In all the cases the gain was set very low. As well the tire
pressures and the hitch weights were out of line. What has been happening
is the vehicles are descending grades in some cases and braking. We
suspect the trailer is under braked and is pushing the rear of the towing
vehicle around. The other suspect piece of the puzzle is hitch loads. We
suspect there may have been negative loads due to loading. My question to
you all is, has there been a proliferation of these types of crashes in
any other areas? I would appreciate any information as we are going to
put together an information package for distribution regarding these
issues and others. Reply either to this posting or to my e-mail address.
Thanks in advance Eric Brewer R.C.M. Police Kamloops, B.C. Canada V2C5Y5
250-828-3139 Eric Brewer
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:23:43 -0400
From: "Robert L. Cornute" <ccornut1@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Refrigerator shelves
Hi Lew; My suggestion is to take it to a metal refinisher and have them
replated as I doubt if you can find shelves to fit that particular
refrigerator today. Bob Cornute WBCCI 4953 VAC Member
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Cc: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: [VAL] Refrigerator shelves
> My thirty-two-year-old Dometic RM-60 still cools fine. However, the
plating on the racks/shelves
> has pitted and there are ugly rust spots here and there. Any
suggestions???
>
> -- Lew #4239
>
> '72 Safari
> Custom Craft Megatow
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:18:11 +0000
From: "seana carroll" <seana_carroll@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
I am interested in all rally info to support my cross country trip. The more
info I have the better to fascilitate this ARTSTREAM project.
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:27:34 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
Check out http:\\www.airstream.net for upcoming Vintage rally information.
I don't think the date and location of the 2004 Rocky Mountain Rally is set
yet, but it should be sometime in the first two weeks of August.
Everyone should be aware that in order to take part in a VAC Rally, you
_must_ be a member of the VAC and WBCCI. This has always been a
requirement, partly because of the insurance conditions.
I don't want to start another discussion about whether or not to join, but
membership is required in order to participate in the activities.
Roger
Roger Hightower
WBCCI #4165,VAC
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:31:22 -0500
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
I have a 1969 caravel that the electric jack just stopped working. Not
overheated, no noise, just stopped while hooking up.
I jumped it from the wire on another trailer and it works fine. Any
suggestions.
Dan
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:43:29 -0700
From: "Ross, Wyn" <WRoss@xxxxxxxxxx.co.washoe.nv.us>
Subject: [VAL] winterizing
Greetings,
I'm a new owner of a 1965 GT which needs to be winterized. The owners manual
says to pour kerosene into the drains. Is this still the recommended
procedure? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Wyn
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:57:38 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <donhardman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] winterizing
I guess it would work, but hope this has changed over the years. You should
be able to buy a less volatile antifreeze made just for RV water and
plumbing lines at most RV supply stores.
Don Hardman
> I'm a new owner of a 1965 GT which needs to be winterized. The owners
manual
> says to pour kerosene into the drains. Is this still the recommended
> procedure? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> Thanks in advance,
> Wyn
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:08:48 -0700
From: "Jim O'Keefe" <designerjimo@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Towing with a car
>I would like your opinions as to the suitability of towing a 1979 23'
>Safari, with a gross weight of 5,800 lbs, with a 1977 Lincoln Continental.
>
>Bill Kerfoot
>WBCCI 5223
>1979 23' Safari
>1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon
>Looking for a Lincoln Continental
>Orange, CA
What a brilliant and stylish choice. The only problem I see is that the
rear end will not be a 3.73 or 4.something, so that will limit performance.
Our neighbors had virtually the same setup, back when their trailer was new
and Lincoln was late model.
I have to say, though, they believed the trailer greatly shortned the life
of the car, and after a few years upgraded to an F150.
Jim, JR, and Jezebel (the standard poodle)
Palm Springs
'85 Limited 32'
'03 Avalanche 2500
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:26:03 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
Dan
Sounds like a ground problem to me....
Ken J
At 01:31 PM 10/14/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a 1969 caravel that the electric jack just stopped working. Not
>overheated, no noise, just stopped while hooking up.
>
> I jumped it from the wire on another trailer and it works fine. Any
>suggestions.
