VAL Digest V1 #298

VAL Digest            Sunday, July 4 2004            Volume 01 : Number 298




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] shocks and axles
[VAL] RE: highway help
[VAL] Re:FW: highway help
Re: [VAL] RE: highway help
Re: [VAL] '60 Tradewind frozen lock
Re: [VAL] '60 Tradewind frozen lock
Re: [VAL] '60 Tradewind frozen lock

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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 00:07:11 -0700
From: Stan Nicholson <stan@xxxxxxxxxx.ucsb.edu>
Subject: [VAL] shocks and axles

Chris -

There's a description and some illustrations on Inland RV's website at:

http://inlandrv.com/articles/dura-torque-axle-92001.htm

In case it's not obvious, the axle springing medium (and therefore 
the pivot point for the torsion arms) is the squarish thing on the 
right of the trailing arm drawing. In other words, the front of the 
trailer is to the right.

Stan (in the process of replacing the axles on our '72 Overlander, 
which have positive trailing arm angle)


>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:41:54 -0500
>From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>Subject: [VAL] Re2: shocks and axles
>
>Thanks for your responses Dr J and Jim.
>Dr. J, is there a visual representation of the trailing angle of the
>arms you can direct me toward? I'm having a hard time grasping that
>one.
>Cheers,
>
>Chris
>#8638
>pulled the 1979 @31' 400 miles to Des Moines yesterday..
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 00:09:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Leggett <pklhead2@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] RE: highway help

Pete-
The gaps in the corners of the rear door frame that you are seeing sound like 
what is attributed to Frame Separation.  That is, when the bolts holding the 
upper shell to the floor frame part, the undercarriage and floor sags and the 
monocoque shell springs upwards.  I started seeing the same thing on my 68 
Safari and took it down to Andy's Inland RV where they opened the outer skin at 
the corners, rebolted the floor to the shell and then welded additional bracing 
under the ladder frame for additional support.  Buttoned up the skin and you'd 
never know.  
 
So it's not terminal but it won't be cheap either.
 
John Leggett
San Francisco
1968 Safari
 
- - ----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Ryner" <pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: [VAL] FW: highway help


> Hi all,
> We are in the middle of our second trip in our renovated '68 
Ambassador.
No
> problems until we left Virginia heading for Kentucky.  Left 
Williamsburg
in
> the rain and had a lot of traffic for a while.  WV roads were really
rough.
> Stopped for a break about 150 miles out of Williamsburg and found the 
back
> door missing along with the our license plate!  I also noticed that 
the
door
> frame was starting to crack on both sides and the back was starting 
to
> droop.  I had fixed the rotten floor a  couple of years ago and 
replaced
all
> of the bolts making a good solid and waterproof rear connection.  
There
was
> a gap because of the rotten floor, but none of the dreaded rear sag.  
Made
a
> trip from Salt Lake to Tampa with absolutely no problems so I thought 
we
had
> it made.
>
> It is now several days later in Indiana and things are getting worse.  
The
> cracks are getting larger, we are shearing rivits along the rear trim 
and
we
> have probably sagged a 1/2' now.  I contacted airstream and we are
dropping
> the trailer off for repair on Monday.  They didn't know if they could 
help
> or not but will check the trailer out sometime in July.  After 
looking at
> the archives, it appears that our frame is bending and we will need a 
beef
> up plate.  Hopefully it won't bend too far on the trip over to Ohio 
so a
> repair can be made.
>
> If anyone happens to see a trailer door with Florida plates on I-64 
WB
> between Williamsburg and WV please contact me off list.  I'll be glad 
to
pay
> for its return.
>
> If you any good words of encouragement we would love to hear from 
you.
> Pete


		
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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 07:32:43 -0500
From: "Louis Joyner" <joyner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re:FW: highway help

Peter

My deepest sympathy, and I hope you make it to Ohio.  Observable cracks in
the frame would have me prostrate with anxiety.  What a vacation.  Let us
know how it works out in the end.

Louis
'64 Overlander (with some suspicious frame conditions too)

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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 7:45:36 -0500
From: <pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: highway help

John,
I repaired the frame separation a few years ago when I had the trailer apart.  
The problem I have now is that the rear body is attached to the frame and the 
frame is sagging.  Instead of the body separating from the frame, the body is 
tearing around the door opening.  I'll let you all know what AS says.  

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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 13:21:50 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] '60 Tradewind frozen lock

Rick,

Do you have the original door handle on your tradewind (Bargman L-77)? If so
the bottom part of the pull handle has nothing to do with the lock cylinder,
there should be nothing to jam those two items. The L-77 locking mechanism
tends to wear out, they just wear to a point that you can't lock or unlock
it. But that doesn't answer your question as to why you can't turn the key.
If I remember correctly you have to turn one direction to lock and the other
to unlock, this sounds normal, but I seem to remember that one direction
there was very little travel and the other requires nearly a whole turn.

Scott
'60 Overlander

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Kunath" <k9ao@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Vintage Airstream List" <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: [VAL] '60 Tradewind frozen lock


> The door lock cylinder of the old Tradewind has frozen and will not rotate
> with the key.
>
> I'm wondering if this is something anyone has any insight about. I'd like
to
> get the lock freed up without breaking the door handle in the process.
I've
> tried lubrication, but wonder if the lower part of the handle might be
part
> of the problem.
>
> Any ideas will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Rick Kunath

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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:17:20 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] '60 Tradewind frozen lock

www.kanolabs.com
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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:34:45 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald Johnson" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] '60 Tradewind frozen lock

www.kanolabs.com
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.

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