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VAL Digest Friday, August 20 2004 Volume 01 : Number 345
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Topics in Today's Digest:
RE: [VAL] A call for curtain slider selection help
[VAL] generators for our Airstream trailers
[VAL] Noise
Re: [VAL] Noise
[VAL] good information here - generators, what to look for, etc.
[VAL] Tom's Generator Tips page - loads of info here
Re: [VAL] A call for curtain slider selection help
[VAL] polarity lite is off
RE: [VAL] polarity lite is off
[VAL] refrigirator fire almost
Re: [VAL] polarity lite is off
[VAL] Polishing
Re: [VAL] refrigirator fire almost
Re: [VAL] polarity lite TV mounting
[VAL] A great contact
[VAL] Dog Poop, etc.
[VAL] A whimsical note
[VAL] Dometic Question
Re: [VAL] Dog Poop, etc.
[VAL] machine shop online
Re: [VAL] A whimsical note
RE: [VAL] polarity lite TV mounting
RE: [VAL] A whimsical note
Re: [VAL] A whimsical note
Re: [VAL] Polishing
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:47:41 -0700
From: "Judy White" <djmurtha@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] A call for curtain slider selection help
Does anyone have any thoughts about using heavy cotton for the sun
shield/liner? The type I'm referring to is cotton and almost looks like
painters canvas.
Glyn
Cotton or a cotton polyester blend fabric would be my choice for liner.
Think cotton sheets or similar weight. Painters canvas would be too heavy
in my opinion.
I'm currently engineering the drapes for my Silver Slug. I purchased 4 sets
of twin sheets to use...the fitted bottoms are perfect for the 2 twin beds,
and one fits as a slipcover over the gaucho, with one spare. The top sheets
are being cut up to make the matching/coordinating drapes for the windows
throughout the trailer.
You mentioned that you were going to have the drapes made...The best thing
in the world you can do for the sewer and yourself, is to ask what the sewer
would suggest using as drapery fabric and liner. Believe me there is
nothing like a frustrated sewer to set you straight on the right kind of
fabric to use...And you don't want someone who works with pins, needles and
scissors to be frustrated with your choice of fabrics! You just might find
out how sharp those tools are!
Judy White (retired Home Economics Teacher)
72-27 Ambassador
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:05:21 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] generators for our Airstream trailers
When I first posted my thoughts on building a generator for my Airstream I
stated that I wanted it to be quiet. And my idea of quiet is not dead silence
but rather something that I can live with as can any camping neighbors of mine
who say they "can hear a bird fart at 100 yards."
Now that doesn't mean that I would ever be an "in your face" kind of person to
another fellow camper, but it does mean that I am very aware that the
tolerance for any *noise* has a range that goes from zero to so many decibels
that are needed just to talk. Some of these generator engines advertise with
charts showing how many decibels their engines produce at power while pointing
out at the same time how many decibels it takes for noise to be painful and
harmful to the hearing of a human being.
I believe that it is entirely possible for those of us who enjoy the outdoors
to get along and do our own version of camping which is not detrimental to the
other guy. But, if anyone feels that you should not even utter a whisper out
in the woods because it will pollute the enjoyment of another from that dead
silence I spoke of then you really are not living in the real world. People
who'd be so bothered by this dramatic picture I've painted would be far better
off camping where few men have camped before. Now, it would really be cold up
there on those mountain peaks but you'd have your own world without people to
bother you and finally, FINALLY, some real peace and quiet. ;)
If anyone cares to go back and read what I've posted in the past you will find
that on this power generator quest of mine I've always been of the opinion
that MY unit needs to be quiet. By that I don't mean dead quiet either but
rather sort of a dull sound versus a deafening one that would be obnoxious.
It never was my intention to appear like I was patting myself on the back for
anything, I merely was telling about what we do and how we go about doing what
we do. Period. I don't ever expect nor will I ever demand that others follow
my example as one of being the *correct* way to do things, far from it.
When you go camping you should expect some "noise" (and noise to me might be
different than noise to you) if you are around others who have their own rigs.
