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Re: [VAL] free Airstream
[VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
Re: [VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
Re: [VAL] free Airstream
Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
RE: [VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Re: [VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Re: [VAL] hubcaps
Re: [VAL] hubcaps
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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 22:29:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] free Airstream
I'm rusty, but this sounds like a 1960 overlander 26'
with twin beds?
am I right?
Toby
- --- JP Polly <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> I got a phone call from a man in my town who has an
> Airstream to give away.
> I have not seen it yet, he gave me some numbers and
> a description on the
> phone. He was going to hire someone to cut it up and
> haul it away until
> someone gave him my name as the "Airstream Lady" (I
> have three in my yard)
> Here's what he told me. It has been been used as a
> playhouse in the past,
> has had the wheels removed and a cement pad poured
> in front as a porch. It
> has been painted red to match the house and barn
> where it resides. It has
> been used only by mice for years but the floor
> appears to be sound from
> what he can tell so far. He thinks it is one of the
> smaller models. Here
> are the numbers from the plate by the door as he
> gave them to me on the
> phone. M-4 then S-06132512 he also found these 26TS
> and A4188 on the
> plates. I can't remember how to decipher the number
> code. You can contact
> me jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net for more information if you
> are interested in this
> project.
> Polly in CO
>
>
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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 22:39:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
Hey all. I just ran across something - If you find an
old airstream that is a complete bodywork shambles,
but the person is practically giving it away, here's
the ticket:
(sorry, had to create a scenario there)
you hammer out the dents and dings, do standard
automotive body work on it, and paint it with this:
http://www.alsacorp.com/products/mirrachrome/mirra_show.htm
also an option for argosys that are tired of being
white!
the same company has a "mood ring" type paint that
changes colors when hit with light, or heat too!
http://www.alsacorp.com/products/xposurepaint/xposurepaint_show.htm
Just wanted to show you all. I'm always on the
lookout for cool things.
Toby
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:06:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Birdsong <tbirddog7@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
Toby : That was way too cool ! It gives a lot of hope to the hopeless/hapless.Thanks,Tom B.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:13:28 -0600
From: "JP Polly" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] free Airstream
I have not seen the trailer - I am only going by the number he gave me -
but I think the 26' sounds correct. He lives in the mountains above town
and the trailer is not visible from the highway - I didn't know it was
there until he called me. I plan to go and see it when I get a chance (I
am working again after being retired for a few years).
Polly in CO
> [Original Message]
> From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Date: 6/27/04 11:29:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] free Airstream
>
> I'm rusty, but this sounds like a 1960 overlander 26'
> with twin beds?
>
> am I right?
>
> Toby
>
> --- JP Polly <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> > I got a phone call from a man in my town who has an
> > Airstream to give away.
> > I have not seen it yet, he gave me some numbers and
> > a description on the
> > phone. He was going to hire someone to cut it up and
> > haul it away until
> > someone gave him my name as the "Airstream Lady" (I
> > have three in my yard)
> > Here's what he told me. It has been been used as a
> > playhouse in the past,
> > has had the wheels removed and a cement pad poured
> > in front as a porch. It
> > has been painted red to match the house and barn
> > where it resides. It has
> > been used only by mice for years but the floor
> > appears to be sound from
> > what he can tell so far. He thinks it is one of the
> > smaller models. Here
> > are the numbers from the plate by the door as he
> > gave them to me on the
> > phone. M-4 then S-06132512 he also found these 26TS
> > and A4188 on the
> > plates. I can't remember how to decipher the number
> > code. You can contact
> > me jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net for more information if you
> > are interested in this
> > project.
> > Polly in CO
> >
> >
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:15:31 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
In restoring my 58 I'm using birch plywood, poplar trim/facing and staining
with minwax colonial maple and finishing with man-o-war satin varnish -
looks great. Tried watco - I think its a cold finish.
Ken
At 08:00 PM 06/27/04 -0700, you wrote:
>As homage to some of the early wood interiors, we'd like to use some birch
>(a bit of trim here, a bit of ply there) in the updating of our '73
>Safari. Question: what kinds of sealer/finish have produced good results
>for you? Our definition of "good results" in this situation would be:
>
> non glossy--'satin' or less--and,
>
> non-yellowing over time.
