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VAL Digest Wednesday, May 12 2004 Volume 01 : Number 245
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Topics in Today's Digest:
RE: [VAL] Satellite Service?
Re: [VAL] phillips window hardware (jim greene)
Re: [VAL] ebay 2478196014
Re: [VAL] ebay 2478196014
Re: [VAL] phillips window hardware (jim greene)
[VAL] 1948 Airstream 22 for sale
Re: [VAL] need a raise...
[VAL] sever outlet question
[VAL] '64 GT electrical question
Re: [VAL] '64 GT electrical question
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:08:00 -0400
From: "Kiki Pollard" <kiki@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Satellite Service?
Dave,
I've gotten behind in reading my emails so I just saw yours last night.
I know you've gotten several replies but thought I would add mine to
your research in case you haven't made a decision yet. We have DishTV.
We've been very pleased with them and appreciate their quality technical
service. Of course, this is the first time we've had Satellite so we
have no comparisons with other providers. I checked with the company to
be sure it would be legal to take the receiver with us when we travel.
It was. So we bought the extra Satellite dish which we leave with the
trailer and just take our receiver from home with us. No additional
monthly fees on our bill. No problem with not having it hooked up to a
phone. We rarely watch pay-per-view, but we still could by calling up
and ordering a movie. We're lucky that our service is out of Atlanta.
Apparently for local channels they are going to spot beam for each city
which can't be received on the road without a major hassle of changing
to a local address and then changing back when you get home. Atlanta
and most of the larger cities are not spot, so we get all our channels
on the road. If your home service receives programming from two
satellites, be sure you get the dish which can pick up both. Otherwise,
you'll have to switch from satellite to satellite to view all the
programming you're used to. That would be a hassle.
We missed getting to the WDCU rally last year and won't be going this
year either. I hope you've been having some good trips. We've missed
seeing you and Ann.
Kiki Pollard
'75 Excella 500
Madison, GA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Lowrey
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:59 AM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] Satellite Service?
>
> I have a few questions for the folks who have Satellite TV service for
> their trailer.
>
> Who do you have your service with, and how did you set the service up?
>
> Ideally, I would like one "subscription" that I can use both in my
home,
> then also use on the road. I assume I will have to use the same
receiver
> for both.
>
> Do you tell the service you are doing this or did you just get it set
up
> for home and then took it on the road without telling the service?
>
> I don't use pay-per-view, so I assume I don't need a phone line hookup
> when
> taking the receiver on the road.
>
> Any suggestions or tips would be welcomed....
>
> Dave
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Dave & Ann Lowrey - dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>
> WBCCI: 5074
>
> 1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
> Cincinnati, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:22:28 -0600
From: "Forrest" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: [VAL] phillips window hardware (jim greene)
Hello Harry,
I have a '66 GT with the same situation on the windows, except that I just
recently replaced the plastic street side window with Corning. The plastic
bowed at the bottom and you will find that after awhile it will bow at the
corners too. There are only two Phillips fasteners on the street side window
because with the Corning glass that was all that was needed. However, I have
glass on the rear window, where there are three fasteners, but for a long
time I was missing a retaining clip, so could only use two fasteners. I
never had leakage or any other problem just using two. You might consider
removing the middle Phillips from the rear window and moving it over to the
street side until you find a new one.
Forrest
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From: "Stan Truitt" <stan.truitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
i had to replace the large curved window on street side with lexan and
stainless steel frames. it works fairly well but bows a bit in the middle at
the bottom allowing for air and water infiltration. i am curious also why
the other two large windows (front and back) have three locks but the street
side only has two. all three windows are identical other than that. my
intention is to add a third one to seal it up. any ideas on availability?
thanks for your help
harry truitt
66 safari
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:35:28 -0600
From: "Forrest" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: [VAL] ebay 2478196014
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2478196014
Some people have more money than cents! It might make a nice office, but as
a camper it leaves a lot to be desired. No bath, no galley. The price
probably is more a reflection of the cost of the cabinetry than of the
Airstream. Of course, by scouring (scourging?) the exterior to give it that
contemporary industrial buffed stainless steel look (often found on the
inside of ELEVATORS), they have ruined it as a collectable vintage
Airstream. About the only thing that could be done to salvage it would be to
paint it silver.
Forrest
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From: "Chris Elliott" <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] ebay 2478196014
> Its got to be a joke or something .....check it out . Maybe he got tired
of
> polishing ?
> Chris
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:45:57 -0500
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <chasm@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] ebay 2478196014
On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:35:28 -0600, "Forrest" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org> wrote:
>
>Airstream. About the only thing that could be done to salvage it would be to
>paint it silver.
after sanding it smooth(er)
sad to see such vandalism
chas
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Charles L Hamilton, chasm@xxxxxxxxxx.net Houston, TX
WBCCI/WDCU #1130 VAC S*M*A*R*T
'76 Sovereign '02 E350 SD PSD, Prodigy, Pullrite
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:47:04 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] phillips window hardware (jim greene)
.......There are only two Phillips fasteners on the street side window
> because with the Corning glass that was all that was needed........