I think the most intolerant species of campers might be those in a tent where
they are sleeping on the ground parked right next to a bus type RV who's
generator is belching "noise" and exhaust into their nostrils. I think I'd be
upset too if I was there first and someone came in with a bus and destroyed my
"experience" with nature.
What I have said before and I'll say it again is that I'd like to have a
system where I can use our Airstream at all places and in all types of venues.
We bought our Airstream to be comfortable away from home when we traveled. I
could have bought a bus type RV but I didn't and still won't for at least the
next 20 years or more. We like being able to have our "family" with us at all
times in the same part of the vehicle we are riding in -- I won't subject my
animals to riding in the "back of the truck" under a pickup topper for many
reasons, one of which is their safety and comfort.
When I mentioned "boon-docking" that implies not being hooked up to utilities.
That's all, no more, no less. Having the ability to use our travel trailer
like others use their driving type of RV's means that we really can "have it
all" when we desire to do so. Having a way to travel with our "family" and
still be good neighbors no matter where we go is our desire both for ourselves
and our animals.
Now, some might not agree with me and that's your right. However, I have
almost been adamant from the start of my quest to have electrical power that
is fully portable with our Airstream, that it needed to be "made quiet" and
that runs the full gamut from being water-cooled to being inside a very
sound-proofed box that is of my own custom design.
Some of you have kidded (?) me about the boon-docking, shopping, etc. and
that's all been in good fun, I think. But really being able to be
self-sufficient and good neighbors to others means that I won't be out there
in your face with "my idea" of what it is that you should have to put up with.
I will do what I feel I want to do regardless of how you might not like "my
ideas" or the way I go about doing them. There has to be room in this very big
world of ours for differences of opinion and ideas, and if you are a social
person than you also must decide for yourself how much of the other people you
are willing to either put up with or move down the road to your own slice of
heaven.
As far as animals are concerned: I wish everyone was as thoughtful as the
most thoughtful people who travel with animals are. Animal owners need to
clean up after their animals and they also need to make sure that IF they take
their animals into the world outside of the animal's home they NEED TO BE
SOCIALIZED and good animal citizens. I can't stress that enough. There are
some real slobs out there that I wish I could pick up and put in with the
other trash but I'm told that's illegal. ;)
Your turn.
Tom
WBCCI 5303
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:14:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: jack britton <svbluebonnet@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Noise
Hi,
One more word on barking dogs and generators running.
My wife and I are running a concession on the Blue
Ridge Parkway and living in our Airstream in the NPS
campground. We've had a doe wandering through the last
week or so just before dark as we sit under the awning
enjoying the end of the day. Two evenings ago she
finally brought her fawn out and we got to spend an
hour watching the fawn run about while mom ate.
Gamboling about is the only word to describe it. What
a great experience and one we will remember forever.
They came to within 6 feet of us as we sat and
watched.
Last night we had not one but two motorhomes parked
near us. Both had generators running until after dark
and one had 3 barking dogs. And guess what? No doe, no
fawn. We gave up in disgust and went in way before
dark and plugged in a dvd.
I'm sorry but if you run a gen set in the quiet of the
evening or have barking dogs or make any noise that
can be heard outside your rig the you are a jerk and
always will be.
My opinion and I'm sticking to it, Jack
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:06:03 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Noise
Hi Jack,
Do you have electricity where you are parked? Isn't that a perk with the
National Park Service you get? Are you a camp volunteer?
Tom
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "jack britton" <svbluebonnet@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: [VAL] Noise
> Hi,
>
> One more word on barking dogs and generators running.
>
> My wife and I are running a concession on the Blue
> Ridge Parkway and living in our Airstream in the NPS
> campground. We've had a doe wandering through the last
> week or so just before dark as we sit under the awning
> enjoying the end of the day. Two evenings ago she
> finally brought her fawn out and we got to spend an
> hour watching the fawn run about while mom ate.
> Gamboling about is the only word to describe it. What
> a great experience and one we will remember forever.
> They came to within 6 feet of us as we sat and
> watched.
>
> Last night we had not one but two motorhomes parked
> near us. Both had generators running until after dark
> and one had 3 barking dogs. And guess what? No doe, no
> fawn. We gave up in disgust and went in way before
> dark and plugged in a dvd.