>
>TIA,
>
>Rob
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:03:24 -0600
From: "Eric F. Holm" <eholm@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
Hi Toby,
Check the pricing though... At $1,200 a gallon it might be less expensive
to buy all new aluminum.
- -Eric
- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
On Behalf Of Toby Folwick
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:39 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
Hey all. I just ran across something - If you find an
old airstream that is a complete bodywork shambles,
but the person is practically giving it away, here's
the ticket:
(sorry, had to create a scenario there)
you hammer out the dents and dings, do standard
automotive body work on it, and paint it with this:
http://www.alsacorp.com/products/mirrachrome/mirra_show.htm
also an option for argosys that are tired of being
white!
the same company has a "mood ring" type paint that
changes colors when hit with light, or heat too!
http://www.alsacorp.com/products/xposurepaint/xposurepaint_show.htm
Just wanted to show you all. I'm always on the
lookout for cool things.
Toby
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:22:25 -0400
From: "Wally" <maltnhops@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Ken,
Just curious... Are you putting the wood over the existing aluminum
interior skins or replacing the aluminum completely? It seems there might
be advantages to both methods. Losing the original skins would shed the
weight. Keeping them in place would allow for more places to screw or
rivet wood panels. The aluminum panels could also aid in water damage
prevention if there were leaks in the exterior skin. I'm not sure if
there's a right or wrong way to approach this. I'm just wondering what has
worked for you. Are you doing the entire inside, including the ceiling and
endcaps?
Thanks,
Wally
'66 Caravel, Percy
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> In restoring my 58 I'm using birch plywood, poplar trim/facing and
staining
> with minwax colonial maple and finishing with man-o-war satin varnish -
> looks great. Tried watco - I think its a cold finish.
>
> Ken
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:57:49 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
At 12:22 PM 06/28/04 -0400, you wrote:
>Ken,
>Yes, I'm using original aluminum skins - I think they would be pretty
>difficult to duplicate. The interior skin - I think - adds to the overall
>structural strength to the trailer so I think its important to keep
>them. I will be completely refinishing the whole interior including the
>endcaps.
Not sure the interior skin will help with leaks though, to me all it will
do is rearrange where the water ends up and make it more difficult to find
the leak - its important to track down those leaks - although I think if
you can find and successfully fix all the leaks, you can probably solve
world peace :)
Ken
> Just curious... Are you putting the wood over the existing aluminum
>interior skins or replacing the aluminum completely? It seems there might
>be advantages to both methods. Losing the original skins would shed the
>weight. Keeping them in place would allow for more places to screw or
>rivet wood panels. The aluminum panels could also aid in water damage
>prevention if there were leaks in the exterior skin. I'm not sure if
>there's a right or wrong way to approach this. I'm just wondering what has
>worked for you. Are you doing the entire inside, including the ceiling and
>endcaps?
>
>Thanks,
>Wally
>'66 Caravel, Percy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>
> > In restoring my 58 I'm using birch plywood, poplar trim/facing and
>staining
> > with minwax colonial maple and finishing with man-o-war satin varnish -
> > looks great. Tried watco - I think its a cold finish.
> >
> > Ken
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:43:04 -0400
From: "Wally" <maltnhops@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Ken,
True, the interior skin won't help stop leaks. I was only suggesting
that it might prevent damage to the wood by, as you said, re-routing the
water somewhere else.
I'm in the process of removing all the interior skins from my Caravel. It's
very interesting to see where the water has been. What's more interesting
(and frustrating) is seeing where the mice have been. Some areas look
absolutely brand new while others have been completely ravaged by the
rodents. It there's an opening , they'll find it.
Good luck on your project. I would love to see some pictures.
~Wally
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>
> Not sure the interior skin will help with leaks though, to me all it will
> do is rearrange where the water ends up and make it more difficult to find
> the leak - its important to track down those leaks - although I think if
> you can find and successfully fix all the leaks, you can probably solve
> world peace :)
>
> Ken
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:36:15 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Wally
Have the mice gotten into the walls? Usually they get into the belly. I
just pulled out a very old and very dried up mouse out of belly of my 58 -
must have been a brother to the one I pulled out of my 59 (since sold)
Traveler - they both looked just alike, probably 40 years old.
