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VAL Digest           Saturday, July 31 2004           Volume 01 : Number 325




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] FW: Air Conditioning
Re: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning
Re: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning
Re: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning
[VAL] Rocky MtVintage Rally 

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:26:46 -0700
From: "Aaron Bratrude" <abratrud@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning

Hello all,

My '76 31' Rear Bath Sovereign was purchased 8 months ago and luckily
for me all original and all in working condition... piece of cake right?
I now know why vintage airstream owners become life-long addicts... a
burst copper fitting behind the tub, and a handful of other issues. The
one I am most interested in addressing is the AC. I have run the unit
before no problem. Now the air conditioner (after verifying all settings
are appropriate) begins to fire up, only to quickly shut down. While
it's firing up, it's noisy, lot of vibration - the feel of true
Airstream power. But then just shuts down. Fan works, heat works, etc...
as soon as the AC tries to start, it quickly shuts down. I am trying to
run it on normal 110v/20amp power - is that not enough juice?

I need the help of those that are more experienced before I do something
stupid. Thanks.

<http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/EventDetail.aspx?EventID=1032252343&C
ulture=en-US>

Aaron Bratrude

Microsoft Corporation *
Territory Manager
* Phone 800.426.9400 x11594
* Fax 425.706.7329
** Mobile 206.669.5967
*   E-mail abratrud@xxxxxxxxxx.com
**  Local Events http://www.microsoft.com/usa/midwest

Feedback
Creating a positive customer experience is our top priority. We welcome
your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we
provide to you.  You can share your experience with my manager, Carl
Little, by e-mailing him directly at carllitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com  Thank you.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:07:52 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning

Wouldn't the unit act this way also if there is low Freon?  Maybe this is a
safety feature kicking in to protect the unit?  Maybe it's an electrical
problem -- the unit is not getting enough power to *safely* keep from self
destructing?

I'd get the HVAC people to look over your unit before I do something
"stupid".  Asking for help is not "stupid", but acting on what you think may
be the problem when you are not an expert in the field might be.  So, just
don't do that. ;)

Tom

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Bratrude" <abratrud@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning


> Hello all,
>
> My '76 31' Rear Bath Sovereign was purchased 8 months ago and luckily
> for me all original and all in working condition... piece of cake right?
> I now know why vintage airstream owners become life-long addicts... a
> burst copper fitting behind the tub, and a handful of other issues. The
> one I am most interested in addressing is the AC. I have run the unit
> before no problem. Now the air conditioner (after verifying all settings
> are appropriate) begins to fire up, only to quickly shut down. While
> it's firing up, it's noisy, lot of vibration - the feel of true
> Airstream power. But then just shuts down. Fan works, heat works, etc...
> as soon as the AC tries to start, it quickly shuts down. I am trying to
> run it on normal 110v/20amp power - is that not enough juice?
>
> I need the help of those that are more experienced before I do something
> stupid. Thanks.
>
> <http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/EventDetail.aspx?EventID=1032252343&C
> ulture=en-US>
>
> Aaron Bratrude
>
> Microsoft Corporation *
> Territory Manager
> * Phone 800.426.9400 x11594
> * Fax 425.706.7329
> ** Mobile 206.669.5967
> *   E-mail abratrud@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> **  Local Events http://www.microsoft.com/usa/midwest
>
> Feedback
> Creating a positive customer experience is our top priority. We welcome
> your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we
> provide to you.  You can share your experience with my manager, Carl
> Little, by e-mailing him directly at carllitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com  Thank you.
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:09:40 -0400
From: "Tom" <thomm@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning

Also,

You can not plug this unit into your house power and expect it to work
UNLESS you make sure it IS getting the amperage it needs to fire up.

A/C units need MORE power to start than they do to keep running.

How are you hooking up this unit to power ? ? ? ?