>
> Forrest
Maybe not. My '67 has 3 grabbers on all but the narrow 17" windows. Then
in '68 I noticed they went back to 2 on the large side ones, but apparently
added the metal edging to make up for it.
GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:21:26 -0400
From: "Dash7 (Michigan)" <dash7_@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] 1948 Airstream 22 for sale
The Grand Rapids Press on Mothers Day had a classified ad for an estate
sale on May 15th and 16th in Sparta, Michigan (about 20 miles north of GR)
and one of the items being offered is a 22 1948 Airstream. The owner says
he has owned several Airstreams and this one is in decent shape. Asking
price $5000. Call the owner @ (616) 887-2187 for more info.
Don (MI) 5377
98 Excella 25
98 Dodge Cummins
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Date: Tue, 11 May 04 20:53:41 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] need a raise...
>The wheels that came with it are 14.5 inches (can't
>find a 3rd for a spare) and the trailer is very low.
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The previous owner of my 1956, 16' Bubble had a similar problem and
solved it by replacing the axle with one from a small Nissan pickup truck
at an agency dealing with stock/ utility trailers. The vendor indicated
the leaf springs were in good shape and reused them. The trailer was
actually raised about 4 inches or about the same distance as the offset
of the original axle. After some poor luck with a name brand 225-15, 6
ply radials which lasted about two years I am now using Carlisle, 8 ply.
They are listed as 29 inches in diameter and a tight fit to get on but I
hope to get better mileage then from the radials.
The trailer had two banana skin panels, just forward of wheels on each
side that had rusted thru. To correct this I found a similar quality
aluminum at a metal fabricating shop and had them cut to about 20" in
length. They then put them in a monster 16' press to shape them or bend
them to approximate shape of a card board pattern I had made. I drilled
out the Olympic rivets holding the damaged panels to the upper side
panels and fitted the new pieces over the exists damaged panels and
under the upper body panel. I then drilled and riveted thru the old
holes. The pieces turned under about 10 inches at the bottom and I
used both pop rivets and stainless steel screws (1 inch intervals) to
attach bottom to the existing belly pan. As you know the belly pan is
shaped up to form the banana skin at the bottom edges so removing the
damaged pieces did not seem practical or desirable without creating a
larger patching job. I ground the Olympic rivets down with a small
grinder wheel in a elect. drill and delicatly smoothed them down, plus
used small hand file and even an emory board to get a reasonably smooth
rounded finish. If you look closely you can note some imperfections but
from the locale of the rivets, and after polishing the trailer, its hard
to note the difference.
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:06:16 EDT
From: FRYDMANS@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] sever outlet question
Dear list members:
Just bought a 27' 1971 Overlander on Ebay from a seller that kept problems to
himself.
I have a lot of projects to say the least.
My first surprise was the placement of the sever outlet in the rear bumper
...Very difficult to work on. Has anyone moved the outlet to the driver's side
through the bumper ??? any other ideas would be helpful ...This is a
Thedford(sp) system. Thank you all in advance
Steve Frydman
Mequon, WI
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:01:08 -0600
From: Rob Davis <rob-iod@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] '64 GT electrical question
We have a '64 GlobeTrotter with the original 30 amp. electrical cord
with an original pigtail to adapt to a standard 15 amp receptacle.
Based on our internet research, the existing original plug is a 30 amp.,
NEMA 10-30p. Obviously this will not plug into a modern/standard
campground pedestal which provides a 30 amp., ANSI C73.13 / NEMA TT-30R
receptacle. When we are at a campground which provides 15 amp
receptacles all is well. When we encounter the rare location that
provides only 30 amp., NEMA TT-30R receptacles, we're out of luck. Does
anyone know of a source for a NEMA 10-30p to NEMA TT-30R adapter and/or
pigtail? If one can't be located, our last resort is to have the local
Airstream mechanic the cord/plug out to a modern unit. We would like to
keep the trailer original and not switch the cord if at all possible.
Thanks for your assistance!
Rob & Shari Davis
'64 GlobeTrotter
WBCCI #1824, VAC
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:52:26 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] '64 GT electrical question
Replace the plug, keep the cord but only if the cord has three
conductors, black, white, and green with the green the safety ground.
Else take apart your present adapter and use larger wire (#10 copper)
and a TT plug to make an adapter.
What I'm seeing in my catalog is that the 10-30 plug is for use in three
wire 125/250 volt circuits which means it has a neutral and no safety
ground. If its actually used for 250 volts (two hots and a neutral) its
not considered safe today. It needs to be rewired to use one hot, one
neutral and one safety ground.
On top of these considerations, a 40 year old cord may be failing
internally leading to shorts or loss of insulation and shocks. A new
cord is not out of place for safety.
You don't have the original water, you don't necessarily need the
original cord. You probably don't have the original tow vehicle
connector or connections either. You need them modernized to fit modern
tow vehicles. You can't keep them original and plug into a factory
trailer receptacle and have things work right.
Gerald J.
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