>
> I'm sorry but if you run a gen set in the quiet of the
> evening or have barking dogs or make any noise that
> can be heard outside your rig the you are a jerk and
> always will be.
>
> My opinion and I'm sticking to it, Jack
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:13:24 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] good information here - generators, what to look for, etc.
http://www.gov.on.ca/OMAFRA/english/engineer/facts/00-057.htm
This information is from the Canadian government and it's a primer on what to
look for in a generator which includes the generator itself and the engines --
pros and cons -- of varying designs.
Tom
WBCCI 5303
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:29:34 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Tom's Generator Tips page - loads of info here
http://www.haywired.com/generator/pageindex.htm
Tom's Generator Tips page
Lots of good info here, too.
Tom
WBCCI 5303
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:24:56 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] A call for curtain slider selection help
Judy,
Thanks again, good points all. I'll work with my curtain guy to get the
right liner and curtain fabric.
Glyn
> From: "Judy White" <djmurtha@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:47:41 -0700
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: RE: [VAL] A call for curtain slider selection help
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts about using heavy cotton for the sun
> shield/liner? The type I'm referring to is cotton and almost looks like
> painters canvas.
>
> Glyn
>
> Cotton or a cotton polyester blend fabric would be my choice for liner.
> Think cotton sheets or similar weight. Painters canvas would be too heavy
> in my opinion.
>
> I'm currently engineering the drapes for my Silver Slug. I purchased 4 sets
> of twin sheets to use...the fitted bottoms are perfect for the 2 twin beds,
> and one fits as a slipcover over the gaucho, with one spare. The top sheets
> are being cut up to make the matching/coordinating drapes for the windows
> throughout the trailer.
>
> You mentioned that you were going to have the drapes made...The best thing
> in the world you can do for the sewer and yourself, is to ask what the sewer
> would suggest using as drapery fabric and liner. Believe me there is
> nothing like a frustrated sewer to set you straight on the right kind of
> fabric to use...And you don't want someone who works with pins, needles and
> scissors to be frustrated with your choice of fabrics! You just might find
> out how sharp those tools are!
>
> Judy White (retired Home Economics Teacher)
> 72-27 Ambassador
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:10:31 -0600
From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] polarity lite is off
Earl, hey thanks to you, Forrest McClure and David Tidmore for rewiring my
'66 Overlander at the RM Rally. Seems I hadn't read my original owners
manual carefully and have been using it with the polarity light on these
past 7 years. Fortunately I didn't get juiced. Another reason to attend a
VAC rally; you learn stuff you should have known all along.
Randy Unter
Region 11 VAC Rep.
Randy,
Should work just fine now that the polarity lite is off :)
Take Care,
Earl Peck
65 Overlander
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:22:57 -0500
From: "dtidmore" <dtidmore@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] polarity lite is off
Randy,
Glad that I could offer some small assistance to the effort.
david
- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
On Behalf Of Randy Unter
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:11 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] polarity lite is off
Earl, hey thanks to you, Forrest McClure and David Tidmore for rewiring my
'66 Overlander at the RM Rally. Seems I hadn't read my original owners
manual carefully and have been using it with the polarity light on these
past 7 years. Fortunately I didn't get juiced. Another reason to attend a
VAC rally; you learn stuff you should have known all along.
Randy Unter
Region 11 VAC Rep.
Randy,
Should work just fine now that the polarity lite is off :)
Take Care,
Earl Peck
65 Overlander
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:06:15 -0600
From: "Stan Truitt" <stan.truitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] refrigirator fire almost
hey everyone
took the '66 safari out this week. the PO had told me that the frig (dometic)
did not work on gas so for the last couple of months i have only used it on
110v. the day prior to our trip, i followed the instructions for lighting it
on gas and it fired up perfectly. it shut down when the proper temp was
achieved and i though things were fine. i tested it on gas for half a day with
great results and traveled to our first campground with it running just fine.