>
>Dan
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:30:50 -0400
From: "T o m :-\)" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
you probably have a bad switch on the jack.
check the ohms for continuity and if there is none, you need to replace the
switch.
Tom
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
: I have a 1969 caravel that the electric jack just stopped working. Not
: overheated, no noise, just stopped while hooking up.
:
: I jumped it from the wire on another trailer and it works fine. Any
: suggestions.
:
: Dan
:
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:33:15 -0400
From: <lindner.1@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
10/13/2003 10:13:44 PM, seana carroll <seana_carroll@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
>I am planning a cross country tour in my '68 Overlander from
>Washington,DC to Los Angeles in 2004. I am turning my Overlander into an
>art gallery for video/audio and installation work and touring it.
Fantastic! Let me congratulate you on your taste.
>I want to start planning my itinerary now.
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
Advice is cheap, and worth every penny. Here is mine:
Avoid freeways at all costs (if artistic taste, low stress, or fun are issues) --
US50 from Washington to US220 @ Junction WV.
US220 to US33
US33 to Elkhart IN (@ Bellfontaine OH, take a side trip to Jackson Center, and in Elkhart visit the trailer museum)
Elkhart to Chicago as best you can (there is no good route)
Former US66 from Chicago to Los Angeles (I understand the old route is marked now; also, plenty of people will be
happy to sell you maps and things to guide you -- or you can sift through the chaff on the net).
>Does anyone know of similar projects or
>grant info or promotional ideas?
Sorry, I never was good at finances.
>I am an art student and this is my
>senior thesis.
I am an old retired professor, but I would be happy to give you an "A" on this one.
-- Lew #4239
'72 Safari
Custom Craft Megatow
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:30:03 -0400
From: "Vasquez, David" <DVASQUEZ@mta-esa.org>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
Greeting Dan
Check your fuses. It happen to me not so long ago on my way
to the internationals.
David Vasquez
WBCCI 7476 and VAC
'73 sovereign
'60 Shasta
'79 suburban
>>>>>
I jumped it from the wire on another trailer and it works fine. Any
suggestions.
Dan
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:41:24 -0400
From: <lindner.1@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Refrigerator shelves
My sincere thanks to Toby, Tom, Mike, Forrest, Al, and Bob for your creative suggestions.
Now all I have to do is make a decision.
Somebody once said hell is getting what you asked for.
-- Lew #4239
'72 Safari
Custom Craft Megatow
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:44:01 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] winterizing
Gosh thats amazing - they used kerosene for everything back then,,,, I
remember my grandmother used it for all kinds of stuff...I bet if you were
to compile a list those old folks had more uses for kerosene than we have
for wd40
Ken J.
At 01:57 PM 10/14/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I guess it would work, but hope this has changed over the years. You should
>be able to buy a less volatile antifreeze made just for RV water and
>plumbing lines at most RV supply stores.
>
>Don Hardman
>
> > I'm a new owner of a 1965 GT which needs to be winterized. The owners
>manual
> > says to pour kerosene into the drains. Is this still the recommended
> > procedure? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Wyn
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:45:20 -0500
From: Dean <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] winterizing
You may want to have a RV shop do it this first year.
You stick around and WATCH and ask a LOT of questions.
Next year it will be easy for you to do it.
Dean
On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 01:43 PM, Ross, Wyn wrote:
> Greetings,
> I'm a new owner of a 1965 GT which needs to be winterized. The owners
> manual
> says to pour kerosene into the drains. Is this still the recommended
> procedure? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> Thanks in advance,
> Wyn
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:26:23 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] winterizing
Get the pink RV antifreeze (same stuff that you should of pumped into the
water lines after blowing them out) and pour a good amount down each drain.
Remember that you will need to flush out any water that is present in the
traps as it will dilute the antifreeze. One way around this is if you have a
vaccume that can be set to blow. Just blow out each trap then add a small
amount of RV antifreeze for good measure.
Scott
'60 Overlander
Ohio
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross, Wyn" <WRoss@xxxxxxxxxx.co.washoe.nv.us>
> Greetings,
> I'm a new owner of a 1965 GT which needs to be winterized. The owners
manual
> says to pour kerosene into the drains. Is this still the recommended
> procedure? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> Thanks in advance,
> Wyn
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:27:51 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: electric hitch
Dan, look for a fuse in the line feeding your jack.