So now that I've seen the same mouse in two trailers with no other evidence
of mice - does that tell me that if a mouse dies and shrivells up under
your trailer, does that tell any other mice "look what happened to me" :)
- - and so you don't get any more? Wondering if I should put this one back -
hee hee.
Anyway, if I remember to take your e-mail address home with me tonight,
I'll e-mail you a couple cabinet pic's
Ken
At 03:43 PM 06/28/04 -0400, you wrote:
>Ken,
>
> True, the interior skin won't help stop leaks. I was only suggesting
>that it might prevent damage to the wood by, as you said, re-routing the
>water somewhere else.
>
>I'm in the process of removing all the interior skins from my Caravel. It's
>very interesting to see where the water has been. What's more interesting
>(and frustrating) is seeing where the mice have been. Some areas look
>absolutely brand new while others have been completely ravaged by the
>rodents. It there's an opening , they'll find it.
>
>Good luck on your project. I would love to see some pictures.
>
>~Wally
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>
> >
> > Not sure the interior skin will help with leaks though, to me all it will
> > do is rearrange where the water ends up and make it more difficult to find
> > the leak - its important to track down those leaks - although I think if
> > you can find and successfully fix all the leaks, you can probably solve
> > world peace :)
> >
> > Ken
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:17:58 -0700
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] For vintage airstreams that need a ton of bodywork.
That looks amazing. and it is definitely a "cool thing".
jo ann
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:44:51 -0400
From: "Wally" <maltnhops@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Ken,
My experience so far (2 vintage Airstreams) is that once they get in the
belly, they have the run of the place. There are plenty of large holes cut
in the floor for drain pipes that allow them easy access to the inside of
the trailer. What I couldn't figure out with my Caravel was how the mice
we able to make a nest behind the fiberglass insert for the overhead cabinet
over the front window. Once I tore it all apart, the answer was obvious.
The water filler pipe enters the front of the trailer under the sofa. The
round pipe comes through a rectangular hole in the interior skin. Of course
the tank and filler pipe provides a nice easy entry for them into the wall.
Once inside, they chewed their way up the wall and into the open cavity
behind the cabinet insert. Because the fiberglass insert for this cabinet
is not a perfect fit (gaps at the corners) they had an easy way inside the
overhead cabinet. Of course, that meant they could exit the other side and
head down the inside of the wall on the other side of the trailer, all the
while leaving a disgusting mess behind them.
When I'm done, I'll be rodent-free. The trick will be keeping it that way.
~Wally
- ----- Original Message -----
> Wally
>
> Have the mice gotten into the walls? Usually they get into the belly.
>
> Ken
>
> At 03:43 PM 06/28/04 -0400, you wrote:
> >Ken,
> >
> > True, the interior skin won't help stop leaks. I was only
suggesting
> >that it might prevent damage to the wood by, as you said, re-routing the
> >water somewhere else.
> >
> >I'm in the process of removing all the interior skins from my Caravel.
It's
> >very interesting to see where the water has been. What's more
interesting
> >(and frustrating) is seeing where the mice have been. Some areas look
> >absolutely brand new while others have been completely ravaged by the
> >rodents. It there's an opening , they'll find it.
> >
> >Good luck on your project. I would love to see some pictures.
> >
> >~Wally
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <johansen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> >
> > >
> > > Not sure the interior skin will help with leaks though, to me all it
will
> > > do is rearrange where the water ends up and make it more difficult to
find
> > > the leak - its important to track down those leaks - although I think
if
> > > you can find and successfully fix all the leaks, you can probably
solve
> > > world peace :)
> > >
> > > Ken
> >
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:14:46 -0500
From: "J. Anderson" <janderson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Lurching to birching
Minwax Polyshades "Olde Maple" over birch is what I am using right now
in my cabinet refinishing. It is available in either satin or gloss. It
is a stain and polyurethane mix, and I am extremely pleased with the
result.
Like some others, I have used Watco finishes and been not fully satisfied.
Good luck--would like to see pictures of the finished product.
John
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:48:01 EDT
From: M1492@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] hubcaps
try www.eHubcaps.com thay have moon typ!
mark
67 safari
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:45:22 -0600
From: Robert Davis <rob-iod@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] hubcaps
M1492@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>try www.eHubcaps.com thay have moon typ!
>
>
Here's another link:
http://www.coker.com/store/customer/home.php
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