VAL Digest V1 #249

VAL Digest            Sunday, May 16 2004            Volume 01 : Number 249




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] Messages not received
Re: [VAL] Messages not received
[VAL] Ad from National Geographic,  September 1957
RE: [VAL] black water valve repair
Re: [VAL] Black tank Valve
Re: [VAL] Ad from National Geographic,  September 1957
Re: [VAL] replacement A/C
Re: [VAL] Ad from National Geographic,  September 1957

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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 05:02:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jaco <jaco7431@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Messages not received

T Patterson wrote:

Meanwhile, I have made all old digests available on
the site, in the VintageAirstream e-mail section. 
This contains all digest issued since inception of
this list.  It is only updated sporatically, when I
get around to it, but I will do so at the time that
anyone is looking for a current issue
andcontactsme.-Tom

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Tom are you simply referring to the edited archives
you regularly save and post at your place ? 
Or are you describing the unedited digests as they
would normally come to those who subscribe digest
style?
I have searched your site to no avail if you are
talking of making available the un-edited digests.
Would you mind furnishing a URL or link to what you
are talking about? 
 
Isn't there a command that can be sent to Majordomo to
retrieve archives? If that is not enabled would it not
make your job easier? i.e. is there a downside to
utilizing that majordome feature?
(cost,bandwidth,etc.?)

Thanks
jaco
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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:15:15 -0500
From: "Tom Patterson" <tommyjoe@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Messages not received

As I indicated in my message, I have made all of the old digests themselves
available.  These are in addition to edited copies of the regular messages
which I have been archiving all along on the site.  A link to them is found
on the same page as the link to the edited messages, immediately below the
edited messages link.  From the home page, click on Trailers, and then on
Airstream Trailers.

At this point, the Majordomo command to retrieve archives is not enabled.
One or two members might know how to use the command, but most would not,
and it is easier for most to follow the links on the website to find the
messages.  Please note that this is hardly a buried link.  It is on the
first page of the Airstream section.

Disk space is not a problem at this point, but if I start running out of
space, probably I will remove the digests from the site.

I don't know how you went about searching the site for these digests.  If
you used the search engine, be aware that it is only updated weekly, early
on Sunday morning, so that it may not have contained the terms which you
were using in your search.  The digest page has existed for months, but has
not contained all digests.  The link to it is new however.

- -Tom



> T Patterson wrote:
>
> Meanwhile, I have made all old digests available on
> the site, in the VintageAirstream e-mail section.
> This contains all digest issued since inception of
> this list.  It is only updated sporatically, when I
> get around to it, but I will do so at the time that
> anyone is looking for a current issue
> andcontactsme.-Tom
>
> ======================================
> Tom are you simply referring to the edited archives
> you regularly save and post at your place ?
> Or are you describing the unedited digests as they
> would normally come to those who subscribe digest
> style?
> I have searched your site to no avail if you are
> talking of making available the un-edited digests.
> Would you mind furnishing a URL or link to what you
> are talking about?
>
> Isn't there a command that can be sent to Majordomo to
> retrieve archives? If that is not enabled would it not
> make your job easier? i.e. is there a downside to
> utilizing that majordome feature?
> (cost,bandwidth,etc.?)
>
> Thanks
> jaco
> ==============================

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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 07:59:24 -0700
From: Susan Altstatt <dsa@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Ad from National Geographic,  September 1957

Found on the penultimate page.

http://www.altstatt.com/~dsa/airstream/life-begins-with-airstream.jpg

- -- 
Susan Altstatt
www.altstatt.com

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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:17:09 -0600
From: "jcchome" <jcchome@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] black water valve repair

Dr. Johnson,

Slab base nuts look like they will work fine.  I picked up some at the
hardware store to try, and will order stainless.  Thanks for the
suggestion.