when we arrived at the first campground we had 110v at the campground so i ran
it on their nickel after switching the frig to 110v. our next campground had
no electrics so i fired it up on propane. i lit the burner and saw it burning
with a nice blue flame, shut the compartment door and within less than a
minute, smelled burning plastic. i jumped up and opened up the cabinet towel
compartment which gains access to the plastic frig flue that runs up to the
trailer top for exhaust. it was melting, smoking and charred all in less than
a minute. i opened the lower inside compartment door of the frig and saw the
same blue flame. it was only about 1" tall but did burn with alot of force.i
got things shut down and needless to say did not fire it up again. i now am
trying to figure out what happened and if anyone else has experienced this.
the plastic flue is clear of any debris such as mouse or bird nests etc.
perfectly clear and has air flow. access to the upper portion of the frig is
nearly impossible without removing it which i will do if necessary but i need
some ideas as to the problem. did something move, slip or become mis-aligned?
what happened? help!! thanks
harry truitt
66 safari
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:23:32 -0600
From: "Stan Truitt" <stan.truitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] polarity lite is off
>Earl, hey thanks to you, Forrest McClure and David Tidmore for rewiring my
> '66 Overlander at the RM Rally.----------
hey randy
nice to meet you at the rm vac rally. i have often wondered if my polarity
is correct or if the lamp is just burned out. not sure how to check the bulb
or for that matter, how to remove it. any ideas or suggestions?
thanks
harry
66 safari
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From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: [VAL] polarity lite is off
> '66 Overlander at the RM Rally.----------
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:37:27 -0700
From: "Bob Hightower" <rhightower@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Polishing
Those of you at the RM rally who saw out 'new' '72 Overlander may recall the
deep scratches left from someone using a sander on the front cap. Since
getting them out would involve polishing, I decided to do so, and to finish
the entire trailer.
I got a Cyclo polisher and the DeWalt 1/2" drill, along with an assortment
of Nuvite, and started off. Deciding to tackle the front cap first, I used
the drill with bonnet and Nuvite F7. Worked fine, and only took a couple of
passes to smooth out the scratches, but physically, it was a bear. Even
working from a scaffold so as to be able to reach the area easily, it was
tough, due to the configuration of the drill.
While browsing through Harbor Freight this morning, I saw a 7" variable
speed sander/polisher (Item #46507) on sale for $29.99, and, since I don't
have one, picked it up. Tried it out on a previously unpolished area with
the F7, and it worked dvery bit as well as the DeWalt, with less strain, due
to the right angle design, with the weight naturally falling on the bonnet.
A heck of a lot less expensive, too.
While the Harbor Freight tool runs at 1000 rpm, a couple of times faster
than the DeWalt, with care it will not 'burn' the skin. I'm sure I'll use
the DeWalt when I get to the lower parts of the trailer, but this tool will
make things much easier for those high, hard to reach areas.
Just thought I'd pass this on.
Bob Hightower
'72 Overlander
'76 Sov
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:53:43 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] refrigirator fire almost
> i lit the burner and saw it burning
> with a nice blue flame, shut the compartment door and within less than a
> minute, smelled burning plastic. i jumped up and opened up the cabinet
towel
> compartment which gains access to the plastic frig flue that runs up to
the
> trailer top for exhaust. it was melting, smoking and charred all in less
than
> a minute.
Hi Harry:
Well, that must have been spooky. When you had the towel cabinet door open
to look at the plastic chimney, did you happen to remove the circular plug
that is in the cabinet bottom on the left side? It's about 3 inches in
diameter as I recall. That would give you access to the top of the burner
barrel that is on the other (upper) end of where you are seeing the flame.
There is supposed to be a cap on the top of the burner barrel. There is a
wire connected to the cap that dangles a twisted sheet metal baffle at just
the right place within the barrel. Sometimes the trailer bouncing can
dislodge this cap. If that were to happen, the heat from the flame can go
up the barrel and make the plastic chimney hot on the left side. The cap
arrangement features some holes around sides of the barrell to kinda break
up the flow of the heat. This is an original Dometic M52, right?
Check out the plug.
GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA
PS: I can send you a picture of a my M52 with the counter top (and plug
hole) attached after I removed it from the trailer so that you can see what
it looks like back there if you want. Lemme know
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:07:15 -0600
From: "Earl Peck" <earlpeck@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] polarity lite TV mounting
Hi David,
While going through the open house at the RMVAC Rally I commented on your
TVswing arm mounting apparatus and was going to get more info. but never got
around to it. ( funny--- had time to eat alot of those cookies though:) ) Do
you have make, model, etc?