Tom
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Bratrude" <abratrud@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning


> Hello all,
>
> My '76 31' Rear Bath Sovereign was purchased 8 months ago and luckily
> for me all original and all in working condition... piece of cake right?
> I now know why vintage airstream owners become life-long addicts... a
> burst copper fitting behind the tub, and a handful of other issues. The
> one I am most interested in addressing is the AC. I have run the unit
> before no problem. Now the air conditioner (after verifying all settings
> are appropriate) begins to fire up, only to quickly shut down. While
> it's firing up, it's noisy, lot of vibration - the feel of true
> Airstream power. But then just shuts down. Fan works, heat works, etc...
> as soon as the AC tries to start, it quickly shuts down. I am trying to
> run it on normal 110v/20amp power - is that not enough juice?
>
> I need the help of those that are more experienced before I do something
> stupid. Thanks.
>
> <http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/EventDetail.aspx?EventID=1032252343&C
> ulture=en-US>
>
> Aaron Bratrude
>
> Microsoft Corporation *
> Territory Manager
> * Phone 800.426.9400 x11594
> * Fax 425.706.7329
> ** Mobile 206.669.5967
> *   E-mail abratrud@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> **  Local Events http://www.microsoft.com/usa/midwest
>
> Feedback
> Creating a positive customer experience is our top priority. We welcome
> your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we
> provide to you.  You can share your experience with my manager, Carl
> Little, by e-mailing him directly at carllitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com  Thank you.
>
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> When replying to a message. please delete all unnecessary original text
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:32:00 -0500
From: overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] FW: Air Conditioning

Greetings Aaron!

You are correct in assumption that your ordinary 20 AMP
household outlet isn't providing enough power to adequately
address the needs of your air conditioning unit - -
especially if it is the original Armstrong Bay Breeze.  I
learned my lesson the hard way - - burned out the compressor
on my '64 Overlander's Bay Breeze trying to operate it on a
dedicated 20 AMP outlet in the garage.  If you wish to use
your air conditioner while parked at home, a properly
installed 30 AMP circuit with the appropriate outlet is
cheap insurance for your air conditioner's health.  I just
had a 30 AMP outlet installed at the house that I am moving
into in August, and the total installed cost was less than
$125.00.

Good luck with your Soveriegn!

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers/Computer Club #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400
VORTEC/4.10 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)


> Hello all,
>
> My '76 31' Rear Bath Sovereign was purchased 8 months ago
> and luckily for me all original and all in working
> condition... piece of cake right? I now know why vintage
> airstream owners become life-long addicts... a burst
> copper fitting behind the tub, and a handful of other
> issues. The one I am most interested in addressing is the
> AC. I have run the unit before no problem. Now the air
> conditioner (after verifying all settings are appropriate)
> begins to fire up, only to quickly shut down. While it's
> firing up, it's noisy, lot of vibration - the feel of true
> Airstream power. But then just shuts down. Fan works, heat
> works, etc... as soon as the AC tries to start, it quickly
> shuts down. I am trying to run it on normal 110v/20amp
> power - is that not enough juice?
>
> I need the help of those that are more experienced before
> I do something stupid. Thanks.
>
> <http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/EventDetail.aspx?EventI
> D=1032252343&C ulture=en-US>
>
> Aaron Bratrude
>
> Microsoft Corporation *
> Territory Manager
> * Phone 800.426.9400 x11594
> * Fax 425.706.7329
> ** Mobile 206.669.5967
> *   E-mail abratrud@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> **  Local Events http://www.microsoft.com/usa/midwest
>
> Feedback
> Creating a positive customer experience is our top
> priority. We welcome your comments and suggestions about
> how we can improve the support we provide to you.  You can
> share your experience with my manager, Carl Little, by
> e-mailing him directly at carllitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com  Thank
> you.
>
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> ------- When replying to a message. please delete all
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:10:47 -0600
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Rocky MtVintage Rally 

Wow neat-o and I get to see the great computer god Tom Patterson and his 
lively wife Marylin in person and The great historian Fred Coldwell and 
our man in the west Randy Unter and scores of others.

There are 70 vintage trailers here ! I'll do high lights later.

Just so's ya know, if you can possible come to this rally, you really 
ought to. Shari Davis is the tops when it comes to organizing a rally.

And I thought you should know, that as I was taking the empties out of 
their bin, there, tangled up with plastic bags was....my Lansing Rally 
ticket....it must have been hitting the sauce....

Daisy, in Colorado Springs

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