Best Regards,
   Jim
 
   jcchome@xxxxxxxxxx.com
   
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> On Behalf Of Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:03 AM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] black water valve repair
> 
> The slab base nuts aren't coupling nuts. They are a ready made
> alternative to machining the coupling nuts. They are like T nuts used
in
> woodworking without the prongs and with the base clipped to make the
> slab base and from McMaster-Carr they come in stainless steel. They
are
> intended to be welded into channels for some specific application.
> Modified T nuts could be used but they will rust rapidly in that
> particular environment and leave a mess worse than epoxy. Look up the
> stainless steel slab nuts on www.mcmaster.com by the part number I
gave
> which was for 1/4-20 and you will see the page with the available
sizes.
> 
> Gerald J.
> --
> Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
> Reproduction by permission only.
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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:15:50 -0600 (MDT)
From: Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Black tank Valve

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Gary wrote:

> I finally tested the valve on my black water tank last week and it
> leaked. Okay, maybe that should have been the first thing I checked, but
> it is time to face up to it. Surprizingly, it was easy to remove. The
> former owner had a patch sheet metal screwed in place and with that
> removed everything was easy to get to. The little spring clip the held

	Hi Gary, I was camped in my 1976 rear bath airstream and when I 
pulled the black water handle it came clear out! I looked under the 
trailer and no-one has made a patch for me but I will make myself one 
for sure! 

	You didn't have to do it but I will need to remove the entire 
cover to get at the valve. It looks like about 20 bolts and the whole 
thing comes off. Do I need to watch out for thing falling out never to 
work again?



> the T handle on came out with some twisting and then the T handle was
> remove out of the little side hole on the side underbelly. The brass
> valve body has two gray water inlets above the black water outlet. the
> screws were easy to remove that held the valve to the tank. So there it
> was... my greatest Airstream fear laid out in front of me, Black water
> problems. The valve was easy to take apart and the problem very obvious.
> The big O-ring was pinched and a bit gunked up. The brass sliding door
> caught the O-ring when it was being pushed closed and that was that. The
> gasket between the body halves was also leaking during to water test.
> This is a thin square gasket. The third round gasket fit between the
> tank and the valve itself.
> I have read that rebuilt kits are no longer made and that these valves
> are no longer available. It looks as if these gaskets can all be made up
> and replaced by automotive type gasket material. Has anyone had success
> or failure trying this? Is it new black tank and new plastic waste valve
> time?  Maybe there is a Company that specializes in Airstream black
> water tank and valve problems. I would name it "Airstream BadDreams".
> Gary Campbell
> Portland,  ME
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               - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions -

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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 18:59:48 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Ad from National Geographic,  September 1957

What a great picture, Susan.  Any idea the year model of the automobile?
Looks to be maybe a very early 1950's Chevrolet sedan perhaps.

Tom
WBCCI 5303

P.S.  In the past did you give away a tow vehicle that was really old and
needed a lot of work?  I'm thinking that maybe it was a Jeep product.  Have
I mistaken you for someone else?  If I recall correctly the vehicle needed
to be towed from a city in CA.

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Altstatt" <dsa@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: [VAL] Ad from National Geographic, September 1957


> Found on the penultimate page.
>
> http://www.altstatt.com/~dsa/airstream/life-begins-with-airstream.jpg
>
> -- 
> Susan Altstatt
> www.altstatt.com
>
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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:24:13 EDT
From: Hmcsteph@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] replacement A/C

In my 69 safari, this was untrue. I ordered the penquin based on this email. 
I had to cut a 14 x 14 opening and fabricate a 1 3/4 inch wood frame to get it 
to work. This was not a simple job, and I consider myself a seasoned mechanic 
and i am a licensed electrician.
 Now, since the penguin did not make an exact fit, I have unsightly gaps in 
my ceiling that I need to fill in.
The penguin controls also had to be bent to allow for the roof design. This 
created the oppurtunity to drill out the knob opening to allow for the tapered 
ceiling, so the knobs would fit.
The original a/c had the condenser and coils both above and below the 
ceiling. the only holes in the roof were the ones for the fan shaft (3/4 inch), the 
refrigerant lines (2 inch), and two small holes for the electrical. I cut all 
this area out to allow for the penguin.
Don't get me wrong, the penguin is cooling great now, but it is far from an 
exact fit!!!

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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 19:28:33 -0500
From: "Buddy" <buddat@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Ad from National Geographic,  September 1957

".............Looks to be maybe a very early 1950's Chevrolet sedan
perhaps.....".

Tom. it looks like a 53 or 54 Chrysler to me. It's a neat looking rig, isn't
it?

Buddy

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