Scott
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> I have a 1969 caravel that the electric jack just stopped working. Not
> overheated, no noise, just stopped while hooking up.
>
> I jumped it from the wire on another trailer and it works fine. Any
> suggestions.
>
> Dan
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:03:31 -0400
From: pete highlands <satdjpete@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dent
You getem Bobby
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and I think mines a beauty too.
1968 tradewind with plenty of character. Just like its owner my wife says.
Pete Highlands
68TW
47 Plym tv
95 GMC safari
Bobby Gill wrote:
> Hello. My '73 Ambassador has lots of battle damage that it has received over
> the years
> from the various owners that has towed it around since it rolled out of the
> factory in 1973.
> There's a few that I will eventually fix, mainly the one where someone backed
> into an overhang
> or low limb that dented the top above the aft window.
> For the most part the others don't seem to be of great concern at least to me,
> heck it's 30 years old for crying out loud, it should have a few wrinkles and
> scratches.
> When we have it set up at a campground and the awnings are out and the kids
> are roasting
> marshmallows, never once has either said "geez dad our camper sure has a lot
> of dents and
> scratches, can we get a new one" or "oh my what an ugly trailer".
> They do like it even though it's old, sleeping on the floor, who was Airstream
> kidding
> when they said it sleeps "four". But the kids enjoy every minute of every trip
> that we take
> with the scratched up and dented 1973 Airstream Ambassador, easy to pick out
> at a campground too,
> usually the only A/S around. Guess all the others still around with dents just
> stay home to save the
> embarrassment/humiliation of being seen in public. Not ours, it still shines
> in the sun,
> with the Zip Dee awnings out, kids playing having fun, it looks good, from a
> distance.
> It could be posing for a photo shoot. But most importantly instead of being
> all primp and polish
> (mirror shine), it's still providing our family a lot of enjoyment.
>
> Bobby
> '73 Ambassador (Old Beater)
> Valdosta, GA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tombhs@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:57 PM
> Subject: [VAL] Dent
>
>
> Hello: I can't believe after 34 years of no dents that I have managed to
> back
> into a tree branch and now my 69 Tradewind has a dent in the rear street
> side, right where the curve is. If I could get to the inside it looks like
> I
> could just push it out and would only have a small scratch. How do the
> suction
> puller things work on the skin? Would I be better to cut a hole on the
> inside
> of the bathroom cabinet and try to tap out the dent from the inside? Any
> suggestions would be helpful.
>
> Tom Fairbank
> 1969 Tradewind
> 1998 Expedition puller
> Idiot driver
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:04:37 -0400
From: pete highlands <satdjpete@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dent
Oh what a vision Daisy HI HI
Pete
Daisy Welch wrote:
> In the antiques world, it's know as patina. If you remove it, the value
> of the object goes way down.
>
> I've got quite a bit of patina myself nowadays, But I don't think I'll
> get a new skin or put suction cups on yet.....
>
> Daisy
>
> Bobby Gill wrote:
>
>> Hello. My '73 Ambassador has lots of battle damage that it has
>> received over
>> the years
>> from the various owners that has towed it around since it rolled out
>> of the
>> factory in 1973........
>> heck it's 30 years old for crying out loud, it should have a few
>> wrinkles and
>> scratches.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:14:12 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] winterizing
> Greetings,
> I'm a new owner of a 1965 GT which needs to be winterized. The owners
manual
> says to pour kerosene into the drains. Is this still the recommended
> procedure? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> Thanks in advance,
> Wyn
Hey Wyn:
When I first got my Safari I read the bit about the kerosene in the manual
too. So I got some (still have most of it) but it really stinks. Like
kerosene. I suspect that in the 60s the ethylene glycol in the anti-freeze
solution degraded the plastic (ABS I think) P-traps. Kerosene apparently
does not. But then they invented "RV Pink". That's what I use now.
Available at any RV place like CW or Camper's Choice etc.