Earl Peck
WBCCI 1965
'65 Overlander
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "dtidmore" <dtidmore@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: [VAL] polarity lite is off
> Randy,
> Glad that I could offer some small assistance to the effort.
>
> david
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> On Behalf Of Randy Unter
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:11 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] polarity lite is off
>
> Earl, hey thanks to you, Forrest McClure and David Tidmore for rewiring my
> '66 Overlander at the RM Rally. Seems I hadn't read my original owners
> manual carefully and have been using it with the polarity light on these
> past 7 years. Fortunately I didn't get juiced. Another reason to attend a
> VAC rally; you learn stuff you should have known all along.
> Randy Unter
> Region 11 VAC Rep.
>
> Randy,
> Should work just fine now that the polarity lite is off :)
> Take Care,
> Earl Peck
> 65 Overlander
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:05:20 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] A great contact
All,
This might come as old news to the majority of you but for those not
familiar with another great place to find vintage Airstream parts, contact
the Campers Repair Center by phone at 205.665.2531 in Montevallo AL.
I just got a very hard to fine part from them today after having several
very pleasant chats with Sonny Hare, the son of the owner, Mr. Hare.
So try them if you're at your wits end as I was until today looking for
that elusive vintage part for your trailer. They might just have that
incredibly hard to find Airstream part you're looking for, because they only
deal in older Airstream parts.
Cheers,
Glyn
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:35:19 -0500
From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Dog Poop, etc.
Hello All,
Remember the good old days when we used to talk about nitrogen? Boy those
were great times, huh?
Brian
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:40:30 -0500
From: "J. Anderson" <janderson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] A whimsical note
Yeah, Brian, I hear you. I stopped by my local tire place today, had a
flat on the rear street-side due to a piece of road hardware I picked up
somewhere between here and Lake Superior, and got to talking with the
"tire technician" about such matters; seems like those in-the-know up my
way see no need for nitrogen in one's trailer tires as long as you bring
'em in periodically to bleed out some of the worn out air and pump in
some fresh. I talked him into refilling my tire with genuine fresh air
at no extra charge after he fixed the flat.
And another thing, speaking of "charge," all these folks writing about
their generators and electrical hook-ups, I hope they remember to drain
and collect the unused electricity out of their cords after they unplug;
no sense in letting all that go to waste.
John
WBCCI 4682
with tongue firmly in cheek
Brian Jenkins wrote:
>
> Remember the good old days when we used to talk about nitrogen? Boy
> those were great times, huh?
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:48:09 +0000
From: c-l@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: [VAL] Dometic Question
Just purchased a 1962 Tradewind. It has waht looks to be the original refer. It is a
Dometic. The only numbers I can find are M-50, and Unit Type 75A. I m not sure of
the propane operation, but when I plugged in the trailer to the 110 power source, the
coils inside the unit smell very hot. I did not see any control for temp setting on
110, there is a knob for temp setting when on propane. On the wall, below the thermostat
for the Air, is another control, says Dou-Therm. Does anyone have one of these units,
that could tell me about it? The P/O said they didn't use it because people said it was
unsafe. I could not find the electrical connection for the unit, where is it? Also, near
the top of the unit, there is a hole in the wall, and then seems to travel up the wall
inside the wall to a vent on the roof. Is this a correct set-up. Thanks in advance,
Chuck & Lynn
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:33:06 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dog Poop, etc.
Who was it that brought up methane to use in their tires? Might as well
blow it all out at the same time, eh?
Tom
From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Dog Poop, etc.
> Hello All,
> Remember the good old days when we used to talk about nitrogen? Boy those
> were great times, huh?
> Brian
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:42:54 -0400
From: Bob Patterson <bpatt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] machine shop online
Here's a place you can get parts machined online....a really great idea.
Bob
Web site has machine shop attached
[]
Program aids design, quotes price for work
[]
By Peter Svensson
[]
Associated Press
[]
It's the Internet Revolution meets the Industrial Revolution: a new program
that lets people design 3-D objects such as car parts and door knobs in
metal or plastic, then order them online.
Programs for computer-aided design, or CAD, have been around for decades,
buteMachineShop.com appears to be the first service that checks whether a
design can be made and tells the customer how much it will cost. If the
customer wants the item, the design goes to a ``real world'' machine shop
for manufacturing.
The key to this enterprise is free design software provided by eMachineShop
that aims to be simple enough for hobbyists and other non-engineers.
Prices won't be competitive with Wal-Mart, but Wal-Mart won't make ten
copper door knobs, then sandblast them for you. EmachineShop charges $143
for that.
The company was created by Jim Lewis, a programmer and self-professed
``tinkerer.'' One previous credit: ``the world's hardest sliding block
puzzle.''
Lewis' software company, Micrologic, designed eMachineShop and contracts
with machine shops all over the world to do the manufacturing.
Even though the Midland Park, N.J., company, which has 19 employees,
doesn't advertise, it has handled more than 1,000 orders for things like
door signs, motorcycle seats, robot frames, car engine covers, guitar
plates and camera parts.
The most expensive item it's sold since it began beta testing last year is
a $4,011 aluminum, 26-inch diameter part for a high-powered laboratory magnet.
The customers range from large companies that make prototypes to hobbyists,
including Dennis J. Vegh of Mesa, Ariz., who had the company make metal
parts for an airplane he's building after a 1929 design.
``I had to have the pieces made because they do not exist anywhere,'' Vegh
said.
He found the software quick and easy to use. The quality of the finishing
has varied a bit between orders, but has been acceptable, he said.
``Being able to sit at your home computer, draw up some parts, submit them
and 30 days later they are on your doorstep, all without human contact, is
mind-blowing,'' Vegh said.
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:01:45 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] A whimsical note
I agree, Electicity can freeze inside the generator and fuse boxes and
come spring it can get exciting when it thaws
Daisy (can't resist, tongue nearly through cheek..)
J. Anderson wrote:
> Yeah, Brian, I hear you. I stopped by my local tire place today, had a
> flat on the rear street-side due to a piece of road hardware I picked up
> somewhere between here and Lake Superior, and got to talking with the
> "tire technician" about such matters; seems like those in-the-know up my
> way see no need for nitrogen in one's trailer tires as long as you bring
> 'em in periodically to bleed out some of the worn out air and pump in
> some fresh. I talked him into refilling my tire with genuine fresh air
> at no extra charge after he fixed the flat.
>
> And another thing, speaking of "charge," all these folks writing about
> their generators and electrical hook-ups, I hope they remember to drain
> and collect the unused electricity out of their cords after they unplug;
> no sense in letting all that go to waste.
>
> John
> WBCCI 4682
> with tongue firmly in cheek
>
> Brian Jenkins wrote:
>
>>
>> Remember the good old days when we used to talk about nitrogen? Boy
>> those were great times, huh?
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:17:26 -0500
From: "dtidmore" <dtidmore@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] polarity lite TV mounting
Earl,
The arm is a commercial articulating LCD monitor arm. I ordered it from
www.lcdmonitorarm.com. The model # is ARM835.BK and the quick release VESA
mount that attaches to the TV so as to allow it to be easily removed is
ARM899.BK. Most all LCD monitors and TVs are VESA mount ready, but you can
tell for sure by looking on the back center...if there are 4 threaded holes
several inches apart, then it is VESA mount ready. The website I mentioned
has a world of different mounts, so look around. The one I choose was
perfect for our setup, but you might find one you like better.
Glad you enjoyed the cookies.
david
- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
On Behalf Of Earl Peck
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:07 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] polarity lite TV mounting
Hi David,
While going through the open house at the RMVAC Rally I commented on your
TVswing arm mounting apparatus and was going to get more info. but never got
around to it. ( funny--- had time to eat alot of those cookies though:) ) Do
you have make, model, etc?
Earl Peck
WBCCI 1965
'65 Overlander
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "dtidmore" <dtidmore@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: [VAL] polarity lite is off
> Randy,
> Glad that I could offer some small assistance to the effort.