Have fun,
GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:10:39 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] winterizing
WD40 IS kerosene and little else.
Gerald J.
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:15:33 -0400
From: "Myrna Warren" <uncleneal@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] winterizing
I heard on the news today that there was a guy in Russia who was trying to
get a stain out of a pair of pants, so he poured at liter of gasoline in the
washing machine, and blew it up. If it killed him I guess he's eligible for
the Darwin Award. Kerosene is not as volatile, but is still flamable. RV
antifreeze is much safer, and probably cheaper. And your coach will smell a
lot better next Spring.
Neal
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From: "Ross, Wyn" <WRoss@xxxxxxxxxx.co.washoe.nv.us>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: [VAL] winterizing
> Greetings,
> I'm a new owner of a 1965 GT which needs to be winterized. The owners
manual
> says to pour kerosene into the drains. Is this still the recommended
> procedure? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> Thanks in advance,
> Wyn
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:48:07 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] winterizing
I suspect kerosene is just a bit higher priced than diesel, but without
road tax so probably down about $1.25 a gallon.
I saw Prestone RV antifreeze at Walmart an hour ago at $3.97 and the
Walmart brand at $3.00 a gallon. And for sure it will smell better.
I drained some RV antifreeze out of the tank on my SOB as I took it
apart and it had no adverse odor at all. It had been in that tank for at
least 12 years. I should measure that tank, check it for leaks and post
it here. I will someday along with other parts saved as I disassembled
it for the frame and axles.
Gerald J.
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:59:45 -0700
From: Pearl Main <pearlm@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Rocky Mountain VAC Rally 2004
HI Seana something you should consider is stopping at courtesy
parking and getting to know members who have free parking at their
homes. How better can you learn about an area than from someone who
lives there? The list is in the WBCCI Directory this year starts on
page 263
We would not list6 it available if we didn't want other A/S to stop
by Pearl
seana carroll wrote:
> I am interested in all rally info to support my cross country trip.
> The more info I have the better to fascilitate this ARTSTREAM project.
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:53:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: M Tate <firebirdesprit@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: Dent removal
If you try to "pound" the dent out from the interior,
be SURE to have an assistant outside to buck the plate
while you hit it from the interior. If not you will
likely knock a hole through the skin. Good
communication is a must so they will know where to
buck against you while you gently try to get the dent
out. however, there will still be defects that will
show, no matter how careful you are. You just cannot
get it totally blemish free, but you can get the worst
of it out.
Good luck
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Mark, Pennie and Rachel
'65 Overlander Land Yacht
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:26:15 -0400
From: "Jim Wallace \(Wally\)" <maltnhops@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Airstream TV Show
Hello all,
I was just perusing my upcoming recordings on Tivo and saw there is a show
called "Hands on History" that will feature Airstream history. The show airs
on the History Channel on Saturday, 10/25 at 5:00PM EST.
- -Wally
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:42:05 -0400
From: pete highlands <satdjpete@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream TV Show
Tnx for the info Wally
Pete
Jim Wallace (Wally) wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I was just perusing my upcoming recordings on Tivo and saw there is a show
> called "Hands on History" that will feature Airstream history. The show airs
> on the History Channel on Saturday, 10/25 at 5:00PM EST.
>
> -Wally
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:03:04 -0400
From: Bob Patterson <bpatt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream TV Show
And here's the program listing:
Saturday, October 25 @ 5pm ET/PT
Airstream Trailers
Airstream trailers have been a classic since Wally Byam first invented them
in 1931. Byam used aircraft engineering to sculpt an aerodynamic trailer so
popular that he was soon leading caravans of hundreds of Airstreams across
the country. Host Ron Hazelton visits the Airstream factory in Jackson
Center, Ohio, and helps build today's Airstream--a retro design with an
updated interior. When his Airstream is complete, Ron sets up camp in the
world's best-known trailer. TV G
>Jim Wallace (Wally) wrote:
>>Hello all,
>> I was just perusing my upcoming recordings on Tivo and saw there is a show
>>called "Hands on History" that will feature Airstream history. The show airs
>>on the History Channel on Saturday, 10/25 at 5:00PM EST.
>>-Wally
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