>
> david
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> On Behalf Of Randy Unter
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:11 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] polarity lite is off
>
> Earl, hey thanks to you, Forrest McClure and David Tidmore for rewiring my
> '66 Overlander at the RM Rally. Seems I hadn't read my original owners
> manual carefully and have been using it with the polarity light on these
> past 7 years. Fortunately I didn't get juiced. Another reason to attend a
> VAC rally; you learn stuff you should have known all along.
> Randy Unter
> Region 11 VAC Rep.
>
> Randy,
> Should work just fine now that the polarity lite is off :)
> Take Care,
> Earl Peck
> 65 Overlander
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:07:28 -0500
From: "dtidmore" <dtidmore@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] A whimsical note
As a EE, I can add a bit more technical basis to this discussion. All
electricity is actually magic smoke. As long as the magic smoke stays
inside the cords, wiring and circuitry, everything is okay, but once that
magic smoke escapes, no more electricity...what do you think was meant by
doing a "smoke test".
david
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From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
On Behalf Of Daisy Welch
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:02 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] A whimsical note
I agree, Electicity can freeze inside the generator and fuse boxes and
come spring it can get exciting when it thaws
Daisy (can't resist, tongue nearly through cheek..)
J. Anderson wrote:
> Yeah, Brian, I hear you. I stopped by my local tire place today, had a
> flat on the rear street-side due to a piece of road hardware I picked up
> somewhere between here and Lake Superior, and got to talking with the
> "tire technician" about such matters; seems like those in-the-know up my
> way see no need for nitrogen in one's trailer tires as long as you bring
> 'em in periodically to bleed out some of the worn out air and pump in
> some fresh. I talked him into refilling my tire with genuine fresh air
> at no extra charge after he fixed the flat.
>
> And another thing, speaking of "charge," all these folks writing about
> their generators and electrical hook-ups, I hope they remember to drain
> and collect the unused electricity out of their cords after they unplug;
> no sense in letting all that go to waste.
>
> John
> WBCCI 4682
> with tongue firmly in cheek
>
> Brian Jenkins wrote:
>
>>
>> Remember the good old days when we used to talk about nitrogen? Boy
>> those were great times, huh?
>
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:59:12 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] A whimsical note
SMOAK TEST???? I had always thought that had something to do with cigars.
Jim Smith
Who quit cigars for health reasons(wifes complaing about the smell was
driving him crasy)
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:39:00 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Polishing
Bob,
Sounds like I have the same Harbor Freight polisher. It is a Chicago brand
and I run it at speed number 4. It is less cumbersome than the converted
drill. Glad to hear the scratches are coming out. Nice to meet you and the
Mrs. at the VAC rally.
Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT
on 8/19/04 2:37 PM, Bob Hightower at rhightower@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:
> Those of you at the RM rally who saw out 'new' '72 Overlander may recall the
> deep scratches left from someone using a sander on the front cap. Since
> getting them out would involve polishing, I decided to do so, and to finish
> the entire trailer.
>
> I got a Cyclo polisher and the DeWalt 1/2" drill, along with an assortment
> of Nuvite, and started off. Deciding to tackle the front cap first, I used
> the drill with bonnet and Nuvite F7. Worked fine, and only took a couple of
> passes to smooth out the scratches, but physically, it was a bear. Even
> working from a scaffold so as to be able to reach the area easily, it was
> tough, due to the configuration of the drill.
>
> While browsing through Harbor Freight this morning, I saw a 7" variable
> speed sander/polisher (Item #46507) on sale for $29.99, and, since I don't
> have one, picked it up. Tried it out on a previously unpolished area with
> the F7, and it worked dvery bit as well as the DeWalt, with less strain, due
> to the right angle design, with the weight naturally falling on the bonnet.
> A heck of a lot less expensive, too.
>
> While the Harbor Freight tool runs at 1000 rpm, a couple of times faster
> than the DeWalt, with care it will not 'burn' the skin. I'm sure I'll use
> the DeWalt when I get to the lower parts of the trailer, but this tool will
> make things much easier for those high, hard to reach areas.
>
> Just thought I'd pass this on.
>
> Bob Hightower
> '72 Overlander
> '76 Sov
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